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bmfc1 Jul 03 2010 11:25 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 03 2010 11:51 AM

The rosters for this year's ASG will be announced on Sunday. [u:nv893s1x]The Times[/u:nv893s1x] predicts three Mets--Wright, Reyes and Pelfrey. I'm not so sure that Strasburg won't make it which might push aside Pelfrey: National League FIRST BASE Albert Pujols, Adrian Gonzalez, Ryan Howard, Joey Votto SECOND BASE Martin Prado, Brandon Phillips SHORTSTOP Hanley Ramirez, Jose Reyes THIRD BASE David Wright, Scott Rolen, Ryan Zimmerman CATCHER Yadier Molina, Miguel Olivo OUTFIELD Ryan Braun, Andre Ethier, Michael Bourn, Marlon Byrd, Corey Hart, Andrew McCutchen, Justin Upton, Jayson Werth PITCHER Heath Bell, Chris Carpenter, Yovani Gallardo, Luke Gregerson, Roy Halladay, Tim Hudson, Ubaldo Jimenez, Josh Johnson, Tim Lincecum, Mike Pelfrey, Adam Wainwright, Billy Wagner, Brian Wilson American League FIRST BASE Justin Morneau, Miguel Cabrera, Paul Konerko, Kevin Youkilis SECOND BASE Robinson Cano, Ty Wigginton SHORTSTOP Derek Jeter, Elvis Andrus THIRD BASE Evan Longoria, Adrian Beltre CATCHER Joe Mauer, Kurt Suzuki DESIGNATED HITTER Vladimir Guerrero OUTFIELD Carl Crawford, Josh Hamilton, Ichiro Suzuki, Brennan Boesch, Shin-Soo Choo, David DeJesus, Torii Hunter, Vernon Wells PITCHER Andrew Bailey, Clay Buchholz, Felix Hernandez, Cliff Lee, Jon Lester, Colby Lewis, Andy Pettitte, David Price, Mariano Rivera, Ricky Romero, Rafael Soriano, Jose Valverde, Jered Weaver edited to correct a stupid mistake.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 03 2010 11:46 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

If the Times is predicting Wright and Pelfrey as the only Mets, then why is Jose Reyes on that list?

bmfc1 Jul 03 2010 11:50 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

batmagadanleadoff wrote: If the Times is predicting Wright and Pelfrey as the only Mets, then why is Jose Reyes on that list? Oops.

HahnSolo Jul 03 2010 12:48 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Couldn't Strasburg make the team as the sole Nats representative? I'm not convinced about Zimmerman's candidacy (Wright and Rolen clearly are ahead of him...is Polanco still leading the voting?). Who else is there? Matt Capps?

Valadius Jul 03 2010 01:40 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Polanco's hurt anyway, he won't be there.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 03 2010 05:48 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Unless the Mets juggle their rotation, Pelfrey won't be eligible; his turn in the rotation will be the Sunday before the All-Star Game.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 03 2010 05:56 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Unless the Mets juggle their rotation, Pelfrey won't be eligible; his turn in the rotation will be the Sunday before the All-Star Game. If I remember correctly, Sunday starters who would otherwise qualify for the ASG will still be honored by being named to the team. Although they won't pitch, they will be allowed to appear at the ASG, and participate in the opening introductions.

bmfc1 Jul 04 2010 10:10 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Congrats, D-Wright: AdamRubinESPN David Wright is starting NL third baseman for All-Star Game Reyes is a reserve.

Gwreck Jul 04 2010 10:34 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Way to go Charlie Manuel. Picking Omar Infante is surely the way to win the all-star game. The Pelfrey snub aside, the picking of Ryan Howard over Joey Votto is particularly insulting.

bmfc1 Jul 04 2010 11:06 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Pelfrey doesn't even make the fan vote nominees. 5 Braves made it.

Number 6 Jul 04 2010 11:10 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Omar Infante?!?!

G-Fafif Jul 04 2010 11:10 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

bmfc1 wrote: Reyes is a reserve. An injured player filling in for an injured player. Hope he's not injured by next week. Hard to think of Reyes and any word indicative of "reserved" in the same sentence, but it's great to see the gold dust twins back in the spotlight. First time Reyes and Wright have been named together since 2007. Four years ago I would've thought they were a perennial lock.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2010 11:16 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The Votto snub is rather f*cked. Also, kinda weird he took Howard... but not Werth, who's having a better year. Did he lose a bet to Omar Infante or something? Forget naming a couple... I almost can't stop naming better qualified players-- and better-- in the NL than him.

Number 6 Jul 04 2010 11:17 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

bmfc1 wrote: Pelfrey doesn't even make the fan vote nominees. 5 Braves made it. If he's not going to be able to attend due to timing anyway, then I guess it makes sense not to make him eligible for extra man voting.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 04 2010 12:21 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

That sucks though. Pelf and shirley Votto deserve an invite. Average Votto .313 (4th in NL) Gonzalez .295 (21st) Howard .296 (20th) Home runs Votto 19 (3rd) Gonzalez 16 (8th) Howard 15 (14th) RBI Votto 57 (6th) Gonzalez 51 (17th) Howard 58 (4th) OBP Votto .414 (2nd) Gonzalez .390 (12th) Howard .353 (37th) SLG Votto .574 (2nd) Gonzalez .524 (12th) Howard .506 (14th) OPS Votto .988 (1st) Gonzalez .914 (9th) Howard .859 (20th)

Number 6 Jul 04 2010 12:25 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Yeah, unlike the Pelfrey snub which simply sucks, the Votto snub is inexplicable.

Frayed Knot Jul 04 2010 12:49 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Vote Votto in the run-off if you're given towards that sort of stuff. He's having a great year - as is his team - while Zimmerman is slumping and I'm sick of stacking the AS pitching staffs with closers so fuck Bell & Billy.

Edgy DC Jul 04 2010 02:17 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

All tha matters to me is who gets the Comissioner's Suck-Up Award.

bmfc1 Jul 04 2010 02:41 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

So long as Jeter is celebrated, then all is right with the world.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 04 2010 02:56 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

So who pops out of the relative obscurity of retirement to play All-Star grand marshal-- a la Teddy Baseball or Yogi-- next weekend? Carew? Bobby Grich? Depumped Brian Downing?

Edgy DC Jul 04 2010 04:07 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

It won't be Downing. Grich is to the Hall of Fame what Votto is the All Star Game, and if you can't make the Hall of Fame, you can't be the house legend. Nolan Ryan, Reggeie Jackson, Carew. These guys have the props. Maybe they'll do all three. A white guy, a black guy, and an Afro-Latin. (And Reggie's sort of Latin-Afro, isn't he?"

bmfc1 Jul 04 2010 04:39 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

It should be Leslie Nielsen, umpire of the famous Angels-Mariners game when there was an assassination attempt on the Queen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 04 2010 04:39 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Hey! It's Enrico Palazzo!

Zvon Jul 04 2010 05:05 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I read Pelf knew he couldn't pitch in the game, but was hoping to get chosen so he and his son could sit on the sidelines and watch the home run derby.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 04 2010 05:13 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Isn't his son about eight months old or something? And Pelfrey has some connections. (And money, too!) I'm sure he can get some pretty good seats.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 04 2010 05:22 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Apparently Charlie Manuel is being quoted saying he picked Howard over Votto "because he's my guy." Who does he think he is, Torre? Remember the year Torre filled the roster with so many MYS like Jeff Nelson that it was basically the MFYs and every team's lone representative?

metsguyinmichigan Jul 04 2010 05:30 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

My guess is that Votto will be added before too long as someone begs out because of an injury.

Gwreck Jul 04 2010 05:51 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I would think so. But still, that's not an excuse for Charlie Manuel's stupidity. I expect that Votto, once added, will be given the starting spot as the NL DH.

Ashie62 Jul 04 2010 06:48 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Why is Reyes on the All Star team over Votto?

Gwreck Jul 04 2010 07:51 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Need a second shortstop I guess? Reyes is officially the replacement for the injured Troy Tulowitzki.

Valadius Jul 04 2010 08:26 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Charlie Manuel should be fired by the Phillies for his sheer stupidity. I mean, come on, he's ruining the chances of all National League teams to get home-field advantage by picking shitty players.

Zvon Jul 04 2010 08:29 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Isn't his son about eight months old or something? And Pelfrey has some connections. (And money, too!) I'm sure he can get some pretty good seats. If I was the kid I'd wanna stay home and breast feed. Jeeze, if I was Pelf I'd wanna do that.

Zvon Jul 04 2010 08:33 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Apparently Charlie Manuel is being quoted saying he picked Howard over Votto "because he's my guy." Come on, ya gotta love this. He says it straight up. Charlie is a pisser though. I remember when he came over from the AL to manage the Phils and he didn't know what a double switch was. Took him half the season to grasp it too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2010 07:11 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Mariano with the obligatory fake injury copout, will not be participating.

Edgy DC Jul 07 2010 07:19 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Forever gets an "AS" next to his name for this season without any risk. Best of both worlds. I like the international soccer standard. You don't get a cap until you take the pitch.

Ceetar Jul 07 2010 07:22 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Mariano with the obligatory fake injury copout, will not be participating. Of course not. Yankees are bred to be selfish. I'm sure they'd do away with the game if it was up to them. I don't believe the screw up your swing thing, but wouldn't mind if the Home Run derby did so for Cano. But knowing Yankee Stadium, he'd probably just hit twice as many. Speaking of which, during the game last night SNY did their usual teaser for the show after the game, showed a tiny picture of cano with "home run derby" under it, then to (Gary Apple) saying "One local player will be in the Home Run Derby. tune in later to find out who!" I'm sure plenty of Mets fans don't know what Cano looks like, but come on!

Benjamin Grimm Jul 07 2010 07:32 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I wouldn't recognize Cano if he bit me on the ankle. And he better not!

metsguyinmichigan Jul 07 2010 07:53 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Mariano with the obligatory fake injury copout, will not be participating. And somewhere in a corner of the press box, Bob Klapisch weeps. No applause falling like soft rain for Mariano this year.

Frayed Knot Jul 08 2010 08:05 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Votto & Swisher are in as winners in the final man vote. Cano, now, discovers an injury as Yanqui mgmt orders him out of the HR derby that he had previously agreed to participate in.

Edgy DC Jul 08 2010 09:54 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

All players sitting out of the All Star Game with an injury must sit out the next five of their team's game, decrees myself.

Gwreck Jul 12 2010 11:41 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

In a shocking development, Charlie Manuel picks Ryan Howard over Joey Votto again, this time for starting DH. What a tool.

Frayed Knot Jul 12 2010 12:25 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Nick Swisher agrees to join the HR-hitting contest and MFY mgmt doesn't forbid him to go. Do you suppose Nick should see that as a way of them telling him that they don't give a shit about him, that only "True Yanquis" need to be protected?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 12 2010 01:09 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Frayed Knot wrote: Nick Swisher agrees to join the HR-hitting contest and MFY mgmt doesn't forbid him to go. Do you suppose Nick should see that as a way of them telling him that they don't give a shit about him, that only "True Yanquis" need to be protected? Or, conversely, does it mean that they don't trust Cano to "hold on to his swing," or whatever?

Ceetar Jul 12 2010 01:11 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Nick Swisher agrees to join the HR-hitting contest and MFY mgmt doesn't forbid him to go. Do you suppose Nick should see that as a way of them telling him that they don't give a shit about him, that only "True Yanquis" need to be protected? Or, conversely, does it mean that they don't trust Cano to "hold on to his swing," or whatever? Better agent? (supposedly the Yankees agreed about Cano with his agent)

Frayed Knot Jul 12 2010 03:06 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The Cano thing supposed centers on an injury*, just like the one that's preventing Mariano from playing in the ASG, which I'm sure is related to the one that kept him from playing in the last WBC, which was surprisingly similar to the one that prevented Matsui out of the last WBC, ... * One that didn't manage to keep him out of this weekend's games

Ashie62 Jul 12 2010 03:35 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

What are the only two days of the year when none of the 4 major U.S. sports are active? The day before & after the all star break I despise the AS break.

Zvon Jul 12 2010 03:51 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Ashie62 wrote: What are the only two days of the year when none of the 4 major U.S. sports are active? The day before & after the all star break I despise the AS break. I hear ya. I'll keep you busy. You play the accordion?

Ashie62 Jul 12 2010 04:04 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 12 2010 06:04 PM

Zvon wrote: Ashie62 wrote: What are the only two days of the year when none of the 4 major U.S. sports are active? The day before & after the all star break I despise the AS break. I hear ya. I'll keep you busy. You play the accordion? No, but I can whistle in tune to "My Guy"..Ryan Howard is stick to Chalie Manuel like glue because he is "My Guy".

Zvon Jul 12 2010 05:24 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Ashie62 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: What are the only two days of the year when none of the 4 major U.S. sports are active? The day before & after the all star break I despise the AS break. I hear ya. I'll keep you busy. You play the accordion? No, but I can whistle in tune to "My Guy"..Ryan Howard is stick to Chalie Manuel like gluebecause he is "My Guy". I think they are gay for each other, NTTAWWT. As a matter of fact, I have nasty thoughts pertaining to Howards nose myself. I think I could *^$% &%@$ #^@*!* and %$@^* $&*#%^ if I had enough liquor in me.

Ashie62 Jul 12 2010 06:02 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Good Lord, who is that singing "soul sister"?? Horrid.yikes..

Ashie62 Jul 12 2010 06:04 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Jay Buhner on Ukelele...???

Ashie62 Jul 12 2010 06:18 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Chris Young derbying without a hat or helmet.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 12 2010 09:00 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

It's a bad sign when we have more Mets represented in the celebrity and legends softball game than in the real game. Both Piazza and Carter are wearing the Mets colors!

MFS62 Jul 13 2010 10:02 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I hope that when the game starts tonight, the National Leaguers realize that they are playing for the Mets to get home field advantage in the World Series. Later

Willets Point Jul 13 2010 10:05 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

MFS62 wrote: I hope that when the game starts tonight, the National Leaguers realize that they are playing for the Mets to get home field advantage in the World Series. Later Why? Then they would play to lose.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 13 2010 10:11 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Well, playing to win certainly hasn't worked out.

MFS62 Jul 13 2010 10:27 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Willets Point wrote: MFS62 wrote: I hope that when the game starts tonight, the National Leaguers realize that they are playing for the Mets to get home field advantage in the World Series. Later Why? Then they would play to lose. Implicit in that is the Mets will be the NL champs. Later

Benjamin Grimm Jul 13 2010 10:53 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I think we all picked up on that.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 12:30 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Which is why they should play to win, and that means keeping the starters in as long as possible. I think the chances are better with Wright, Pujols, Hanley and friends out there on the field instead of the lone reps from the Astros, Pirates and third-tier players of that ilk. Who do you want with the bat in their hands when the game is on the line? Get the best guys out there and try to win, rather than trying to get everyone in the game. Give the undeserving starters -- Yadier,I'm talking to you -- their required three innings then replace them with the guys who should have started. No bleeping Padres closers. Trevor and Heath Bell have something like three blown saves between them. For as long as Jeter's greasy butt is in the game, order all players to hit balls two feet to his left and two feet to his right. That's about 1.5 feet beyond Jeter's range. And with Girardi managing and Steinbrenner's passing, you know Jeter's not going to get pulled, but will be left in so he can use his magic to "win one for the Boss."

Ceetar Jul 13 2010 12:35 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metsguyinmichigan wrote: It's a bad sign when we have more Mets represented in the celebrity and legends softball game than in the real game. Both Piazza and Carter are wearing the Mets colors! and Piazza had more grand slams than the Mets this year.

Zvon Jul 13 2010 04:45 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Wow. I guess I knew but it didn't register until I just read it in the paper. I mean, I knew it was a long time since the NL won, but 1996!???? Thats outta control! Hey, I went to that game, in Philly. Whose got a lear jet? I need a flight to the west coast, asap.

seawolf17 Jul 13 2010 04:59 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Zvon wrote: Wow. I guess I knew but it didn't register until I just read it in the paper. I mean, I knew it was a long time since the NL won, but 1996!???? Thats outta control! Hey, I went to that game, in Philly. Whose got a lear jet? I need a flight to the west coast, asap. You're like the G-Fafif of All-Star Games.

Zvon Jul 13 2010 06:07 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

seawolf17 wrote: Zvon wrote: Wow. I guess I knew but it didn't register until I just read it in the paper. I mean, I knew it was a long time since the NL won, but 1996!???? Thats outta control! Hey, I went to that game, in Philly. Whose got a lear jet? I need a flight to the west coast, asap. You're like the G-Fafif of All-Star Games. lol, yea. But I'm one for one.

Ashie62 Jul 13 2010 06:15 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Ty Wigginton an AS. Good for him!

themetfairy Jul 13 2010 06:24 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

It's 8:23 and we still haven't gotten to the National Anthem....

Zvon Jul 13 2010 06:29 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Thought Reyes was gonna be watching from the stands. He was introduced in the introduction line. Whats the deal with that? At 8:28 someone starts singing something. Hey, she's good.

DocTee Jul 13 2010 06:30 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Still no anthem. This is why the ASG needs to get over itself.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 13 2010 06:31 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Injured selectees may participate in the opening introductions.

seawolf17 Jul 13 2010 06:32 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Did the Mets get hosed on the "All-Stars Among Us"? I didn't see a Mets logo during the flipbook intro, and I didn't see a jersey out there either. For the record: Biggest ovation during intros: Scioscia and Vlad Guerrero Biggest boos: Anyone wearing a Yankees or Red Sox uniform

Zvon Jul 13 2010 06:33 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Wow, I haven't had goosebumps in a long long time. I like this number and the images that we see with it. And I hear ya Doc. This game should have started at 8:17 the latest. ty batmag. I wanna see Reyes on a comfy table gettin his back rubbed.

Ashie62 Jul 13 2010 06:34 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The Steinbrenner moment. Ouch.

Ashie62 Jul 13 2010 06:35 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

National Anthem singer Amber Riley invented the Fried Twinkie after extensive personal testing.

seawolf17 Jul 13 2010 06:39 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Steinbrenner tribute. Girardi crying.

Zvon Jul 13 2010 06:40 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

So she's from Glee. I don't watch that, but I did catch an ep early on this year, and that was the last time I got goosebumps. When I saw these two kids sing Lionel Richie's "Hello". It was beautiful. So I amend myself. It wasn't a long ,long, time ago. Anthem all sung. The most beautiful grass we've ever seen is ready to be played on. LETS GO N.L.![/bigpurple]

Fman99 Jul 13 2010 06:43 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

That National anthem sucked. It's now 8:42 and no baseball yet, I detest Fox MLB.

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 06:51 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Go Hanley!!! (May never get another chance to type that ever again in my natural life)

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 06:53 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

That put out was for George!

Zvon Jul 13 2010 06:56 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Fman99 wrote: That National anthem sucked. It's now 8:42 and no baseball yet, I detest Fox MLB. I detest MLB for letting FOX do what they have done to baseball. Nice catch by Ichiro! Oh, for the A.L. DOH!

Zvon Jul 13 2010 06:59 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Okay, okay. Is Jeter gonna have that play before everything he does? I think the next babe he lays down with might protest that game.

Ceetar Jul 13 2010 07:05 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Zvon wrote: Okay, okay. Is Jeter gonna have that play before everything he does? I think the next babe he lays down with might protest that game. He's getting married in November. (Jokes on him, he'll have a couple of weeks to help plan) i'd be surprised if he _doesn't_ have a Sheppard introduction.

Fman99 Jul 13 2010 07:06 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

If I see any more George Takei tonight my asshole will start to hurt.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 13 2010 07:08 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Did Wright forget his shoes? Looks like he borrowed a pair from Brian Fuentes.

Zvon Jul 13 2010 07:08 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Ceetar wrote: Zvon wrote: Okay, okay. Is Jeter gonna have that play before everything he does? I think the next babe he lays down with might protest that game. He's getting married in November. (Jokes on him, he'll have a couple of weeks to help plan) i'd be surprised if he _doesn't_ have a Sheppard introduction. Already recorded for his wedding? As gruesome as the implications would be, if he has that in the can for future useage.... that still would be pretty kool. Ha, Cano sucks.

seawolf17 Jul 13 2010 07:18 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

So much of whatever drama exists for the ASG is kinda ruined by interleague play, no? Tim and Joe keep trying to manufacture "these guys never see each other" drama, but it's not working.

Zvon Jul 13 2010 07:21 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

seawolf17 wrote: So much of whatever drama exists for the ASG is kinda ruined by interleague play, no? Tim and Joe keep trying to manufacture "these guys never see each other" drama, but it's not working. To an extent. But there's still something kool about seeing all those different uniforms on one field.

seawolf17 Jul 13 2010 07:33 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Zvon wrote: seawolf17 wrote: So much of whatever drama exists for the ASG is kinda ruined by interleague play, no? Tim and Joe keep trying to manufacture "these guys never see each other" drama, but it's not working. To an extent. But there's still something kool about seeing all those different uniforms on one field. True. I can't believe they allowed Derek Jeter to strike out looking. DON'T THEY REALIZE HE'S IN MOURNING?

Zvon Jul 13 2010 07:37 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

seawolf17 wrote: seawolf17 wrote: So much of whatever drama exists for the ASG is kinda ruined by interleague play, no? Tim and Joe keep trying to manufacture "these guys never see each other" drama, but it's not working. To an extent. But there's still something kool about seeing all those different uniforms on one field. True. I can't believe they allowed Derek Jeter to strike out looking. DON'T THEY REALIZE HE'S IN MOURNING? lol. "Now mourning, number two,..Derek Jeter,...number two"

Zvon Jul 13 2010 07:41 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

What does David have on his feet? Do those shoes light up?

Zvon Jul 13 2010 07:44 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

WOW! A real honest to goodness full extension diving catch by Braun. I have a checklist of things I would like to see tonight. 1) Great catch _?_

seawolf17 Jul 13 2010 07:58 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Vaguely Metly content alert: Andre Ethier is the first Dodger OF elected to start since Straw (DNP) in 1991.

Gwreck Jul 13 2010 08:00 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

2 hits, a steal and a nice play at 3rd. And Charlie Manuel takes him out of the game after 4.5 innings. Hey Charlie: YOU SUCK.

Fman99 Jul 13 2010 08:03 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Gwreck wrote: 2 hits, a steal and a nice play at 3rd. And Charlie Manuel takes him out of the game after 4.5 innings. Hey Charlie: YOU SUCK. It's OK, relax. We've got OMAR INFUCKINGFANTE on the bench!

PiggiesTomatoes Jul 13 2010 08:04 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Is it really necessary to identify the lab guy in the Sharp commericals (George Takei) as an "actor portrayal?" Is there any thought that there'd be confusion with an actual scientist? Even if there was, who the fuck cares.

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 08:06 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 13 2010 08:07 PM

That's not good. Triple play !

Fman99 Jul 13 2010 08:06 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Kuo gets all Knoblauchian on the throw to first. Let's see what Jackie Robinson Rotunda Cano does here...

Gwreck Jul 13 2010 08:07 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

This is what happens when non-All Stars play in the game. The National League loses. Why don't we have Halladay in for 2 innings? What about Wainwright or Carpenter? Hong-Chih Kuo is NOT an all-star quality pitcher, his good half season be damned.

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 08:08 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

WTF is Kuo doing in the game?

PiggiesTomatoes Jul 13 2010 08:09 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Maybe it's me but Hong-Chih Kuo looks a lot like golfer Anthony Kim. Where's Halladay when you could actually use him?

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 08:10 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Braindead baserunning by Joe Mauer

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 08:11 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Fuck me, have NL starters gone on strike or something?

Gwreck Jul 13 2010 08:12 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The Second Spitter wrote: WTF is Kuo doing in the game? When the genius running the team picks Howard over Votto, and then picks Howard over Votto to start...you've got problems.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2010 08:22 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

"Now awkwardly backpedaling, Number 2..."

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 08:36 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Gwreck wrote: The Second Spitter wrote: WTF is Kuo doing in the game? When the genius running the team picks Howard over Votto, and then picks Howard over Votto to start...you've got problems. And proceeds to take Halliday out of the game after 2 outs.

Zvon Jul 13 2010 08:39 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The Second Spitter wrote: The Second Spitter wrote: WTF is Kuo doing in the game? When the genius running the team picks Howard over Votto, and then picks Howard over Votto to start...you've got problems. And proceeds to take Halliday out of the game after 2 outs. If the game is gonna be managed as a showcase, like this, they can't have it effecting the WS like it does.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2010 08:40 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Maybe the thinking is, Capps is unfamiliar for someone like Papi? I don't know. It happened to work. Goody.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 08:43 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Gwreck wrote: This is what happens when non-All Stars play in the game. The National League loses. Why don't we have Halladay in for 2 innings? What about Wainwright or Carpenter? Hong-Chih Kuo is NOT an all-star quality pitcher, his good half season be damned. EXACTLY!!!! When the bleeping home field advantage is on the line, getting some guy his first and possibly only All-Star experience is secondary. Win the damn game. And stinking Charlie pulling Wright, who was kicking butt and taking names. And Marlon Byrd is manning centerfield? Hallady gets the hook for Matt Capps?

Fman99 Jul 13 2010 08:43 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Oh, it's the in-game-Jeter-bootlick. I'm throwing up in my mouth.

Ashie62 Jul 13 2010 08:45 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Fman99 wrote: Oh, it's the in-game-Jeter-bootlick. I'm throwing up in my mouth. OK Jimi Hendrix

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2010 08:48 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Nice rollin', Rolen. We got a stew goin'.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2010 08:55 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 13 2010 08:57 PM

Gwreck wrote: This is what happens when non-All Stars play in the game. The National League loses. Why don't we have Halladay in for 2 innings? What about Wainwright or Carpenter? Hong-Chih Kuo is NOT an all-star quality pitcher, his good half season be damned. I get your general point. But you're off about Kuo. He's been a 10 K/9 swingman in the Dodger pen for four years now, and has been VERY good against batters of any handedness-- and murder against lefties-- the whole time... over 232 innings. Oh, and MA MAN McCANN!

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 08:56 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Jose Bautista representing AL-Qaeda in RF.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 08:56 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Again. Stinking Chris Young and Marlon Byrd.

Fman99 Jul 13 2010 08:56 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Hot damn! McCann with the big knock, and McCarver with the big hyperbole.

Zvon Jul 13 2010 08:57 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

[bigpurple:240ot3y0]YEAAAAAAAAAA[/bigpurple:240ot3y0]

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 08:57 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

WoooooooooOOOO! Surely they'll win now!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 13 2010 08:59 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I knew once they got those embedded American Leaguers* out of the game the NL could take control. That's a L for Hughes as long as the NL avoids bringing Wagner into the game. *-I'm of course referring to the Brewers, who personally f'ed up both David Wright fueled rallies.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2010 08:59 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Again. Stinking Chris Young and Marlon Byrd. Here's where you want them in, now. They're FAR better defenders than the guys they replaced.

Gwreck Jul 13 2010 09:00 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Let's be thankful that Heath Bell has already been used and is out of the game. I guess Broxton is the NL Closer tonight.

metirish Jul 13 2010 09:00 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I knew once they got those embedded American Leaguers* out of the game the NL could take control. That's a L for Hughes as long as the NL avoids bringing Wagner into the game. *-I'm of course referring to the Brewers, who personally f'ed up both David Wright fueled rallies. Phil of course has the ready made excuse.....

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 09:00 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Fman99 wrote: McCarver with the big hyperbole. I first read this as "McCarver is a big asshole"

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 09:01 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I couldn't figure out what you guys were cheering about, then I realized I was about 8 minutes behind because I tivioed the start of the game and forgot about that. Yeah McCann!!!!

Willets Point Jul 13 2010 09:03 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The Second Spitter wrote: Fman99 wrote: McCarver with the big hyperbole. I first read this as "McCarver is a big asshole" Which is also true.

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 09:10 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I couldn't figure out what you guys were cheering about, then I realized I was about 8 minutes behind because I tivioed the start of the game and forgot about that. Fuck! Konerko hits a grand-slam off Adam Wainwright. 5-3 AL.

metirish Jul 13 2010 09:12 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The Second Spitter wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: I couldn't figure out what you guys were cheering about, then I realized I was about 8 minutes behind because I tivioed the start of the game and forgot about that. Fuck! Konerko hits a grand-slam off Adam Wainwright. 5-3 AL. LOL..... OF all the dramatic things , they are wheeling George out to the mound for the 7th inning stretch.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 09:13 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Matt Holliday.Not much of a fielder.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2010 09:13 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Bay probably makes that catch. I mean, he's also going 1-4 with a third-inning single, but he makes that catch.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 09:15 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Oh, and now that I realized the error, I caught up to the broadcast, sparing me ads about a movie with Schmuck in the title. And I have no doubt that Fox didn't at least call Tampa and ask if George could lie in state in the AL dugout.

Gwreck Jul 13 2010 09:15 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

They actually gave him a DOUBLE on that? Error, all the way.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 09:18 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Huge K!!!!!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 13 2010 09:18 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Wainwright gives Hunter the Beltran treatment.

metirish Jul 13 2010 09:19 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Does Boras ever move from his spot there behind home plate?, I hate that about Angels stadium.

Gwreck Jul 13 2010 09:26 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Who would you rather have pitching here: Brian Wilson or Francisco Rodriguez?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 13 2010 09:28 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

They both suck.

metirish Jul 13 2010 09:29 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Wilson, but he's a tightrope like Rodriguez right?

Ashie62 Jul 13 2010 09:29 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Gwreck wrote: Who would you rather have pitching here: Brian Wilson or Francisco Rodriguez? Mike Love

metirish Jul 13 2010 09:33 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

No Doubt are doing " free credit score" commercials?

metirish Jul 13 2010 09:38 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Valverde has such a weird pitching motion.

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 09:39 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metirish wrote: Valverde has such a weird pitching motion. It may have something to do with the keg attached to his abdomen.

metirish Jul 13 2010 09:41 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The Second Spitter wrote: metirish wrote: Valverde has such a weird pitching motion. It may have something to do with the keg attached to his abdomen. Dying over here

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 13 2010 09:42 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metirish wrote: Valverde has such a weird pitching motion. He's having an incredible year. (edit) And who wouldn't be with a keg attached to their abdomen.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 09:43 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Speaking of guys with attached kegs, here's Broxton.

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 09:43 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I knew a 1-2-3 inning was too much to ask.

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 09:45 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

WHIFFO!!

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 09:45 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

John Buck likes to ......

metirish Jul 13 2010 09:46 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Is Gay-Rod so distraught he can't hit?

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 09:48 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I take back that thing I implied about Byrd.

Gwreck Jul 13 2010 09:49 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Put it in the books!

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 09:49 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Yeah, a PR would have been an idea, Joe. Maybe he was too distraught to manage?

Zvon Jul 13 2010 09:49 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 13 2010 09:50 PM

wow, what a crucial play there in the 9th. What a throw. YES, WE WIN!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 13 2010 09:50 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 13 2010 09:50 PM

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I take back that thing I implied about Byrd. He's been like the Cubs' Pagan... but with more power.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 09:50 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

YES!!!!!!!

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 09:51 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Mets have home-field advantage in the World Series!

metirish Jul 13 2010 09:51 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

A loud NL crowd all night right?

HahnSolo Jul 13 2010 09:51 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I assume McCann will win the MVP, but Byrd gets Schaefer points for both the defensive play in the 9th, and a great PA in drawing the walk right before McCann's hit.

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 09:52 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Is there Schaefer voting for this game?

Zvon Jul 13 2010 09:52 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

My nephew was watching, 14, and I didn't realize it til just now. He had never seen the NL win a AS game in his life. Yikes. Kinda puts things in some kind of perspective, that I can't quite grasp atm.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 09:52 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

McCann's gotta be the MVP, right?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 13 2010 09:53 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Oh, the shame, Joe Girardi. I feel great about this.

metirish Jul 13 2010 09:53 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metsguyinmichigan wrote: McCann's gotta be the MVP, right? George gets it, has to be him right, he saved the ASG.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 09:55 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I was in Phillie at the Vet for a game right before the All-Star Game there in 1996, and we were in town to take my then-4 year-old to Sesame Place. That would be the kid who graduated high school last month.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 09:56 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Oh, the shame, Joe Girardi. I feel great about this. He'll have to change his uniform number to double-0 for the No. of All-Star Games he's won.

Zvon Jul 13 2010 09:56 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metsguyinmichigan wrote: McCann's gotta be the MVP, right? I gave it to him as the ball hit off the wall. Well, maybe not then. Maybe when the 3rd run slid across the plate. I could not keep up with this, had company, but I'm reading now and this is a most enjoyable 2010 AS IGT.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 13 2010 09:58 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

This is even better than Steinbrenner firing his cardiologist.

Zvon Jul 13 2010 10:00 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: This is even better than Steinbrenner firing his cardiologist. badaaaaaaaBOOM! How could that guy be talkin possible NL teams in the big show and not mention our Mets? Hey......now that I think about it, thats a great omen. WOOT!

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 10:08 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

It's a good thing Steinbrenner's dead. Otherwise Girardi would be on the phone being fired right now and Hughes getting his bags packed for Triple-A.

Zvon Jul 13 2010 10:08 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The Second Spitter wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: I couldn't figure out what you guys were cheering about, then I realized I was about 8 minutes behind because I tivioed the start of the game and forgot about that. Fuck! Konerko hits a grand-slam off Adam Wainwright. 5-3 AL. OMG, cruel and classic TSS.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 10:11 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Buck and McCarver just dedicated their broadcast to George???

metsguyinmichigan Jul 13 2010 10:12 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Zvon wrote: The Second Spitter wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: I couldn't figure out what you guys were cheering about, then I realized I was about 8 minutes behind because I tivioed the start of the game and forgot about that. Fuck! Konerko hits a grand-slam off Adam Wainwright. 5-3 AL. OMG, cruel and classic TSS. Had there been one of our guys on the mound, I would have not only believed it, but expected it.

Zvon Jul 13 2010 10:14 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Buck and McCarver just dedicated their broadcast to George??? Why is it, when those two lean close to each other (like they did there), I think that are suddenly gonna start makin out?

bmfc1 Jul 13 2010 10:22 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Bonus: Hughes gets the loss. I'm in Vegas. I put 20 on the NL to win. Made 22.

The Second Spitter Jul 13 2010 10:28 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

bmfc1 wrote: Bonus: Hughes gets the loss. I'm in Vegas. I put 20 on the NL to win. Made 22. Hey, same here. (except I'm not in Vegas).

G-Fafif Jul 13 2010 11:27 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

"The National League will win another All-Star Game over my dead body." --George Steinbrenner

themetfairy Jul 14 2010 07:03 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

For the first time in MK's lifetime, the National League has won the All-Star Game!

Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2010 07:13 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I'm curious: What cap/jersey combo did David Wright wear?

HahnSolo Jul 14 2010 07:26 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Grey jersey. Not sure of the cap. I think black with the blue bill. And as an example of how long this has been coming, I was reminded that the last time the NL won this, Mike Piazza was the MVP...as a Dodger.

Edgy DC Jul 14 2010 07:28 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

If he wore a Mets jersey, it would have been somehow disrespectful.

metsmarathon Jul 14 2010 07:33 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

themetfairy wrote: For the first time in MK's lifetime, the National League has won the All-Star Game! all minimm knows is national league all star dominance. spoiled little munchkin...

metirish Jul 14 2010 07:39 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2010 07:48 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Thanks! Of the road uniforms the Mets wear, that's the one I like best. (Grey jersey, blue-brimmed cap.) I'd prefer to see the solid blue cap on the road, but that probably won't happen again until they're ready to close the third Yankee Stadium.

Edgy DC Jul 14 2010 07:59 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

But that metallic sheen on the blue and that crappy outlined insignia is just boogers, isn't it? The orange shoes, on the other hand hand, are Sheariffic.

TransMonk Jul 14 2010 08:14 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Was everyone required to wear those Cervelli helmets? I hate those. Makes everyone look like they have tiny heads.

Number 6 Jul 14 2010 08:30 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

TransMonk wrote: Was everyone required to wear those Cervelli helmets? I hate those. Makes everyone look like they have tiny heads.

TransMonk Jul 14 2010 08:46 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metsguyinmichigan Jul 14 2010 08:48 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metirish wrote: Wright is clearly taunting Cano, mocking his garish uniform, sloppy fielding and dumbass double-play partner.

Edgy DC Jul 14 2010 09:02 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Brian O'Nora wearing number 7: disrespectful to Eric Gregg.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 14 2010 09:20 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Tom Verducci is one bitter Yankee hack this morning. But still manages some unwarranted Jeter Love. [url]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/07/14/allstargame.managers/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin ANAHEIM, Calif. -- Five cuts from the National League's 3-1 win on Tuesday night. 1. There is no way to put this to you gently: you've been hoodwinked. Baseball has sold you the idea that the All-Star Game is meaningful because the winning league gets homefield advantange for the World Series, an idea I have liked. But as long as managers keep running the game as if it's a church picnic softball game, the idea that the game "counts" is a farce. The game hit a new low Tuesday night with game management shenanigans -- worse than the tie in Milwaukee, because that game had nothing attached to it. Baseball keeps gerrymandering the rules of the game (somehow the first 72 All-Star Games came off just fine with normal rules), by adding roster spots, inserting a reentry rule, adding special rules for catchers and replacing any starting pitcher who pitched two days earlier. And yet the game becomes even more of a farce. Here's what happened Tuesday night: down to his final three outs with the World Series schedule on the line, AL manager Joe Girardi of the Yankees left the battleship U.S.S. David Ortiz in the game to run the bases and John (.239 lifetime) Buck to hit while leaving Alex (all-time active home run leader) Rodriguez on the bench. Of course, such thinking blew up on him and the World Series will begin in an NL city. You cannot take the game seriously when it is played this way. Ortiz, leading off, singled in the ninth with the AL trailing, 3-1. He should have been removed for a pinch-runner immediately. Girardi, however, had run through so many players just so his players could say, "Look, Mom, I got in the game!" that he had only one position player left on his bench: Rodriguez. So what happened? After Adrian Beltre struck out, Buck dropped a bloop into rightfield. Ortiz, thinking the ball might be caught, got a late start toward second, where he was thrown out by rightfielder Marlon Byrd. Think about that: World Series homefield on the line and your penultimate out is a 9-6 putout with Ortiz running, Buck batting and Rodriguez on the bench. Ian Kinsler then flied out to end the game. This idea of rushing players into the game in the middle innings has got to stop. Managers should leave multiple players available for late-game moves -- which is what they do when games are run properly. Wait. It gets worse. Why wasn't Rodriguez in the game as a runner or a hitter? A team source said after the game that Rodriguez has a slightly sore right thumb and, as a precaution, he was not going to hit in the game unless it was an extreme situation, such as a DH role in extra innings with no other players left. "We weren't going to push it," the source said. "Four days off for our big guy." That information does not exactly dovetail with the answer Girardi gave when he was asked after the game if Rodriguez was healthy: "Oh, yeah, he's fine." The facts suggested something else. If he was fine, then why didn't Girardi put him in the game at third base rather than Beltre, who has a hamstring issue? Girardi admitted about Beltre, "We were concerned about his hamstring" and would have lifted him for a pinch-runner if Beltre had reached in the ninth. So why would Girardi play the guy with the balky hamstring (Beltre) at third base rather than the guy he said was healthy (Rodriguez)? Makes no sense. Putting a shaky Beltre into the game before Rodriguez was the tipoff that Girardi wanted to keep Rodriguez out of the game. And how did Rodriguez even get on the team? The fans didn't pick him. The players didn't pick him. His manager, Girardi, picked him. And if the Yankees staff did want to keep Rodriguez out of the game to protect his thumb, why would Girardi manage himself into a corner in which his last available position player was compromised even a little bit? Further, if the Yankees did not want Rodriguez to swing the bat unless it was an emergency, why was he even on the active roster? As these questions came to light after the game, a few AL players were perplexed about how the game was run and the accommodation for Rodriguez. "Michael Young should have been here then," said one player, suggesting the Texas third baseman as a replacement for Rodriguez on the active roster. "It's a Yankee thing," said another, shaking his head and laughing. Said Ortiz, "Yes, I thought they would put in a pinch runner, but this is an All-Star Game, so you never know what's going to happen." About the embarrassing 9-6 putout, Ortiz said, "Wrong play at the wrong time. And the wrong guy, too." Baseball has been going about it the wrong way. The way to ensure a better game is to have fewer players, not more. Baseball needs 25-man rosters at the All-Star Game, because the more players and more gimmick rules you give these managers the more the game becomes less like real baseball. Baseball gave Girardi a 34-man roster -- 34! -- and when he was down to his last three outs he had no one to run for Ortiz or hit for Buck. 2. Let's not give Phillies manager Charlie Manuel a pass here. Guess who was the first guy pulled from the game? That would be the guy on his team who got the most votes from fans: Albert Pujols. And thanks to a three-run double by Brian McCann, Manuel got away with an awful move in the seventh. With runners at first and third with one out and lefthander Matt Thornton pitching for the AL, Manuel called back Andre Ethier and sent Chris Young to bat for him. In no universe does that make any sense, given Ethier is far and away the better run producer. Create a platoon advantage, you say? Nope. Ethier hits lefthanders (.288) better than Young (.259). It was just another example of how managers are so wedded to sending up righthanders against lefthanders that they do it by rote, without proper consideration for the actual people involved in the decision. Young, also far worse at making contact than is Ethier, popped out. 3. The play of the game occurred when Scott Rolen dashed from first base to third base with one out in the seventh inning on a single by Matt Holliday, setting up the NL's winning rally. Rolen is one of the game's best baserunners, and he never hesitated to run on centerfielder Torii Hunter. "It's what you're taught in Little League, right?" Rolen said. "One out, get to third base. It's no different here. There was never a doubt. And if it comes up Thursday against Colorado, I'll do the same thing." Asked if he caught Hunter off guard with his aggressiveness, Rolen said, "I think so. I thought I was going to get thrown out by half the basepath." Hunter lost any chance at Rolen with a throw that was off line. 4. Roy Halladay is the one nemesis for Derek Jeter, his Kryptonite. Jeter has faced Halladay 104 times -- more than any other pitcher except Tim Wakefield -- and hit .234 against him with more strikeouts (24) than hits (22). Jeter once joked that Halladay never missed pitching in a series against the Yankees, even if he was due to throw a bullpen session instead of a start. Jeter thought he was done facing Halladay when the pitcher was traded out of the American League last year, moving from Toronto to Philadelphia. But Jeter wound up seeing Halladay in interleague play, anyway. And what happened when Jeter traveled across the country and plays in the All-Star Game? Yep, he saw Halladay yet again. Jeter was the first batter Halladay faced when the righthander entered in the sixth inning. Jeter laughed at the absurdity of facing Halladay yet again. Then he dropped a bloop hit into rightfield. 5. Of course, this being the year of the pitcher, no home runs were hit. That makes two straight All-Star Games without a home run -- the first time that's happened since 1957-58. The last player to hit an All-Star Game home run was J.D. Drew -- and he hit it in a park that no longer exists (Yankee Stadium II, in 2008). We have watched 185 straight All-Star at-bats over 26 innings since then without anybody going yard. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/w ... z0tfbRHTQe I agree in that I wanted the best players in there when it counted. Cholly made some horrible moves in there. But one of the guys I was critical of -- Byrd -- made the big play. Interesting how Verducci fails to give Byrd any love for making a huge, heads-up play, dumping all over Girardi and Ortiz.

MFS62 Jul 14 2010 09:21 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metsguyinmichigan wrote: metirish wrote: Wright is clearly taunting Cano, mocking his garish uniform, sloppy fielding and dumbass double-play partner. Its a wonder he could recognize Cano because his name isn't on the back of that cheesy uniform. Later

Willets Point Jul 14 2010 09:53 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metirish wrote: When I look at this photo of David Wright, what I hear in my head is Maybe Wright is trying to shed his Dudley Do-Wright image for Nelson Muntz?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 14 2010 10:02 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Jeter laughed at the absurdity of facing Halladay yet again. "What ees thees? 'Alliday? Zut, twice in one year?" "How droll. It reminds me of the thin line between life and death... so much hanging on a weak, ducksnort thread separating these distinct states, both-- like a Gold Glove-- ultimately devoid of meaning." 5. Of course, this being the year of the pitcher, no home runs were hit. That makes two straight All-Star Games without a home run -- the first time that's happened since 1957-58. The last player to hit an All-Star Game home run was J.D. Drew -- and he hit it in a park that no longer exists (Yankee Stadium II, in 2008). We have watched 185 straight All-Star at-bats over 26 innings since then without anybody going yard. ZOMG! OH NOES!

Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2010 11:06 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Just wait until the All Star Game comes to Citi Field. There won't even be home runs in the Home Run Derby! It will end in a scoreless tie!

metirish Jul 14 2010 11:09 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Just wait until the All Star Game comes to Citi Field. There won't even be home runs in the Home Run Derby! It will end in a scoreless tie! I was thinking that the other night, will they move the fences in ?, in reality they need to rethink that whole mess of a HR Derby , there was no compelling player this year, last year Hamilton was a good story.....it's rubbish but I watched last year, not this year.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 14 2010 11:31 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Just wait until the All Star Game comes to Citi Field. There won't even be home runs in the Home Run Derby! It will end in a scoreless tie! A triples derby would be more fun, I think, if a lot more tiring. Or maybe "race-the-wave" races for each league's fastest?

Frayed Knot Jul 14 2010 11:34 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Tom V: There is no way to put this to you gently: you've been hoodwinked. Baseball has sold you the idea that the All-Star Game is meaningful because the winning league gets homefield advantange for the World Series, ... But as long as managers keep running the game as if it's a church picnic softball game, the idea that the game "counts" is a farce. Dear Tom: DUH!!!! -- like you're just realizing this NOW dude?!?

metsguyinmichigan Jul 14 2010 11:40 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

If MLB can hold a home run derby at Comerica Park, they can do it at Citi!

soupcan Jul 14 2010 12:02 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Edgy DC wrote: The orange shoes, on the other hand hand, are Sheariffic. Agree! Agree! And we aren't alone in our love for the kicks...

Ceetar Jul 14 2010 12:12 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metirish wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Just wait until the All Star Game comes to Citi Field. There won't even be home runs in the Home Run Derby! It will end in a scoreless tie! I was thinking that the other night, will they move the fences in ?, in reality they need to rethink that whole mess of a HR Derby , there was no compelling player this year, last year Hamilton was a good story.....it's rubbish but I watched last year, not this year. Nah, it's certainly not that hard to hit one out anyway. (Although I remember hearing that they had the capability of moving the walls in or out like 8feet..no idea if that's true) We'll get some good lefties tattooing the pepsi porch, which will be fun. See if anyone can dent the Acela Club, count how many make it into the Apple.. But yeah, they need to at least get some of the bigger sluggers in there. Wouldn't it have been a thought to invite Ken Griffey Jr to this years? That'd have been cool..unless he just didn't want to? Seems like he could've/should've been there.

Zvon Jul 14 2010 01:25 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

But that metallic sheen on the blue and that crappy outlined insignia is just boogers, isn't it? The orange shoes, on the other hand hand, are Sheariffic. Hate to bring this thread back to what really matters, but: The on the Mets caps should NEVER be anything but orange. NEVER! I don't care if they trim it in flowers or dog doo, but it should always be and forever stay orange. The meddling with this universal fact is just another of many reasons the Mets are suffering T C I Q. If we all do our part tho, we end the curse this year, no matter how many obstacles lay in our path.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 14 2010 01:39 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I didn't mind the redesigned helmets, and if they improve safety, great. But the glossy finishes have got to go. Has MLB taken a look at what bicycle riders are wearing these days? Nothing but flat finishes, and IMO, it looks prertty cool. Japan tried to show the way in WBC but MLB's not listening. The Mets would kick ass in less shiny helmets.

TransMonk Jul 14 2010 01:47 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I like the flat as well.

metirish Jul 14 2010 01:48 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I'm sure there is some study that says American like shiny things so that's the way to go.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 14 2010 01:49 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

metirish wrote: I'm sure there is some study that says American like shiny things so that's the way to go. Yeah but we need to adjust to the New Frugality.

metirish Jul 14 2010 02:24 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

And the shine boy loses his job, thanks bub. This would never take with the Mets, Charlie Samuels seems obsessed with every Mets helmet shiny as can be.I remember that was a concern when the courting of Vlad was going to happen.

Gwreck Jul 14 2010 03:31 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

TransMonk wrote: Was everyone required to wear those Cervelli helmets? I hate those. Makes everyone look like they have tiny heads. They weren't required but it was a deliberate attempt to get everyone to wear them. I believe David said "that's what they gave us." They look less stupid if everyone is wearing them and of course they offer much better protection...

Zvon Jul 14 2010 03:47 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Gwreck wrote: TransMonk wrote: Was everyone required to wear those Cervelli helmets? I hate those. Makes everyone look like they have tiny heads. They weren't required but it was a deliberate attempt to get everyone to wear them. I believe David said "that's what they gave us." They look less stupid if everyone is wearing them and of course they offer much better protection... It makes sense to me. I don't think anyone would want to lose one of their top players for any length of time to an injury occurring during an AS game. Could you imagine how things would be going today if Dave accidently got beaned in the game? I was glad to see him in that helmet. Those shoes.......not so much.

Edgy DC Jul 14 2010 03:57 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The shoes are gorgeous.

seawolf17 Jul 14 2010 04:05 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Stunning, Wally Matthews. Just stunning. MLB Misses A Golden Opportunity To Honor Two Legends When Joe Girardi left Alex Rodriguez on the bench in the ninth inning with a chance to win the game, many American League fans were incensed that he would willingly squander the team's best chance for a win. But it shouldn't have mattered; Bud Selig should have done the right thing and awarded home field advantage to the American League this year. Sure, Mets fans and Cardinals fans and whatever Braves fans there are may quibble, but this year, of all years, it's fitting to honor the legacy left by two legendary baseball men who left us this week -- Bob Sheppard and George Steinbrenner -- by ensuring that if the Yankees do their part and win the American League, the 2010 World Series kicks off in Yankee Stadium. Bob Sheppard announced more World Series games than anyone; by shorting the American League one potential home game, Bud Selig has robbed us of the opportunity to hear his prerecorded dulcet tones, like a voice from the beyond, echoing through the hallowed halls of Monument Park one more time. And to insist that the glorious Yankee Stadium -- home to more World Series games than any other park in the history of baseball -- host three potentially meaningless middle-of-the-Series games is an insult to baseball history. The deaths of Bob Sheppard this weekend and George Steinbrenner early yesterday morning left a hole in the heart of baseball. The short video tribute and accompanying moment of silence before last night's game was the least baseball could do for a man who gave every ounce of his being to the game, a man who wanted to win more than anyone, and wasn't afraid to make his own rules to make that happen. Bud Selig has a chance to rectify that mistake... but needs to make that decision before it's too late.

Edgy DC Jul 14 2010 04:09 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

He's out of control, isn't he?

G-Fafif Jul 14 2010 04:12 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

My mouth is literally agape. And Wally Matthews is literally a moron. Although, I have to ask...is this for real? I can't find an actual Wally Matthews post with this unbelievable take.

DocTee Jul 14 2010 04:26 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

That's gotta be a joke. Tell me it's from the Onion or something, will ya?

Fman99 Jul 14 2010 06:29 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The day after the All Star Game sucks. Not a sporting event in sight. (Fuck the ESPYs.) Top it off by the fact that the Mets don't play till 10 PM tomorrow night. Double suck.

themetfairy Jul 14 2010 06:33 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The AAA All Star Game is on the MLB Network. There's a Cyclones game on SNY, but it's in a rain delay.

The Second Spitter Jul 14 2010 07:08 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

G-Fafif wrote: "The National League will win another All-Star Game over my dead body." --George Steinbrenner Duuuuuude............I thought of this, except I was worried one of the admins was going to tear me a new one, for typing it.

Frayed Knot Jul 14 2010 07:19 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

The Second Spitter wrote: G-Fafif wrote: "The National League will win another All-Star Game over my dead body." --George Steinbrenner Duuuuuude............I thought of this, except I was worried one of the admins was going to tear me a new one, for typing it. Oh man don't ever think that. In nearly 9 years of this board the number of posts that got spiked is probably countable on one hand ... by Mordecai Brown. Let 'em fly.

Edgy DC Jul 14 2010 08:35 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

If you get criticized, the admins' responses carry no more weight than those of the other posters. So fill me in... that column is fake, right? Right?

Ceetar Jul 14 2010 08:36 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Edgy DC wrote: If you get criticized, the admins' responses carry no more weight than those of the other posters. So fill me in... that column is fake, right? Right? I couldn't find it anywhere on my searches.

seawolf17 Jul 14 2010 08:37 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I didn't think it was THAT good, fellas. Nowhere near up to Wally's standards. But I'm honored to have fooled you all.

The Second Spitter Jul 14 2010 10:07 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: If you get criticized, the admins' responses carry no more weight than those of the other posters. So fill me in... that column is fake, right? Right? I couldn't find it anywhere on my searches. What column are we talking about?

G-Fafif Jul 14 2010 10:08 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I didn't think it was THAT good, fellas. Nowhere near up to Wally's standards. But I'm honored to have fooled you all. At first blush, it was so totally fucked up that I believed it. About five minutes (and several blind alley searches) later I was thinking, "Wait a second..." I had to remind myself that the MFYs had played World Series in which they had the middle three games and even their amen corner hadn't complained. Two other tipoffs: 1) A word is missing from the first sentence. 2) The knock on the Braves was a little too Metcentric. But you had me going, you sick little monkey.

Zvon Jul 14 2010 10:16 PM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Got my ticket here for the 1996 All Star Game at the Vet. Great box seats (for a game of this stature), section 232. 65$ I know over time prices do and should go up. But 65 bucks (Don't know if I ever told the story of me sneaking into the after party with some of my brothers and a few friends. I think I did though. That's a classic.)

The Second Spitter Jul 15 2010 01:17 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Edgy DC wrote: If you get criticized, the admins' responses carry no more weight than those of the other posters. Like the Genius, I'm highly sensitive to personal criticism, however unlike him, I'm not close enough to the owner of CPF to get an admin fired.

seawolf17 Jul 15 2010 04:10 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

G-Fafif wrote: 1) A word is missing from the first sentence. Argh. I left out the word "win." I'm going to go back and edit it in.

metsguyinmichigan Jul 15 2010 04:17 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Wolfie, you got me. Brilliant.

metirish Jul 15 2010 05:51 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Well played wolfie, while I was skeptical the column was not beyond Matthews.

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2010 07:26 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Ashie62 wrote: What are the only two days of the year when none of the 4 major U.S. sports are active? The day before & after the all star break I despise the AS break. There used to be several other 'blank' days in the sports calendar, but that was before leagues starting deciding that the likes of Christmas & Christmas Eve were perfect spots for TV programming. But it could be worse, there's only seven games on the sked for today. So, even though we have to wait until 10PM EDT to renew our fix, we're fortunately not one of the Sixteen teams with an extra day off.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 15 2010 07:39 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I actually enjoyed not having any baseball to watch for the past three days. And it will extend a bit, because 10 p.m. games are not my speed.

seawolf17 Jul 15 2010 08:02 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I know that making the schedule is hard, but do we really need that many teams out of action for an extra day? Seems a little silly. I'll miss all of these 10 pm games too.

Edgy DC Jul 15 2010 08:07 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I have this plan when I'm commissioner to shut down the baseball schedule for the entire week, but instead of it being a drought, it would be Baseball Week --- filled with a smorgasbord of non-sucky special baseball programming: [list=1][*]The MLB Draft (This, if I haven't succeeded in eliminating it first.) [/*:m] [*]The Hall of Fame Game (This will count in the standings, but be played at Doubleday Field in Cooperstown.) [/*:m] [*]All Star Game One (This will be played competitively, with players encouraged to stay in as long as is strategically necessary, and starters able to go five or six if they succeed.) [/*:m] [*]Hall of Fame Inductions [/*:m] [*]All Star Game Two (Each ASG wil be played at a different city in the same region --- why make people wait 30 or so years for the game to come to their town?) [/*:m] [*]The Futures Game [/*:m] [*]The bloody and viciously contested All Star Game Three (Aren't there three deserving starting pitchers in each league?)[/*:m][/list:o] Other shit like old-timers games and concerts and parties and stuff can be sparkled in there.

TransMonk Jul 15 2010 08:10 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I like the 10pm games (they're 9pm for me). The house is quiet, I'm done with all my daily tasks...and next week: Vin Scully!

Benjamin Grimm Jul 15 2010 08:11 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

There was a period of time in the 1960's when two All Star Games were played each year. I know little of the details, though. Why was it implemented? How long did it last? Why was it discontinued? Was the All-Star break still three games, or was it longer? Were both games played on consecutive days? Were they both played in the same park? Was one of the games a Tuesday game? I guess I could look it up, and perhaps I will, but not just now.

Willets Point Jul 15 2010 08:15 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Here's a New York Times articleabout the Midsummer Double Classic.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 15 2010 08:55 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Benjamin Grimm wrote: There was a period of time in the 1960's when two All Star Games were played each year. I know little of the details, though. Why was it implemented? How long did it last? Why was it discontinued? Was the All-Star break still three games, or was it longer? Were both games played on consecutive days? Were they both played in the same park? Was one of the games a Tuesday game? I guess I could look it up, and perhaps I will, but not just now. The ASG began as a way for players to earn $$ for their pensions since the owners weren't taking of that then. I believe some years had 3?!? (haven;t read the link)

Benjamin Grimm Jul 15 2010 09:07 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Here's a New York Times articleabout the Midsummer Double Classic. Cool! I guess I'm not the only one thinking about this today. When Midsummer Had Two Classics By RICHARD SANDOMIR Published: July 15, 2008 The American and National Leagues played two All-Star Games each year. It was a slightly daffy idea that sounds nothing but harebrained in retrospect. Who needed a second Midsummer Classic that wasn’t always a classic? Those were the days before interleague play, days when baseball lore tells us players from each league were raring to whip their rivals, and league presidents delivered pep talks to stoke the players’ juices. But there was a simple and obvious reason to play two games: money. "If no dollars were involved," Commissioner Ford Frick said in 1959, "we wouldn’t play it. However, in my heart, I know it’s not a greedy grab as some have called it." The primary reason for the second game was to put more money into the players’ pension fund. According to a news report at the time, baseball had fallen behind in some payments, and a second game would finance the shortfall, and then some. "The players were looking to address their pocketbooks," said John Thorn, a baseball historian. "They weren’t thinking that the two games diluted the All-Star Game." Marvin Miller, who would later become the head of the players union, said that the financial records he eventually found showed increased revenues to the pension fund. "But eventually, there was a realization that one game was better than two," he said. Miller said the talks that kept the two-a-year games going for four seasons became tangled in negotiations over extending the season to 162 games for expansion that would start in 1961, without paying the players "a nickel more." The deal, he said, was to increase the pension funding by perpetuating the playing of a second game. While Miller could not say whether the owners had enough foresight to use the 162-game ploy in 1959, Lee Lowenfish, another historian, said he believed they did. "In 1946," he said, "Larry MacPhail wanted to add 14 more games to defuse union possibilities. I definitely think they knew about the eight extra games, but that’s the problem with the history then: the records are hidden." (MacPhail was a top Yankees official at the time.) There wasn’t much consistency with the scheduling of the games. In 1959, Game 1 was played in Pittsburgh on July 7 and Game 2 in Los Angeles on Aug. 3. The next year, the games were two days apart, but in 1961 and 1962, they were separated by 20 days. In 1959, they were played in two National League stadiums; in 1960, they were staged at two American League ballparks (Municipal Stadium in Kansas City and Yankee Stadium); but in the next two years, they were split between each league. After the second game in 1960, which drew only 38,362 at Yankee Stadium, Harvey Kuenn of the Cleveland Indians, the American League player representative, said he wanted a final determination about whether the two-game format should continue. Before the second 1961 All-Star Game was to be played at Fenway Park, John Drebinger, a New York Times sports columnist, speculated that it might be the last year with two midseason games. "The public at large is finding a second all-star attraction something of an anticlimax, like playing a second World Series in Brazil," he wrote. The players had every reason to continue the pension-funding second game, so off they went the next season to play two again. In Washington, the National League won, with Juan Marichal the victor in relief. Then, at Wrigley Field, with home runs by Pete Runnels, Leon Wagner and Rocky Colavito, the American League won, 9-4. But four months later, owners ended this strange period in baseball history. They agreed to increase the players’ share of proceeds from a single All-Star Game. "I don’t think any other sports has ever had two All-Star Games, and it just showed that baseball had no leadership," Lowenfish said. "It was certainly haphazard."

Fman99 Jul 15 2010 09:21 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

Frayed Knot wrote: So, even though we have to wait until 10PM EDT to renew our fix, we're fortunately not one of the Sixteen teams with an extra day off. That's even more ridiculous.

MFS62 Jul 15 2010 10:04 AM Re: 2010 All-Star Game

I attended the 1960 ASG in Yankee Stadium with a friend who was a Pirate fan. The NL won 6-0, Pirate Vern Law was the winning pitcher and Whitey Ford was the loser. http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes ... 7130.shtml We went home happy. Later