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Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 05:18 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 20 2010 09:53 AM

(This IGT is dedicated to CF's nephew). As bad as things have been going, I really feel like we're one good offensive night away from turning the ship around again. Dbags opposite Dickey tonight with rookie righty Barry (Barrrr-ry! Barrrr-ry) Enright, who will be making his 4th big league start. Enright has pitched fairly well in 3 starts, despite a 1-2 record. Let's kick his ass.

Ceetar Jul 20 2010 06:33 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

After two days in the desert sun, my skin began to turn red.

metirish Jul 20 2010 07:02 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

A classic Harper column today , we ain't winning anything anyway so stay away form the big arms but by all means go get Westbrook RIGHT NOW to start Thursday. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... er20s.html Jake Westbrook, not Dan Haren, Roy Oswalt, is the answer for New York Mets as trading deadline looms The Mets aren't getting Roy Oswalt or Dan Haren at this trading deadline, but they don't need those aces to stay in the playoff race over the next couple of months. What they do need is to make a deal for a starter right now, today, so they can get Hisanori Takahashi out of the rotation before his next start on Thursday in L.A. Look, the way Francisco Rodriguez is going and the way Mike Pelfrey is struggling after his latest disaster Monday night, the Mets aren't winning a championship this season anyway, so they need to be prudent in holding onto their few top prospects. Yet they have to move quickly to get a serviceable arm because even a No. 4-type starter could make a crucial difference at the moment in giving them a chance to get to October. All of which means it's time for GM Omar Minaya to go ahead and pull the trigger on Jake Westbrook. I know, I know, that's not exactly a name that makes Mets fans ecstatic. Personally, of the available pitchers in that category, I'd rather have Ted Lilly, Brett Myers, Ben Sheets or Jeremy Guthrie, but all indications are those pitchers' teams are all looking for at least one top prospect in a trade. None of them are worth Jenrry Mejia or Wilmer Flores, and there is doubt among baseball people about whether Fernando Martinez is highly regarded enough these days to get such a deal done. The Indians, meanwhile, would trade the 33-year-old Westbrook in a minute for a mid-level prospect if the Mets would pick up most of what's left on his $11 million contract this season. Westbrook is 6-5 with a 4.67 ERA in 113 innings, and he pitched poorly against the Mets when they were in Cleveland a few weeks ago. That outing caused some Mets people to "jump ship" on him, according to one person in the organization who still thinks the righthanded sinkerballer is worth a shot. "He's a veteran with a reputation as a gamer," the Mets person said, "so you have to think he'd be revitalized by getting out of Cleveland and getting into a pennant race. His sinker-slider type stuff would get a boost coming to the National League, too." The timing is all-important. Now that teams have seen a lot of Takahashi and his change-up, he's outlived his usefulness in the rotation, but he could still be of value in the bullpen, giving hitters no more than one look at him in any one outing. The Mets need all the help they can get in that bullpen, which is why they were scouting the Blue Jays in Baltimore last week, looking at Kevin Gregg and Scott Downs, two relievers who are available. As for a starter, the Mets would love to get an Oswalt or a Haren, but all indications are they wouldn't be willing to deliver a package of top prospects it will take to satisfy either the Astros or the Diamondbacks - nor would they want to pick up their pricey contracts. As for the others on the market, Myers' stock has risen most of late because he has put some strong starts together, but he's making only $3.1 million with a $2 million buyout on his contract - plus a mutual option for $8 million next year - so the Astros aren't necessarily looking to merely dump his contract. And the problem, according to scouts and executives, is that because there are so many teams in contention range to be buyers, it's a seller's market. "It's going to go down to the deadline for at least a few of these guys," one NL executive said Monday, "because there are so many potential buyers." If the Mets think they can make a better deal by waiting until the July 31 deadline, they need to remember the Yankees are now hovering again because of Andy Pettitte's groin pull. GM Brian Cashman may be committed to Sergio Mitre at the moment, but if he decides he'd rather have Lilly or Myers, he has more to offer than the Mets. Finally, with Johan Santana looking like an ace again, the Mets aren't desperate for a difference-maker. But they desperately need one more starter to eat innings and improve their shaky bullpen at the same time. Westbrook may not be a sexy deal. But the Mets don't need a savior. Mostly they need someone besides Takahashi to start against the Dodgers on Thursday. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... z0uE9O3Oto

seawolf17 Jul 20 2010 07:28 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

Wait wait wait. "Barry Enright"? Like "The Joker's Wild?" Who the hell names their kid Barry Enright?

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 08:34 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

Look, the way Francisco Rodriguez is going and the way Mike Pelfrey is struggling after his latest disaster Monday night, the Mets aren't winning a championship this season anyway, so they need to be prudent in holding onto their few top prospects. Yet they have to move quickly to get a serviceable arm because even a No. 4-type starter could make a crucial difference at the moment in giving them a chance to get to October. They aren't winning a championship anyway, but they should move quickly to move to get to the playoffs. What kind of mental twisting does it take to achieve a mindset that a championship is unwinnable but the playoffs (and the futility we will find there) remain a noble goal?

Ceetar Jul 20 2010 08:40 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

[quote="Edgy DC"] Look, the way Francisco Rodriguez is going and the way Mike Pelfrey is struggling after his latest disaster Monday night, the Mets aren't winning a championship this season anyway, so they need to be prudent in holding onto their few top prospects. Yet they have to move quickly to get a serviceable arm because even a No. 4-type starter could make a crucial difference at the moment in giving them a chance to get to October. They aren't winning a championship anyway, but they should move quickly to move to get to the playoffs. What kind of mental twisting does it take to achieve a mindset that a championship is unwinnable but the playoffs (and the futility we will find there) remain a noble goal?

It's funny too. If Pelfrey can rebound, with him and Santana the Mets have got a great shot in the playoffs. His very point is the Mets lack pitching depth, something that would be irrelevant to the playoffs.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 08:49 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

So Harper aside, how about some lineup suggestions? Considering all the negative Schaefer I've been giving to Bay and Barajas, we don't have to look far to find more at-bats for Carter and Thole. Davis seemed to be hitting the ball well all night, but not getting lucky.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 08:55 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

Barajas over the last month: .135 / .207 / .154 // .361 And it's not like his slumping began only a month ago. Bill Doran once was in a slump so deep that he said it shouldn't be called a slump anymore. That other guys who were slumping had begun saying "I've been in a Billy Doran recently." That's how deep he's slumping.

Ceetar Jul 20 2010 08:56 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

[quote="Edgy DC":g7i4haar]So Harper aside, how about some lineup suggestions? Considering all the negative Schaefer I've been giving to Bay and Barajas, we don't have to look far to find more at-bats for Carter and Thole. Davis seemed to be hitting the ball well all night, but not getting lucky.[/quote:g7i4haar] How about we run the exact same lineup out there. Try for some consistency and stability? But I'm pretty sure the Mets have already said they're playing Thole. Reyes, Castillo, Wright, Beltran, Davis, Pagan, Bay, Thole, Dickey?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 08:56 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

I'd stick with Bay unless he's banged up, though I'd give Barajas the Francoeur treatment right now. As it is they're pitching around Bay to get to Barajas.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 20 2010 09:00 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

[quote="Ceetar":8cdrwsso]Reyes, Castillo, Wright, Beltran, Davis, Pagan, Bay, Thole[/quote:8cdrwsso] I might tweak the sequence a bit, but those are the guys I'd send out there as the starting eight more often than not.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 09:16 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

[quote="Ceetar":28t48fp4]How about we run the exact same lineup out there. Try for some consistency and stability?[/quote:28t48fp4] I think I've seen enough consistency out of Barajas.

Centerfield Jul 20 2010 09:18 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

So are we no longer signing Rod Barajas to an extension? I don't know what lineup will work, but can we score some fucking runs please?

The Second Spitter Jul 20 2010 09:19 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

[quote="Ceetar":p17azulp]After two days in the desert sun, my skin began to turn red.[/quote:p17azulp] That was gonna be my IGT title!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2010 09:31 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

PSST! Thole walks a lot, makes contact a lot, and may actually have something like doubles power. #2, perhaps? Reyes Pagan (lefties)/Thole (righties) Wright Beltran Davis/Bay Bay/Davis Thole/Pagan Castillo Dickey

Ceetar Jul 20 2010 09:31 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20: Let's not suck, Dickey

[quote="The Second Spitter":1w47ilo4][quote="Ceetar":1w47ilo4]After two days in the desert sun, my skin began to turn red.[/quote:1w47ilo4] That was gonna be my IGT title![/quote:1w47ilo4] I figured as much. ;-)

Centerfield Jul 20 2010 02:18 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

In the states for a few weeks and he's got an IGT named after him. What a country!

metsmarathon Jul 20 2010 02:28 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

y'know, if he wants to improve his english, what better place to learn than a forum populated with such erudite mets fans. and if he wants to learn a much more interesting vocabulary, introduce him to fman.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 02:47 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

How about some punctuation? There's some Korean youth out there learning English all wrong thanks to metsmmarathon posts. In fact, all of you, shape up.

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2010 03:08 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="Edgy DC":1nbjnjnm]How about some punctuation? There's some Korean youth out there learning English all wrong thanks to metsmmarathon posts. In fact, all of you, shape up.[/quote:1nbjnjnm] "Shut up", he explained.

G-Fafif Jul 20 2010 03:20 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Reyes SS Pagan RF Wright 3B Beltran CF Davis 1B Bay LF Thole C Castillo 2B Dickey P

TransMonk Jul 20 2010 03:50 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="G-Fafif":25zm23jg]Reyes SS Pagan RF Wright 3B Beltran CF Davis 1B Bay LF Thole C Castillo 2B Dickey P[/quote:25zm23jg] Now, that's a good lookin' lineup.

G-Fafif Jul 20 2010 04:23 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Snakes in the grass: Young CF Johnson 2B Upton RF LaRoche 1B Reynolds 3B Drew SS Snyder C Parra LF Enright P

Ceetar Jul 20 2010 04:38 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Ollie is throwing, like, right now, like! He's got a full beard! Warthen is watching! Will he be activated? Only time will tell.

Ashie62 Jul 20 2010 06:34 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

LETS!

Zvon Jul 20 2010 06:41 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Willets Point Jul 20 2010 06:54 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Ashie62 Jul 20 2010 07:43 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Where did the Game go?? Technical frailties?

themetfairy Jul 20 2010 08:00 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

We're getting the pix on the Arizona feed, thanks to the MLB package (which is having its post All-Star game free preview).

Fman99 Jul 20 2010 08:02 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

SNY figured out how to properly cover a team that has played unwatchable baseball recently.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:03 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

I wasn't getting it for awhile myself. It is the last day of my fathers day deal. Then it just came on I'm not renewing til they make me. So shhhhhhh...

Ashie62 Jul 20 2010 08:05 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

No SNY on Cablevision in North Jersey. Time for a movie.

Kong76 Jul 20 2010 08:05 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 20 2010 08:06 PM

Staring at SNY logo in HDTV and getting transistor radio quality sound kinda makes it easier to think about going to sleep. They can't show the Arizona feed up here on MLB unfortunately.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:06 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

They will probly pull the plug mid game. Wouldn't surprise me in the least. We loaded the bases in the first and then Davis and Bay K? Oyvay!

themetfairy Jul 20 2010 08:06 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="Kong76":kw1jdwrw]Staring at SNY logo in HDTV and getting transistor radio quality sound kinda makes it easier to think about going to sleep. They can't show the Arizona feed up herw on MLB unfortunately.[/quote:kw1jdwrw] They're not supposed to show it down here either. But it's on anyway.

Ashie62 Jul 20 2010 08:07 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

New episode of "Rescue Me". Good for an hour. Gary Apple is a jackass

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:08 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

No excuse for that error by Castillo SNY booth..WHA!, scored a hit! Holy moly!

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:09 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="themetfairy":l9t6btbl][quote="Kong76":l9t6btbl]Staring at SNY logo in HDTV and getting transistor radio quality sound kinda makes it easier to think about going to sleep. They can't show the Arizona feed up herw on MLB unfortunately.[/quote:l9t6btbl] They're not supposed to show it down here either. But it's on anyway.[/quote:l9t6btbl] I love when stuff like that happens.

The Second Spitter Jul 20 2010 08:09 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Yeah, lucky those who didnt have access to the feed who didn't have to see i t.

Kong76 Jul 20 2010 08:11 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

I get "channel not available" ... not that I was gonna stay and watch all night anyways. And fairy, you have to live far enough away not to be under the blackout umbrella no?

themetfairy Jul 20 2010 08:12 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

We have the blackout umbrella for both NYC and Philly. But nobody's minding the store tonight, I guess.

Kong76 Jul 20 2010 08:13 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

More importantly (to me), I wonder if Fast Forward will have the game tomorrow morning. I mean, the cameras are probably working it's more likely just some stupid satellite or distribution problem. Nigh nigh ...

Kong76 Jul 20 2010 08:14 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

(wasn't answering you tmf)

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:16 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="The Second Spitter":3be4uvu4]Yeah, lucky those who didnt have access to the feed who didn't have to see i t.[/quote:3be4uvu4] It was a hard hit ball, not quite in the hole and took a nice healthy bounce his way. He gloved it but it spun out and behind him. It may have taken a little higher bounce up than was normal, or anticipated, but not badly and if it did he had time to adjust.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:16 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

The Dickster pitchin outta jams. Lookin tricky.

The Second Spitter Jul 20 2010 08:23 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="Zvon":ejou5ed1][quote="The Second Spitter":ejou5ed1]Yeah, lucky those who didnt have access to the feed who didn't have to see i t.[/quote:ejou5ed1] It was a hard hit ball, not quite in the hole and took a nice healthy bounce his way. He gloved it but it spun out and behind him. It may have taken a little higher bounce up than was normal, or anticipated, but not badly and if it did he had time to adjust.[/quote:ejou5ed1] Zvon is the Bob Murphy of CPF. (I was among the unfortunate souls who saw it).

themetfairy Jul 20 2010 08:29 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

The picture is back. Thank goodness, because the Arizona announcers were talking about everything other than the game. Although they're probably talking about Upton's home run right now....

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:29 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="The Second Spitter":25wh026v][quote="Zvon":25wh026v][quote="The Second Spitter":25wh026v]Yeah, lucky those who didnt have access to the feed who didn't have to see i t.[/quote:25wh026v] It was a hard hit ball, not quite in the hole and took a nice healthy bounce his way. He gloved it but it spun out and behind him. It may have taken a little higher bounce up than was normal, or anticipated, but not badly and if it did he had time to adjust.[/quote:25wh026v] Zvon is the Bob Murphy of CPF. (I was among the unfortunate souls who saw it).[/quote:25wh026v] Wow. I think that's the most flattering thing ever said about me here. To me, anyways. I am not worthy compared to Murph YOW. Upton goes yard on R.A.

The Second Spitter Jul 20 2010 08:31 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Hey Mets, try something different this 1/2 inning; score some FRIGGIN' RUNS!

The Second Spitter Jul 20 2010 08:35 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Another K for Cy Enright...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2010 08:36 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 20 2010 08:38 PM

Thing-I-Hate-About-Wayne of the Night: His vocal tone lies. His voice climbs quicker than Sterling's-- okay, as quick as Sterling's-- the moment a ball gets to the outfield; about a third of the balls on which he gets the "it might be gone" rise in intonation even reach the warning track. Coupled with his lagging about ten seconds behind the play, it makes following the game in anything close to real time exasperating. Howie might be a little tougher to take than he used to be, but at least his tone don't lie.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:36 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Our drives, like Beltran's there, looked good off the bat but then it dropped like a ten ton weight. Their drives don't. Wassup widdat? 7 Ks for Enright already? All the sudden every pitcher we face is an ace.

Ashie62 Jul 20 2010 08:37 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

I like Zvon's call better than the "booth".

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2010 08:40 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="Zvon":r43mcriy]7 Ks for Enright already? All the sudden every pitcher we face is an ace.[/quote:r43mcriy] The Mets have never seen him before. Ergo... this should be no f*cking shocker.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:47 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

aw shit. Carlos has that drive last year. Dagnabbitt. 0-2 Diamondwarts

The Second Spitter Jul 20 2010 08:48 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Seriously...... wtf is wrong with this team?

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:49 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

If we don't get our shit together on the road the hill we will have to climb becomes a freakin mountain. Ron says he does not think Carlos will ever again have a second gear like he used to :( 0-3 Glitterfags

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2010 08:51 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

This Arizona leg of the trip is like slow, dry death.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:53 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":31dzn1yd]This Arizona leg of the trip is like slow, dry death.[/quote:31dzn1yd] Gah, now I got dry mouth. Thole will give us a good at bat here.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:55 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Or he'll do that. Hey, he swung at a strike and hit it. I'll take it.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 08:57 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

I thought a tie goes to the runner. Well, it does in my book. Here ya go Castillo:

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 08:59 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

I still think we're gonna win this game, especially after Remarkable Athlete holds 'em here.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:02 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":n8k8abxa]I still think we're gonna win this game, especially after Remarkable Athlete holds 'em here.[/quote:n8k8abxa] I'm with ya R.A. Dickshot.

Ashie62 Jul 20 2010 09:03 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

This team is seriously F'ed up. The Jerry Maunel watch may even be back on soon. If they traded Bay now I would not be upset.

Fman99 Jul 20 2010 09:05 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Yes, I've been drinking. But did anyone else see that Evian commercial with the roller skating infants and think that they'd popped a synapse?

The Second Spitter Jul 20 2010 09:06 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Fuck me the Mets have a base-hit.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 09:06 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Here we go

Fman99 Jul 20 2010 09:08 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

AAAAH THAT SUCKED. Fucking GIDP for Pagan. Shit going sour. I hate seeing them lose to dumb rookies with Amish neckbeards.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 09:08 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

There we go

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2010 09:08 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

(Sarcastically clapping alone in the living room)

The Second Spitter Jul 20 2010 09:09 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Oh, fuck this shit - i'm going to the gym.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:09 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Jeeze Loueeze! How do you double up Reyes and Pagan on a grounder to first?! Okay, okay, like that. I know.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:10 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="Fman99":6vxyzqah]Yes, I've been drinking. But did anyone else see that Evian commercial with the roller skating infants and think that they'd popped a synapse?[/quote:6vxyzqah] I haven't yet, and I will.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2010 09:14 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 20 2010 09:15 PM

With each passing inning, I feel a little more like punching myself in the face for listening.

metirish Jul 20 2010 09:14 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Sorry , but I can't be bothered , I'm tired and this offense won't keep me awake . Putrid to watch.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 09:19 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="Ashie62":6dpdw42i]This team is seriously F'ed up. The Jerry Maunel watch may even be back on soon. If they traded Bay now I would not be upset.[/quote:6dpdw42i] It's on. I put it on.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:19 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]With each passing inning, I feel a little more like punching myself in the face for listening.

Zvon: K, as long as you
don't take it out on me.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:25 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Why am I not surprised Bay hits into the tailor made DP. Classic SP on CC if u r watchin the game on a PC and also near a TV.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:29 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Mets home and away record are like totally opposite. So, we fire the road coach. Simple. *wipes hands

DocTee Jul 20 2010 09:30 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Irish has the perfect description for this game: putrid. The offense has been bad for weeks now, going back to the Reds series, at least. HoJo may be feeling some heat along with Jerry.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:32 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="DocTee":5i1awq1g]Irish has the perfect description for this game: putrid. The offense has been bad for weeks now, going back to the Reds series, at least. HoJo may be feeling some heat along with Jerry.[/quote:5i1awq1g] He better be.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 09:36 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Yabbut, the beginnings of this offensive drought go back to Reyes being out, Castillo being out Barajas being the catcher and Frencie playing allatime. A lineup of Reyes, Pagan, Wright, Beltran, Davis, Bay, Thole, Castillo is the best the Mets have put on the field all year: They will hit. They just haven't (yet) tonight.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 09:36 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Thole and Castillo. The actual guys I actually want to lead this off. Seriously, this team needs walking practice.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 09:37 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

KaFUCKING-BOOM! my friends.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 09:37 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Kablang. Good chance we encounter Heilman tonight.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:37 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

THOLE

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2010 09:38 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

AAAAND Thole pops his cherry!

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:41 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

July 20th: I pinch Dicky. *chuckle

DocTee Jul 20 2010 09:43 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Mark Grace is insufferable. I don;t know whether he is serious or joking. If the former, he's a fool, the latter, a moron.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 09:46 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="DocTee":vm3bkx1z]Mark Grace is insufferable. I don;t know whether he is serious or joking. If the former, he's a fool, the latter, a moron.[/quote:vm3bkx1z] Yup. The thought that this team actually has Joe Garagiola on the payroll while that sort of numbskullery is going on in the booth is hard to wrap my head around.

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 09:48 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Oh, just let somebody pitch, Jerry.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:50 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Good thing Dicky lasted as long as he did or Jerry would take out all his toys tonight.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:51 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

To the 9th! LETS

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 09:53 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 20 2010 09:54 PM

go mets

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 09:54 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Bloop & Blast is what we need

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:55 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

There's your blast.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 09:56 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Pagan got it in the wrong order but we can improvise from here.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 09:56 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Will settle for blast and blast

Zvon Jul 20 2010 09:56 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":395mwu47]go mets[/quote:395mwu47] Works for me. That single was kool though

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 09:58 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Let's give a kid a miracle here.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 10:01 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="Edgy DC":2nm75jzu]Let's give a kid a miracle here.[/quote:2nm75jzu] ....and use our one up for this decade?.. Come on Beltran! That was a shit pitch. Actually a pitchers pitch. U can do it Ike!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 10:02 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Ike's new bat will be the answer.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 20 2010 10:03 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

aaaaah, fuck

Zvon Jul 20 2010 10:03 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

goddamnfuckinshitcrapnutzboogerpuss

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 10:03 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="Zvon":1h02nfrz][quote="Edgy DC":1h02nfrz]Let's give a kid a miracle here.[/quote:1h02nfrz] ....and use our one up for this decade?..[/quote:1h02nfrz] Don't let's be frugal with the miracles. Seriously. There's always goodness beyond the goodness.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 10:04 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="Edgy DC":6xmcxrrf][quote="Zvon":6xmcxrrf][quote="Edgy DC":6xmcxrrf]Let's give a kid a miracle here.[/quote:6xmcxrrf] ....and use our one up for this decade?..[/quote:6xmcxrrf] Don't let's be frugal with the miracles. Seriously. There's always goodness beyond the goodness.[/quote:6xmcxrrf] K. But no point in tellin me that. Where's the Gods ear thread?

DocTee Jul 20 2010 10:10 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Going on a month without a series win. Booby V always talked about winning series, not games, and the Mets just aren't getting that done now. Frustrating, indeed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2010 10:11 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Keep in mind: this is the worst pitching staff in the league doing this against the Mets.

Zvon Jul 20 2010 10:13 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

If it wasn't for the fact that Bobby is still out there I would not be so short with jerry these days. I like Jerry a lot but I loved Bobby. Not carnally but pretty damn close. That's the killer LWFS.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 20 2010 10:49 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

If it weren't for the fact that Jerry were such a terrible manager, with the tendency to ever-so-subtly throw his guys-- players and coaches-- under the bus when he's called out on certain moves/tendencies by the press, I would not be so short with Jerry these days. I would love a syphilitic goat carnally if I were convinced it would mean Jerry out/Bobby in.

Ashie62 Jul 20 2010 11:45 PM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":thtc0cf2]If it weren't for the fact that Jerry were such a terrible manager, with the tendency to ever-so-subtly throw his guys-- players and coaches-- under the bus when he's called out on certain moves/tendencies by the press, I would not be so short with Jerry these days. I would love a syphilitic goat carnally if I were convinced it would mean Jerry out/Bobby in.[/quote:thtc0cf2] Jerry talked about "a lack of effort" during the postgame. I see that as reflecting on Jerry moreso than the team. You might want to save that goat for me also.

Gwreck Jul 21 2010 12:46 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

What a load of crap. I didn't see any techs hurriedly running around when the technical difficulties hit but I do recall GKR joking about their equiptment truck not having any AC. Was 113 here today so that might've done it. I agree that this we the best lineup we've had on the field all year and had we actually broken through in the first I think we would have won. It didn't strike me as the usual type of disaster-game but regardless, this losing has got to stop. In other trivial news, Pelfrey and Barajas were yuking it up during BP and Barajas was wearing Pelfrey's jersey. I didn't think they had much to be laughing about, personally. It looks like they still haven't broken in the new knuckleball catching mitt yet - it was still being broken in during warmups. I did appreciate that Barajas throws knuckleballs to the other catchers during practice.

metirish Jul 21 2010 04:50 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

A brief summary please. I went to bed at 3-0 and it looked hopeless.

seawolf17 Jul 21 2010 04:51 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="metirish":ehu8bp79]A brief summary please. I went to bed at 3-0 and it looked hopeless.[/quote:ehu8bp79] Still hopeless this morning. You didn't miss anything.

Kong76 Jul 21 2010 04:54 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="seawolf17":32tizaoq][quote="metirish":32tizaoq]A brief summary please.[/quote:32tizaoq][/quote:32tizaoq] Mets were good last month, they suck this month.

Edgy DC Jul 21 2010 05:40 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Homers by Thole leading off the eighth and Pagan leading off the ninth brought the team to within one. The murderous part was that we were hoping for, and it seemed they were going for, a third homer, because this team just doesn't do rallies these days.

metirish Jul 21 2010 06:11 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Thanks , I figured me asking for a brief summary would get some laughs. I hope Alex Cora doesn't catch us having fun, he'll not be best pleased. Cheers Edgy for your report.

Fman99 Jul 21 2010 06:22 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Ugh. They suck.

Frayed Knot Jul 21 2010 06:44 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Two half-innings sucked: - top 1 when they started the inning with two straight hits (and three straight line-drives) plus a walk but couldn't score and - bottom 4 when, facing 7-8-9 after getting the first two outs, Dickey went walk - triple - single. And, yeah, the single was a swinging bunt and a less rusty Beltran probably runs down the blast, but it was still sucky timing. Games turn on stuff like that. Of course going down in the 2nd thru 7th innings on like 5 pitches per didn't help either. (actually 14, 9, 11, 10, 7, 12 -- it just seemed like 5 each) Also Ike picked a bad day to have a bad day. Not only was he the main culprit in the 1st inning but, in all, K'd on 3 pitches, 4 pitches, and 6 pitches - in addition to rolling a single up the middle on an 0-2 pitch. You've heard of batters trying to hit it where it's pitched? Well Ike was trying to hit it *IF* it was pitched.

metirish Jul 21 2010 06:49 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Bay is hitting(not hitting) .200 with two extra base hits so far in July. I keep hearing from the booth and other places that he's bound to get hot and carry the team for a month, I don't know , he looks about the worst hitter on the team.

Edgy DC Jul 21 2010 07:21 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="Frayed Knot":134cqvjs]And, yeah, the single was a swinging bunt and a less rusty Beltran probably runs down the blast, but it was still sucky timing.[/quote:134cqvjs] The fear in parts located around the region of my house is that this isn't Rusty Beltran, but this is Carlos Beltran, and it's he's never going to be a decent centerfielder again, much less a good or elite one. But I'm spoiled and depressed, I know. [quote="metirish":134cqvjs]Bay is hitting(not hitting) .200 with two extra base hits so far in July. I keep hearing from the booth and other places that he's bound to get hot and carry the team for a month, I don't know , he looks about the worst hitter on the team.[/quote:134cqvjs] Let's be fair here and give Barajas his due.

Ceetar Jul 21 2010 07:28 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="Edgy DC":1v8814ya][quote="Frayed Knot":1v8814ya]And, yeah, the single was a swinging bunt and a less rusty Beltran probably runs down the blast, but it was still sucky timing.[/quote:1v8814ya] The fear in parts located around the region of my house is that this isn't Rusty Beltran, but this is Carlos Beltran, and it's he's never going to be a decent centerfielder again, much less a good or elite one. But I'm spoiled and depressed, I know. [/quote:1v8814ya] Yeah. that's the concern. It's not time to readjust the CF/RF situation right now, and that specific fly ball was a rust and not a decline thing (since he misjudged it), but you can't help but worry. that's the nature of all this. Now, i think it's the brace and the not the knee. The problem is how useful the knee can be without the brace. You wonder if it continues if we'll get a Forrest Gump type situation where Beltran rounds third on a hit to the OF and digs into that extra gear and the brace shatters and he slides in with the winning run at the plate and emerges his old self again.

The Second Spitter Jul 21 2010 07:30 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Observe how the Mets cost me 270 bucks on a $20 bet. They're done this to me at least 3 times in the last fortnight. I'm never gonna bet on them again this season.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 21 2010 07:43 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Betting on baseball can get you banned from the Hall of Fame, yaknow.

attgig Jul 21 2010 07:46 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Does Pagan in CF prevent that triple, and give us the runs? If beltran really doesn't have that second gear anymore...maybe RF is a better spot for him... If Pagan catches that, then we score enough runs for Frankie to blow a save... on edit: errr, I mean have an ump give us a win with blown calls...

Frayed Knot Jul 21 2010 07:59 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="attgig":16x8no94]Does Pagan in CF prevent that triple, and give us the runs? If beltran really doesn't have that second gear anymore...maybe RF is a better spot for him... If Pagan catches that, then we score enough runs for Frankie to blow a save... on edit: errr, I mean have an ump give us a win with blown calls...[/quote:16x8no94] Hard to tell. There's a lot of room in that OF and the ball was hit to just about the deepest part. I think part of the problem is that we got used to Beltran running down almost anything that something seems wrong if/when he doesn't even though even a healthy gold-glover obviously can't snag everything. Either way I say it's too soon to tell if he's permanently compromised out there and I'd be shocked if they didn't give him the rest of the season to prove otherwise. Besides, it's not like RF in CF is a picnic either.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 21 2010 08:59 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

Looking at the video today-- was Howie-and-Wayneing last night-- I think Pagan gets there. [quote="Ceetar":d0qn6o6r]Now, i think it's the brace and the not the knee. The problem is how useful the knee can be without the brace.[/quote:d0qn6o6r] It seems to me that this may be the case. A healthy Usain Bolt running with that thing probably loses a tenth of a second off his 100 time, at least.

MFS62 Jul 21 2010 09:51 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"] I would love a syphilitic goat carnally if I were convinced it would mean Jerry out/Bobby in.

Now that would make a fabulous Kodak moment.

Later

Ceetar Jul 21 2010 10:07 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1c3zwzga]Looking at the video today-- was Howie-and-Wayneing last night-- I think Pagan gets there. [quote="Ceetar":1c3zwzga]Now, i think it's the brace and the not the knee. The problem is how useful the knee can be without the brace.[/quote:1c3zwzga] It seems to me that this may be the case. A healthy Usain Bolt running with that thing probably loses a tenth of a second off his 100 time, at least.[/quote:1c3zwzga] Pagan does probably get there. If you hit it again, Beltran probably gets there though too.

batmagadanleadoff Jul 21 2010 10:23 AM Re: Mets @ Dbags 7/20:Won't someone please think of the children

We'd be winless (0-6) after the All Star break if not for ump Cuzzi's blown call.