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Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon
metirish Jul 14 2010 10:38 AM |
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Lennon Mets' fortunes changed dramatically from April to All-Star break Originally published: July 12, 2010 4:37 PM Updated: July 12, 2010 8:27 PM By DAVID LENNON david.lennon@newsday.com Here are a few things to ponder as the Mets rest up in anticipation of playing meaningful games in September ...
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TransMonk Jul 14 2010 10:44 AM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
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A thousand times YES!
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Edgy DC Jul 14 2010 10:52 AM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
They didn't get as lucky as all that.
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Ceetar Jul 14 2010 11:18 AM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
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Agreed on this. And it's not like Omar threw darts at the available players list and said "Dickey! Takahashi! That'll be my depth" He's gotta get some credit for bringing these guys in from all over the world. It also may suggest that he, despite yammering on about it, didn't fully trust Maine (and Perez) and Niese to be solid contributors and wanted to make sure he had real backup plans.
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TransMonk Jul 14 2010 12:05 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
I disagree. There was absolutely no indication that Dickey would perform to the level he has in 2010. His best ML season was last year for the Twinkies as a reliever when he pitched to a 4.62 ERA. I would need to know exactly what insight Omar had before I give him credit for anything more than luck (out of desperation and lack of options) for picking him up.
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Ceetar Jul 14 2010 12:09 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
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Yes, but who's to say Omar didn't realize Dickey could stick? Or the guy that's next that we haven't seen? Maybe Misch is actually decent? etc.
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TransMonk Jul 14 2010 12:11 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
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Based on what?
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Edgy DC Jul 14 2010 12:43 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
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Really? No credit at all? I'm certain these guys aren't throwing darts at the wall, but making very deliberate and sober decisions --- even about the longshots.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 14 2010 12:54 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
Maybe, unlike us, he had minor-league depth to build, and, like us, he just thought a knuckler would be a fun, tasty way to do it.
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Ceetar Jul 14 2010 12:55 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
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Uhh..how about signing him? And making him one of the first call ups? I don't have access to Omar's brain/scouting notes when they signed him. But I would assume they said more than "Throws Knuckleball cause it's all he's got. Mostly sucks. "
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metirish Jul 14 2010 01:02 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
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Access to Omar's brain http://omarsbrain.wordpress.com/ not seeing anything about Dickey ...yet
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Zvon Jul 14 2010 01:08 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
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Oh my, I just got a woody.
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TransMonk Jul 14 2010 01:08 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
I give Omar credit for picking up a cheap and disposable arm that he could throw against the wall when/if Maine/Ollie/Niese didn't work out. I don't find the signing any different than Tim Redding/Livan Hernandez/Jose Lima/Chan Ho Park/etc...Dickey ended up pitching spectacularly, and I'll give Dickey credit for that...but Omar has a history of having has-beens and never-weres waiting in the wings that rarely pan out the way Dickey has.
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Edgy DC Jul 14 2010 01:11 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
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And their failures should count against him just as much as Dickey's success should count for him. Of course he didn't know what Dickey would do --- else the guy would have been the opening day starter --- but he clearly had an idea of what he could do if circumstances aligned, and moved accordingly. All signings --- large and small --- are guesses and bets. Informed ones, yes, but they all need a leap of faith. And this was the scouting report he put his faith in, over maybe one-two dozen other retreads. Good for him.
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TransMonk Jul 14 2010 01:17 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
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And there is no luck involved in this?
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Edgy DC Jul 14 2010 01:21 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
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Of course there is, but luck is the residue of design.
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TransMonk Jul 14 2010 01:24 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
I can agree with that.
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Zvon Jul 14 2010 03:14 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
I'll say this right now, right here.
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Zvon Jul 14 2010 03:14 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
Oh, cept for maybe an arm.
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duan Jul 14 2010 03:36 PM Re: Second Half Thoughts with David Lennon |
funnily enough I think Omar's got a pretty good record of trawling through the bargain buckets for pitching gold, it's when he settles for 'lower risk' totally proven mediocrity that he's got burned.
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