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soupcan Jul 15 2010 10:59 AM

I'm just fucking stunned. Howard Stern has been playing the unedited tapes all week and it's just blowing my mind. If there were any doubt left in anyone's mind that Mel was a fucked-up individual, these tapes shoud ERADICATE that. Besides the threatening, misogynistic, racist, hate filled tirades (and they are 'tirades' in the most genuine sense of the word) he is panting - panting - for air in the midst of all it. Think of the loudest and longest you've ever yelled and that's what he is doing in every single bit of these tapes. Just wow.

metirish Jul 15 2010 11:02 AM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

A Bale and Gibson mashup........ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ge02ey ... r_embedded the heavy breathing is just freaky

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2010 11:21 AM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

The panting is what leads me to think that maybe there's undiagnosed/misdiagnosed mental illness involved here. Well, that and the heaping helpings of hate-n'-crazy.

soupcan Jul 15 2010 11:43 AM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2ntxhaf1]The panting is what leads me to think that maybe there's undiagnosed/misdiagnosed mental illness involved.[/quote:2ntxhaf1] Or copious amounts of alcohol consumed?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2010 11:54 AM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

[quote="soupcan":1iyo8obd][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1iyo8obd]The panting is what leads me to think that maybe there's undiagnosed/misdiagnosed mental illness involved.[/quote:1iyo8obd] Or copious amounts of alcohol consumed?[/quote:1iyo8obd] Touche.

Edgy DC Jul 15 2010 11:56 AM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

There's definitely something chemical feeding the hate and crazy.

Centerfield Jul 15 2010 12:22 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

I haven't heard the tapes, but I don't think I'd be stunned. I wouldn't guess a large percentage of anti-Semites would be open-minded towards blacks and Latinos, but what do I know. Gibson's a douchebag and an idiot. I hear he has an ice rink in his backyard and eats pennies. If Oprah Winfrey went off on a racist, misogynistic tirade, that would be stunning.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2010 12:30 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

Apparently, you've never heard Oprah's sidesplitting "Mammy Faggeleh Be Shoppin'" routine. (To be fair, she only does it at barbecues.) Seriously, though... however unsurprising, the Gibson stuff is disquieting.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 15 2010 12:39 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

It's off-the-charts. He's the Lord Humungous of inappropriate remarks and threats. Though I suppose "you must blow me first" could become a catch phrase.

soupcan Jul 15 2010 12:50 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

Exactly. CF - the thing about it is that even though one may think one wouldn't be surprised by something Gibson would do - this is SO far beyond even that.

metirish Jul 15 2010 12:52 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

Clearly a very unstable person, when he left his long time wife for this girl was it a slave he wanted?

Edgy DC Jul 15 2010 12:59 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

I only heard the first one. I couldn't bring myself to listen to the rest. I walked away from Braveheart stunned --- not so much at the technical brilliance and deft artistic touches, but that anybody could produce such a supremely self-aggrandizing film for himself... and get away with it. Hell, they gave him awards. Piled them on top of his self-aggrandizing head. So you'd think, with that attitude, I couldn't be stunned. But landsakes, the surprise isn't even that he could speak like that, but that anybody could. At least anybody who wears a shirt seven days a week and doesn't talk to Zeus. Yeah, I know people have that much vitriol, but in order to live in the world, they learn to contain and/or disguise it. And, yeah, I know that being as rich as Croseus gives you a great deal of protection from and leverage in that world. But still, here I am. Stunned.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 15 2010 01:07 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

[quote="Edgy DC"]I only heard the first one. I couldn't bring myself to listen to the rest. I walked away from Braveheart stunned --- not so much at the technical brilliance and deft artistic touches, but that anybody could produce such a supremely self-aggrandizing film for himself... and get away with it. Hell, they gave him awards. Piled them on top of his self-aggrandizing head.

Well, it's Hollywood. Overripe ego isn't exactly a disqualifier for peer regard.

And if my masturbatory exercises were as well crafted as his (that one, anyhow), I might never have gotten married.

Willets Point Jul 15 2010 01:07 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

I kind of liked Braveheart.

Edgy DC Jul 15 2010 01:21 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

Sure, so did I. I tried to be clear that I wasn't particuarly knocking the film in general, so much as what it suggested about the man's relationship to himself.

TransMonk Jul 15 2010 01:22 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

Outside Mad Max 1 & 2 and Lethal Weapon 1 & 2, I don't really appreciate much about Mel's career. I guess I didn't mind Payback either. I never really saw him as anything more than a second-tier action hero.

RealityChuck Jul 15 2010 05:36 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

He was great in Gallipoli and showed some good light comedy chops in What Women Want.

Edgy DC Jul 15 2010 07:02 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

I certainly didn't mean to turn the thread into a referendum on his career. I only brought up the film because maybe looking backwards, one can perhaps see that it presents earlier clues of his extra-stratospheric self-regard. (Or conversely, a forced presentaton of self-regard to camouflage an extreme self-loathing, if one is so inclined.) And Lethal Weapon, yikey. To paraphrase Anthony-Michael Hall, anybody with a haircut like that, you know he's an asshole.

metirish Jul 15 2010 07:35 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

[quote="RealityChuck"]He was great in Gallipoli

Saw that recently again, great movie.....love this song form The Furey Brothers



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA79kVLH ... re=related

Frayed Knot Jul 15 2010 07:57 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

I think my favorite Mel movies were his early ones: 'Gallipoli' and 'Year of Living Dangerously' Never got around to the 'Mad Max' stuff and I thought 'Lethal Weapon' was trash.

Fman99 Jul 15 2010 08:05 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

He's off his nut. Totally gone. I did like Payback though.

metirish Jul 19 2010 01:29 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

Hitchens http://www.slate.com/id/2260937/ Weather I agree with Hitchens or not on anything I do find him an interesting read and fella.

Willets Point Jul 19 2010 01:33 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

I knew what he was going to say before I clicked the link. That's how predictable a bigoted hack like Hitchens is.

metirish Jul 19 2010 01:35 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

[quote="Willets Point":2bc4d06n]I knew what he was going to say before I clicked the link. That's how predictable a bigoted hack like Hitchens is.[/quote:2bc4d06n] It's certainly one of his favorite subjects.

Edgy DC Jul 19 2010 01:38 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

Hitchens is quite possibly dying, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him puttting the hammer down and accellerating his act perhaps as aggressively as Gibson is. The notion that Gibson's dad is a petty (and, again, self-aggrandizing) schismatic is pretty well documented, however.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 19 2010 01:40 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

I'm not sure there's anyone I know with as thorough and varied a repertoire of synonyms for "shit"-- "cloacal," e.g.-- as Hitchens. Which is appropriate, considering how many painstakingly-crafted turds the guy's tossed in his time. That said... I found myself making a similar point about Gibson-- that his brand of hatred bore the mark of his/his dad's apparently twisted faith--just this morning, to my mom. (A devout Catholic, she agreed.)

MFS62 Jul 20 2010 07:41 AM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

[quote="Willets Point":3nch4i5a]I knew what he was going to say before I clicked the link. That's how predictable a bigoted hack like Hitchens is.[/quote:3nch4i5a] I've never read his stuff before. Why are folks here attacking him? Is it his style? His prior writings? The piece that was linked? His treatment of the subject matter? What? Please explain in some detail. To me, it was an explanation of why Gibson may have acted the way he did. Later

Edgy DC Jul 20 2010 07:51 AM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

Hitchens has a long history of painting religion (and the avowedly religous) as the root of much, if not all, of the world's problems. I wouldn't go so far as to say people are attacking him. Willets, maybe, but he isn't folks.

MFS62 Jul 20 2010 08:52 AM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

[quote="Edgy DC":3mwltntn]Hitchens has a long history of painting religion (and the avowedly religous) as the root of much, if not all, of the world's problems. I wouldn't go so far as to say people are attacking him. Willets, maybe, but he isn't folks.[/quote:3mwltntn] Thanks. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 21 2010 03:03 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

"GIVE ME BACK MY DAUGHTER!" "GIVE ME BACK MY SON!"

Nymr83 Jul 21 2010 08:35 PM Re: Speaking of Mel Gibson...

[quote="TransMonk"]Outside Mad Max 1 & 2 and Lethal Weapon 1 & 2, I don't really appreciate much about Mel's career. I guess I didn't mind Payback either. I never really saw him as anything more than a second-tier action hero.

I liked "The Patriot" but it had nothing to do with Gibson, the role could have been taken over by someone else and the movie would have been as good or better.