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Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 31 2010 09:12 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 01 2010 04:07 PM

If not for yourselves, do it for [crossout]Hawkman[/crossout] [crossout]Prudent Omar[/crossout] [crossout]poor Mr. 599[/crossout] [crossout]poor Brad Lidge[/crossout] [crossout]the forgotten '86ers[/crossout] [crossout]Lenny Dykstra's investors[/crossout] [crossout]Lenny Dykstra's mom[/crossout] [crossout]the 15,000 people who aren't getting giveaway hats[/crossout] Frank again, 'cause it worked last time.

Fman99 Aug 01 2010 06:29 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 01 2010 06:54 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

The Second Spitter Aug 01 2010 06:57 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

What ever happened to Steve Olexovitch?

Rockin' Doc Aug 01 2010 07:30 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="The Second Spitter"]What ever happened to Steve Olexovitch?

Well, he apparently went on to become the 1988 Club Champion at Tashua Knolls Golf Club.
[url]http://mensclub.tashuaknolls.com/PastChamps.html

Ceetar Aug 01 2010 07:46 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

It's a Pepsi Porch afternoon.

G-Fafif Aug 01 2010 08:15 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Reyes SS Feliciano LF Pagan CF Wright 3B Davis 1B Francoeur RF Thole C Cora 2B Niese P Win one for the Hall of Fame Four!

Ashie62 Aug 01 2010 08:48 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

LETS!

Zvon Aug 01 2010 11:13 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Zvon Aug 01 2010 11:14 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I didn't think this Hall Of Met Fame stuff would be allAdat but I have to say Cashen brought a tear to my eye, and this is pretty damn awsum.

bmfc1 Aug 01 2010 11:28 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Agreed Zvon. Nice to see so many other Mets on the stage w/the honorees. Darryl hit the tying HR in Game 5 of the NLCS against Houston--off Nolan Ryan--and it's the only playoff game I've attended (thus far, please!). I was sitting in the Mezzanine Box, 1B side, and the ball passed in front of us like a bolt of lightning.

Zvon Aug 01 2010 11:36 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="bmfc1"]Agreed Zvon. Nice to see so many other Mets on the stage w/the honorees. Darryl hit the tying HR in Game 5 of the NLCS against Houston--off Nolan Ryan--and it's the only playoff game I've attended (thus far, please!). I was sitting in the Mezzanine Box, 1B side, and the ball passed in front of us like a bolt of lightning.

bmfc1 Aug 01 2010 11:46 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Thanks Zvon. Why aren't the Mets wearing their '86 throwback jerseys or at least the pinstripes? "Coors: the ban-quit beer."

Zvon Aug 01 2010 11:53 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="bmfc1":3b1w16if]Thanks Zvon. Why aren't the Mets wearing their '86 throwback jerseys or at least the pinstripes? "Coors: the ban-quit beer."[/quote:3b1w16if] The throwbacks would be a brilliant idea for this day. Why aren't you in a position to make this happen? ;)

bmfc1 Aug 01 2010 11:57 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Awww, thanks. (But according to some, I'm "heartless.")

Zvon Aug 01 2010 11:59 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Aww Thole. YAY THOLE!

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:00 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="bmfc1":2xuukcy2]Awww, thanks. (But according to some, I'm "heartless.")[/quote:2xuukcy2] You ain't heartless until Yogi somehow says so.

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 12:02 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

One-pitch out for Jeff Francoeur. Man, o, man.

bmfc1 Aug 01 2010 12:03 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I'm torn about Thole. It looks like he can hit for average, calls a good game and has a good arm, but the experts tell us that his ceiling is as a back-up. I wish he had more pop but maybe that will develop.

bmfc1 Aug 01 2010 12:08 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

The commercial for the Billy Joel movie screams "The Biggest Outdoor Movie Premier Since 1919." First, who's keeping that stat? The MPAA? Second, is there someone out there watching who says "I didn't plan on going but dammit this is history!"

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:10 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 01 2010 12:12 PM

[quote="bmfc1":2zk63cfh]I'm torn about Thole. It looks like he can hit for average, calls a good game and has a good arm, but the experts tell us that his ceiling is as a back-up. I wish he had more pop but maybe that will develop.[/quote:2zk63cfh] Well, not chokin up like he does, and I have no problem with a punchy lil hitter with rare and random pop. Wasn't Pete Rose one of those. He grew into having some good clutch pop. Quick Quiz:Between yesterday and today how many times have I said pop? No peeking allowed ;) I don't listen to experts. I just observe and allow things to happen. I hope the experts do the same.

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 12:11 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I don't think the experts are anything like unanimous on Thole's future backup status. I mean, if that's his ceiling, he's already hit it and cracked the plaster but good. I also didn't think it was very possible for an outfielder to catch a fly in foul territory at Citi.

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:14 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Edgy DC":371vqk96] I also didn't think it was very possible for an outfielder to catch a fly in foul territory at Citi.[/quote:371vqk96] That was a sweet catch. Could be big. Oh my, lol, Niese swings for the heavens.

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 12:14 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I don't know where you find these things in the record book, but Maine is now 110 innings into his season, and nobody has stolen a base against him.

bmfc1 Aug 01 2010 12:15 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Good points on Thole. So far, so good and let the experts be damned. He can platoon next year with whomever Omar signs in February.

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 12:18 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I just inadvertantly tuned into the Mets' Spanish radiocast as Feliciano was coming up. Golpeó un triple anoche. Oh, yes, he did!

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:19 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Mex brought up something during that close play on Reyes at first that I don't think ever occurred to me in just that way. How the dimensions of the field, in that case the ground ball up the middle vs. the 90 feet to first, are fascinatingly perfect.

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 12:19 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Davey Johnson in the booth. Holy crap!

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:23 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Awww, I really thought today was gonna be the day. Okay, tomorrow. (if I keep pluggin I will eventually predict the Met no-no) Johnson singles up the middle. Upton singles to center. One out. HAWK POWER ON!

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:24 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Hawk power off.

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 12:25 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

What did you keep hammerin' Frank to get for you? A reliever or a bench player or what? Well, I thought he did it in 1985 when he got Knight and Teufel. Um, he got Knight in late '84. He got Johnson in 1985. And what about Carter? Now get out of the booth. You're jinxing us.

bmfc1 Aug 01 2010 12:27 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Davey is a consultant for the Nationals. Why couldn't the Mets hire him? I'm sure his knowledge would be an asset, especially with his connections to USA Baseball.

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:27 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I think Niese has been distracted by this amazin interview with Mr Johnson.

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 12:29 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

This inning sucks. Either suit Johnson up or get him out of there.

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:30 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I found that most enjoyable. I'm gonna have to re-watch that after we come back and win this one.

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:33 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 01 2010 12:34 PM

[quote="Edgy DC":1g7o29jz]This inning sucks. Either suit Johnson up or get him out of there.[/quote:1g7o29jz] It certainly didn't go down well. Five straight hits and it's 0-3 Gemstoneballsacs. Great play by Niese to stop his bleeding.

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 12:34 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="bmfc1":32opyyec]Davey is a consultant for the Nationals. Why couldn't the Mets hire him? I'm sure his knowledge would be an asset, especially with his connections to USA Baseball.[/quote:32opyyec] The problem with hiring Johnson is that it would be suffocating to Manuel to have him in the wings. When the Angels hire Whitey Herzog as a consultant, their manager thinks, "What a great asset!" When the Cardinals hire Whitey Herzog as a consultant, their manager thinks, "Oh shit!" OE: Not that I don't want him. Sometimes I worry the game has passed him by. Othertimes I think, "Not in a good way."

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:38 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

We answer back. 1-3 Slitheringpoopoos

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 12:47 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Who else is watching Gooden to try and suss out what condition he's in?

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 12:48 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

LaRoche?

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:50 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I go afk and when I return its 1-6 Snakesonaplane! Whats goin on here?

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:51 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Edgy DC":2yxo5jj4]Who else is watching Gooden to try and suss out what condition he's in?[/quote:2yxo5jj4] I missed all of this. Should I put it on my rewatch list?

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:53 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I have not had a drink and yet I'm seeing double. Two 3 run homers by LaBug? Shista!

Zvon Aug 01 2010 12:58 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

This booth stuff might be jinxing but it is pretty kool to hear much of what is being said.

Zvon Aug 01 2010 01:10 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Aug 1st: I really, really, really hate snakes. Very crunchy if you grill em just right though.

Zvon Aug 01 2010 01:14 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Okay, all the HoF interviews are over. Jinx over. Comeback time begins soon. Stay tuned. Last night Phils get licked by a Nat walk off. Today Howard goes down with a gamey ankle. Something is going our way. great play by Reyes. WTF!? If this wasn't Citi LaRoche has 3 dingers. here its a double.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 01 2010 01:20 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Edgy DC":nstrsr0n]OE: Not that I don't want him. Sometimes I worry the game has passed him by. Othertimes I think, "Not in a good way."[/quote:nstrsr0n] I wonder about that too. I'd certainly welcome a restoration of Davey Johnson, though. I'd be just as happy to see him come back as I would Bobby Valentine.

Zvon Aug 01 2010 01:27 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Drew goes upper deckish. This is pretty damn pathetic. 1-9 ophidianbombers

Zvon Aug 01 2010 01:37 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

This is Outta control Kelly! That's why I follow that other team Rege. Well, that and I'm a ditzy ho. I would never call you ditzy Kell. Hows the kids?

Ashie62 Aug 01 2010 01:41 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Fire Manuel today.

Zvon Aug 01 2010 02:08 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

jeese. Release Ollie today. I can mop up this mess.

Zvon Aug 01 2010 02:33 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

If this was a bar I'd be wondering where all the patrons went. Was there a bomb scare or something? But this is a Met message board and they just let the Reptilianrears™ tear em a new one. Woe is us.

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 02:34 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I do appreciate that he got through this nightmare with only three pitchers and wish he was more willing to let pitchers throw multiple innings when they're doing well.

Frayed Knot Aug 01 2010 02:54 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I'd be more inclined to just chalk this game up to one of those 'Suck Days' you have every once in a while -- y'know, if you're going to not hit, not field, and not pitch, you might as well not do them all at the same time -- if it weren't the 5th loss in 6 games against one of the bottom-feeders.

G-Fafif Aug 01 2010 04:49 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Niese handles the Cards easy and the Mets have no problem with Adam Wainwright. Five days later, Niese can't do a thing (after three innings) with the D'Backs and Daniel Hudson cruises. Weird game, this baseball. They should really put a warning label on it.

Ceetar Aug 01 2010 05:19 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Edgy DC"]I do appreciate that he got through this nightmare with only three pitchers and wish he was more willing to let pitchers throw multiple innings when they're doing well.

I was thinking this, however, Dessens is a guy that's been useful, and now he's completely shot for at least tomorrow. I know when they brought him in theoretically they weren't done, but it was probably Ollie time long before they decided to keep him in way too long. Plus they warmed Valdes up, which despite Manuel's thinking, does actually count towards fatigue.

Couple that with playing with a short pen on the road.. (5 guy pen really, Ollie doesn't count and you can't use Frankie unless it's a save situation)

I want to know what helpful thing Warthen said to Niese before the second home run.

Ashie62 Aug 01 2010 05:46 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

This team sucks. Sell the team to someone who can handle it. Hire a GM who can form it, and Bobby V to manage it. Four years of horseshit it in a row is enough.

metirish Aug 01 2010 06:19 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

I was there today , got a call this morning asking if I wanted tickets, the pre-game ceremony was nice. I thought it might be louder but it's hard to tell when you are there , especially at Citi Field. It was really great to hear from Cashen and Johnson , need to see those two around the place more. I have expected Gooden to talk about recent events , then I remembered he's not a politician and owes me nothing. He got a good laugh when introducing his family he reminded everyone that " I've got a lot of kids, this might take some time". Strawberry was the only one to thank the WIlpon's by name , probably gave the best overall speech , he looks and sounds great. I thought he might end his speech with a plug for his new restaurant but he's got class. The game started great and I thought we were in for a good day , then the arse fell out of it and that was that , the friend I brought with me is a MFY fan and he was sooooo impressed with Citi Field , with the Mets down 8-1 I took him around the whole place, at one point he remarked to me that he liked it a lot more than the new MFY stadium, says he wants to take his young girls there . The Mets HOF & Museum was worth the price on it's own , like an eegit I posed with the 1969 WS trophy, bought the kid a Mets cap and after getting home turned right around and brought the mother in-law to JFK.....and the traffic was a nightmare coming back in to the Bronx both times. Stopped at the way over-rated Five Guys Burger joint on the way home.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 01 2010 06:28 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="metirish":swdhyg44]I after getting home turned right around and brought the mother in-law to JFK.....and the traffic was a nightmare coming back in to the Bronx both times. [/quote:swdhyg44] We encountered the same shiite coming back from Jones Beach today.

themetfairy Aug 01 2010 06:34 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

My favorite moment from the ceremony - Gooden and Strawberry - I also found this moment between Carter and Davey to be touching - The line of the day was Gooden's - "It's great to be home again."

The Second Spitter Aug 01 2010 06:36 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Zvon":9w3ak97b]jeese. Release Ollie today. I can mop up this mess.[/quote:9w3ak97b] The most expensive mop-up man in MLB.

Edgy DC Aug 01 2010 06:37 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Ceetar"][quote="Edgy DC"]I do appreciate that he got through this nightmare with only three pitchers and wish he was more willing to let pitchers throw multiple innings when they're doing well.

I was thinking this, however, Dessens is a guy that's been useful, and now he's completely shot for at least tomorrow. I know when they brought him in theoretically they weren't done, but it was probably Ollie time long before they decided to keep him in way too long. Plus they warmed Valdes up, which despite Manuel's thinking, does actually count towards fatigue.

Couple that with playing with a short pen on the road.. (5 guy pen really, Ollie doesn't count and you can't use Frankie unless it's a save situation)

I want to know what helpful thing Warthen said to Niese before the second home run.
Wait. Dessens is shot for the season?

I mean, yeah, somebody is always shot for tomorrow. So what? My point is that not everybody is.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 01 2010 07:02 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Ceetar"][quote="Edgy DC"]I do appreciate that he got through this nightmare with only three pitchers and wish he was more willing to let pitchers throw multiple innings when they're doing well.

I was thinking this, however, Dessens is a guy that's been useful, and now he's completely shot for at least tomorrow. I know when they brought him in theoretically they weren't done, but it was probably Ollie time long before they decided to keep him in way too long. Plus they warmed Valdes up, which despite Manuel's thinking, does actually count towards fatigue.

Couple that with playing with a short pen on the road.. (5 guy pen really, Ollie doesn't count and you can't use Frankie unless it's a save situation)

I want to know what helpful thing Warthen said to Niese before the second home run.

Would you like to fire Jerry because today, he didn't use K-Rod? Or would you like to fire Jerry because today, Jerry pitched like shit and gave up two touchdowns? Or should Jerry get fired because he was supposed to know that Elmer was gonna give up so many runs, that with hindsight, the smart thing would've been to let Ollie start the game and be done with it already?

Why don't you write Jerry a letter on behalf of the forum to explain to him how warming up a relief pitcher contributes to their fatigue. He probably has no idea. Only we do.

The Second Spitter Aug 01 2010 07:05 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":19kgdj5n]Would you like to fire Jerry because today, he didn't use K-Rod? Or would you like to fire Jerry because today, Jerry pitched like shit and gave up two touchdowns? Or should Jerry get fired because he was supposed to know that Elmer was gonna give up so many runs, that with hindsight, the smart thing would've been to let Ollie start the game and be done with it already?[/quote:19kgdj5n] PotW

Gwreck Aug 01 2010 07:37 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Pre-game ceremony was really nice, as expected. I thought the Mets did a nice job coordinating it and putting some thought into it. The game was atrocious and came dangerously close to putting me in that "ok, I'm done for the year" thread we have going elsewhere on the board. I saw Valdes warming up in the 9th inning and about blew a gasket. Once you've given up on the game (and we had when we pulled David and Jose), that's fine, but you then use your starter-cum-mopup man for the rest of the game, no matter what happens (save injury or a 150-pitch count).

themetfairy Aug 01 2010 07:47 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Gwreck"] Once you've given up on the game (and we had when we pulled David and Jose), that's fine, but you then use your starter-cum-mopup man for the rest of the game, no matter what happens (save injury or a 150-pitch count).

In this case, I'd drop the "save injury" exception....

metirish Aug 01 2010 07:49 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Hard for me to feel anything other than bile when I see Perez coming in and walking guys, giving up runs and so on.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 01 2010 08:59 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

What Irish and GW said about the ceremony. Nice moments abounded, with Cashen being unexpectedly touching. Artie-- who had her immunizations Friday afternoon, and has been pissy/slightly nauseated since-- was great pregame, then a handful once the fourth hit (in an almost fantastic moment of symmetry, she projectile crapped herself-- and Pops, and Pops' Keith jersey, stupidly worn-- just as Jon Niese did the same in the 4th). Then there was a little vomit just before the second LaRoche job-- I'm telling you, she's a body-fluid oracle-- and a lot of doing laps around the stadium as things went spiraling down into the cesspool. [Sorry about no fly-by, TMF, et. al.] The Ollie booing started the moment he trotted out to the field, as we were finally leaving. If he doesn't go, I have a feeling someone, somewhere is getting shot-- whether Ollie or someone around him.

Ashie62 Aug 01 2010 09:18 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

huh?

Zvon Aug 01 2010 10:42 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="G-Fafif":4ls9653w]Niese handles the Cards easy and the Mets have no problem with Adam Wainwright. Five days later, Niese can't do a thing (after three innings) with the D'Backs and Daniel Hudson cruises. [/quote:4ls9653w] Does anyone else see a pattern here? I mean generally speaking, not in terms of Niese. Like how we are up for tuff teams but not so for teams we should pushover. I say this in regards to Met teams for quite some time now. Somebody prove me wrong with the numbers so I can go back to having sweet dreams when I sleep.

Edgy DC Aug 02 2010 06:59 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

it's true of most everybody though. In a game where (1) the best teams win 60% of the time and the worst 40%, and (2) it's a 162-game season with peaks and valleys, there are going to be days when the poorer teams are clicking on all cylanders and the better teams can't do anything right. But if they're so capable of getting up for the big series, I wish they pulled that off at home against Atlanta in the last series before the sweep.

Ceetar Aug 02 2010 07:12 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Edgy DC":faej3zrj]it's true of most everybody though. In a game where (1) the best teams win 60% of the time and the worst 40%, and (2) it's a 162-game season with peaks and valleys, there are going to be days when the poorer teams are clicking on all cylanders and the better teams can't do anything right. But if they're so capable of getting up for the big series, I wish they pulled that off at home against Atlanta in the last series before the sweep.[/quote:faej3zrj] Water under the bridge. If they're capable of getting up for a big series, someone should point out to them that this upcoming 55 (or whatever the numbers are) series is very very important. as is the specific 6 game swing road trip that they should get up for and sweep please. I don't feel like debating Jerry or Ollie or whatever today. Just gonna say that just because an overall loss is not his fault, doesn't mean I don't see problems with what he did in a game that seem to represent an overall hole in his game that makes me think he should be fired. For instance, resting Castillo likely made no difference, but I'm not sure the overall philosophy of getting Cora time is good for the short or long term Mets and I haven't seen any raeson Castillo can't play day games after night games, etc.

Edgy DC Aug 02 2010 07:19 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Sounds like you feel like debating.

seawolf17 Aug 02 2010 07:34 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Edgy DC":32ai5bda]it's true of most everybody though. In a game where (1) the best teams win 60% of the time and the worst 40%, and (2) it's a 162-game season with peaks and valleys, there are going to be days when the poorer teams are clicking on all cylanders and the better teams can't do anything right.[/quote:32ai5bda] Yes, but the Mets haven't beaten a rookie pitcher since 1972. Even my dog could have told you the Mets weren't scoring yesterday, and he's in last place in our fantasy league. It's the scouting department that needs to be fired, apparently. "Wait! You mean Randy Johnson's not a Diamondback any more?"

Ceetar Aug 02 2010 07:49 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Edgy DC":2cga4bk9]Sounds like you feel like debating.[/quote:2cga4bk9] The alternative was going through my email and projects for last week and posting my time. How about this? Fire Jerry.

Edgy DC Aug 02 2010 07:55 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Yeah, work is always the lesser alternative. Nobody knows that like I know that.

seawolf17 Aug 02 2010 07:55 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Ceetar":2mkouga3][quote="Edgy DC":2mkouga3]Sounds like you feel like debating.[/quote:2mkouga3] How about this? Fire Jerry.[/quote:2mkouga3] End of debate. Well, that wasn't any fun.

metirish Aug 02 2010 11:31 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Who was the third base coach for the D-Backs , when Keith was walking off the field he gave him a warm greeting and several other Mets types stopped to talk with him.....wearing #7 I think

TransMonk Aug 02 2010 11:43 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Joel Youngblood

Edgy DC Aug 02 2010 11:44 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

Torre-era ex-Met Joel Youngblood, non-star of my youth. He made an All-Star team once by hitting .350 for the first six weeks of the season and then getting hurt. (Nice!) He played all over the field, nowhere particuarly successfully, but he had a hell of an arm in right. He's one of those all-of-the-tools-but never-got-it-together types. He never played with Keith, but he spent a long career in the NL around the same time, becoming a big-time bench player in the second half of his career. He's the first (and I guess only) guy to start a game for one team, get traded, fly to another city, and play for another team that same day.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 02 2010 11:45 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

The full part of that Youngblood trivia is that he was the first (and probably still the only) player ever to get a base hit for two different teams in two different cities on the same day.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 02 2010 11:56 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Benjamin Grimm":3fz9jxrs]The full part of that Youngblood trivia is that he was the first (and probably still the only) player ever to get a base hit for two different teams in two different cities on the same day.[/quote:3fz9jxrs] The really full part of that trivia question is that Youngblood's two hits came against future Hall of Famers: Fergie Jenkins (Mets v Cubs) Steve Carlton (Expos v Phillies)

Edgy DC Aug 02 2010 11:59 AM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

When Ed Ott bodyslammed Felix Millan in 1978, the secondbase job initially fell to Youngblood. By 1978, he opened splitting time with Bobby Valentine, but both had crap range, and Doug Flynn would move over from short to cover for them for late-inning defense, and soon took the job over completely. That's his story. A good hitter for an infielder, but merely passable as an outfielder, folks kept trying to sneak him into the lineup in the infield and getting burned for it.

seawolf17 Aug 02 2010 12:00 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="Edgy DC":1662hl1i]This inning sucks. Either suit Johnson up or get him out of there.[/quote:1662hl1i] Damn, that would have been awesome. "There's some kind of commotion in the Mets dugout... and it looks like... yes, it looks like Jerry Manuel is being led down the tunnel, kicking and screaming! And that's... that's Davey Johnson in uniform! And Dwight Gooden is throwing up in the bullpen!"

Willets Point Aug 02 2010 12:02 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="seawolf17":2fhokkaw] And Dwight Gooden is throwing up in the bullpen!"[/quote:2fhokkaw] Did Doc eat at one of the concession stands that didn't pass the health test?

metirish Aug 02 2010 12:19 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 02 2010 01:46 PM

One thing about Doc , and i have noticed this before, he wears the most ill fitting suits.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 02 2010 12:28 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 02 2010 01:39 PM

[quote="metirish"]One tining about Doc , and i have noticed this before, he wears the most ill fitting suits.

The core of the problem is that he keeps shopping at Mid-1990's NBA Draftee Warehouse.







It's not a better deal just because you get more fabric, my dear Doctor Strikeout.

seawolf17 Aug 02 2010 01:04 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

http://www.hulu.com/watch/19187/saturda ... rk-soakers

bmfc1 Aug 02 2010 01:10 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 02 2010 01:39 PM

oops

Zvon Aug 02 2010 01:13 PM Re: Win a Corksoaking Series, Fer Frank's Sake: IGT 8/1/10

[quote="metirish"]One tining about Doc , and i have noticed this before, he wears the most ill fitting suits.

Come-oooooonnnn.
Doc looked great.
Wha?