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IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 01:17 PM

Jon Niese has one career start against the Phils and they barely touched him. That was back in the Days of Throb.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 06 2010 01:31 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Theoretically, then, he should be able to kick the living shit out of them, do parking-lot donuts with their fancy cars, and make love to their WAGs before they make it out of the postgame clubhouse. Of course, that's why they play the stupid games.

TransMonk Aug 06 2010 01:43 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

seawolf17 Aug 06 2010 02:00 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Willets Point Aug 06 2010 02:16 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Twitta sez: Reyes-SS, Pagan-LF, Beltran-CF, Wright-3B, Davis-1B, Thole-C, Francoeur-RF, Castillo-2B, Niese-LHP

Ashie62 Aug 06 2010 02:33 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Lineup looks familiar. I barely even notice Bay missing.

Zvon Aug 06 2010 02:50 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

[quote="Ashie62":17df992p]Lineup looks familiar. I barely even notice Bay missing.[/quote:17df992p] That whole Bay thing still has me shaking my head. Not violently tho. I mean, we all saw the snap back he suffered with our own eyes when it happened. It was violent and everything in his head had to be somewhat rattled as a result. I'm no doctor but I would have proceeded, after seeing the footage, as if something should be wrong there. As far as letting him play, sure, he showed no symptoms. But there was an off day there for the flight back, and why, esp with our experiences with this kind of thing, didn't they have him travel by ground as a simple precaution?

DocTee Aug 06 2010 02:54 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

I think Frenchy must have pics of Manuel in compromising situations. Unreal.

Zvon Aug 06 2010 05:23 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Gah. Not only do I get blacked out from seeing this game on MLB.TV (first time this year, shouldn't this be a consistent thing? I have been blocked from the Comcast feed all other games but not SNY. Tonight, both), I have to sit through this Philly Wall Of Fame pukeworthy bullshit (I can view this on reg ol fashioned TV).

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 05:53 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Niese's control is eluding him in the first. We need some f&@# you attitude.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 05:54 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Strikes out Ruiz. Nice. I'll take it.

Zvon Aug 06 2010 05:56 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

[quote="Edgy DC"]Niese's control is eluding him in the first. We need some f&@# you attitude.

Agreed #1!

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 06:07 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Rollins on base against Niese is sort of an irresistable force/immoveable object sort of thing. Nope. Big catch by Pagan.

seawolf17 Aug 06 2010 06:07 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Pagan looking like Todd Hundley out there.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 06:09 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

WFAN is offering me a Yankees Edition Ford Fiesta.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 06:13 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Yes, we just bunted Francoeur into scoring position for Niese.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 06:17 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

And Jerry, touched by the hand of God, gets the run.

Zvon Aug 06 2010 06:31 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

[quote="Edgy DC":6b2h5q3r]Yes, we just bunted Francoeur into scoring position for Niese.[/quote:6b2h5q3r] Isn't this like proof of retardation? I understand how Jerry wants to make this team into small ball gangsta beeatches, but isn't this a bit much? It worked out for one run, sure, but Castillo has been making solid contact lately and there were no out. Are there not more preferable options there?

Ashie62 Aug 06 2010 06:33 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

T-H-O-L-E

Ashie62 Aug 06 2010 06:34 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

And Francouer fails with RISP.

Zvon Aug 06 2010 06:50 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 06 2010 07:07 PM

Philheads said Castillo was bunting for a hit when he moved up Frency. It sure didn't look like it to me. Someone should tap Louie on the shoulder and remind him that he's hitting 8th tonight. K, I don't know why I'm venting like this when we are playin a good game here. 6 hits for 2 runs. Hawkman, the human deflector, settle'n in.

Ashie62 Aug 06 2010 07:01 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

STFU Werth

Zvon Aug 06 2010 07:26 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Come on! More runs ya bums!

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 07:38 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Again, Howie and Wayne are saying it's about un-reliable eighth-inning guys. It's not.

themetfairy Aug 06 2010 07:38 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Jonathon giveth....Bobby taketh away....

Fman99 Aug 06 2010 07:41 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Lame.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 07:44 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Triple play time.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 06 2010 07:45 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

This one's on Jerry. Jon was over 100 pitches, but not THAT far over 100 pitches. To hell with the "designated eighth inning guy."

Ashie62 Aug 06 2010 07:46 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

No reason to take Niese out FU Jerry.

Zvon Aug 06 2010 07:48 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Everything inside, anywhere inside, has been a strike all fuckin night. But not this time. Pedro walks in a run. oy.

Ashie62 Aug 06 2010 07:50 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

I hat this fucking team..FIRE FUCKING MANUEL DAMMIT!

Zvon Aug 06 2010 07:50 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

[quote="Ashie62":15vx0dn4]No reason to take Niese out FU Jerry.[/quote:15vx0dn4] I have to agree #1. 111 pitches, he certainly could have at least started the 8th.

Frayed Knot Aug 06 2010 07:52 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

The pitching change was stupid but it didn't matter. There was no point in this entire game where I thought the Mets had even a remote shot at winning. The only ball I can recall a Met hitting remotely hard was Reyes lining out to CF and you're not going to win getting 4 singles, 1 walk, and barely getting the ball out of the infield otherwise and all against a pitcher with a 6.00 ERA

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 06 2010 07:53 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

it's not Jerry, it's an obvious lack of 'F#%& You' attitude.

Ashie62 Aug 06 2010 07:56 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

I think of Wilpon bringing everybody back and get sick.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 07:57 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

I'm going to go ahead and say the pitching change mattered.

Zvon Aug 06 2010 07:59 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

[quote="metsguyinmichigan":234t0fs6]This one's on Jerry. Jon was over 100 pitches, but not THAT far over 100 pitches. To hell with the "designated eighth inning guy."[/quote:234t0fs6] Wouldn't this be Warthen's call? Wouldn't he be the one to say that Niese has gone as far as he could? I'm not defending Jerry here, I know the final decision is his, I'm just wondering.

Zvon Aug 06 2010 08:02 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

[quote="Frayed Knot":im12invu]The pitching change was stupid but it didn't matter. There was no point in this entire game where I thought the Mets had even a remote shot at winning. The only ball I can recall a Met hitting remotely hard was Reyes lining out to CF and you're not going to win getting 4 singles, 1 walk, and barely getting the ball out of the infield otherwise and all against a pitcher with a 6.00 ERA[/quote:im12invu] This is very true (hitting wise)but I really felt confident from when Hawk Kd the side in the 4th to when he was removed. Then I felt doubtful.

Ashie62 Aug 06 2010 08:06 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Send Jack Ruby into Jerry Manuel's press conference.

HahnSolo Aug 06 2010 08:06 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Niese labored through the first 2 1/3 then cruised through the 7th. Once again Jerry goes against the hot hand by looking at that godd%&&$m pitch count. You are allowed to go against the book once in a while, Jerry. Let us not forget though, and Gary and Keith sure reminded us enough, that Blanton has been just about the worst starter in the NL. We did nothing against him. Oh, and now we decide to put a couple of guys on base.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 08:08 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Ruby's dead. This isn't the time for Carter. Cripes, they're just going to go to a lefty. Let Castillo try to set it up.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 06 2010 08:09 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Well, y'know, any time you can pull a guy who's set at "mowdown" on his internal cruise control, having set down 13 of 15, having not allowed a hit in 4+ innings, and having thrown 40 pitches in the last 5 innings, you've GOT to make that move.

Zvon Aug 06 2010 08:10 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Hessman And as a result, Lidge.

Fman99 Aug 06 2010 08:11 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

KABOOM

Ashie62 Aug 06 2010 08:11 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

[quote="Edgy DC":1isa8bq2]Ruby's dead. This isn't the time for Carter. Cripes, they're just going to go to a lefty. Let Castillo try to set it up.[/quote:1isa8bq2] You now i'm kidding and frustrated

Zvon Aug 06 2010 08:14 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

[quote="Edgy DC"]Ruby's dead. This isn't the time for Carter. Cripes, they're just going to go to a lefty. Let Castillo try to set it up.

Aug 6th:I'm just a pawn in Jerrys
bad chess game.

bmfc1 Aug 06 2010 08:15 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

I went to see Derek Jeter get shot tonight in "The Other Guys" (I almost applauded) so I missed most of this mess. Regardless of whether the decision to pull Niese was right, all Parnell and P. Feliciano have to do is get three outs. Parnell got 21 one of them. The offense didn't do enough against Blanton and Jerry may have made another lousy decision but Parnell and Feliciano are the goats tonight.

Fman99 Aug 06 2010 08:16 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Ugh

Zvon Aug 06 2010 08:17 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Can't wait to hear how Manuel explains himself in the post interview.

themetfairy Aug 06 2010 08:17 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Jesus forsook us.

metirish Aug 06 2010 08:20 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Parnell throwing 97 mph right down the fucking middle pitch after pitch hurt a bit I'd say.

Zvon Aug 06 2010 08:21 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

[quote="themetfairy":2phxxvqh]Jesus forsook us.[/quote:2phxxvqh] lol. ty TMF. Needed a chuckle.

HahnSolo Aug 06 2010 08:22 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

My son just asked me if I hated the Mets. I told him no but that sometimes they make me really really mad.

themetfairy Aug 06 2010 08:23 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

[quote="Zvon":3608p9vh][quote="themetfairy":3608p9vh]Jesus forsook us.[/quote:3608p9vh] lol. ty TMF. Needed a chuckle.[/quote:3608p9vh] Thanks Zvon :)

Frayed Knot Aug 06 2010 08:25 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Charlie might actually have been the Manual with the dumbest pitching moves of the night. His just didn't turn out to be as costly. I mean you've got a 5-run lead and your reliever gives up two dinky hits w/one out to go and you feel the need to get your lefty in because you don't think your righty can handle Chris Freakin' Carter even though the tying run isn't even on deck yet?!? Now, just in case I'm not miserable enough, I now turn back to watching Papelbon try to blow his game. God this dope is a chore to watch. One pitch every 30 seconds - and he's only that fast if no one is on base.

Zvon Aug 06 2010 08:36 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Ricky Bottalico (Phils post game show idiot): Why'd the Mets pull Niese? They had to, he was up over 110 pitches. The Mets are like a falling rock. You drop a rock into water, where does it go? Right to the bottom.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 08:41 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Player Neg Pts. Scaled to 10 Parnell -8.51 -3.66 PFeliciano -5.67 -2.44 Beltran -4.25 -1.83 Castillo -2.31 -0.99 JFeliciano -1.15 -0.49 Acosta -0.65 -0.28 Wright -0.38 -0.16 Thole -0.33 -0.14

HahnSolo Aug 06 2010 08:54 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

One thing that caught my eye during the meltdown was that two balls were hit to center on which runners took the extra base. One was the Werth hit that Sweeney went to 3rd on, and the other was the hit that Werth scored on. Not sure if Pagan holds those runners, or if it would have made any difference in the outcome of the game, but maybe it's time to take a closer look at moving Carlos to one of the corners.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 08:56 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Yeah, he wasn't showing much coverage in the gaps tonight. (Of course, a potential game-saving play was made by Pagan in right, for what it's worth.) Your comments could have also gone in my "Deference" thread.

Frayed Knot Aug 07 2010 06:25 AM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 07 2010 12:18 PM

The problem with that play where Sweeny took 3B was that the OF was deep, essentially in a 'no-doubles' defense. It was still a one-run lead at that point and the idea is to not let Werth get to 2B (of course the 17 straight hits that followed pretty much scuttled those plans but that's a whole 'nother set of problems). Point being, that the only way Pagan in CF makes that inning or even that play any different is if he's playing in an entirely different spot. Meanwhile, on the offensive front: 10 groundouts - including 1 GiDP and 3 come-backers to the pitcher 7 Ks 5 infield pop-outs so that's 23 outs that never left the IF The remaining 4 outs were in the OF, 2 of which I remember as being hit somewhat hard Of the 10 hits, 9 were singles, 2 of those were IF singles, several of the rest were either seeing-eye or bloops

Edgy DC Aug 07 2010 06:43 AM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

And I've been hitting this hard of late, but... no walks.

Willets Point Aug 07 2010 12:09 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

Hard to believe that the Mets were enough games above .500 at one point that they only now fall below .500.

Zvon Aug 07 2010 07:55 PM Re: IGT, 8/6, Mets@Phils

[quote="Zvon"]Ricky Bottalico (Phils post game show idiot): Why'd the Mets pull Niese? They had to, he was up over 110 pitches. The Mets are like a falling rock. You drop a rock into water, where does it go? Right to the bottom.

I'm a lil surprised no one said this yesterday, so I will now..

STFU BOTTALICO
and
SUCK MAH BALLS!