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Rodriguez gets his milestone HR
Frayed Knot Aug 03 2010 08:14 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 04 2010 10:46 AM |
Congrats to Pudge on his 300th HR last night.
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bmfc1 Aug 03 2010 08:14 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Snap! Well done!
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 03 2010 08:15 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Michael Kay is practically in tears calling these games, gotta love it.
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Frayed Knot Aug 03 2010 08:21 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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I thought Kay was going to bawl about a week ago when ARod didn't get his HR before the team went to Cleveland - mainly because Kay wasn't doing the Cleveland trip (a 4 gamer too) and he figured he'd miss it. But that was about 10 games ago now.
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metirish Aug 04 2010 04:49 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Yeah , well played , got me.....congrats to Pudge.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 04 2010 06:38 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
I was watching the Mets-Braves on MLB Network last night, and they'd cut away from the game whenever Alex Rodriguez came to bat. (And I'd then switch to the backup telecast, the standard definition broadcast from the Extra Innings package.)
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Ceetar Aug 04 2010 06:51 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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It's borderline. I don't really care about the home run, I wonder if fans in Seattle/Texas that might just be happening to watch whatever's on MLB would? But I really like the way MLB Network does all the around the league type stuff. I don't know if a cheater hitting a numerical milestone is worth it, but I like the way they bring you around. It sucks when they cut away from games imo, but if you think about it, you wouldn't have had that game if not for MLB Network anyway. Now the obessesive Yankee lovefest, run by Michael Kay.. *gag*
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metirish Aug 04 2010 07:17 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 04 2010 07:22 AM |
Not surprising that MLB would pop to the game , but I don't think there is a big buzz surrounding Rodriguez , not even sure if espn has Pedro Gomez following him around like a dog for all the insights that no one cares about.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 04 2010 07:18 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Gayrod also missed the team photo shoot for the MFYs yesterday.
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soupcan Aug 04 2010 07:24 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
This remind anybody of Gary Carter being stuck on 299 for what - like 3 months?
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Edgy DC Aug 04 2010 07:25 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
I just love the thought of a fake ceremony.
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metirish Aug 04 2010 07:33 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Dying over here....
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Frayed Knot Aug 04 2010 07:37 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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It's the MLB network and they're going to carry MLB news. I don't have a problem with it. As far a 'who cares', the steroids stink and better knowledge of stats has definitely diminished interest in 'counting records' over the years, but he'll still be just the 7th to that spot ever and it is a significant milestone.
Off the top of my head you've potentially seen every 500+ guy except for Ott, Mantle, Foxx & Williams, which would mean like 27 of the top 30 at this point or somewhere around there. Remember that when Kiner retired with his 360-something he was 6th on the all-time list.
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Gwreck Aug 04 2010 08:01 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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Ernie Banks and Eddie Mathews? (Doesn't count if you were too young to remember them!)
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 04 2010 08:05 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
I do remember Ernie Banks as an active player, but not Eddie Mathews.
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Frayed Knot Aug 04 2010 08:26 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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Pedro issued a statement that while he'd like to be on the Alex over America tour, for the foreseeable future he is hopelessly camped out on some guy's lawn in Hattiesburg, Mississippi.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 04 2010 10:44 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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Should this stretch a month or so, I would love to see a picture-a-day thing of Michael Kay looking slightly more disheveled with each click, set to "Everyday." That is my early Christmas wish. (Well, that and the Rod being stuck on 599 until season's end, then hitting a cheap, blown-umpire's-call-even-after-review 600th into right center field on the last weekend of the season, during a MFY loss. That way, we don't have to hear about it all winter as a "subplot" of the offseason, but there's still a little fuzziness around the thing. Was it your 600th? Yes, well, technically.)
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Frayed Knot Aug 04 2010 11:07 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Checking out the 500-club for the first time in a long while:
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TransMonk Aug 04 2010 11:11 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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Yes!
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 04 2010 11:13 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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Four? That surprises me. I guess you're more than a couple of years older than me. I just looked it up, and the fifth player to hit his 500th home run was Willie Mays, on 09/13/1965. (The first four were Ruth, Foxx, Ott, and Williams.) By the time that I first started paying attention, in 1971, the list was up to nine, with the additions of Mantle, Mathews, Aaron, and Banks. During the 1971 season, Frank Robinson and Harmon Killebrew hit their 500ths, but I have no memory of being aware of it.
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metsguyinmichigan Aug 04 2010 11:32 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Our long, national nightmare is over. The centaur has finally cleared the fence.
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Farmer Ted Aug 04 2010 11:42 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Juicing Douche, admittedly.
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Ashie62 Aug 04 2010 11:45 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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Another PED user gets to 600 Homeruns.
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Ashie62 Aug 04 2010 11:48 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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I miss Ott, Williams, Mathews, Foxx and Ruth.
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Vic Sage Aug 04 2010 12:22 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
my brother directed and edited a sports video about the 500 home run club in 1988, hosted by Bob Costas and Mickey Mantle.
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metsguyinmichigan Aug 04 2010 01:02 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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Hey, I have that! Sweet.
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metsguyinmichigan Aug 04 2010 02:07 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Ian O'Connor tweets: Derek Jeter's 4 for 4 is just a little this-is-still-my-house reminder to A-Rod on the day of No. 600 #yankees
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Frayed Knot Aug 04 2010 03:03 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
The statement issued by one of the Steinbrenner boys was almost as comical.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 04 2010 03:28 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
I'd almost be disturbed if they handled something like this with an ounce of humility; pompousness is the brand identity.
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metirish Aug 04 2010 03:37 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Just watched it on the MLB app , Kay gave it the usual "see ya" but noting too over the top. Al Leiter sounded like a slobbering fool talking about it...." oh gosh , I , I can't imagine how he feels , a great moment for him and his yankee team mates"....it looked like his team mates hugged him cos well that's the thing to do, Jeter was all over him though.
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G-Fafif Aug 04 2010 04:12 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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O'Connor jealously protects Jeter's turf by downgrading A-Rod's accomplishments.
I get the sense O'Connor would like to touch 'em all, too -- all that are on Jeter.
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Frayed Knot Aug 04 2010 09:11 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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I was a baseball nerd at a very young age. Not that I have a specific memory of Mays hitting his 500th, although I do remember when Denny McLain served up - and we do mean served up - #535 to Mantle so he'd pass Foxx. I also would have had trouble pegging the order of many of those guys, a thought which sent me into some research. So, in order of HR #500
Huge 15 year gap between Ott & Williams. Biggest one since was the nearly 10 years after Schmidt and before Murray. Been a year and a half since the last new inductee and looks like it'll be at least a 4 year gap until the next one.
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Vic Sage Aug 05 2010 09:38 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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The documentary goes through Schmidt in 1987. Eddie Murray made it obsolete in 1996. The last 10 guys in the club all played through the "steroid era" (arguably Murray did, too, though its unknowable at this point). Which, if any, do we think did it clean? who goes into the HOF, and who doesn't?
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MFS62 Aug 05 2010 09:41 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
I posted Jeter's comment about A-Rod's accomplishment in the "Quotes of 2010" thread.
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metirish Aug 05 2010 09:58 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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Oh right , it's all about team and not me......no matter how hard he tries he still comes across as a phony.
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Edgy DC Aug 05 2010 10:09 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Those are some amazing bonus clauses. Yesterday's homer was worth as much as Steve Austin!
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MFS62 Aug 05 2010 10:18 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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That's why he listened when he heard someone say "We can make you stronger". Later
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Frayed Knot Aug 05 2010 10:39 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
The thing about those O'Connor comments above is that, while he's right about what ARod and others have done as far as their reputation goes and about the big scarlet 'S' being brought up and dampening the celebration every time a milestone gets passed, he also continuing the bad reporting that helped the scandal to go on as long as it did. Years after missing a virtual epidemic in the sport he and many of his contemporary journos cover and being fooled for so long by players they simply assumed to be clean, they continue to treat certain players as their go-to exemplars of cleanliness based on nothing more than the absence of their names on some incomplete & old report combined with a vague likability factor.
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MFS62 Aug 05 2010 10:44 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Looking at that list above reminded me of a gamecast I heard about a week ago. IIRC it was the ESPN radio game of the week. The guys in the booth (couldn't recognize the voices) mentioned Braves sluggers in the past, going back to the 60's. They talked about it for about 5 minutes and nobody mentioned Eddie Matthews.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 05 2010 10:47 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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That's what gets me. And it's not just sloppy and naive to do that, it actually helps hacks like O'Connor to have some go-to heroes to bash the villains with. Pee in a cup for me, Jeets.
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DocTee Aug 05 2010 11:18 AM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
I was surprised to learn that the plurality of his HRs came as a MFY.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 05 2010 01:05 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Milestones-- as in career, not in-season-- might be exempt from the perf-based-incentives ban.
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Edgy DC Aug 05 2010 01:12 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
It's also a tapdancing around it sort of thing. It's not phrased around a number, but achieving a postion on the list. Sort of like an All Star appearance.
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Frayed Knot Aug 05 2010 02:05 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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Yeah. It was allowed because, rather than being looked at as some in-season target, he's being paid for career milestones and therefore they can tie it to all kinds of marketing & merchandising ploys. Of course what was really in it from the NYY point of view was their ability to 're-claim' the all-time HR record and have it back with a 'clean' player playing for the team where the record 'rightfully belongs'. Ooops! Not only is the clean part out the window but - with it taking (to the day) three years between #500 & #600 - it'll be at least five more seasons until he's in Aaron/Bonds territory which is hardly a given for someone recently turned 35 with hip problems and on pace for barely 25 in the current season. The days of him knocking off 150 in five seasons are behind him for good at this point.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 05 2010 02:08 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
I agree. It's FAR from a sure thing that Rodriguez has another 163 home runs in him. Especially since he's at the age when the breakdown can come at any time.
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metirish Aug 05 2010 02:11 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Bonds hit 272 from the age of 35 through 42....wow
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Frayed Knot Aug 05 2010 02:14 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Well, considering that he's the youngest ever to 600, at least two have hit 150 starting at an older age and at least three 114 or more.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 05 2010 02:20 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
He's on a pace to hit 25 home runs this year. Assuming he sticks to that pace for the next several years (which isn't a safe assumption, of course) he'll pass Bonds in about six and a half years, when he'll be about 42.
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metsguyinmichigan Aug 05 2010 03:06 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
Interesting that Klapisch and Buster Olney didn't send Alex much love today, symbolic of ARod's status as a non-True Yankee. If Jeter starts breaking down as he gets close to a hits milestone, I expect them to start demanding that anytime Jeets hits into a fielder's choice, it be counted as a hit "because he deserves it."
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Nymr83 Aug 05 2010 06:46 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
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How much of that gap can you attribute to the war though? Williams likely hits #500 in 1955, if not sooner, if he had never served. Maybe Greenberg finds his way to 500 around 1950, given 3.5 years back from the war and then extending his career a few years to reach the milestone. Ditto Dimaggio. Musial missed only one season to the war, and was 25 homers short of 500 (but hadn't really become a HR hitter yet by the season he missed, 1945)
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metsguyinmichigan Aug 05 2010 07:14 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
I always wonder if Mays might have passed 700 had he not missed two years.
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Edgy DC Aug 05 2010 08:43 PM Re: Rodriguez gets his milestone HR |
I don't wonder. I feel pretty certain he would have. The greater drama to me is whether he would have beaten Aaron to 714. It might've been a heckuva race.
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