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HahnSolo Aug 06 2010 08:56 PM

Sny reporting that FMart and Tejada were removed from the lineup at Buffalo minutes before game time. Minaya was asked about it and said something like "we'll see".

HahnSolo Aug 06 2010 09:00 PM Re: Healthy Scratches

Tracksuit: Infielder Ruben Tejada and outfielder Fernando Martinez were scratched from the Triple-A Buffalo Bisons lineup about five minutes prior to game time tonight. It is not immediately clear if either player is set for a callup to the Mets or is involved in any other transaction. Indications are that neither has suffered an injury, but nothing could be confirmed. Both players remained in the Bisons dugout through the early innings.

Edgy DC Aug 06 2010 09:14 PM Re: Healthy Scratches

This will keep me up.

OlerudOwned Aug 06 2010 11:54 PM Re: Healthy Scratches

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/ ... id=5444427 Two sources -- one with ties to the organization, one formerly with the organization -- indicated the Seattle Mariners are the team involved in dialogue with the Mets. One of the sources indicated that 21-year-old outfielder Fernando Martinez, who was one of the two players scratched from the Bisons' lineup, could be headed to Seattle if a deal materializes. Infielder Ruben Tejada also was scratched from the Triple-A game. However, the 20-year-old prospect could be a call-up to the Mets if a major league infielder is traded, and may not be involved in any trade. The Mets have repeatedly tried to trade second baseman Luis Castillo, who is in the third season of a four-year, $25 million deal. I mean, if they insist on us taking Felix Hernandez for Fartinez and Castillo, I guess we may as well let it happen. /delusions

Benjamin Grimm Aug 07 2010 05:02 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

I guess it could mean Martinez and Castillo are being dealt. I suppose it might also mean that Francoeur and Tejada are being dealt.

Frayed Knot Aug 07 2010 05:29 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Trying to figure out what Seattle has that we'd want while hoping it's not the bloated contract of Chone Figgins.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 07 2010 05:33 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

This is the most interesting part of my Mets week.

Edgy DC Aug 07 2010 06:20 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Frayed Knot wrote: Trying to figure out what Seattle has that we'd want while hoping it's not the bloated contract of Chone Figgins. Now, there's an unhappy thought.

Frayed Knot Aug 07 2010 06:32 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

And the reason I fear it is that it has 'PR move' written all over it. There were a ton of media folks this past winter tripping over themselves to say what a great FA signing this was for Seattle. Figgins is "scrappy", he steals bases, he's "a winner", he's a "good clubhouse guy", etc. Hell, he probably recycles too. He was one of the reasons why the Mariners were a sexy pre-season pick in a lot of quarters instead of ... hey looky here - they've got the 3rd worst record in the majors!! He turns 33 this winter an is signed thru 2013 at Castillo money x1.5 with - wait for it - [u:83nvh8bm]A Vesting Option[/u:83nvh8bm] for '14 based on nothing but PAs in that final year.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 07 2010 06:36 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

If that's the guy, and they're getting anything like Martinez, and O isn't an idiot (he isn't... really), then there's no way Seattle isn't eating a huge portion of the contract, is there? (See: every in-season deal this year.)

Edgy DC Aug 07 2010 06:41 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

It's really just hitting reset on the Castillo contract. Same age-ish Luis was then, more money, but you've got to adjust that. Same skillz and limitationz. Let's just not.

smg58 Aug 07 2010 07:11 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Wouldn't Martinez and Tejada have to clear waivers?

Mex17 Aug 07 2010 07:36 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Bringing in Figgins and keeping Tejada sets up a scenario where Reyes can be dealt. I am not advocating this personally but others have suggested that a move of that type of magnitude, in addition to making changes at manager and GM, is what is needed in order to shake up the culture around the team.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 07 2010 07:41 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Well, making the team older and less... well... good is a way of getting the "F*ck You" back, only it's not opposing clubs which they'd be insulting/to which they'd be condescending.

Mex17 Aug 07 2010 07:43 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Edgy DC wrote: It's really just hitting reset on the Castillo contract. Same age-ish Luis was then, more money, but you've got to adjust that. Same skillz and limitationz. Let's just not. And what was it that started the Knicks down the road to oblivion? You guessed it, not simply waiting one year and letting Ewing's contract expire but instead trading it for Glenn Rice's longer contract. Constantly churning aging mediocrity instead of gutting the thing and starting over from scratch is the biggest mistake that big market sports franchises make (and what prevents potential dynastys from forming). Small market teams (like the Rays for instance) do this but then can never afford to keep it once it starts getting good.

Edgy DC Aug 07 2010 08:10 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Mex17 wrote: Bringing in Figgins and keeping Tejada sets up a scenario where Reyes can be dealt. I am not advocating this personally but others have suggested that a move of that type of magnitude, in addition to making changes at manager and GM, is what is needed in order to shake up the culture around the team. Sheesh, anybody who advocates getting rid of the GM but first have him start dealing off All-Stars is somebody I'm lining up to get away from.

Mex17 Aug 07 2010 08:14 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Bringing in Figgins and keeping Tejada sets up a scenario where Reyes can be dealt. I am not advocating this personally but others have suggested that a move of that type of magnitude, in addition to making changes at manager and GM, is what is needed in order to shake up the culture around the team. Sheesh, anybody who advocates getting rid of the GM but first have him start dealing off All-Stars is somebody I'm lining up to get away from. Would you put it past Jeff Wilpon? I wouldn't. He and Daddy are probably thinking that they need to salvage attendance for August and September (re: making the splashy move for Figgins now) and then, after the season ends, they will "re-evaluate" the baseball operations.

Edgy DC Aug 07 2010 08:19 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Well, you're not saying it's some worst-case scenario of clear-cutting owner, but what some non-specific "others" are advocating for the team's best interest. I don't know who these folks are, but booooo! to them. What sort of Figgins-inspired attendance spike (really?) would it take to justify taking on the remainder of his contract?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 07 2010 08:24 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Cooler heads, gents and ladies. The Beat Writer From Whom I Wish I Heard More wrote: PHILADELPHIA — The minor leaguers Ruben Tejada and Fernando Martinez are about to be called up to the Mets, not traded. Some had speculated that they might be involved in a trade because they were scratched Friday from the lineup of their Class AAA Buffalo game, which is often a precursor to a trade. The Mets didn’t explain the reason Friday night because they had neither completed their plans nor told the other two players who will have to go to make room on the 25-man roster for Tejada and Martinez. It was not known which players are going to be sent down, or whether one would be released or traded, but an announcement should be coming later today.

Frayed Knot Aug 07 2010 08:32 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Mex17 wrote: Bringing in Figgins and keeping Tejada sets up a scenario where Reyes can be dealt. I am not advocating this personally but others have suggested that a move of that type of magnitude, in addition to making changes at manager and GM, is what is needed in order to shake up the culture around the team. Fuck "shaking up the culture". Moves should be made depending on whether they're judged to be an improvement for the team or not. Tossing aside players for some sort of hoped-for and vague chemistry/pr value is as bad an idea as taking on new ones for the same reasons.

metirish Aug 07 2010 08:41 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Cooler heads, gents and ladies. The Beat Writer From Whom I Wish I Heard More wrote: PHILADELPHIA — The minor leaguers Ruben Tejada and Fernando Martinez are about to be called up to the Mets, not traded. Some had speculated that they might be involved in a trade because they were scratched Friday from the lineup of their Class AAA Buffalo game, which is often a precursor to a trade. The Mets didn’t explain the reason Friday night because they had neither completed their plans nor told the other two players who will have to go to make room on the 25-man roster for Tejada and Martinez. It was not known which players are going to be sent down, or whether one would be released or traded, but an announcement should be coming later today. Good

metirish Aug 07 2010 08:52 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

So who gets DFA'd here...Francoeur?....Carter?....Louie....or are we looking at trades involving those players but not the two called up?

OlerudOwned Aug 07 2010 08:56 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

metirish wrote: So who gets DFA'd here...Francoeur?....Carter?....Louie....or are we looking at trades involving those players but not the two called up? Rosenthal sez that Francoeur has already cleared waivers. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. Could just be Jesus getting sent down again.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 07 2010 09:28 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Release Cora and Francouer!

metsmarathon Aug 07 2010 09:58 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

release ollie first, damnit! y'know, the more i think about it... and i hate to admit it... i like frenchy, and think the mets might make a mistake to get rid of him. i do find that there is some value to having a "chemistry guy" on the roster, and i think that frenchy is that guy. i think that he's overexposed as an every day player, but i like him as a bench guy. i'm not advocating resigning him to a long term contract, or even bringing him back for the same dollars, but i think he has value to the team, based primarily on the reaction in the dugout after his game winner against atlanta. is frenchy the preferred chemist over cora? well, ok. i guess frenchy could be more in the way of bringing up eligible young'uns than cora is, as we seem to have more outfield-eligible depth than infield eligible depth. but all else being equal, i'd rather hang onto him and dump cora instead of the other way around.

metirish Aug 07 2010 10:03 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Heyman speculating and that's all it is..... Manuel loves Carter so Francoeur could be on the outs...."mets just tryin gto shake things up"...no trades he loves him really?....is that why he keeps him on the bench all the time....so he's close to Jerry?.....

Edgy DC Aug 07 2010 10:12 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

I'm calling my new band The Healthy Scratches.

bmfc1 Aug 07 2010 10:35 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Adam Rubin AdamRubinESPN Source: Alex Cora released, Jesus Feliciano demoted.

metirish Aug 07 2010 10:41 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

bmfc1 wrote: Adam Rubin AdamRubinESPN Source: Alex Cora released, Jesus Feliciano demoted. No fucking way..they finally demoted Jesus Feliciano?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 07 2010 11:09 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

metirish wrote: Adam Rubin AdamRubinESPN Source: Alex Cora released, Jesus Feliciano demoted. No fucking way..they finally demoted Jesus Feliciano? Heh. Just as the team on the field is completely squandering the equity they'd built up early in the season, here comes the front office, making (belatedly) rational moves. Fernwood can't be coming up to ride the bench, right? So does this mean a Francoeur platoon/permanent benching?

OlerudOwned Aug 07 2010 11:10 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Hurrah. We won't have to see his vest, see his vest.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 07 2010 11:14 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

when asked about how he felt to be rejoining the Mets, Fartinez replied, 'Fuck you.' "That's exactly the kind of attitude we need around here," replied Omar Minaya.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 07 2010 11:20 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

In tribute to the Cora, Tejada plans to yell at people in the locker room after losses this time around... but mostly because they nick his smokes and/or lean against his car. #FuckYou

metirish Aug 07 2010 11:22 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Predictably Burkhardt is crying about it..... KBurkhardtSNY So the Mets release Cora, option Jesus Feliciano and bring up FMart and Tejada. They save 2 million, but that doesn't mean wins. STFU....

HahnSolo Aug 07 2010 11:30 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

I'm just shocked that he doesn't start every tweet with "Guys..."

Farmer Ted Aug 07 2010 11:33 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Cora signed his death certificate when he called out Pelf and the media in the locker room. NEVER call out the media, right Omar?

Edgy DC Aug 07 2010 11:37 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Good move. Too bad for Cora.

metirish Aug 07 2010 11:52 AM Re: Healthy Scratches

Looking forward to seeing what FMart can do this time around, how's his health and all that?

Zvon Aug 07 2010 04:17 PM Re: Healthy Scratches

[Re: Frenchy];.. but i think he has value to the team, based primarily on the reaction in the dugout after his game winner against atlanta. I'm not rehashing my feelings about Frenchy here. I asked him to do something, anything, vs. the Braves and he came through. Yay! What I'm saying here is that what you refer to, MM, did not go unnoticed, and I can't recall a time this season when I have seen the entire team this happy. Not that happiness translates into wins, but that was nice to see.

seawolf17 Aug 07 2010 06:56 PM Re: Healthy Scratches

Zvon wrote: What I'm saying here is that what you refer to, MM, did not go unnoticed, and I can't recall a time this season when I have seen the entire team this happy. Yeah, but that was because at that point, they hadn't won a game since the Nixon administration.