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Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 10 2010 09:29 AM

Just what the ailing Met offense needs: Ubaldo Jimenez! The Rocky road back to relevancy begins tonight!

metirish Aug 10 2010 09:32 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

He's due a bad game right? ,and Pelf is due a good one.(just dreaming)

Ceetar Aug 10 2010 09:45 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Let's see how the lineup shakes out. Will Castillo get the start, particularly against a tough pitcher? It's a righty, does that mean Fernando instead of Frenchy? Will Beltran talk his way into the lineup?

Centerfield Aug 10 2010 09:47 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

The Mets have no chance. Just like they had no chance against Wainwright after that horrible road trip.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 10 2010 10:30 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Yeah, this is the kind of game where they surprise us and win 8-1. We briefly get our hopes up, and they then lose the next seven in a row.

Ashie62 Aug 10 2010 11:18 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

LETS!

TransMonk Aug 10 2010 12:16 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

G-Fafif Aug 10 2010 12:29 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

bmfc1 Aug 10 2010 12:35 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 10 2010 02:06 PM

METS: Reyes-SS Martinez-RF Pagan-CF Wright-3B Davis-1B Carter-LF Thole-C Tejada-2B Pelfrey-RHP Rockies: Fowler CF Helton 1B Gonzalez LF Tulowitzki SS Hawpe RF Stewart 3B Olivo C Barmes 2B Jimenez P

G-Fafif Aug 10 2010 12:37 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

No Beltran vs. Jimenez

Edgy DC Aug 10 2010 12:40 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

No Francoeur despite the absence of Beltran and Bay. I applaud this outfield.

TransMonk Aug 10 2010 12:48 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Everyone in the lineup was drafted by the Mets, no? All homegrown...save Pagan's time with the Cubs?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 12:51 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="TransMonk":3qjexcbx]Everyone in the lineup was drafted by the Mets, no? All homegrown...save Pagan's time with the Cubs?[/quote:3qjexcbx] Also an import: Carter.

TransMonk Aug 10 2010 12:52 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

D'oh...you are correct. Still, this lineup screams "rebuilding" to me.

Ceetar Aug 10 2010 12:56 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="TransMonk":2puj8rc9]D'oh...you are correct. Still, this lineup screams "rebuilding" to me.[/quote:2puj8rc9] yup.

Vic Sage Aug 10 2010 01:40 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Martinez batting 2nd? Really? What, is it the consistent contact he makes or the blazing speed, or the lack of power (so bunting isn't as big a deal)? Or the fact that none of that describes him? Reyes-SS Thole-C Pagan-CF Davis-1B Wright-3B Carter-LF Martinez-RF Pelfrey-RHP Tejada-2B

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 02:06 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

What Vic sed. (Except I pop Wright above Ike.)

Vic Sage Aug 10 2010 02:43 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

i only flipped D-wright and Ike because: 1) David is ice cold, 2) Ike hits RHers, and 3) it breaks up the lefties a bit

metirish Aug 10 2010 04:05 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Beltran and Jerry had a closed door meeting, Pagan is surely next and then the infield.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 05:22 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

I've seen him before, so it's no surprise... but still: dude throws GAS. And hey-- FernyWalk!

Farmer Ted Aug 10 2010 05:28 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Extra Mustard pulls one from the archives today. This should ease the tension, courtesy of Roger McDowell. http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img ... 810.06.jpg

metirish Aug 10 2010 05:28 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Love watching him throw, Woody Johnson get the fuck out.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 05:36 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

It's amazing how much more people jump on football players in salary disputes, because of the rah-rah team crap. Meanwhile, the moment they're injured and the non-guaranteed money disappears, the transaction gets a buried graf deep in the sports section, and that's that. Pay Revis his money, and get off my Mets game, sir.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 06:27 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Pelf through five! PELF THROUGH FIVE!

bmfc1 Aug 10 2010 06:36 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Hey Mr. .241 BA, 289 OBP, bite me: http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/0 ... eur_1.html

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 06:42 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="bmfc1"]Hey Mr. .241 BA, 289 OBP, bite me: http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/0 ... eur_1.html

How does he feel about St. Paul?

HOLY SHIT! PELF THROUGH SIX!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 06:55 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Bleeder, fielder's choice, and a plunking, and we've got two fast runners on, one out, and a stew goin'. After a hit, a walk, and HBP, FernyMart's going for the on-base cycle here, btw.

bmfc1 Aug 10 2010 07:10 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Standing O for Pelf! Now get him a run.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 07:16 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

THOLE THOLE THOLE! 2nd and 3rd, none out. Squeeze? Swinging bunt?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 07:22 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Iffy strikeout looking after a valiant 9-pitch AB from overmatched Tejada.

bmfc1 Aug 10 2010 07:31 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Our thanks to the COL mgr. for walking Beltran, .195, to pitch to Reyes. Even Jerry was thinking "that guy over manages."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 07:34 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 10 2010 07:38 PM

Mora appearance! And disappearance. NICE catch from young Fernywood on a sinking liner from Fowler. And Helton's up and out. Perfect 8th for Tak.

Edgy DC Aug 10 2010 07:36 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

I mentally brought in Rodriguez to face Helton.

Edgy DC Aug 10 2010 07:43 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Tapping out to the mound against Joe Beimel --- not vintage Wright.

Edgy DC Aug 10 2010 07:45 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="bmfc1":nwi5ohtx]Our thanks to the COL mgr. for walking Beltran, .195, to pitch to Reyes. Even Jerry was thinking "that guy over manages."[/quote:nwi5ohtx] If I walk Beltran there, I walk Reyes too and go after the rook. I mean, if you're gonna be a bear...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 07:48 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Had Beimel stay in to face Wright... but bringing a righty in to face Francoeur?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 07:52 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="bmfc1":1ihk4c7e]Hey Mr. .241 BA, 289 OBP, bite me: http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/0 ... eur_1.html[/quote:1ihk4c7e] How do pickup games in Inwood strike you?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 07:56 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

One.

Ceetar Aug 10 2010 07:59 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"] One.

Two. (Freddie's coming for you)

Edgy DC Aug 10 2010 08:00 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Strap yourselves in. Keep your limbs inside the vehicle. I was reading blogs some time back to see who to invite to the Pool, and came to subscribe to this Mets blog by this young lady who is as cute as a bug. The amazing thing is that she has this great jones for Jeff Francoeur is consumed to the notion that Manuel is unjustly depriving Jeff of PT. I know these are emotional issues with the young, and I'm trying to gently explain to the lady that she is gripped by a madness --- an insidious case for French Dengue not unlike the dosage several of Higgins' lads were strincken with in Equatoral Guinea in '56. Or was it '57?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 10 2010 08:02 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Two.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 10 2010 08:03 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="bmfc1":yebl7iy1] Even Jerry was thinking "that guy over manages."[/quote:yebl7iy1] That's what I was thinking. Ooops, we won!

Nymr83 Aug 10 2010 08:03 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Pelf needs to be a beast like that every time out, he's not some noodle-armed Pedro, 120 pitches is fine for him

Ceetar Aug 10 2010 08:08 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="Nymr83":2q0ozsq3]Pelf needs to be a beast like that every time out, he's not some noodle-armed Pedro, 120 pitches is fine for him[/quote:2q0ozsq3] Something he's repeatedly noted. "My arm recovers well" etc. He'd probably be fine on short rest as well.

Edgy DC Aug 10 2010 08:16 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

EarlySeasonPelfreyDotCom! Well, our last two wins coming 1-0, I think it's clear what the defense and ptiching need to do, and that's be perfect. It would also help if the pitchers could hit for a little more power. No pressure.

metirish Aug 10 2010 08:22 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

A highly enjoyable game, well done Mike.

Frayed Knot Aug 10 2010 08:44 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

For a guy who supposedly throws 90+ off the mound with that left arm, Ike makes some of the wimpiest looking throws over to 1st when the pitcher is covering. He looks like he's making fade-away jump shots, shot-puts, Easter-egg tosses, etc. His throws to 2nd are OK when he's trying to go 3-6-3 so it's obvious he CAN still throw. He's just one of those guys who doesn't look like he knows how to throw soft when necessary. He's like one of those pitchers who suddenly look like a spaz when he gets a come-backer and just has to lob it over to 1st.

Ceetar Aug 10 2010 08:55 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="Frayed Knot":241u4cxf]For a guy who supposedly throws 90+ off the mound with that left arm, Ike makes some of the wimpiest looking throws over to 1st when the pitcher is covering. He looks like he's making fade-away jump shots, shot-puts, Easter-egg tosses, etc. His throws to 2nd are OK when he's trying to go 3-6-3 so it's obvious he CAN still throw. He's just one of those guys who doesn't look like he knows how to throw soft when necessary. He's like one of those pitchers who suddenly look like a spaz when he gets a come-backer and just has to lob it over to 1st.[/quote:241u4cxf] I've noticed that..but I've always noticed it's always a perfect throw right to where the pitcher will be. a soft lob is actually probably easier for a pitcher running and covering to grab.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 10 2010 09:19 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="Ceetar":2zr9dvum][quote="Frayed Knot":2zr9dvum]For a guy who supposedly throws 90+ off the mound with that left arm, Ike makes some of the wimpiest looking throws over to 1st when the pitcher is covering. He looks like he's making fade-away jump shots, shot-puts, Easter-egg tosses, etc. His throws to 2nd are OK when he's trying to go 3-6-3 so it's obvious he CAN still throw. He's just one of those guys who doesn't look like he knows how to throw soft when necessary. He's like one of those pitchers who suddenly look like a spaz when he gets a come-backer and just has to lob it over to 1st.[/quote:2zr9dvum] I've noticed that..but I've always noticed it's always a perfect throw right to where the pitcher will be. a soft lob is actually probably easier for a pitcher running and covering to grab.[/quote:2zr9dvum] I didn't see tonight's throw, but I'd generally agree with Ceetar. Ike looks like he's got a nice soft touch on tosses to the pitcher covering first.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 10 2010 09:20 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1hg2san0][quote="bmfc1":1hg2san0]Hey Mr. .241 BA, 289 OBP, bite me: http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/0 ... eur_1.html[/quote:1hg2san0] How do pickup games in Inwood strike you?[/quote:1hg2san0] I'm onto this spoiled pampered manipulative cocksucker.

Ceetar Aug 10 2010 09:27 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":1eaegnms][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1eaegnms][quote="bmfc1":1eaegnms]Hey Mr. .241 BA, 289 OBP, bite me: http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/0 ... eur_1.html[/quote:1eaegnms] How do pickup games in Inwood strike you?[/quote:1eaegnms] I'm onto this spoiled pampered manipulative cocksucker.[/quote:1eaegnms] Evan Roberts does a pickup game most Sundays. I'm sure Frenchy would fit right in.

Edgy DC Aug 10 2010 09:35 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Hate all you want. The real story here is Molly Fletcher and her bizarre performance of speaking in the first person plural on behalf of her client. “We want to play every day,” Francoeur’s agent Molly Fletcher said yesterday. “We prefer to play in New York. But if we’re not going to play every day in New York, we absolutely welcome the opportunity to play every day somewhere else.” Wait, are you referring to Frenchy or Molly?

Gwreck Aug 10 2010 09:37 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Dig the 1-0 game. Not much to complain about. Yeah, we didn't hit much but that Ubaldo guy is pretty good. Disappointed with Tejada failing to cover the bag quickly enough when Thole had the runner thrown out at second. Very pleased with Pelfrey's performance. Carter should be giving Davis a day off; looked like he needs it, perhaps even more than Beltran did.

Zvon Aug 10 2010 10:13 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 10 2010 10:20 PM

[quote="Ceetar"][quote="batmagadanleadoff"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="bmfc1"]Hey Mr. .241 BA, 289 OBP, bite me: http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/0 ... eur_1.html

How do pickup games in Inwood strike you?

I'm onto this spoiled pampered manipulative cocksucker.

Evan Roberts does a pickup game most Sundays. I'm sure Frenchy would fit right in.


I predict in the immediate future Jeff
Francoeur will be added to my shit list.

Your kiddin me, right Jeff?
Cripes, shut your yap and go back to smiling and gritting your teeth.

“We want to play every day,” Francoeur’s agent Molly Fletcher said yesterday. “We prefer to play in New York. But if we’re not going to play every day in New York, we absolutely welcome the opportunity to play every day somewhere else.”

What's this "we" shit? Do both of you have at-bats that make you look like a little league kid like 90% of the time?

Zvon Aug 10 2010 10:20 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

GREAT game tonight. And this is one I would not have bet on us winning. If Pelf really is back we got some much needed steam for this choo choo.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 10 2010 10:24 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

If Pelf's slump was entirely attributable to pitch-tipping, it's a shame that no one picked up on that earlier. (No one on the Mets, that is --- the opposition was onto it.) Because if the 1st half Pelf was the real deal, the Mets would be in the thick of it if not for Pelf's streak of ugly starts.

Ashie62 Aug 10 2010 10:46 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="Gwreck":nlhlvzc8]Dig the 1-0 game. Not much to complain about. Yeah, we didn't hit much but that Ubaldo guy is pretty good. Disappointed with Tejada failing to cover the bag quickly enough when Thole had the runner thrown out at second. Very pleased with Pelfrey's performance. Carter should be giving Davis a day off; looked like he needs it, perhaps even more than Beltran did.[/quote:nlhlvzc8] Ike is suffering from his first long MLB stretch of "the life."

themetfairy Aug 10 2010 10:58 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Pelfrey looked great tonight - it was a fun game to attend!

Ashie62 Aug 10 2010 11:16 PM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

You do get some amazing photos. Thanks.

Edgy DC Aug 11 2010 05:32 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="Zvon"][quote="Ceetar"][quote="batmagadanleadoff"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="bmfc1"]Hey Mr. .241 BA, 289 OBP, bite me: http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/0 ... eur_1.html

How do pickup games in Inwood strike you?

I'm onto this spoiled pampered manipulative cocksucker.

Evan Roberts does a pickup game most Sundays. I'm sure Frenchy would fit right in.


I predict in the immediate future Jeff
Francoeur will be added to my shit list.

Your kiddin me, right Jeff?
Cripes, shut your yap and go back to smiling and gritting your teeth.
He's got one quote in that article. One.

“I show up and if my name’s in the lineup, I’m playing. That’s pretty much all I have to say.”

bmfc1 Aug 11 2010 06:44 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 11 2010 07:02 AM

I'll give Jerry kudos for learning from a mistake... last night, he pinch ran Francoeur for Carter in the 8th. He could have used Castillo, arguably faster than Francoeur, but that would have left him without the option to PH for Tejada if he wanted to. On Sunday, he PH Castillo in the 5th which left him without a backup middle IF so he felt that he had to let Tejada bat in the 9th (when he could have PH Hessman). This is obvious stuff but Jerry didn't get it on Sunday and he got it last night so good for him. (I added "middle" before IF. Hessman's an IF but plays 1B/3B. The point is the same.)

Edgy DC Aug 11 2010 06:48 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

That's why my tee shirt says "LEARN, JERRY, LEARN!" I would guess Niese is a faster runner than Francoeur. Would a faster runner have scored on that double?

Ceetar Aug 11 2010 06:54 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="Edgy DC":2pe7wtn7]That's why my tee shirt says "LEARN, JERRY, LEARN!" I would guess Niese is a faster runner than Francoeur. Would a faster runner have scored on that double?[/quote:2pe7wtn7] I think Frenchy may have even scored on the double. But if it was Castillo it'd be a more sure thing. I think they held him at third because there were no outs.

Gwreck Aug 11 2010 06:55 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

There was no chance of Francouer scoring. A runner would have scored only if they were running on the pitch.

themetfairy Aug 11 2010 07:42 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="Ashie62":2z5t9uj1]You do get some amazing photos. Thanks.[/quote:2z5t9uj1] Not amazing, but I'm learning. But thanks for the compliment :)

Frayed Knot Aug 11 2010 07:48 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

[quote="Gwreck":20agsd9v]There was no chance of Francouer scoring. A runner would have scored only if they were running on the pitch.[/quote:20agsd9v] I agree. It was a liner that came off the wall and straight back to the strong-armed Hawpe. Thole wound up only barely getting to 2nd and I don't think Reyes/Pagan score on that one unless they were off on the pitch. The best thing about that switch was that it got Carter off the field (that, rather than speed, was its main purpose anyway) because an inning later Martinez - moved over to LF to make room for Francoeur - makes that diving catch coming in that Carter almost certainly doesn't.

Edgy DC Aug 11 2010 08:04 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Yes, I'm certain that switch was about defense. I was just asking if there was a somewhat better baserunner in the meantime. At any rate, making a switch for defense before the team has achieved a lead (or indeed come any closer than getting a runner or first with no out) is dangerous business. Classick Jerry playing for the tie there. He certainly could have made the swap after achieving the lead. The difference in footspeed though is near negligible, isn't it? I'd put Carter at below average and Francouer as a little bit less below average.

Frayed Knot Aug 11 2010 08:13 AM Re: Change Your Fundies: Rockies/Mets iGT 8/10/10

Eh, I don't think that's such a conservative move. It's already bottom 7 and that spot in the lineup isn't even a sure bet to come around again (it didn't as things turned out) and scoring there makes it even less likely. Besides, it's not like Carter is some great established hitter that's being yanked here -- unlike, say, Girardi pulling ARod for a pr the other day and having to hit backup IF Ramiro Pena in his spot in the 9th inning of a tight game later on. So speed was upgraded somewhat; defense upgraded significantly; and I think we'll survive without a (possible) Chris Carter AB in the late inning for a guy who - flaws and all - has most of our GW-RBIs over the last two weeks.