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IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Ceetar Aug 17 2010 01:43 PM

Reyes-SS, Martinez-LF, Wright-3B, Beltran-CF, Davis-1B, Francoeur-RF, Thole-C, Tejada-2B, Santana-LHP Castillo needs to be in there. Mets don't win two in a row, win on the road, win series in merely the second game, if at all, so It's probably a safe bet to put your money on the former Colt .45s. That said, Santana will probably pitch another complete game.

metirish Aug 17 2010 01:48 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Jerry is doing 2nd base by committee , knows he needs the practice.

Ceetar Aug 17 2010 01:57 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="metirish":2f042iuj]Jerry is doing 2nd base by committee , knows he needs the practice.[/quote:2f042iuj] Either that or Castillo has somehow become part of the closer committee.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 17 2010 02:08 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

The playoffs are no longer a realistic possibility, right? So there seems absolutely no point to keeping guys like Castillo and Frenchy in the everyday lineup, and guys like FernyMart and Tejada out of it.

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 02:10 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

I think they're certainly a realistic possibility. Certainly more possible than not making the playoffs was down the stretch in 2007.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 17 2010 02:12 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

I hope Jerry has an intelligent explanation for why Frenchy is in and Pagan is out against a righty.

seawolf17 Aug 17 2010 02:14 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":wcytlb0n]I hope Jerry has an intelligent explanation for why Frenchy is in and Pagan is out against a righty.[/quote:wcytlb0n] I bet it involves "giving Pagan a blow."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2010 02:14 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Pagan looked to me like he could use a blow. He has been carrying whatever offense the team could muster for weeks now. Frenchy is getting his start, and Fartinez is getting Frenchy's, kinda. Tejada can't hit, at least not yet and Castillo for all his limits can at least reach base. I don't see why we oughta use him.

metirish Aug 17 2010 02:17 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 17 2010 02:22 PM

Guys , what's with all the questions?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 17 2010 02:17 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 17 2010 02:23 PM

They're dozens of cumulative games out of the Wild Card, and something like twenty cumulative games out of the division. I think we have differing opinions on what "realistic" is. (There's a reason why 2007 was so notable.) [quote="batmagadanleadoff"]I hope Jerry has an intelligent explanation for why Frenchy is in and Pagan is out against a righty.

"I don't see why he needs to explain himself to you. Jeff's a ballplayer, Angel's a ballplayer."



"HA! She's a fiery one! Lookit that bat! HA!"

batmagadanleadoff Aug 17 2010 02:17 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

I woulda given him his blow yesterday. I'd bet anything that Davey Johnson woulda done the same. What would Davey do?

batmagadanleadoff Aug 17 2010 02:19 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="metirish"] {i]Guys , what's with all the questions?

Angels background. Jerry's first day, no?

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 02:20 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Start players who can hit better. No way I pack it in now if I'm the manager. No way I encourage it as a fan.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2010 02:23 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Hmmm... Wasn't "giving him a blow" Willie's expression, not Jerry's?

seawolf17 Aug 17 2010 02:25 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2me19dw7]Hmmm... Wasn't "giving him a blow" Willie's expression, not Jerry's?[/quote:2me19dw7] Maybe Jerry stole it from Willie, but I hear that in Jerry's voice the way I hear "pitcher of record on the long side" in Gary's.

metirish Aug 17 2010 02:26 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":6qdk2mkz]Hmmm... Wasn't "giving him a blow" Willie's expression, not Jerry's?[/quote:6qdk2mkz] Ed Coleman....no?

Ceetar Aug 17 2010 02:26 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1yly1m0n]Hmmm... Wasn't "giving him a blow" Willie's expression, not Jerry's?[/quote:1yly1m0n] Jerry hasn't added anything of value since Willie left, why should he change teh vocab? Bourn, CF; Sanchez, SS; Pence, RF; Lee, LF; Chris Johnson, 3B; Wallace, 1B; Blum, 2B; Castro, C; Figueroa, RHP

metirish Aug 17 2010 02:27 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":10dr5z0t] Angels background. Jerry's first day, no?[/quote:10dr5z0t] I think so yes, June 16 http://ultimatemets.com/metannual.php?T ... 3&month=06

batmagadanleadoff Aug 17 2010 02:35 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="Ceetar":tumwqwyk][quote="John Cougar Lunchbucket":tumwqwyk]Hmmm... Wasn't "giving him a blow" Willie's expression, not Jerry's?[/quote:tumwqwyk] Jerry hasn't added anything of value since Willie left, why should he change teh vocab? [/quote:tumwqwyk] You mean other than cleaning up Willie's shit and managing the best record in the NL in 2008. And falling one game short because of the crap Jerry inherited from Willie? Life's a game when four out of the first five guys in your lineup play like MVP's and the fifth one is merely an all-star having somewhat of a career year.

Zvon Aug 17 2010 03:17 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="metirish"] Guys , what's with all the questions?

This is so subtle in its hilariousness.
Caption of the month winner in my book.
And I have seen some very funny ones here.

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]They're dozens of cumulative games out of the Wild Card, and something like twenty cumulative games out of the division. I think we have differing opinions on what "realistic" is. (There's a reason why 2007 was so notable.)


Hey, this is baseball!
Until the math indicates otherwise, anything is possible. ANYTHING!
Met fans should know this more than any other fan of any other team.

[quote="batmagadanleadoff"]I hope Jerry has an intelligent explanation for why Frenchy is in and Pagan is out against a righty.
I don't think tonight is the night to keep Pagan out. Win game two first.
Castillo either. We need to make stuff happen and win the series.
Field your best team for Santana.
Go out and attack Figueroa!

Maybe his thinking is tomorrow we have Myers, also a RHP, and that this is a four game series.
Bud Norris going Thurs., another righty.

I would not be looking so far ahead. I would want to make sure we win game two tonight.
Rest shmest. Lets start conditioning these players for long hauls.

Ashie62 Aug 17 2010 03:49 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

LETS!

Rockin' Doc Aug 17 2010 05:29 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 05:39 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

themetfairy Aug 17 2010 06:12 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

F-Mart drives in JoseJoseJoseJose for the first run of the game!

metirish Aug 17 2010 06:15 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Martinez looked like he was running with a limp on that steal. Anyone else think that?

Zvon Aug 17 2010 06:25 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="metirish":2unm210e]Martinez looked like he was running with a limp on that steal. Anyone else think that?[/quote:2unm210e] Missed it :( And F-Mart drove in Reyes? Very nice. I'd like nothing more than Jerry looking like he knows what he's doing. I'll gladly eat my words up there if we win 3 out of 4 here in Houston. Good way to start the game. 1-0 Mets

bmfc1 Aug 17 2010 06:26 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Yes. He runs strangely.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 17 2010 06:30 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Frenchy against righties. Paying dividends.

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 06:31 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

I ain't afraid of no three-run homer. This is Good News Day.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 17 2010 06:32 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Does Wayne Hagin have to sound SO fucking gleeful when the other team hits the ball a long way?

Zvon Aug 17 2010 06:33 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Settle down Johan, we need you tonight. The real good you.

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 06:34 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3nci9o37]Does Wayne Hagin have to sound SO fucking gleeful when the other team hits the ball a long way?[/quote:3nci9o37] I know. Hey, Reyes. Two hands.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 17 2010 06:37 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

I will use my svengali powers to manipulate Jerrry into playing me. I rake righties.

Zvon Aug 17 2010 06:41 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 17 2010 07:19 PM

How could it feel for a kid like Thole to be catching a pitcher like Santana? I mean, I'd be like WOW. K, Wright still backin up but he fields that on solid legs and gets the out. Now lets go get some more runs Mets!

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 06:43 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Me watching the game: "Hey, that guy kind of looks like Nelson Figueroa."

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 06:44 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Ruben Tejada: oh for his last 26.

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 06:45 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Swing, Johan. Look how much they're cheating up.

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 06:45 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Like that. Suckas!

Zvon Aug 17 2010 06:48 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="Edgy DC"]Swing, Johan. Look how much they're cheating up.

[quote="Edgy DC"]Like that.

Suckas!
Nice.
Stop or I'll become an Edgyhead.

Got one right back. I'll take it.

Zvon Aug 17 2010 06:56 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Great throw by Beltran.Nice quick tag by Tejeda. Nice freaking play and Bourne ultimately loses his identity at second through supremacy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 17 2010 07:51 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Johan since the 1st: 5 IP, 3 H, 0 BB, 7 K, 51 pitches.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 17 2010 07:53 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Funky called strike three on a PHing Pagan. Jeff Fulchino must tip the umps nicely.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 17 2010 07:56 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

That's four inning-ending liners to the warning track/wall, by my count.

Frayed Knot Aug 17 2010 07:57 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3i47ztow]Johan since the 1st: 5 IP, 3 H, 0 BB, 7 K, 51 pitches.[/quote:3i47ztow] Met bats since the 1st - about the same

Zvon Aug 17 2010 08:01 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

One run guys. Can ya get one freakin run please. Fulchino has given up 23 runs in around 36 innings pitched. Come-on already. Ouch. One out double by an Asstro.

Zvon Aug 17 2010 08:07 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Nice DP. Who's this guy in for Fulchino? Melancon ?

Zvon Aug 17 2010 08:09 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Gwreck Aug 17 2010 08:09 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

KABOOM!

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 08:09 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

One run there for you, Zvon.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2010 08:09 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Melancon was a MFY reject acquired in the Berkman trade. I just saw David Wright drive in a run.

Zvon Aug 17 2010 08:13 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="Edgy DC":1x4lwy7y]One run there for you, Zvon.[/quote:1x4lwy7y] Damn. I should have asked for more than one run. Okay, I will now. 5 RUNS PLEASE!

Zvon Aug 17 2010 08:19 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Your fuckin kidden me. I hate to say it but I like Pence cuz he so does not look like a ballplayer and every time I see him he's playing good baseball.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 17 2010 08:23 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

The good news is that we cleared Frenchy for the 9th.

Ceetar Aug 17 2010 08:24 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":rrdclv3z]The good news is that we cleared Frenchy for the 9th.[/quote:rrdclv3z] but not Tejada.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 17 2010 08:24 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Nobody's gonna blame Jerry for leaving Santana in to give up Pence's 2d HR? (You know who you are.)

batmagadanleadoff Aug 17 2010 08:24 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Tejada's out.

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 08:26 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Terrible at-bat by Pagan. Shut up, Wayne Hagin.

Zvon Aug 17 2010 08:32 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":21uvtjlw]Nobody's gonna blame Jerry for leaving Santana in to give up Pence's 2d HR? (You know who you are.)[/quote:21uvtjlw] I won't. I can question it in retrospect but before hand I surely would have wanted to see Santana start the 8th. And at that point pitch to Hunter.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2010 08:33 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Yeah the Pagan AB, and the DP by Davis in the 8th, really crushed us tonight.

Zvon Aug 17 2010 08:35 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

And I screwed up by only asking for one more run. I'm new at being a Buckethead. Bucketheads can ask for more.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 17 2010 08:39 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

Frenchy failed with two men on base in the first. He also swung on at least four pitches that were about a foot out of the strike zone. This is all a part of Jerry's reverse platoon where the manager tries to get the worst out of his ballplayers.

Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 09:14 PM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="Zvon":wn1p6zs4][quote="batmagadanleadoff":wn1p6zs4]Nobody's gonna blame Jerry for leaving Santana in to give up Pence's 2d HR? (You know who you are.)[/quote:wn1p6zs4] I won't. I can question it in retrospect but before hand I surely would have wanted to see Santana start the 8th. And at that point pitch to Hunter.[/quote:wn1p6zs4] I'd pull him if there was somebody on. But otherwise, Santana's a good enough and smart enough pitcher to keep the ball away from the guy with the bases empty. That one is on Santana. (And I guess Thole, to a small extent.)

metirish Aug 18 2010 07:52 AM Re: IGT - Mets @ former Astros Field - 8/17/10

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":wd92aq1v]Nobody's gonna blame Jerry for leaving Santana in to give up Pence's 2d HR? (You know who you are.)[/quote:wd92aq1v] Who are they?