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IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

G-Fafif Aug 21 2010 09:58 PM

More Met home runs! More Met complete games! Another Mets win, por favor! Treat this place like Pirate Park @ PNC Yards.

Zvon Aug 21 2010 10:07 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

More rain with a lead after 5!

bmfc1 Aug 22 2010 07:19 AM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Have a reliever pitch the first and then put Santana in to start the 2d.

Ceetar Aug 22 2010 08:25 AM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Jose Reyes - SS Angel Pagan - LF Carlos Beltran - CF David Wright - 3B Jeff Francoeur - RF Ike Davis - 1B Henry Blanco - C Ruben Tejada - 2B Johan Santana - LHP

bmfc1 Aug 22 2010 09:02 AM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Pirates: McCutchen CF, Tabata LF, Walker 2B, Jones 1B, Alvarez 3B, Doumit C, Milledge RF, Cedeno SS, Duke P

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 11:38 AM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Though Beltran did hit that a ways, that was a plain-and-simple JoseJoseJoseJose run, there. Been a few of those lately, eh?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 11:44 AM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

A Francoeur walk. Somewhere, an angel gets quoted as saying, "They're going with young players; I just wish they'd admit it."

bmfc1 Aug 22 2010 11:46 AM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

I love it when Jose is on 2d, the #2 hitter didn't move him over, so Jose gets to 3d on his own.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 11:51 AM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Covered for his own mistake, really. Meanwhile, the Pirates are falling for Johan's change like it was a pretending-to-be-pregnant post-menopausal wife.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 11:56 AM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

I'm feeling a Hank White home run at some point today.

bmfc1 Aug 22 2010 12:01 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Frigging umpires have so little to do, get paid so much, and they suck.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 12:02 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Duke looked like he was tiring a bit there in the second. It was nice of the umps to end the inning-- with that terrible call on Reyes-- for him like that.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 22 2010 12:03 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":2u64qlt7]Meanwhile, the Pirates are falling for Johan's change like it was a pretending-to-be-pregnant post-menopausal wife.[/quote:2u64qlt7] Are you Dennis Miller?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 12:07 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 22 2010 12:09 PM

[quote="batmagadanleadoff"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Meanwhile, the Pirates are falling for Johan's change like it was a pretending-to-be-pregnant post-menopausal wife.

Are you Dennis Miller?

You're makin' me feel like John McCain visiting a Vietnamese zoo, here. There issome relevance here. You follow me there, Ho Chi Miniature? (Head bobbles, with accompanying hair shake. Audience remains silent.)

bmfc1 Aug 22 2010 12:08 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Justin Turner, possible September call-up, got hurt today (tweet from a Bisons beat writer): Turner has right knee injury. Didn't hear a pop. Maybe hyperextended. In pretty good pain.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 12:19 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 22 2010 12:26 PM

Walk to Cedeno. Grr. OE: Nevermind.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 22 2010 12:26 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="batmagadanleadoff"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Meanwhile, the Pirates are falling for Johan's change like it was a pretending-to-be-pregnant post-menopausal wife.

Are you Dennis Miller?

You're makin' me feel like John McCain visiting a Vietnamese zoo, here. There issome relevance here. You follow me there, Ho Chi Miniature? (Head bobbles, with accompanying hair shake. Audience remains silent.)

What can I say, Torquemada? You're a genius. And so is anybody else who understood that post.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 12:34 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 22 2010 12:38 PM

Aw, shucks, I don't know about that completely deserved nobody appreciates me to the extent they should.Thanks for the compliment-- you're a true gentleman baggadouche. Johan's pitching effectively through four.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 22 2010 12:37 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="batmagadanleadoff"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"][quote="batmagadanleadoff"][quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]Meanwhile, the Pirates are falling for Johan's change like it was a pretending-to-be-pregnant post-menopausal wife.

Are you Dennis Miller?

You're makin' me feel like John McCain visiting a Vietnamese zoo, here. There issome relevance here. You follow me there, Ho Chi Miniature? (Head bobbles, with accompanying hair shake. Audience remains silent.)

What can I say, Torquemada? You're a genius. And so is anybody else who understood that post.

I was going to write that I think I stole that line from Miller himself and that, therefore, your Miller is better than my Miller. But if I copped Miller's line, I wonder if my Miller is better than yours.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 12:46 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Ha. Oh, and "dammit."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 12:49 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Double dammit.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 22 2010 01:19 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

The hell with HoJo calling out the hitters. SANTANA should be calling out the hitters.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 01:22 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Something's gotta happen. I lobby for Johan to come out next inning disguised as "relief pitcher" Sean Jantana.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 22 2010 01:33 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

I think I've seen enough of Frenchy now.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 22 2010 01:33 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

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bmfc1 Aug 22 2010 01:37 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="metsguyinmichigan":38lyxans]I think I've seen enough of Frenchy now.[/quote:38lyxans] No point in his ever getting another AB for the Mets.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 01:39 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

What a fucking travesty of an offense. I mean, so is Pittsburgh's. But they've tagged an on-point Johan for two HRs.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 01:44 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Ike was thisclose to a tie-boom there.

bmfc1 Aug 22 2010 01:45 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Is there any greater evidence that Jerry is an idiot than right now?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 01:46 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 22 2010 01:47 PM

? What, sitting Carter? (Just foul. DAMMIT.)

bmfc1 Aug 22 2010 01:47 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

PR for Ike. Use Castillo. If the game proceeds, he's in anyway for Tejada.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 01:48 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Fair enough. Castillo for Ike, he stays in to play second, Hessman comes in for Carter next inning, Thole to catch. (Assuming a tie.)

Zvon Aug 22 2010 01:49 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

What's all this then? Come on Thole. Keep things going.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 01:50 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="bmfc1":2eltwi58]PR for Ike. Use Castillo. If the game proceeds, he's in anyway for Tejada.[/quote:2eltwi58] I agree. That non move is very odd.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 01:52 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Are we gonna waste another fine pitching performance? wassupw/dat?

Zvon Aug 22 2010 01:53 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

yep. shame on you Mets.

bmfc1 Aug 22 2010 01:55 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Early in the game, Gary said something to the effect of "if they win today, then they play the Marlins who aren't as good as they were earlier in the year, and then they play Houston, so if they can get from 7 and a half to 5 games back by September 1st, anything is possible." You know what's not possible? Scoring 2 runs against Zach Duke. Also, it would be nice to have a manager that understands baseball as least as much as we do or any other idiot on Twitter because I checked the #mets Twitter feed and the masses were incredulous that Jerry didn't PR for Ike.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 02:01 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Why would he not PR for Ike? I can't think of one reason. I imagine he will be asked and the why should be interesting. Not that it mattered in the end. If you can't score 3 runs today you pretty much suck. Santana is a great sport and all but even he has to be shaking his head and muttering under his breath, like I am right now.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 02:08 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Milledge homered? Ugh. The last person I wanted to see beat us.

Kong76 Aug 22 2010 02:31 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

I fell asleep in my chair twice during the game. I never do that.

Frayed Knot Aug 22 2010 03:19 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

I thought of pinch-running for Ike before he even got on. Other than that, Carter had a very nice AB but got unlucky. Thole tried to do the same (go to LF with the hard stuff and be ready to yank something slower) but got screwed by McClellan. It was nice of Pitt mgr Russell to pull his 8th inning guy Meek who was humming along for the designated closer who wasn't - lest we think it's only Jerry who does such things. But none of that matters when you score the first batter of the game and then never again. I've seen that movie already and I know the ending by heart.

G-Fafif Aug 22 2010 04:44 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Two complete game losses in a row for Johan. Gotta be the first time for that since whenever CG's were commonplace. Same for the three consecutive CG's. But I'm still trying to get over this Justin Turner news.

G-Fafif Aug 22 2010 04:49 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

According to Baseball Reference, last time a Met lost two consecutive complete game starts was Jerry Koosman in 1977.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 22 2010 04:52 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="G-Fafif":229sscym]According to Baseball Reference, last time a Met lost two consecutive complete game starts was Jerry Koosman in 1977.[/quote:229sscym] That portends well.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 04:53 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="G-Fafif":3r3h8zj7]According to Baseball Reference, last time a Met lost two consecutive complete game starts was Jerry Koosman in 1977.[/quote:3r3h8zj7] wow. I'm watching this game now. So Jose was ripped off his 2nd at bat by another bad call against the Mets. How could the ump mess up that call? Yikes.

G-Fafif Aug 22 2010 04:57 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":1oa0rtq6][quote="G-Fafif":1oa0rtq6]According to Baseball Reference, last time a Met lost two consecutive complete game starts was Jerry Koosman in 1977.[/quote:1oa0rtq6] That portends well.[/quote:1oa0rtq6] Last Met with three consecutive complete games, either decision, David Cone in 1990. He won two of the three. Kooz in '76 and Seaver in '69 hold the record with 8 consecutive CG's. Johan the first Met to pitch as many as 4 CG's in one season since Pedro Martinez in 2005.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 05:15 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="G-Fafif":3rlkgwoo] Kooz in '76 and Seaver in '69 hold the record with 8 consecutive CG's. [/quote:3rlkgwoo] 8 in a row! That's something else. I'm reading a book about the world series and, i should go get the book and confirm this before I post it, but I do believe during the 56 WS there were 8 complete games pitched. That just totally amazed me.

G-Fafif Aug 22 2010 05:28 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="Zvon":15t74py2]I'm reading a book about the world series and, i should go get the book and confirm this before I post it, but I do believe during the 56 WS there were 8 complete games pitched. That just totally amazed me.[/quote:15t74py2] Yup: 6 for the winning pitchers, 2 for the losing pitchers. Take that, Darold Knowles.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 05:51 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Just saw the Milledge homer. Pitch up in the zone. Santana knew it was gone right off the bat, and simply lowered his head. Man, that was crushed. Damn you Lastings. Damn you.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 06:10 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Tabata? Who the fuck is Tabada? Ew, bad pitch by Santana. May as well have let him put it on a tee.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 06:29 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

I'm in the 8th. Should I even watch the end of this? Has the season itself been enough torture? I guess I do wanna see that next Davis at bat, from what I read here.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 06:45 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Ugh, the pain I am experiencing watching Santana pitch so awsum and knowing he is not gotta get a win here. Someone hit me upside the head with a brick please.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 06:57 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

Yow. Just saw Ikes foul blast. And he singles and this is where I came in. Yea, even the booth called for a PR for Davis if he should reach. They did touch on it after the single but didn't dwell on it. When you are in the 9th, down by a run, and a slow guy gets on, AND you can easily afford to do it (Castillo 2 run, Hessman to 1st if we tie it) its just good fundamental baseball to do that. I don't wanna get stuck on this but win or lose, we need to at least do these kinds of things right.

Zvon Aug 22 2010 07:00 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

So I get to see us lose twice today. Isn't that special?

batmagadanleadoff Aug 23 2010 12:38 AM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

For the month of August, all four regular Mets starting pitchers have ERA's under 3.00: Santana -- 31 1/3 IP - 2.30 ERA Pelfrey -- 26 2/3 - 2.36 Dickey -- 26 1/3 - 2.73 Niese -- 30 1/3 - 2.97

metirish Aug 23 2010 04:31 AM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

lenno212 Santana became first #Mets pitcher to pitch three straight CGs since Davdi Cone in 1990. First to lose back-to-back CGs since Koosman in '77

MFS62 Aug 23 2010 09:46 AM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="batmagadanleadoff":3gi3jbbh]For the month of August, all four regular Mets starting pitchers have ERA's under 3.00: Santana -- 31 1/3 IP - 2.30 ERA Pelfrey -- 26 2/3 - 2.36 Dickey -- 26 1/3 - 2.73 Niese -- 30 1/3 - 2.97[/quote:3gi3jbbh] So, who is going to be the first Mets starter to go postal in the press- really rip into the offense? Or will any of them do it? They all keep saying the right things, and you know it must be eating them up inside. Later

batmagadanleadoff Aug 23 2010 10:49 PM Re: IGT 8/22/10 NYM @ PIT: Go Deep, Let's Sweep

[quote="MFS62":lc2tqhr4][quote="batmagadanleadoff":lc2tqhr4]For the month of August, all four regular Mets starting pitchers have ERA's under 3.00: Santana -- 31 1/3 IP - 2.30 ERA Pelfrey -- 26 2/3 - 2.36 Dickey -- 26 1/3 - 2.73 Niese -- 30 1/3 - 2.97[/quote:lc2tqhr4] So, who is going to be the first Mets starter to go postal in the press- really rip into the offense? Or will any of them do it? They all keep saying the right things, and you know it must be eating them up inside. Later[/quote:lc2tqhr4] Might as well add Misch to the [crossout:lc2tqhr4]under 3.00[/crossout:lc2tqhr4] 3.00 and under list: Santana -- 39 1/3 IP - 2.29 ERA Pelfrey -- 26 2/3 - 2.36 Dickey -- 26 1/3 - 2.73 Niese -- 30 1/3 - 2.97 Misch -- 12 - 3.00 The five starters are a combined 6-9 with a cumulative ERA of 2.69 for the month of August.