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DocTee Aug 11 2010 10:12 PM

Arrested, domestic abuse. Cut. Him. Now.

Nymr83 Aug 11 2010 10:18 PM Re: K-Rod

from cbs News: New York Mets reliever Francisco Rodriguez is in custody after what police called a "physical assault" on a family member at Citi Field. Police say Rodriguez will be charged with third-degree assault. Police say the incident occurred after the Mets' 6-2 loss to the Colorado Rockies on Wednesday night. Police did not say which family member Rodriguez scuffled with -- reports are it was his father-in-law -- but said the unidentified man had minor injuries. The Mets confirmed there was an incident between Rodriguez and his family, and referred all questions to the police

Mex17 Aug 12 2010 04:18 AM Re: K-Rod

It really seems like you can always count on something along the lines of this happening at least one time every year with this team, especially when they are losing.

metirish Aug 12 2010 04:46 AM Re: K-Rod

T'was the father-in-law... http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... s_on_.html

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2010 05:26 AM Re: K-Rod

This clown's gotta go. Apparently it was Manuel's decision not to go to Rodriguez for a four-out save in the eighth inning with the Mets leading 2-1 last Wednesday night that set the closer off. Manuel went with Manny Acosta, who gave up a grand slam and ruined a terrific outing by starter Jon Niese. When a reporter approached Rodriguez in the clubhouse after the game to ask him about Manuel's decision, K-Rod angrily shouted and cursed at the reporter. "Did, I f-----g pitch tonight," Rodriguez said. "Why do I have to talk to you f-----g guys?" Read more: [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2010/08/12/2010-08-12_francisco_rodriguezs_alleged_attack_on_fatherinlaw_creates_problems_for_mets_on_.html#ixzz0wOF6jEYb

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 12 2010 05:27 AM Re: K-Rod Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2010 05:36 AM

FAAAAAAAAANtastic. I wonder what kind of odds I can get on a "Bay sprays reporters with Grade A maple" bet.

bmfc1 Aug 12 2010 05:32 AM Re: K-Rod

There goes my hope that he'd be traded to Tampa before September 1.

metirish Aug 12 2010 06:04 AM Re: K-Rod

Bucket, when you say this clowns gotta go are you talking about Manuel or Rodriguez?, or perhaps both?

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 06:22 AM Re: K-Rod

Manuel uses him properly this probably never happens. I thought the Mets didn't have enough "fuck you" attitude?

bmfc1 Aug 12 2010 06:32 AM Re: K-Rod Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2010 06:53 AM

Mets ownership has a "fuck you" attitude toward us when it keeps Perez on the team. Jerry's excuse that Rodriguez pitched the night before so he didn't want him pitching more than one inning is bullshit. He didn't even think of having Rodriguez ready and that's why he wasn't in the game so he fed us nonsense.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2010 06:49 AM Re: K-Rod

Ceetar wrote: Manuel uses him properly this probably never happens. I thought the Mets didn't have enough "fuck you" attitude? wtf.

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 06:52 AM Re: K-Rod

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ceetar wrote: Manuel uses him properly this probably never happens. I thought the Mets didn't have enough "fuck you" attitude? wtf. What? is that a stretch? Seriously though, I think Manuel set this up to distract from his contradictory post game comments.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 12 2010 06:54 AM Re: K-Rod

I agree! That's exactly the kind of thing Jerry does! He tells his players to attack their fathers-in-law after most losses!

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 06:59 AM Re: K-Rod

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I agree! That's exactly the kind of thing Jerry does! He tells his players to attack their fathers-in-law after most losses! To be fair, Jerry though K-Rod's father in law was Oliver Perez.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 07:20 AM Re: K-Rod

I thought it was Brian Bruney. Really, though, when we coddle and indulge our high-end relief pitchers, we shouldn't be shocked when they turn out to be sociopaths. I'm really confused at how Jerry's still standing. I guess they just want to fire him and Omar together. It would be really great if there was a statement along the lines of, "We did our own internal investigation and based on the facts we gathered, we concluded he was an asshole. A huge one, to be honest."

Willets Point Aug 12 2010 07:23 AM Re: K-Rod

Did Frankie first load the bases before punching out his father-in-law?

bmfc1 Aug 12 2010 07:23 AM Re: K-Rod

Edgy DC wrote: I thought it was Brian Bruney. Really, though, when we coddle and indulge our high-end relief pitchers, we shouldn't be shocked when they turn out to be sociopaths. I'm really confused at how Jerry's still standing. I guess they just want to fire him and Omar together. Good stuff Edgy in all three lines. The Wilpons have to pay Jerry whether or not he manages the team so why promote someone who will then have to get a raise? Perhaps the day after the season, Jerry goes and Omar is reassigned.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 07:30 AM Re: K-Rod

I don't think it's a question of pay. The amount of money an interim manager gets is neglible in the context of the cost of running a team.

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 07:35 AM Re: K-Rod

Edgy DC wrote: I don't think it's a question of pay. The amount of money an interim manager gets is neglible in the context of the cost of running a team. I think it's a question of not seeing the point of grabbing an interim.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2010 07:40 AM Re: K-Rod Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2010 07:47 AM

I'm sure Jerry is a goner at the conclusion of the year. There's just no way anymore. This really resembles the Art Howe and Wes Westrum situations where the manager's future joblessness is so apparent they either voluntarily step aside (Westrum) or soldier on despite a leaked firing.

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 07:43 AM Re: K-Rod

Well, would we feel better if they didn't fire him, but leaked that they were going to?

Benjamin Grimm Aug 12 2010 07:45 AM Re: K-Rod

I agree with interim guys being pointless when there are only seven to ten games left in the season. I was glad that they let Art Howe finish up, and they should have done the same with Bud Harrelson and Wes Westrum. But with 50 games left? I'd rather give Chip Hale, or Tim Teufel, or Ken Oberkfell, or somebody, a chance to audition for the job. Or even better, choose the permanent replacement, like they did when Bobby Valentine replaced Dallas Green in 1996. (And when Bud Harrelson replaced Davey Johnson in 1990.) There's no reason at all for Jerry to continue any longer. He's a dead man walking.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2010 07:47 AM Re: K-Rod

ANYWAY, since you douchebags turned this into another conversation about Jerry, I forgot my main point, which is this: If I'm the Mets, I am exploring every possibility to use this incident and others as a way to excise themselves from the asinine contract Omar gave to Rodriguez, if only because the budget seems like it's such a factor now. If they are not careful they will be on the hook for $29 million for this guy over the next 2 seasons, and nobody, much less a sociopath who beats his own family members, is worth that kind of scratch. Talk to his agent, the union, and work something out, but get this clown out of a Mets uniform and take whatever releif you can get from your own people.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2010 07:48 AM Re: K-Rod

All threads now - including apparently family-related assaults - lead to Jerry's job status.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 07:51 AM Re: K-Rod

To me the best parallel is Yogi Berra. His team needed disciplining and he lacked the juice and support from management to bring the hammer down on them, so he had become emasculated to the point of being a ghost in his own clubhouse. I get the idea nobody's captaining this ship right now. I'd love for them to use this as an excuse to get the uniform off of Rodriguez's back and quickly, but I don't see a scenario where that happens.

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 07:56 AM Re: K-Rod

Edgy DC wrote: To me the best parallel is Yogi Berra. His team needed disciplining and he lacked the juice and support from management to bring the hammer down on them, so he had become emasculated to the point of being a ghost in his own clubhouse. I get the idea nobody's captaining this ship right now. I'd love for them to use this as an excuse to get the uniform off of Rodriguez's back and quickly, but I don't see a scenario where that happens. I don't see a scenario either. I'm not sure I'd want to. The silliness of a closer aside, he's still one of the better relievers, and I don't quite believe the Mets have no money for a SP/2B/relievers next year.

Centerfield Aug 12 2010 07:58 AM Re: K-Rod

If K-Rod goes, who closes games? Go in-house like Parnell? Or shop again for an "established" closer?

MFS62 Aug 12 2010 07:59 AM Re: K-Rod

If it had been his mother-in-law, I could understand it. Later

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 07:59 AM Re: K-Rod

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Or even better, choose the permanent replacement, like they did when Bobby Valentine replaced Dallas Green in 1996. (And when Bud Harrelson replaced Davey Johnson in 1990.) You really can't do that anymore. The league's affirmative action plan says a minority must be interviewed for each opening, so a typical in-season managerial change has to be temporary while they make a show of interviewing a group of guys. They could just a appoint the guy they want as interim and run cursory interviews before appointing him as full manager a week later, but the Mets are such good soldiers and I don't think they'll roll that way. Do I have this wrong? Benjamin Grimm wrote: There's no reason at all for Jerry to continue any longer. He's a dead man walking. Oui. Maybe he's swallowing his pride and hanging on for the payout. I know I am.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 08:01 AM Re: K-Rod

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: To me the best parallel is Yogi Berra. His team needed disciplining and he lacked the juice and support from management to bring the hammer down on them, so he had become emasculated to the point of being a ghost in his own clubhouse. I get the idea nobody's captaining this ship right now. I'd love for them to use this as an excuse to get the uniform off of Rodriguez's back and quickly, but I don't see a scenario where that happens. I don't see a scenario either. I'm not sure I'd want to. The silliness of a closer aside, he's still one of the better relievers, and I don't quite believe the Mets have no money for a SP/2B/relievers next year. Centerfield wrote: If K-Rod goes, who closes games? Go in-house like Parnell? Or shop again for an "established" closer? Really, why care who closes? Hasn't it become clear that blowing your money on name-brand closers scarcely makes your games any more secure? Develop talented pitchers and put them in important spots. If they've lost control of the team, fretting over who closes is a deckchair/Titanic issue.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 12 2010 08:05 AM Re: K-Rod

Well, yeah, from Jerry's perspective there's no reason not to stay. I'd keep showing up and getting paid until they fired me, and then I'd stay home and get paid. You're right, I had forgotten about the required token minority interviews. What a farce.

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 08:11 AM Re: K-Rod

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Well, yeah, from Jerry's perspective there's no reason not to stay. I'd keep showing up and getting paid until they fired me, and then I'd stay home and get paid. You're right, I had forgotten about the required token minority interviews. What a farce. I know it's impossible to do anything in secret these days, but couldn't they interview people before actually firing Jerry? Reporters will speculate, but if only Omar/Jeff knows why say Bobby Valentine was in Citi Field..especially if they timed it for an ESPN game..

bmfc1 Aug 12 2010 08:13 AM Re: K-Rod

SurfingTheMets Jose Reyes' kids were in room during K-Rod incident. Reyes didn't want to comment on whether he was upset with K-Rod.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 08:28 AM Re: K-Rod

Ceetar wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Well, yeah, from Jerry's perspective there's no reason not to stay. I'd keep showing up and getting paid until they fired me, and then I'd stay home and get paid. You're right, I had forgotten about the required token minority interviews. What a farce. I know it's impossible to do anything in secret these days, but couldn't they interview people before actually firing Jerry? Reporters will speculate, but if only Omar/Jeff knows why say Bobby Valentine was in Citi Field..especially if they timed it for an ESPN game.. That would be nice.

MFS62 Aug 12 2010 08:31 AM Re: K-Rod

But if they give the job to another minority perosn, do they have to interview anyone else? Or Can they hire,say, an Alex Cora without actually interviewing him? Later

Benjamin Grimm Aug 12 2010 08:37 AM Re: K-Rod

MFS62 wrote: But if they give the job to another minority perosn, do they have to interview anyone else? I was wondering that too. Can they just anoint Razor Shines? Or do they have to grant a token interview to Chip Hale?

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 08:39 AM Re: K-Rod

Benjamin Grimm wrote: MFS62 wrote: But if they give the job to another minority perosn, do they have to interview anyone else? I was wondering that too. Can they just anoint Razor Shines? Or do they have to grant a token interview to Chip Hale? I'm almost positive they don't have to interview a 'majority' candidate if they hire a minority.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 12 2010 08:47 AM Re: K-Rod

I don't know guys. Santana gets accused of sexual assault, and we're like "That kind of sucks." And KRod throws a punch to a guy, and some of you want them to get rid of him? I think the sexual assault is worse. Now I know there is all kinds of strangeness around that particular incident with Santana that makes things questionable. But no one called for him to be cut, or the manager fired because of it. Seems like a lot of frustration boiling over.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 12 2010 08:51 AM Re: K-Rod

I was thinking the same thing. The main difference is one incident is "alleged" and the other one was witnessed by a room full of people. The other key difference is that Santana is more useful to the Mets than Rodriguez is. Most of us would like to see Frankie go anyway, so it's easy to call for his exit. I think he probably is tradeable. There are a lot of teams (about 30) who think a big name closer is necessary. I bet there are at least a few who are in a pennant race right now who'd like to add some strength to their pen for the next two months. If the Mets wanted to find a trade partner for Frankie, I bet they could.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 08:59 AM Re: K-Rod

The first incident wasn't just alleged, but dropped by the police due to lack of evidence and conflicting accounts from the complainant --- before we ever heard of it. Which isn't to say he isn't a douchepotato, or wasn't practicing douchecraft when he did whatever he did. The latter incident is spilling into our laps right here and now. Took place at Citi, it did. And that's right next door to where Shea used to be. My position --- and I know I'm losing it here --- is more for Jerry to go than Rodriguez.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2010 09:04 AM Re: K-Rod

Twas also off the field in the offseason. I was in favor of seeking a buyer for Rodriguez at the deadline whether he beat his family members or not: It just makes sense to considering his bloated contract and his overstated usefulness and the potential of him being a game-changer for a contending team might get us something while we can get it. I'd also have traded Feliciano. Of course that ship has sailed now.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 12 2010 09:04 AM Re: K-Rod

Ceetar wrote: Manuel uses him properly this probably never happens. My Manuel dislike has been around so long, I'll miss it like a phantom limb once he is finally dismissed. That said, this is a really fucking silly thing to say. When a guy has a bad day at the office, then goes home and hits his wife, they don't charge his boss with accessory-to-being-an-asshole. JCL wrote: If I'm the Mets, I am exploring every possibility to use this incident and others as a way to excise themselves from the asinine contract Omar gave to Rodriguez, if only because the budget seems like it's such a factor now. If they are not careful they will be on the hook for $29 million for this guy over the next 2 seasons, and nobody, much less a sociopath who beats his own family members, is worth that kind of scratch. Talk to his agent, the union, and work something out, but get this clown out of a Mets uniform and take whatever releif you can get from your own people. Agree entirely... only, if we're handing out armchair diagnoses, he's more "psychopath" than "sociopath."

metirish Aug 12 2010 09:09 AM Re: K-Rod

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I don't know guys. Santana gets accused of sexual assault, and we're like "That kind of sucks." And KRod throws a punch to a guy, and some of you want them to get rid of him? I think the sexual assault is worse. Now I know there is all kinds of strangeness around that particular incident with Santana that makes things questionable. But no one called for him to be cut, or the manager fired because of it. Seems like a lot of frustration boiling over. He's now being sued for that....good point btw....

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 09:11 AM Re: K-Rod

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Ceetar wrote: Manuel uses him properly this probably never happens. My Manuel dislike has been around so long, I'll miss it like a phantom limb once he is finally dismissed. That said, this is a really fucking silly thing to say. When a guy has a bad day at the office, then goes home and hits his wife, they don't charge his boss with accessory-to-being-an-asshole. Fan got hit by a bat sued Ramon Castro for handing it to Castillo. It was silly. I don't really care about the story. K-Rod's a hot head. Someone bail him out so he can pitch today.

MFS62 Aug 12 2010 09:22 AM Re: K-Rod

Did anyone even know they had a jailhouse at CitiField before this? In one "King of Queens" episode, they said there was one at Shea. They could be the first team to have their closer make the long walk from his jail cell to the mound!... That is assuming he gets one phone call a day and its not used up by the 9th inning. Later

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 09:29 AM Re: K-Rod

MFS62 wrote: Did anyone even know they had a jailhouse at CitiField before this? In one "King of Queens" episode, they said there was one at Shea. Phillies fans knew.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 12 2010 09:33 AM Re: K-Rod

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I don't know guys. Santana gets accused of sexual assault, and we're like "That kind of sucks." And KRod throws a punch to a guy, and some of you want them to get rid of him? I think the sexual assault is worse... Seems like a lot of frustration boiling over. Point granted about the frustration. But... um... to what sexual assault are you referring? The "strangeness" was enough that there are absolutely no criminal charges brought against Santana. He's now being civilly sued, for strict monetary redress of whatever wrong the claimant says he done her. K-Rod punched a family member-- male, female, child... does it REALLY matter?-- in front of numerous Met employees and their families. One happened; the other didn't, at least not in the eyes of law enforcement... and continues as a fishing expedition of sorts.

Ashie62 Aug 12 2010 09:40 AM Re: K-Rod

I'd love to see the Mets get some leverage here in trying to get the uniform off Frankie's back, but then there is that union to deal with. If the Mets were winning the douchbaggery of Frankie & Santana would draw far less attention. Maybe Frankie's father in law told him that he sucked? It does seem all threads lead to Jerry eventually and I just don't understand why he is still manager.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 12 2010 09:53 AM Re: K-Rod

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: I don't know guys. Santana gets accused of sexual assault, and we're like "That kind of sucks." And KRod throws a punch to a guy, and some of you want them to get rid of him? I think the sexual assault is worse... Seems like a lot of frustration boiling over. K-Rod punched a family member-- male, female, child... does it REALLY matter?-- Yeah, I think it does. In my eyes -- and I emphasize that this is just me -- throwing a punch at another guy is very different than punching a woman or a child. Not knowing anything about KRod's father-in-law, but when I was 28, my father-in-law could probably have kicked my butt.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 09:53 AM Re: K-Rod

The fact that this occurred at the park makes it hard not to think of the Carl Everett incident. I always thought that was Bobby at his best. He goes down to the station, bails his player out, and spoke to the press about the incident as much as he could. he even stood up fro the guy as much as hecould, and yet didn't excuse anything. For a brief time, the manager/front office partnership was working, and he understood that it was management's job to get rid of the player, but until they did, it was his job to --- somehow, someway --- find a way to bring the player to redemption as much as possible.

MFS62 Aug 12 2010 09:59 AM Re: K-Rod

Edgy DC wrote: For a brief time, the manager/front office partnership was working, and he understood that it was management's job to get rid of the player, but until they did, it was his job to --- somehow, someway --- find a way to bring the player to redemption as much as possible. Even Ed Bouchee got more chances to play in the majors (scroll down to 1958): http://www.meetup.com/phillies-7/messag ... ad=2759318 Later

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 10:10 AM Re: K-Rod

The Queens Courier's Mets story today: It Wouldn't Kill The Mets To Develop A Little Attitude

metsguyinmichigan Aug 12 2010 10:18 AM Re: K-Rod

AP saying he's suspended for two games.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2010 10:19 AM Re: K-Rod

Igarashi called up, K-Rod suspended by the team for 2 days unpaid.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 10:22 AM Re: K-Rod

Sheesh, I'd go at least five games and force him to make an apology to his family, his teammates, the fans, the organization, the guys from the pipefitters union... and make him do it naked. Then I'd make Jerry do the same thing.

TransMonk Aug 12 2010 10:23 AM Re: K-Rod

This whole thing is pretty ridiculous...sad and embarassing.

bmfc1 Aug 12 2010 10:24 AM Re: K-Rod

Not suspended: "placed on restricted list." Whatever that means. He doesn't get paid either way.

metsmarathon Aug 12 2010 10:29 AM Re: K-Rod

to me, this story reeks of piling on and advantage taking. especially the tim smith writeup of it. "The alleged actions go beyond baseball. They defy human decency." are you fucking kidding me? he scuffled with, and punched once, a 53 year old man, his father in law. he didn't kick a child, or throw an old geezer down a flight of stairs. or grope some chick. seriously, where is tim smith when any other athlete who isn't a hothead playing for a team that seems in disarray with a whole mess of riled up disgruntled fans looking for blood - oh, and he's the fucking overpaid closer too, so nobody likes him anyway - gets into a fight, or a scuffle, with another man after an undisclosed argument, and we don't even know who actually started the fucking thing? where is tim smith whenever an athlete actually goes and hits a woman or child, or sexually assaults one, or, you know, goes for a nice drive while drunk? where is his scathing writeup then? hell. where was he when frankie got into a scuffle earlier this year with randy niemann. randy's actually older than frankie's father in law. didn't that defy human decency back then, or is this only worse cos the fans are more pissy? its also kindof funny to me that tim smith also appears to be the regular boxing writer. in boxing the two men are punching each other for no good reason, so that makes it far more civilized. but that detracts from my larger point. shame on frankie for getting his stupid ass into a fight, and for throwing and landing a punch against his father in law. poor show. was he pummeling his father in law? mercilessly beating him into a pulp? kicking and screaming and yelling racial epithets? did he pick up one of reyes' kids and swing him around like a weapon? if he was in a bar and got into an ill-advised fight with another patron who happened to be 53 years old, would he still be a sociopath, or would the presence of alcohol turn him into just a dumb jock? guffaw guffaw move on. i don't excuse it, and i sure as hell don't like it. but lets not make him out to be some sort of monster who is a blight on the face of humanity as a whole.

metsmarathon Aug 12 2010 10:29 AM Re: K-Rod

Edgy DC wrote: Sheesh, I'd go at least five games and force him to make an apology to his family, his teammates, the fans, the organization, the guys from the pipefitters union... and make him do it naked. Then I'd make Jerry do the same thing. you just want to see frankie and jerry naked.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 10:33 AM Re: K-Rod

Oh, I've seen it. Jerry's looked more or less naked to me for the last eight weeks.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 12 2010 10:37 AM Re: K-Rod

"And in these dreams of yours... is he chuckling? Is he angry? Is he... your father?"

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 12 2010 10:58 AM Re: K-Rod Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2010 11:06 AM

Sherman calls out the Wilpons. I get the general message, and I don't disagree... but it's a little confused, and I think he must have Jeff mistaken with someone who isn't Jeff. Hey, Jeff Wilpon. Yeah, you. It is time to come out of hiding. This is your team, your organization. And it has again spiraled from just a disappointment to an embarrassment. This is not a team owned by a faceless corporation. This is family ownership. It is your family, Jeff. And at some point, you can’t shield yourself with spokespeople and excuses and sparse words parsed by your p.r. apparatus. Jeff, you need to go face the media today and explain why it is that the franchise you run seems to have a sickness about it in which the team cannot help but crawl into the fetal position annually and the personnel you hire so often finds a way to humiliate you, your dad and the organization you own. This cannot be Omar Minaya’s job today or Jerry Manuel or a spokesman. Your fans are angry, dispirited. They want to know, among other things, why nothing effective has been done to control Francisco Rodriguez’s temper. This might be his worst act – punching his father-in-law the face and getting arrested – but this was not his first. It is your curse, Jeff, to run an inferior organization in the same town as the Yankees. But the comparisons are going to come. And so we think of your out-of-control closer and Mariano Rivera. Maybe it should have told the Mets something that at the 2007 All-Star Game in San Francisco, the usually staid Rivera made one request: Don’t put his locker anywhere near K-Rod’s. (Ed. note-- That they shouldn't sign Rivera?) But the contract was signed by the Mets after that season. There really is nothing to do now, Jeff, except try to gain control of Rodriguez, the whole clubhouse and – really – the whole organization. Was your father’s out-of-touch remarks last week really the feeling of the family? You are doing a great job. By what measure? The team isn’t winning. Players are embarrassing you and the organization. Attendance is down. If you were doing any better, they would have to board up Citi Field. There is much to be done, beginning with a serious self-analysis of everything in the organization; the kind of self-analysis that the son of another rich man, Jimmy Dolan, seems incapable of undertaking. But that is a big picture thing. In the small picture, Jeff, you need to go address your clubhouse today. If you really do have passion for running this franchise, show it. You have allowed an atmosphere for too long that is too lenient on the players. Forgive the cliché, but the inmates do really run your asylum. Go tell your players today that it is unacceptable for players who are challenged to keep their on-base percentage above .300 to demand trades. Remind your players that once they sign up with the organization, they represent the organization at all times; whether it is Johan Santana on a tennis court or Francisco Rodriguez with his father-in-law. Then, Jeff, it is time to go face the media. Can you talk from the heart? I don’t know. You seem to feel persecuted and angry in such situations; as if the world does not see the genius of how your family has run the Mets. But if this organization really is in your blood and its missteps – on and off the field – really do hurt you then let your fans know. Or is that just something you say – or your p.r. people say – as nonsense spin you feed your most faithful followers. You need to project leadership, passion and accountability today. Tell us what you really think of Jerry Manuel and Omar Minaya. Tell us why you think your roster has had a glass jaw for several years, going down and staying down when the season got tough. Tell us what the real financial standing of your family is and what you imagine doing with the payroll in the near future. Tell us what you plan to do to regain control of your clubhouse. Jeff, you cannot solve all of your organization’s issues today; those have been years in the making. But you can begin to let the fans know that the ultimate decision maker is not some Wizard of Oz, hiding behind the screen, counting the money, but not living and dying with all of this like your most loyal supporters. Of course, it has to be real. Everyone will see through you, Jeff, if you come out with a few memorized talking points and the passion of a stool. Throughout the ownership by your family there have been these embarrassing incidents involving your players, and on occasion your family has tried to publicly call an end to the nonsense. It can’t be words now, Jeff, or just an ersatz gesture. Either you really are in or not. Either you are ready to really lead or just hope the spin-men can get you through another day. Either you are ready to let another horrible day produced by more bad behavior from K-Rod be a starting point for a new way to run the organization in which you are publicly accountable or you should expect these humiliations to continue, the criticism to flow. Jeff, the fans need to know you care, for real. They need to know you are in charge. They need to know that you have a plan. They need to know you are as fed up with the losing and bad acts as they are. No more hiding. No more daddy saying what a great job you are doing. No more hand-holding by the p.r, gurus. If what K-Rod did is unacceptable to you and your organization come tell the world that, come tell the world what you plan to do about it.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 11:05 AM Re: K-Rod

Sheesh his point is fine but he really gets his facts muddled and doesn't care.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 12 2010 11:08 AM Re: K-Rod

He HAD to bring the MFYs into it? Of course, had this been Derek Jeter punching his mother and a kitten, the narrative would have been "Elderly woman attempts to injure Captain by hurling face at this throwing hand, Jeter fends off beast." Instead, we get what is basically Christmas for Bob Klapisch.

TransMonk Aug 12 2010 11:09 AM Re: K-Rod

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 12 2010 11:10 AM Re: K-Rod

It really kind of sounds like he got drunk before he wrote this.

G-Fafif Aug 12 2010 11:14 AM Re: K-Rod

Do we know anything about the family dynamic between Rodriguez and his father-in-law? All temper, usage and contract issues aside, how do we know how much or how little this guy provoked his son-in-law? Could have been hothead vs. hothead building up over the years with accumulated baggage. Or it could have been the pitcher being, as described above, a sociopath. The phrase "family room" put me in mind of the Carl Everetts and their kids, too, but this isn't kids. These were two adults. It's irresponsible that Rodriguez would take it that far, but sometimes it takes two to tangle.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 12 2010 11:19 AM Re: K-Rod

Granted, we don't know the backstory, and there are plenty of other ways to provoke other than physically. The father-in-law wasn't charged with tangling, though, was he?

bmfc1 Aug 12 2010 11:22 AM Re: K-Rod

Andy Martino of The Daily News tweeted earlier that F. Rodriguez wasn't married so calling the other guy his "father-in-law" is incorrect. It doesn't change anything other than effect the charge.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2010 11:23 AM Re: K-Rod

When I think of Jeff Wilpon saying something was "unacceptable" it was his remarks on the bullpen following the 08 season. Before you knew it Omar had traded 5 guys for a washed-up closer with elbow trouble and committed millions to Rodriguez.

Vic Sage Aug 12 2010 11:23 AM Re: K-Rod

Jeff, the fans need to know you care, for real. They need to know you are in charge. They need to know that you have a plan. They need to know you are as fed up with the losing and bad acts as they are. show us the plan, Jeff. SHOW US THE PLAN!

G-Fafif Aug 12 2010 11:30 AM Re: K-Rod

bmfc1 wrote: Andy Martino of The Daily News tweeted earlier that F. Rodriguez wasn't married so calling the other guy his "father-in-law" is incorrect. It doesn't change anything other than effect the charge. If he comes back, Rodriguez will have to reconsider his pass list. Calling him "K-Rod" in the "news" reports, if that's what one wants to call anything relayed by Chris Carlin, lent an additional air of surreality to this. I think you drop the nickname when it comes down to charges of third-degree assault.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 12 2010 11:31 AM Re: K-Rod

I'm reserving judgment on K-Rod. There might very well be a back story to this; the father-in-law is pressing charges. I'm against K-Rod's contract, though. I'm not criticizing his performance. In fact, I think he's having a terrific season. But I'm against paying a pitcher $10M to throw 70 or 80 innings. In 2009, between K-Rod and Wagner's contracts, the Mets spent $20 million dollars on 70 innings pitched.

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 11:31 AM Re: K-Rod

bmfc1 wrote: Andy Martino of The Daily News tweeted earlier that F. Rodriguez wasn't married so calling the other guy his "father-in-law" is incorrect. It doesn't change anything other than effect the charge. who was it then? Girlfriend's father? Maybe Frankie asked for her hand in marriage and got shot down?

Ashie62 Aug 12 2010 11:32 AM Re: K-Rod

Vic Sage wrote: Jeff, the fans need to know you care, for real. They need to know you are in charge. They need to know that you have a plan. They need to know you are as fed up with the losing and bad acts as they are. show us the plan, Jeff. SHOW US THE PLAN! He would be more likely to show you some Wise snacks. And yes, I get the feeling the Wilpon's are detached from both the team and fans. Cue Mark Cuban.

Ashie62 Aug 12 2010 11:33 AM Re: K-Rod

Ceetar wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Andy Martino of The Daily News tweeted earlier that F. Rodriguez wasn't married so calling the other guy his "father-in-law" is incorrect. It doesn't change anything other than effect the charge. who was it then? Girlfriend's father? Maybe Frankie asked for her hand in marriage and got shot down? No, Frankie blew the proposal.

metirish Aug 12 2010 11:36 AM Re: K-Rod

LOL

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2010 11:37 AM Re: K-Rod

This 'restricted list' thing is just a time-buy; I wouldn't read much into the two-day part of it. Essentially it allows them to replace him on the roster immediately without having to go into the same burden of proof and union-backed appeal stuff that an actual suspension would entail. There'll be more to come on this front.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 12 2010 11:37 AM Re: K-Rod

Willets Point wrote: Did Frankie first load the bases before punching out his father-in-law? Speaking of LOLs... a sparkler, Mr. Point.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 12 2010 11:41 AM Re: K-Rod

Kevin Burkhardt now reporting that the father-in-law was taken away in an ambulance, and as far as they know, Frankie is still locked up in the Citi Field jail.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 12 2010 11:44 AM Re: K-Rod

Kevin: The team feels like it's kinda on the brink of falling apart.

Ashie62 Aug 12 2010 11:50 AM Re: K-Rod

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Kevin: The team feels like it's kinda on the brink of falling apart. just the brink?

G-Fafif Aug 12 2010 11:59 AM Re: K-Rod

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Kevin: The team feels like it's kinda on the brink of falling apart. That was actually an answer from Francoeur to Kevin's leading question about the clubhouse. Unmentioned: "The team would come together if I was playing every day."

Benjamin Grimm Aug 12 2010 12:02 PM Re: K-Rod

I think Jeff Francoeur's father-in-law should steer clear for a while.

G-Fafif Aug 12 2010 12:03 PM Re: K-Rod

Frenchy would make the perp walk smiling, and be a great influence on the jailhouse.

metsmarathon Aug 12 2010 12:07 PM Re: K-Rod

what sounds worse? third-degree assault, or misdemeanor assault? also, the mets would be foolish to have allowed the "father in law" to leave the premises in anything other than an ambulance. furthermore, the "father in law" would have been foolish to leave the premises in anything other than an ambulance if he intended to subsequently press charges. my cynical side wonders if there will be a civil suit... just the brink. krod falling apart =/= the team falling apart. dwright and jrey duking it out in the trainers room after a game would = the team falling apart. conversely, hblan taking a t-shirt cannon to oper's nether-regions would be the beginnings of a wonderful new era in team unity.

G-Fafif Aug 12 2010 12:11 PM Re: K-Rod

metsmarathon wrote: hblan taking a t-shirt cannon to oper's nether-regions. I fear Ollie's nether regions would be anywhere his ERA would be below 5.00.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 12 2010 12:14 PM Re: K-Rod

Frankie, just 15 to 20 minutes ago, was taken from the holding cell and off to court. He gets credit for a Citi Field first: First Mets player to be imprisoned in the new ballpark!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2010 12:18 PM Re: K-Rod

I know this is all good fun but I really feel like this incident has made me more ashamed to be a Mets fan, and less enamored of whole concept of Mets fandom, than anything I can remember in years. I'm sure it's just the building up of things, the bad finishes, the disappointing effort, the complete lack of execution, the bunting, the Wilpons, whatever: I'm just sick and couldn;t give a shit.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 12:21 PM Re: K-Rod

Absofuckinglutely. I can swallow a lot of things --- foolish choices and failure --- but douchesauce on top of it all...

Willets Point Aug 12 2010 12:25 PM Re: K-Rod

But...but, he's not a real Met. See, this is how Yankees fans live with themselves.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 12 2010 12:27 PM Re: K-Rod

This has absolutely nothing to do with anything, really... but, um, that's a little unusual. How many major leaguers have converted to Santeria is impossible to say because most, aware of the stigma the religion has in the United States, refuse to talk about their faith. "It's like the forbidden fruit," said one player. "It's something personal. It's something you don't talk about." But among those who have acknowledged their devotion are Angels pitcher Francisco Rodriguez and Florida Marlins third baseman Miguel Cabrera -- both Venezuelan -- and the White Sox's Cuban-born pitcher Jose Contreras, all of whom have been All-Stars and won World Series rings. Others, such as Cincinnati Reds shortstop Alex Gonzalez and Chicago Cubs infielder Ronny Cedeno, have experimented with it. "It's something beautiful," said Contreras, who became a babalao, or Santeria high priest, before defecting from Cuba in 2002. "And it helps me a lot. It gives me peace and tranquillity, but more than that." Rodriguez, who points to the heavens after each save, also says Santeria brought him a calmness on the field. "I'm not trying to do it to help me," he said. "I've been with [Santeria] for a while. I like it. [But] I'm Catholic too. You cannot do anything without God."

G-Fafif Aug 12 2010 12:28 PM Re: K-Rod

The footage of the car whisking Rodriguez from Citi Field to court looked like an outtake from one of Wright's Lincoln commercials.

Frayed Knot Aug 12 2010 12:29 PM Re: K-Rod

Willets Point wrote: But...but, he's not a real Met. See, this is how Yankees fans live with themselves. LOL -- That would be the major difference as to how something like this would be handled on the other side of town. Well, that plus the fact that the folks at YES would take their marching orders from MFY-mgmt as to what they were allowed to say about it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 12 2010 12:31 PM Re: K-Rod

G-Fafif wrote: The footage of the car whisking Rodriguez from Citi Field to court looked like an outtake from one of Wright's Lincoln commercials. Not Ford? Jail time is a pretty effective way to get Edge.

G-Fafif Aug 12 2010 12:37 PM Re: K-Rod

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: G-Fafif wrote: The footage of the car whisking Rodriguez from Citi Field to court looked like an outtake from one of Wright's Lincoln commercials. Not Ford? Jail time is a pretty effective way to get Edge. The game has officially been changed.

dgwphotography Aug 12 2010 12:39 PM Re: K-Rod

Let me get this straight - they couldn't align the bullpens correctly at first, but they made sure they had a holding cell in the stadium?

G-Fafif Aug 12 2010 12:46 PM Re: K-Rod

dgwphotography wrote: Let me get this straight - they couldn't align the bullpens correctly at first, but they made sure they had a holding cell in the stadium? I wonder if there's any angle at all from which security can see the entire holding cell, or if a little bit of it cuts off no matter where you're stationed.

themetfairy Aug 12 2010 01:47 PM Re: K-Rod

dgwphotography wrote: Let me get this straight - they couldn't align the bullpens correctly at first, but they made sure they had a holding cell in the stadium? And exactly why is this a surprise?

Willets Point Aug 12 2010 01:52 PM Re: K-Rod

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 01:58 PM Re: K-Rod

Got to like how he did it in blue with the orange outlines --- on seperate material which he adhered to his back. I never understand folks dropping three figures on a replica jersey of a big acquisition who hasn't done anything for their team yet.

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 02:02 PM Re: K-Rod

metsmarathon wrote: what sounds worse? third-degree assault, or misdemeanor assault? also, the mets would be foolish to have allowed the "father in law" to leave the premises in anything other than an ambulance. furthermore, the "father in law" would have been foolish to leave the premises in anything other than an ambulance if he intended to subsequently press charges. my cynical side wonders if there will be a civil suit... Probably. Unless they make up. If not, a suit, custody, etc. Gonna get messy.

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 02:03 PM Re: K-Rod

Edgy DC wrote: Got to like how he did it in blue with the orange outlines --- on seperate material which he adhered to his back. I never understand folks dropping three figures on a replica jersey of a big acquisition who hasn't done anything for their team yet. If you've got the money I guess. Could buy it second-hand on the internet too. Frankie's not quite a new acquisition though, He's been here long enough to be a contributing factor.. The could of Bay jerseys out there though..

G-Fafif Aug 12 2010 02:04 PM Re: K-Rod

Edgy DC wrote: I never understand folks dropping three figures on a replica jersey of a big acquisition who hasn't done anything for their team yet. I agree -- Graiffen's been nothing but a bust.

86-Dreamer Aug 12 2010 02:15 PM Re: K-Rod

Unfortunately, it looks like this may be more than a dust-up between two adult men. Frankie may have some things in common with Bret Myers. From the ESPN account http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/ ... id=5457861 : During the arraignment, the judge, the Honorable Mary R. O'Donoghue, ordered two orders of protection -- one for Rodriguez's wife Daian Pena and one for his father-in-law. The district attorney described the incident to the judge and said that other violent episodes between Rodriguez and his common-law wife are being investigated in Venezuela and California.

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 02:31 PM Re: K-Rod

Certainly doesn't sound good. Still wonder what the provocation was. I can't see that Frankie was just pissed off for no reason and stormed into the family area and asked his wife to get her father and just started beating on him without instigation.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 12 2010 02:33 PM Re: K-Rod

Ceetar wrote: Certainly doesn't sound good. Still wonder what the provocation was. I can't see that Frankie was just pissed off for no reason and stormed into the family area and asked his wife to get her father and just started beating on him without instigation. What. The. Fuck. Listen to Beltran. "No one should act like that. It doesn't matter if the team did whatever it did. No one should act like that."

batmagadanleadoff Aug 12 2010 02:34 PM Re: K-Rod

Because an admission and an apology absolves a multi-million dollar a year athlete of anything: Jose Reyes wrote: "I don't know exactly what happened," Reyes said. "You don't want to see that happen, especially here at the ballpark. I hope he comes clean about what happened because we need him here." http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/ ... id=5457861

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 02:34 PM Re: K-Rod

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ceetar wrote: Certainly doesn't sound good. Still wonder what the provocation was. I can't see that Frankie was just pissed off for no reason and stormed into the family area and asked his wife to get her father and just started beating on him without instigation. What. The. Fuck. Listen to Beltran. "No one should act like that. It doesn't matter if the team did whatever it did. No one should act like that." not condoning/judging. I'm just nosy at this point.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 12 2010 02:38 PM Re: K-Rod

"Maybe it's a distraction we need," Francoeur said. "Not to say it's a good thing. But maybe at the end of the day we can turn it into a positive. I know for [K-Rod] it's between him and his family." http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/ ... id=5457861 This cocksucker doesn't know how to shut up. If words were hits, this guy'd be the MVP. I've never heard of such a crappy player that yapped as much as Frenchy.

Ceetar Aug 12 2010 02:39 PM Re: K-Rod

batmagadanleadoff wrote: "Maybe it's a distraction we need," Francoeur said. "Not to say it's a good thing. But maybe at the end of the day we can turn it into a positive. I know for [K-Rod] it's between him and his family." http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/ ... id=5457861 This cocksucker doesn't know how to shut up. If words were hits, this guy'd be the MVP. I've never heard of such a crappy player that yapped as much as Frenchy. Being on the bench just gives him _more_ time to run his mouth.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 02:44 PM Re: K-Rod

I'm certainly of the hope that Rodriguez is the big problem and it gives the team nothing but relief to see him get his. I doubt it shakes out that way, but we'll see.

metirish Aug 12 2010 03:42 PM Re: K-Rod

I really hate that this punk is representing the team I love, his performence on the mound I can excuse but this?, bollox.

Zvon Aug 12 2010 03:47 PM Re: K-Rod

Somehow I did not hear about this til within the last hour. Lots to read here. Right off the top I'll say this is pretty fucked up bad stuff about (or maybe just relating to) the Mets.

Fman99 Aug 12 2010 07:54 PM Re: K-Rod

Willets Point wrote: Did Frankie first load the bases before punching out his father-in-law? Genius.

Fman99 Aug 12 2010 08:03 PM Re: K-Rod

This whole thread is great -- it's the reason I hang around this joint. It's the perfect mix of insight, smarmy jokes and scathing contempt for management. It's like carpooling with the Manson family.

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 08:22 PM Re: K-Rod

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Got to like how he did it in blue with the orange outlines --- on seperate material which he adhered to his back. I never understand folks dropping three figures on a replica jersey of a big acquisition who hasn't done anything for their team yet. If you've got the money I guess. Could buy it second-hand on the internet too. Frankie's not quite a new acquisition though, He's been here long enough to be a contributing factor.. The could of Bay jerseys out there though.. But he hasn't really been a contributing factor, unless you mean contributing to embarassment. Or contributing to the bloated payroll. He's been a standard issue closer --- pitching more or less well, but not so well that it justifies building the game strategy around him the way they do.

themetfairy Aug 12 2010 08:34 PM Re: K-Rod

Fman99 wrote: It's like carpooling with the Manson family. Here's our new t-shirt tag line!

Edgy DC Aug 12 2010 10:40 PM Re: K-Rod

The Second Spitter Aug 13 2010 02:28 AM Re: K-Rod

Here's a little number I'd like to dedicate to Frankie; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7kYVjL2lps (If I had more time I'd have a go at writing a parody).

G-Fafif Aug 13 2010 04:57 AM Re: K-Rod

It's a family affair, according to the Snooze: K-Rod is out at home - and he's not welcome at Citi Field either. Hot-headed Mets hurler Francisco Rodriguez was suspended without pay for two games and barred from his Long Island home Thursday after the brutal beatdown of his father-in-law. The one-sided fight began when Carlos Peña challenged Rodriguez's manhood and insulted his mother after the crazed closer began shouting about the latest Mets loss, police sources told the Daily News. "Stop acting like a baby," one source quoted Peña as telling the volatile Rodriguez inside a Citi Field lounge designated for players' families. "Man up, and play better." K-Rod's mother told Peña to keep his mouth shut, prompting a screaming match in Spanish between the pair, the source said. "You can't talk to my mami that way!" Rodriguez shouted before landing the first of many punches in the Wednesday night mismatch. The 6-feet, 195-pound hard-throwing righty pinned the defenseless Peña against a wall outside the Mets' clubhouse while raining blows on his head and face, prosecutors said. Stadium security, after hearing the 53-year-old's howls, yanked the four-time All-Star away, officials said. The beating occurred in full view of Peña's common-law wife, along with the children and girlfriends of other players. K-Rod left the ballpark in his white Lamborghini, returning 15 minutes later - only after a Mets employee reached him by cell phone. "He slapped his father-in-law around and then bolted," a police source said. "People were shouting after him, 'Hey, you can't leave,' but he got in his car and left...Dumb on and off the field, I guess."

Edgy DC Aug 13 2010 07:15 AM Re: K-Rod

Wow, the cop is a fan.

HahnSolo Aug 13 2010 07:25 AM Re: K-Rod

dumber to leave the scene, or dumber to come right back?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 13 2010 08:22 AM Re: K-Rod

Edgy DC wrote: Wow, the cop is a fan. ?

Edgy DC Aug 13 2010 08:36 AM Re: K-Rod

He described Rodriguez as "dumb on the field." Agree or disagree with the opinion, it suggests a more-than-passing familiartiy with the team and the guy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 13 2010 08:45 AM Re: K-Rod

Kinda. I guess. Maybe. But if I had to guess, I'd say that most people who are merely familiar with him in passing probably feel that way too, if only because of the dancing and pointing. Oh, and then there's this from the Deadspin. Out-of-context (sorta) fun! He's just a passionate guy "If he feels strongly enough about something he'll voice his opinion. Sometimes that's a fault, sometimes it's not a fault." -Brian Schneider ... "That's my way. People can say I'm arrogant, a jerk, anything they want to say. But me, I'm going to live my world. I don't care what people think or say." -Francisco Rodriguez I, um, walked into a door "There was a misunderstanding. We talked about it and it's over. Sometimes there are misunderstandings. You talk it through and that's the end of it." -Randy Niemann "We were just fooling around. We were just kidding with each other." -Francisco Rodriguez

Edgy DC Aug 13 2010 08:52 AM Re: K-Rod

I just thought it was a comically inappropriate thing for a cop to say. It's like a press conference where a cop says, "After a brief pursuit, detectives were able to apprehend the fat ugly guy, but the sissy gay one got away."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 13 2010 10:54 AM Re: K-Rod

Fox Sports presents more details... and whiffs of past incidents. When Francisco Rodriguez was acquired by the Mets before the start of the 2009 season, there was no indication that "K-Rod," as the pitcher is known, had a history of any trouble. At Thursday's arraignment on charges that he beat up his girlfriend's 53-year-old father, Carlos Pena, in the bowels of Citi Field the night before, a Queens prosecutor told the court that this was the third allegation of family violence against Rodriguez. In state Supreme Court, prosecutor Kirsten Kane didn't elaborate other than to say one of the reputed incidents occurred in Venezuela and the other in Los Angeles. A law-enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation said Rodriguez's girlfriend, Daian Pena, told investigators Rodriguez beat her after an argument when they lived in California and he played for the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Pena, the mother of their twin one-year-old daughters, didn't report the incident, and the official didn't know when it allegedly took place. Details about the alleged Venezuela incident remain a mystery. Rodriguez's attorney didn't immediately respond to a call seeking comment. Citing a "history of violence" and saying that Pena and her father were "very fearful" of Rodriguez, Kane sought to have the athlete's bail set at $5,000, but Judge Mary O'Donoghue denied the request and released Rodriguez on his own recognizance. The judge issued an order of protection barring the pitcher from having contact with his girlfriend or her father. (Ed. Including kids, as well... at least until the next court date.) According to a law-enforcement official with knowledge of the incident, the motive for the alleged attack was that Rodriguez believed that Carlos Pena had used disparaging language to describe Rodriguez's mother. In court, Rodriguez spoke only to say that he understood the terms of the restraining order. He didn't enter a plea. After being released, he briskly left the courthouse and climbed into a black Lincoln Navigator as reporters chased after him. He wasn't arraigned in time to make the team's noon-start game against the Colorado Rockies. The Mets won without their star relief pitcher, 4-0. It turned out it wouldn't have mattered because the Mets announced on Thursday that Rodriguez was suspended without pay for two games. Having signed a three-year, $37 million contract in 2008, that would mean he'd forfeit $141,975. On Wednesday at about 10:20 p.m., after the Mets lost a game to the Rockies, Pena and her father were inside a room at Citi Field designated for family members. Rodriguez entered the room and asked Pena to bring her father into the hallway outside the room. When her father entered the hallway, Rodriguez is alleged to have pinned him against a wall and punched him repeatedly in the face and chest with both hands, the prosecution said. The victim suffered injuries to his left eye, cheekbone and the back of his head. Kane said it required several security guards to pull the 6-foot, 195-pound 28-year-old off the man. Mets officials called New York Police Department supervisors who were on hand working a security detail at the stadium, but by the time police responded a few minutes later Rodriguez had left the stadium, the law-enforcement official said. A Mets official then called Rodriguez on his cellphone and the pitcher drove back to the stadium, where he was placed under arrest and held overnight in the NYPD's new holding-cell facility in the stadium. Afterward, Rodriguez's attorney, Christopher Booth, declined to discuss the specifics of what happened, asking people to respect his client's privacy.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 13 2010 11:10 AM Re: K-Rod Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 13 2010 11:16 AM

I'm not making any predictions ... but the Wilpons really loathe this sort of stuff. (They move Ordonez when he call Mets fans "stupid" but before that, the just about crappiest hitter in franchise history can take all the at bats in the world.)

Edgy DC Aug 13 2010 11:15 AM Re: K-Rod

They should loathe this. I know I do.

Willets Point Aug 13 2010 11:18 AM Re: K-Rod

They also traded Kevin Mitchell because they thought he was troublemaker from the 'hood.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 13 2010 11:28 AM Re: K-Rod

Yeah, I don't think they need to be apologizing for the Kevin Mitchell trade, even if you think they made it for the wrong reasons. I hope to hell they find a way to end the K-Rod Era.

batmagadanleadoff Aug 13 2010 03:23 PM Re: K-Rod

... and Kris Benson because his wife ... because his wife ... because his wife ...

Benjamin Grimm Aug 13 2010 03:42 PM Re: K-Rod

duan Aug 13 2010 03:44 PM Re: K-Rod

y'know what's worse. what's worse is that being a fucking obnoxious bully who beats people up isn't something that allows them to void his contract. Surely this should come under some clause of total wankerdom and they should just be able to throw him out. I could be wrong but NOTHING i've read has suggested that's even an option.

Edgy DC Aug 13 2010 04:08 PM Re: K-Rod

No, I'm guessing it's not. It'd be interesting if they tried.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 13 2010 04:11 PM Re: K-Rod

Was Michael Vick under contract with the Falcons when he had his legal trouble? Were they able to get out of it? Or did he get paid while he was in prison?

metsguyinmichigan Aug 13 2010 04:20 PM Re: K-Rod

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Was Michael Vick under contract with the Falcons when he had his legal trouble? Were they able to get out of it? Or did he get paid while he was in prison? I don't think NFL contracts are guaranteed. So if he couldn't play, he couldn't get paid.

Edgy DC Aug 13 2010 04:22 PM Re: K-Rod

Not a problem with the NFL. Salaries aren't guaranteed. They cut you, they don't owe you anymore. That's the Gene Upshaw legacy.

duan Aug 13 2010 04:28 PM Re: K-Rod

that's not right either.

metirish Aug 13 2010 05:19 PM Re: K-Rod

@lenno212: RT @therealarieber: Will K-Rod apologize to teammates tomorrow? "I don’t expect anything special,” Carlos Beltran says. #Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 13 2010 09:58 PM Re: K-Rod

Anger management and a return tomorrow.

Edgy DC Aug 13 2010 10:45 PM Re: K-Rod

duan wrote: that's not right either. It's a bloody crime.

SteveJRogers Aug 13 2010 11:12 PM Re: K-Rod

Edgy DC wrote: duan wrote: that's not right either. It's a bloody crime. People who prefer the NFL to MLB would disagree with you there. Especially considering how MLB fans tend to get all high and mighty on morality issues.

Edgy DC Aug 13 2010 11:23 PM Re: K-Rod

I don't care. It's wrong. That doesn't make me high and mighty. It makes me a guy with an opinion. The system is an unjust one. I have another opinion. You shouldn't generalize about baseball fans and football fans. The overlap is huge, for one.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 13 2010 11:36 PM Re: K-Rod

SteveJRogers wrote: Edgy DC wrote: duan wrote: that's not right either. It's a bloody crime. People who prefer the NFL to MLB would disagree with you there. Especially considering how MLB fans tend to get all high and mighty on morality issues. MLB fans who get high and mighty on morality issues are just as big a brand of blowhard as anyone else who gets high and mighty on morality issues. It's a travesty and the shame of Upshaw's reign (nevermind the tradeoffs in TV money he secured for the PA-- he did poorly by his players) that people who destroy their bodies for sport-- and who are compelled to play faster, harder, and more selflessly at every frigging turn by management and the press-- have non-guaranteed contracts.

metirish Aug 14 2010 03:07 PM Re: K-Rod

That's Rodriguez on the left Moving Van Wife K-Rod moves out, will seek anger management Brawling baseballer Francisco Rodriguez is out at home — and off to anger management. A stone-faced K-Rod showed up at Citi Field this afternoon to make his first public statement since allegedly assaulting the grandfather of his children and verbally lashing out at his girlfriend last week in a shocking dust up inside the clubhouse. The Venezuelan born relief pitcher stared straight ahead into a room packed with reporters as he apologized to Mets’ management – but not to his girlfriend Daian Peña or her 53-year-old father, Carlos. “First of all, I’m extremely sorry. I want to apologize to Fred Wilpon, Jeff Wilpon and Mr. Katz for the incident that happened Wednesday night. I want to apologize also to Mets fans, to my teammates,” said Rodriguez. “I want to apologize, of course to the front office for the embarrassment that I caused. And I’m looking forward to being a better person. Right now, the plan is I’m going to anger management program, and I can’t speak no further about the legal stuff that I’m going through right now. But I apologize.” Earlier today K-Rod moved out of the Long Island house that he shared with Peña, their one-year-old twins, and Carlos Peña. “His things are gone,” sobbed his teary-eyed girlfriend, after a moving van pulled up in front of the couple’s Long Island house and was loaded up with several large suitcases and bags. The van departed not long after – followed by two women in a taxi. “I can’t tell you if I’ve talked to him,” an emotional Peña told The Post, as she struggled to contain her emotion. The troubled couple’s relationship imploded after her father tried to intervene in a vicious fight between his daughter and Rodriguez at Citifield Wednesday night following a dismal loss by the Mets to Colorado. “You can’t talk to my daughter that way!” said Peña, as the combustible closer launched into a foulmouthed tirade against the mother of his children outside a room filled with players’ families. The hot-headed hurler allegedly attacked Peña, pummeling him with his fists and then banging the elder man’s head against a wall. Carlos Peña, who took out a restraining order against Rodriguez along with his daughter, said he was in a lot of pain. “I’m going to the hospital tomorrow,” he said from their Long Island house. The elder man said K-Rod had asked for his possessions. “He wanted his things, so we sent them to him.” At his arraignment in Queens court, Rodriguez pleaded not guilty to third-degree assault and second-degree harassment. He was released on $5,000 bail. The judge said the pitcher’s family was not safe at home, and issued the restraining orders. The ruling prevents him from entering the home or visiting their children without permission from Family Court. K-Rod was suspended for two games, but suiting up for the Mets today against Philadelphia. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/rod ... z0wcID1ZLX Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/rod ... z0wcI2BduU

batmagadanleadoff Aug 14 2010 03:37 PM Re: K-Rod

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/0 ... er_fr.html “Well, first of all, I’m extremely sorry,” he said before Saturday night’s game against Philadelphia. “Whatever it is that I did, I'm sorry for. I want to apologize to Fred Wilpon, Jeff Wilpon and Mr. Katz for the incident that happened Wednesday night. I want to apologize also to the Mets fans, to my teammates and I want to apologize, of course, to the front office for the embarrassing moment that I caused them. And I want to apologize to everybody else that I left out. Whatever it is that I did, I was wrong to do it and I won't do it again." "I would've left him a long time ago if it wasn't for all of his money", said Rodriguez's common law wife, Daian Peña.

DocTee Aug 14 2010 04:18 PM Re: K-Rod

Whatever it is that I did, I'm sorry for. Not exactly the most heartfelt apology I ever read. I would've left him a long time ago if it wasn't for all of his money Umm...Refreshingly honest?

metsmarathon Aug 14 2010 04:54 PM Re: K-Rod

it may be as much as he can/should say, with criminal charges still pending. he can't really say "i'm sorry i beat the shit out of the guy, without provocation" and then plead not guilty, can he?

Kong76 Aug 14 2010 04:57 PM Re: K-Rod

metirish wrote: That's Rodriguez on the left Looks like they just did a couple of bong hits. metirish wrote: Wife I'd go with a nice sun dress here if I knew the press was going to be snooping. Those doors probably cost more than anything I own.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 14 2010 07:49 PM Re: K-Rod

"I would've left him a long time ago if it wasn't for all of his money", said Rodriguez's common law wife, Daian Peña. C'mon, man. Do I have to, like, fact-check all your quotes now?

Zvon Aug 14 2010 07:54 PM Re: K-Rod

Kong76 wrote: metirish wrote: That's Rodriguez on the left Looks like they just did a couple of bong hits. lol. That would be my recommended advice to him for when he is around his wife and in-laws.

Ashie62 Aug 14 2010 08:38 PM Re: K-Rod

He couldn't even sack up to talk to his teammates. A total pussy. In just about any other line of work he would be fired. Stevie Jetes..Baseball fans are "high and mighty" get a grip.

Edgy DC Aug 14 2010 08:41 PM Re: K-Rod

Wait, we know he hasn't spoken to his teammates? Sometimes reading reports and then posts after them, I'm starting to feel like my head's been beaten agaisnt a wall piecing together what's really happened.

seawolf17 Aug 14 2010 09:08 PM Re: K-Rod

Ashie62 wrote: He couldn't even sack up to talk to his teammates. A total pussy. In just about any other line of work he would be fired. Perhaps in just about any other line of work he wouldn't still be owed eleventy kajillion dollars, though.

Ashie62 Aug 14 2010 09:22 PM Re: K-Rod

seawolf17 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: He couldn't even sack up to talk to his teammates. A total pussy. In just about any other line of work he would be fired. Perhaps in just about any other line of work he wouldn't still be owed eleventy kajillion dollars, though. For sure...The booth commented there was no apology given to teammates and those who were around. Darling talked about about his night in a Houston jail and how he did speak to the team.

PatchyFogg Aug 15 2010 05:50 AM Re: K-Rod

Since it was done on the day of his arraignment, I'll put it here: The audio of the 2-hour in-studio appearance that Mets beat reporter did with us on Thursday night is now up at http://sportstalk903.libsyn.com It's 2 hours of nothing but 100% commercial-free Mets talk. I hope you get a chance to listen and enjoy. Please tell some Mets fan friends.

Fman99 Aug 15 2010 06:12 AM Re: K-Rod

Kong76 wrote: Wife I'd go with a nice sun dress here if I knew the press was going to be snooping. Those doors probably cost more than anything I own. Seriously. Although my well-concealed common-law Hispanic girlfriend, "Fputa," is often known to hang out in the hot pants/ghetto tank combo.

G-Fafif Aug 15 2010 04:50 PM Re: K-Rod

The strangeness of being at Citi Field as F. Rodriguez returned, here.

Ashie62 Aug 15 2010 05:13 PM Re: K-Rod

Nice article. I had forgotten about Marge Schott. I wish David Wright could "rebrand" himself.

G-Fafif Aug 15 2010 05:37 PM Re: K-Rod

Ashie62 wrote: Nice article. I had forgotten about Marge Schott. I wish David Wright could "rebrand" himself. Thanks. And I guess "DW: Defensive Wizard" is out of the question at the moment.

Zvon Aug 15 2010 06:04 PM Re: K-Rod

G-Fafif wrote: The strangeness of being at Citi Field as F. Rodriguez returned, here. Great article and perspective.

duan Aug 16 2010 04:02 PM Re: K-Rod

how's about an apology to the person who you took your childish anger out on seriously, I've so little time for people who punch people that it's not true, it's a fucking coward who resorts to fists. we had a situation in our match on saturday where this lumbering prick punched one of our players because he didn't like the jostling he was getting. The guy was 30 or so and 6'2 the full back he punched was 5'7 and 20. The worst of it was I saw the coward looking to see was the ref watching before he did it - he saw that wasn't and then gave a young footballer a bloody mouth, nose and chipped a tooth. There's never a defense for physical violence, never.

metirish Aug 16 2010 04:06 PM Re: K-Rod

Duan, your team needs a Chopper Harris type to sort out that thug. Agree on what you said though.

metirish Aug 17 2010 07:12 AM Re: K-Rod

Mets person in the News...would be nice if there was a name to this "That was crazy, but this is crazier," Snooze has this According to page 41 of the Basic Agreement between MLB and the union, a team has 45 days from the incident in question to file a grievance against a player. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... z0wrtqL6kz Snooze has the mugshot and Rodriguez looks like he's in the Taliban

duan Aug 17 2010 04:21 PM Re: K-Rod

metirish wrote: Duan, your team needs a Chopper Harris type to sort out that thug. Agree on what you said though. I'd already picked up a booking in the first half, so any tackles I made had to be clean and crisp!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 11 2010 09:51 AM Re: K-Rod

"Why's Abuelo suing Papa?" "Long story, mi amor. Long story."