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Castillo "can't be here any more"

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 14 2010 08:29 AM

That can be arranged, you sad, .320-OBing bastich. You'll want to maintain a nice hold on your luggage, so lift with your legs, and

USE

TWO

HANDS.


(Holy shit... do these guys think this league is some sort of tenure-based fraternity?)

Edgy DC
Aug 14 2010 08:33 AM
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Not to defend Castillo, but that's a dropped popup of an article.

MFS62
Aug 14 2010 08:35 AM
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"I can't be here anymore," the second baseman told The Post before last night's series opener against the Phillies at Citi Field. "I know I'm not going to be here next year."


Now, if he can predict the team willing to take him, it would make Omar's job a heck of a lot easier.

Later

dgwphotography
Aug 14 2010 09:08 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
(Holy shit... do these guys think this league is some sort of tenure-based fraternity?)


As long as Omar is around, yeah...

Frayed Knot
Aug 14 2010 09:53 AM
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dgwphotography wrote:
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
(Holy shit... do these guys think this league is some sort of tenure-based fraternity?)


As long as Omar is around, yeah...


Considering that Castillo currently is sitting in favor of a guy who's hitting .183 for the season and is 4 for his last 53, if there is a tenure system no one seems to have told the guy making out the lineup cards.

Edgy DC
Aug 14 2010 09:54 AM
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And who wouldn't be frustrated in such a benching?

metsguyinmichigan
Aug 14 2010 10:31 AM
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Well, on Castillo's behalf, what is he supposed to say? "No, I suck and I deserved to be benched?" Those guys just don't think that way.

metirish
Aug 14 2010 10:56 AM
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I'm not understanding the benching at all. This team still thinks itself as in contention right?

Edgy DC
Aug 14 2010 11:14 AM
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Yeah, sometimes you feel like they missed part of the story.

Zvon
Aug 14 2010 12:50 PM
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So the two guys who most fans say should be dealt say they want to be dealt.
And they are not the greatest of commodities.
At least people are agreeing on stuff, and stuff.
I'm not even considering Ollie in that equation.

Castillo, imo, was coming around to the point where he was hitting the ball as well as he is able.
His fielding was a lil bit sporadic but not overly so. He even made some real fine plays at 2nd right before
T-boy came up. He looked like he was finding his groovethang.
I guess we don't want that, huh?

I like Tejeda alot and I like him up on the club for a few reasons, but I'm really surprised,
being how Castillo was progressing, that it was to dethrone Luis at this time. This does not make sense.
Its like Chewbacca living on Endor. Ladies and gentlemen, none of this makes sense!

If the front office is going into "next season mode", it makes sense.
But hey, "Don't give up on us baaaaby,..."

Nymr83
Aug 14 2010 03:26 PM
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Tejada has superior range and, especially if you've given up on the season, you'd like to see him get some ABs to help you determine how high a priority the position should be in the offseason

metirish
Aug 14 2010 03:37 PM
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Try telling R.A. Dickey that they have given up on the season, I got chills listening to him address the stadium last night when Burkhardt had him on the post-game.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 14 2010 03:45 PM
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"If they think that [Tejada's] the best player, that's OK," Castillo said. "I just don't want to be a backup when I've been playing every day for my whole career." Outfielder Jeff Francoeur supported the team's decision to play the rookie Tejada: "Tejada's below average stats shouldn't reduce his playing time. He's made so many outs already, you know that he's due for a hot streak. The more outs a player makes, the more likely that his next at bat will be a hit. We can't afford to miss out on Tejada's next hits now that the pennant race is heating up".


http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/wha ... XoSUP0200K

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 14 2010 03:53 PM
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Jeff Francoeur wrote:
The more outs a player makes, the more likely that his next at bat will be a hit. We can't afford to miss out on Tejada's next hits now that the pennant race is heating up.


Not a whole lot of wisdom there.

metirish
Aug 14 2010 03:56 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Jeff Francoeur wrote:
The more outs a player makes, the more likely that his next at bat will be a hit. We can't afford to miss out on Tejada's next hits now that the pennant race is heating up.


Not a whole lot of wisdom there.



No wisdom at all but it's brilliant from Jeff , quote of the season maybe.

DocTee
Aug 14 2010 04:15 PM
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That quote has to be a joke, right?

Number 6
Aug 14 2010 04:28 PM
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Shenanigans on that quote. Love it anyway.

Frayed Knot
Aug 14 2010 04:40 PM
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Number 6 wrote:
Shenanigans on that quote. Love it anyway.


Yeah, but while we certainly don't want to discourage sarcasm around here, putting a made-up quote in a quote box with an accompanying link implying that's where it came from is something I think we'd be better off not doing.

Zvon
Aug 14 2010 07:50 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Number 6 wrote:
Shenanigans on that quote. Love it anyway.


Yeah, but while we certainly don't want to discourage sarcasm around here, putting a made-up quote in a quote box with an accompanying link implying that's where it came from is something I think we'd be better off not doing.


OO, thats a Bozo no-no.

I take what you guys say as gospel when it's posted as a quote or something like that.

I can see me picking up the phone, calling one of my brothers and saying,"Hey, you'll never guess what Frenchy said today...," while I peruse through the link.

lol.

Edgy DC
Aug 14 2010 08:46 PM
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Are we supporting the idea of giving up? Really?

OlerudOwned
Aug 14 2010 08:53 PM
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I have far less resentment toward Castillo for sucking but still wanting to continue his livelihood than I do toward Minaya for giving him a four-year contract that I feel I can pretty honestly say was universally panned at the time by anyone with a lick of sense.

Frayed Knot
Aug 14 2010 10:14 PM
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Now all we have to do is find a 2Bman who's, y'know, ... better.
Maybe the one we're trying now will be some day but he's not yet.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 14 2010 10:32 PM
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"If they think that [Tejada's] the best player, that's OK," Castillo said. "I just don't want to be a backup when I've been playing every day for my whole career." Outfielder Jeff Francoeur supported the team's decision to play the rookie Tejada: "Tejada's below average stats shouldn't reduce his playing time. He's made so many outs already, you know that he's due for a hot streak. The more outs a player makes, the more likely that his next at bat will be a hit. We can't afford to miss out on Tejada's next hits now that the pennant race is heating up".


http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/wha ... XoSUP0200K


"Because", Francoeur added, "if Tejada gets benched for struggling for two weeks, what chance do I have of playing?"


Ashie62
Aug 14 2010 11:43 PM
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That TV show and the game were the bomb.

G-Fafif
Aug 15 2010 12:15 AM
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Can't Frenchy, Luis and Ollie be handed separate "itineraries" for the next road trip that take them into an easily locked closet instead of the team flight to Houston? Surely it would take them a while to figure out they weren't at an airport.

Nymr83
Aug 15 2010 01:04 AM
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Outfielder Jeff Francoeur supported the team's decision to play the rookie Tejada: "Tejada's below average stats shouldn't reduce his playing time. He's made so many outs already, you know that he's due for a hot streak. The more outs a player makes, the more likely that his next at bat will be a hit. We can't afford to miss out on Tejada's next hits now that the pennant race is heating up"


when i read this i was expecting to see a link not to The Post , but to The Onion

Zvon
Aug 15 2010 01:18 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Are we supporting the idea of giving up? Really?

Not me.
Not at all.
If Omar and Jeff are I think they should just say it.
I still won't give up til they are officially out of it but I will pin more of my hopes in a future area.

Ashie62 wrote:
That TV show and the game were the bomb.


Shoot, I forgot that was also a TV show.
I loved that game! And the show.
That and Mousetrap would keep my outta my moms hair for hours.

Ceetar
Aug 15 2010 10:17 AM
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What elseis Castillo supposed to think really? The team seemingly has tried to trade him every offseason and every trade deadline. The fans rail against him at every chance, despite the only real sin he's committed is a dropped pop-up against the evil empire, which is bad, but they hated him before that. He's been benched for a rookie that can't hit, who while might be his superior defensively, is nto without his defensive flaws. He certainly can't feel wanted and welcome. He was OPSing .890 in August before the decision to sit him was made.

The team has subtly given up. I'm not sure they were ever serious about _really_ trying to compete this season anyway. Fernando Martinez is another one. I think there were better temporary options in that regard too.

Personally, I never hated the contract. I figured 6million wasn't too much to shuffle away in the 4th year if he did indeed decline to uselessness. He was healthy last year, tripping down the stairs not withstanding, and it's not his knees or legs this year that hurt him, but a fluke bone bruise on his foot. I get that he's not a powerful guy, but I just don't get why people really hate him and want/wanted him gone in favor of guys like Ruben Gotay, Argenis Reyes, etc.

Ashie62
Aug 15 2010 11:19 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with giving Tejada an extended look.

Edgy DC
Aug 15 2010 11:31 AM
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It seemingly has caused the Mets to be a worse team.

Ceetar
Aug 15 2010 12:04 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with giving Tejada an extended look.


Some would say that you could ruin the kids confidence by having him flail around at quality pitching and batting .150. It's getting to the point where you kinda wish we'd kept Raul Valdes around so we could pinch hit for Tejada with him.

Zvon
Aug 15 2010 12:14 PM
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I like Tejeda up because I hope that Castillo gets with him a lot and imparts stuff to him, and stuff.
Like Beltran did with Pagan.
Playing experience is one thing. Advice from experienced players is another.
And I don't mean just a word here or there. I mean a day to day dialogue.
I saw them talking on the bench after T-Boy made that ugly error last game and
I thought, yea, this is what I want to see.

And Tejeda should get playing time, sure, but in a role of frequent relief for Luis.
And he can be a late inning D guy.

With Castillo's issues I would not mind seeing him sit out 2 games a week.
Like he plays 3 or 4 games in a row then sits one.
Keeps him fresh and rested. Keep his foot bottoms free of abuse.
If he gets super hot then Jerry can ride him like a reliever.
Same goes for T-Boy. If he goes 4 for 4, start him the next day too.

If Luis starts making an error a game and stops making contact, then there's T-Boy, ready to
get extended playing time. Yay!

If Jerry is gonna be a hot hand manager, then play the right cards.
That contract is Omar's problem and as stupid as it was, I do not hold it against Castillo in the least.
It's what have you done for me lately, and Castillo was doing stuff.

Ceetar wrote:
The team has subtly given up.

Shook my magic 8 ball on this:
ALL INDICATIONS POINT TO YES.

Ashie62
Aug 15 2010 01:54 PM
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Hell, Lets complicate it further and bring up Reese Havens 9/1. The Mets should be out of it by then.

Edgy DC
Aug 15 2010 02:04 PM
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Maybe, but that doesn't go far toward explaining what's going on with Tejada now.

He hasn't really even hit much in AAA this season.

Ashie62
Aug 15 2010 02:29 PM
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Surprising to me, Tejada has two more runs scored than Castillo, is equal in doubles and 14 years younger.

Next years Mets starting 2B will Be Tejada, Havens or someone else.

It is an opportunity to find out more about one of those three options.

Edgy DC
Aug 15 2010 02:35 PM
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I think we're going in circles. I'm aware of all that. Nonetheless, it seems a premature giveaway to the rest of the season.

And if we're playing to get experience for next year's team, I'd like to see next year's manager in charge.

bmfc1
Aug 16 2010 10:43 AM
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Gammons on Castillo, via Twitter:

If Luis Castillo wants out, he should ask out of contract and free the Mets of his obligation. Otherwise, he is without honor, period

metirish
Aug 16 2010 10:48 AM
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Gammons is alive?


There's a good song parody with the thread title based on Van Halen's "Why Can' This Be Love" , I'm not the person to do it though.

Edgy DC
Aug 16 2010 10:48 AM
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Dear.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 16 2010 11:37 AM
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metirish wrote:
Gammons is alive?


And apparently teaching at Cobra Kai.

There's a good song parody with the thread title based on Van Halen's "Why Can' This Be Love" , I'm not the person to do it though.


I don't hear a single.

Gwreck
Aug 16 2010 06:04 PM
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The future is wide open for Castillo... (on another team)