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The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman
batmagadanleadoff Aug 16 2010 12:47 PM |
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Floundering Mets have become baseball's worst franchise
I disagree with the part about Citi Field being beautiful. The article itself is kinda crappy, too ... although the premise has lotsa merit once you adjust for the Mets being the wealthy franchise from the great city of New York and all.
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Edgy DC Aug 16 2010 12:51 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
Not much of a metric he sets up there.
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metirish Aug 16 2010 12:53 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
Godzilla , A.I., the Wilpon's, Minaya....What the Fuck is this?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 16 2010 12:54 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
His stuff is just so incredibly lazy.
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attgig Aug 16 2010 12:56 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
aka, the mets are a bust. but in reality, this article is so 2009....
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metirish Aug 16 2010 12:56 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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He's no Tim Marchman that's for sure.
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HahnSolo Aug 16 2010 12:58 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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Oh, Jeff...
I guess the $132 mill was spent to not improve the ball club? Help me out.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 16 2010 01:09 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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This supposed to be an insult? Price was pretty decent, and had one sweet head of hair. (And "reminds one?" Maybe my least favorite writerly pretension; I mean, the damn thing leads with a first-person anecdote. Also, I feel pretty safe venturing that nobody else on Planet Earth has ever drawn a comparison between Jon Niese and Joe Price, including Joe Price.)
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metsguyinmichigan Aug 16 2010 01:12 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
Ask a Pirates fan if he'd like to trade places. How about an Orioles fan. Or a Nationals fan.
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Mex17 Aug 16 2010 01:59 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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Willie Aames played for the Reds?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 16 2010 02:00 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
Ed Charles in Charge
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metsmarathon Aug 16 2010 02:15 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
wow. a 'worst movies of all time discussion, and your top two candidates are godzilla and a.i.?
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Ashie62 Aug 16 2010 02:20 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
Hey Joe Price was pretty good. Met fans know we suck. I don't need scattershot hyperbole to remind me or inspire others.
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 16 2010 02:29 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
I think that shot at Jon Niese was pretty gratuitous.
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Fman99 Aug 16 2010 03:08 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
Jeff Pearlman is the world's worst sportswriter, sez Fman99. Fuck this guy in his typewriter-hole.
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SteveJRogers Aug 16 2010 04:26 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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I used that in an argument recently. Got shot down with the "You can't have a team be this bad in the biggest market in the world and with the Yankees doing what they've been doing in the same time frame."
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Edgy DC Aug 16 2010 05:32 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
I hope you gave the man in the mirror what for.
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seawolf17 Aug 16 2010 06:31 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
Holy fucking Christmas. THE METS ARE NOT THE YANKEES. No more than the Angels are the Dodgers, or the Cubs are the White Sox. Different everything, top to bottom. Eff the Yankees; they win games? Good for them. They draft guys, sign whoever, trade your mama? Good for them.
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SteveJRogers Aug 16 2010 07:01 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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Actually the guy I was arguing with threw out the Angels in comparison. As in why can't the franchise have their kind of run. I think the argument was more along the lines of the Mets should be better than "resigning" to mediocrity while in a large market. My counter was I wonder if he'd take that a step further, using the Angels analogy, of complaining about only one championship despite all those postseason appearances and division titles.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 16 2010 07:03 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
Mostly for the 8 updates a day.
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metsguyinmichigan Aug 16 2010 07:04 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
Props to Metsmarathon and his frightening peek into Jeff Pearlman's world! Laugh out loud funny!
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SteveJRogers Aug 16 2010 07:14 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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In response to the movie bit, I've heard people hate on Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, mostly because they hate the source material that the Nolan/Bale Batman is based off of (The Frank Miller 1986 reboot of the character) and yet I've heard people hail both as the best comic book movies of all time.
And how is that the end of an argument? I have seen plenty of films that I had no reason to think that they'd be any good, and I still got some entertainment value out of them. Its the other way around that should get the "worst movie tag." Or at least most disappointing. If you are expecting a shitty movie, and it turns out to meet those expectations, that doesn't make it the worst movie ever, that just makes it another shitty movie. But as I said, one man's shit is another man's gold. Hell, I've FOUND a couple of positive reviews for Batman & Robin, generally considered the worst comic book movie ever made (I'd give a slight nod to Superman IV The Quest For Peace, only because it was a bit overboard in preachy-ness).
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Zvon Aug 16 2010 07:30 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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I'm a big fan of those Miller comics from '86 and the new movies. I don't see how one had anything to do with the other. So don't be listening to those people. (just sayin)
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SteveJRogers Aug 16 2010 07:48 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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Z, Nolan has said quite often that Miller's Year One is one of his direct influences, along with Long Halloween and Killing Joke (for TDK's Joker). Batman Begins has many illusions to Year One, and all but gives live versions of several pages. So if you weren't too fond of the Miller Batman and pretty much every Bat-Story that has come since, you probably aren't going to enjoy the Batman presented in the Chris Nolan films. Basically the argument boiled down to "It's not MY BATMAN!" (along with various story and character flaws he found in the movie) and the guy actually said the only good Batman representation on film was Mask Of The Phantasm!
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Zvon Aug 16 2010 07:59 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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My bad. I thought you were referring to Millers :The Dark Knight series. That was released in '86. Batman: Year One, Miller's retro look was 1987, also a great piece of work. And yea, I can definitely see that influence. And from Killing Joke. Not familiar with the Long Halloween.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 16 2010 08:58 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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"Long Halloween" (along with "Dark Victory") is from Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale, and is one of the more recent great Batman story arcs. Good stuff, and available in trade paper, too.
I can understand some of the nitpicks I've heard about TDK and BB. But I have a tough time seeing how one can dislike "Year One" and say that he's a Batman fan.
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Zvon Aug 16 2010 09:02 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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Thnx 4 the info LWFS. I am looking foward to reading this now.
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Edgy DC Aug 16 2010 09:04 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
Baseball, gentlemen!
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Zvon Aug 16 2010 09:07 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
Whoops. Sorry. ;)
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Willets Point Aug 16 2010 09:14 PM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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I think a split and move is called for. So they may continue their discussion of course.
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G-Fafif Aug 17 2010 09:49 AM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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Scattershot Hyperbole would have been a great name for an overblown art-rock album. Or perhaps the band itself.
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G-Fafif Aug 17 2010 09:55 AM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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Bingo. That and the "lazy" remark.
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HahnSolo Aug 17 2010 10:04 AM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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So Batman carries a big stick and Robin is the Catcher. Got it now. Oh, and Superman likes to watch.
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MFS62 Aug 17 2010 10:07 AM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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That quote causes me to question Pearlman's judgement on anything. He must not be a New Yorker. The movie was a paean to the Big Apple. There's a scene in which four people are in a taxi, trying to escape the 50 foot tall monster chasing them, and someone says "Nobody takes the FDR Drive in the rain". How can anyone who has driven that road in the rain not roar with laughter? The people in the audience where I saw the film did. That line alone elevates it above being "the worst". B'sides, the Brooklyn Bridge needed renovation anyhow. Later
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Edgy DC Aug 17 2010 10:07 AM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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And Batman chokes up, and they're all so stupid that they don't understand that they're facing the wrong direction and fair territory is behind them.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 17 2010 10:16 AM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
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Batman is the epitome of comic-book grit. Would you expect anything else? And maybe they're symbolically "turning away" from baseball, since it's the cover of the fall issue?
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Benjamin Grimm Aug 17 2010 10:18 AM Re: The Mets: Baseball's worst franchise, sez Jeff Pearlman |
How would they know anything about fall baseball? There hasn't been a World Series in DC since the days of Walter Johnson.
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