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Edgy DC Aug 20 2010 01:55 PM

MLB is pushing a synergistic marketing campaign where "Captain Morgan" will throwing out the first pitch at a game in each ballpark? Is this over the line as far as (a) marketing encroaching on a part of the game meant to convey some small or large degee of honor, (b) harder booze than beer being pushed in ballpark productions, (c) taste (for whatever reason)? The leg warmers tie the whole ensemble together, don't they? In asking this question, I realize I smell like an old fart, but those commercials are constant and annoying for MLB.com users.

themetfairy Aug 20 2010 02:01 PM Re: Over the Line

Shouldn't that take place on September 19th?

G-Fafif Aug 20 2010 02:02 PM Re: Over the Line

Got a little Captain in him?

Ceetar Aug 20 2010 02:04 PM Re: Over the Line

themetfairy wrote: Shouldn't that take place on September 19th? arrr (or only in Pittsburgh?) it's been going on all season. I don't think it's over the line. At least, no more than any of the other billion things mlb does these days in regards to advertising. I think the Yankees teeter and cross that line most days, but I may be biased.

G-Fafif Aug 20 2010 02:05 PM Re: Over the Line?

Got a little bigger Captain in him? Robinson Cancel endorses this promotion.

Zvon Aug 20 2010 02:14 PM Re: Over the Line

Ceetar wrote: it's been going on all season. I don't think it's over the line. At least, no more than any of the other billion things mlb does these days in regards to advertising. Just cause MLB does it does not mean its the proper thing to do. For the right amount of $$ MLB will do anything, it seems. This is one of the things that's wrong with the game today, IMO. No, that boozeclown should not be throwing out first pitches. I'll proudly smell like an old fart right along with you Edgy. (for the most part I enjoy the commercials and the liquor)

Edgy DC Aug 20 2010 02:15 PM Re: Over the Line?

G-Fafif wrote: Got a little bigger Captain in him? Robinson Cancel endorses this promotion. Looks like he's got a little constipation in him.

Ceetar Aug 20 2010 02:21 PM Re: Over the Line

Zvon wrote: Ceetar wrote: it's been going on all season. I don't think it's over the line. At least, no more than any of the other billion things mlb does these days in regards to advertising. Just cause MLB does it does not mean its the proper thing to do. For the right amount of $$ MLB will do anything, it seems. This is one of the things that's wrong with the game today, IMO. No, that boozeclown should not be throwing out first pitches. I'll proudly smell like an old fart right along with you Edgy. (for the most part I enjoy the commercials and the liquor) When was the last time the first pitch was treated as solely and honor and not a promotion? Jersey Shore cast? American Idol winners? Owners of key advertisers? All selling something. when was the last time "The Mets/Aramark's employee of the month" threw it out?

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2010 02:28 PM Re: Over the Line?

No wonder Morneau is out with a concussion

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 20 2010 02:28 PM Re: Over the Line?

Meanwhile, just last year, the NFL cracked down on Eagles tight end Brent Celek (HwasOMFT!) for a more guerrila-style type of thing for the same company. The lessons here being that the NFL keeps its product a lot purer than MLB, and refuses to be corrupted by corporate dollars... unless the league is in direct control of those agreements.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2010 02:30 PM Re: Over the Line?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The lessons here being that the NFL keeps its product a lot purer than MLB, and refuses to be corrupted by corporate dollars... unless the league is in direct control of those agreements. Yeah exactly. They didn't mind that players were striking poses for hard liquor (liquor? ... I hardly know her) they just don't like it going on when they're not getting a piece of the pie.

Edgy DC Aug 20 2010 02:31 PM Re: Over the Line?

Well, I haven't been to the park enough to see these folks. Actors are certainly all pimping something. This seems another level beyond maybe. I'm not, for the record, averrin', so much as askin'.

TransMonk Aug 20 2010 02:35 PM Re: Over the Line?

I don't consider this over the line in any way. Milwaukee has a stadium named Miller Park. Alcohol is alcohol. Anyone who is teetotalling should steer clear of baseball.

Ceetar Aug 20 2010 02:37 PM Re: Over the Line?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Meanwhile, just last year, the NFL cracked down on Eagles tight end Brent Celek (HwasOMFT!) for a more guerrila-style type of thing for the same company. The lessons here being that the NFL keeps its product a lot purer than MLB, and refuses to be corrupted by corporate dollars... unless the league is in direct control of those agreements. I think we're going to see more things like this, not specifically to baseball, but just in general. Advertising is shifting. Certainly this is more interesting than a generic Captain Morgan banner on the outfield wall or their name stamped on the back of my program.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 20 2010 02:44 PM Re: Over the Line?

Frayed Knot wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The lessons here being that the NFL keeps its product a lot purer than MLB, and refuses to be corrupted by corporate dollars... unless the league is in direct control of those agreements. Yeah exactly. They didn't mind that players were striking poses for hard liquor (liquor? ... I hardly know her) they just don't like it going on when they're not getting a piece of the pie. Also, I'm sure they came up with some exceedingly-generous way to replace the projected income from the campaign into the coffers of the Gridiron Greats Assistance Fund (which helps NFL vets deal with various medical and life hardships they experience after leaving the sport), which was to receive money ($10K-$100K) for each post-TD "Morgan Pose." Because they care like that.

Zvon Aug 20 2010 02:51 PM Re: Over the Line

Ceetar wrote: Ceetar wrote: it's been going on all season. I don't think it's over the line. At least, no more than any of the other billion things mlb does these days in regards to advertising. Just cause MLB does it does not mean its the proper thing to do. For the right amount of $$ MLB will do anything, it seems. This is one of the things that's wrong with the game today, IMO. No, that boozeclown should not be throwing out first pitches. I'll proudly smell like an old fart right along with you Edgy. (for the most part I enjoy the commercials and the liquor) When was the last time the first pitch was treated as solely and honor and not a promotion? Jersey Shore cast? American Idol winners? Owners of key advertisers? All selling something. when was the last time "The Mets/Aramark's employee of the month" threw it out? I have no problem with first pitches being tied to promotions or celebrities. Or owners or politicians. With this Captain Morgan character? I laughed when I saw it (got an Email from MLB the other day) and shook my head and said oy. Its obvious there is no line if you have the money or the connections. I just don't find this instance proper. I'm sure there are many other places the good captain could go to get his publicity.

G-Fafif Aug 20 2010 04:03 PM Re: Over the Line?

I hate to admit it, but this thread has totally put me in the mood for a shot of rum.

Ceetar Aug 20 2010 04:09 PM Re: Over the Line?

G-Fafif wrote: I hate to admit it, but this thread has totally put me in the mood for a shot of rum. Captain Morgan Private Reserve is good stuff. If Perez gets in the game though you have to switch to Tequila.

Edgy DC Aug 20 2010 04:19 PM Re: Over the Line?

G-Fafif wrote: I hate to admit it, but this thread has totally put me in the mood for a shot of rum. Is it the thread, or is it quitting time on Friday?

G-Fafif Aug 20 2010 04:25 PM Re: Over the Line?

Edgy DC wrote: G-Fafif wrote: I hate to admit it, but this thread has totally put me in the mood for a shot of rum. Is it the thread, or is it quitting time on Friday? It's the thread. I usually walk around craving grilled cheese sandwiches, not booze. Bit of both wouldn't be bad right now.

Ceetar Aug 20 2010 04:43 PM Re: Over the Line?

G-Fafif wrote: G-Fafif wrote: I hate to admit it, but this thread has totally put me in the mood for a shot of rum. Is it the thread, or is it quitting time on Friday? It's the thread. I usually walk around craving grilled cheese sandwiches, not booze. Bit of both wouldn't be bad right now. mmm...Grilled Cheese... doh, I don't have any bread. Pizza it is. basically the same thing.

Willets Point Aug 20 2010 06:08 PM Re: Over the Line?

Edgy DC wrote: MLB is pushing a synergistic marketing campaign where "Captain Morgan" will throwing out the first pitch at a game in each ballpark? Arrr....this is just so wrong. He should be throwing with a hook hand. Duh.

Zvon Aug 20 2010 06:14 PM Re: Over the Line?

Willets Point wrote: Edgy DC wrote: MLB is pushing a synergistic marketing campaign where "Captain Morgan" will throwing out the first pitch at a game in each ballpark? Arrr....this is just so wrong. He should be throwing with a hook hand. Duh. Now that would make it totally acceptable to me.

Frayed Knot Aug 20 2010 06:42 PM Re: Over the Line?

Would give new meaning to the phrase "throw him the hook"

seawolf17 Aug 20 2010 07:11 PM Re: Over the Line?

G-Fafif wrote: I hate to admit it, but this thread has totally put me in the mood for a shot of rum. Funny, because it's put me in the mood for one of the Captain Morgan's girls. The Captain tried to infiltrate the NFL (last year?), apparently paying players to strike the pose in an end zone celebration. The No Fun League nixed it, saying they'd fine anyone who tried it AND ban that player from sleeping with one of the Captain Morgan's girls.

metsguyinmichigan Aug 20 2010 08:01 PM Re: Over the Line?

So it's likely that Capt. Morgan will get more mound time this month than Oliver Perez.

Zvon Aug 20 2010 08:04 PM Re: Over the Line?

metsguyinmichigan wrote: So it's likely that Capt. Morgan will get more mound time this month than Oliver Perez.

themetfairy Aug 20 2010 08:29 PM Re: Over the Line?

metsguyinmichigan wrote: So it's likely that Capt. Morgan will get more mound time this month than Oliver Perez. LOL!