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Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

Kong76 Sep 17 2010 10:59 AM

The Wall tour kicked off with a bang in Toronto last night. Looking forward to seeing this spectacle at whatever they call that arena now in The Meadowlands in November ... [url]http://thechronicleherald.ca/ArtsLife/1202448.html

metirish Sep 17 2010 11:07 AM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

Looks pretty good. If you had a choice would you want Rogers Waters or Gilmore doing this? Waters, right?

Kong76 Sep 17 2010 06:23 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

Well, the correct answer is of course with both of them. I don't follow rock like baseball, I have no idea why those two can't get along but it must be a humdinger of a grudge over something. They both do great on their own playing Floyd's music. When Gilmore was touring at one time I remember seeing the tour was the highest grossing act of the year behind Michael Jackson. I didn't see them, but have a couple of dvds and they're great. I saw Waters last time around and same thing, very enjoyable. I think we have crappy tix for The Wall and it wasn't cheap. I almost let someone else go (we have a block of eight) but now I'm looking forward to it now that the tour has started and it's getting closer.

Kong76 Sep 17 2010 06:28 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

I just realized, I saw Pink Floyd at Giants Stadium without Waters ... the mind, it's a terrible thing ...

Kong76 Sep 17 2010 06:47 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

Thanks, Pammy ... [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad9EXoBZRYg&feature=related

Ashie62 Sep 18 2010 11:00 AM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

I prefer Gilmour but its all good. I saw it at MSG in 1981 first time around with a cherry brandy bong.. dude.

Zvon Sep 18 2010 04:08 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

I saw The Wall in 1980 at the Nassau Coliseum (you must have seen one of these shows Ashie). Got the tickets through an ad in the newspaper a few days before the show. Two tickets for 50$ each. I thought that a bit much at the time but I jumped on it. Really nice seats, first row off the floor off to the left. Here is pretty much the exact view I had: I have seen many, many concerts over the years and this show sits on top of my favorites list without a doubt. I got the album right before Christmas in '79 and I thought it was a trip in itself, but nothing prepared me for the visual awsomeness the was The Wall live. Never had seen anything like it. Haven't since. I could type another thousand words about my recollections of that concert and I'll spare you that. I wanted to see the Waters Wall and looked into getting tickets. Found two tickets that would put me in basically the same seats (though now in Philly) with the same perspective. The two seats cost a total of 700$. I thought long and hard about this because I really would like to see the show from that same view (or better), but I had to pass on that price. If I hadn't seen the concert in 1980 I think I might have paid the price. From what I have read recently Waters has made some changes to The Wall. I have seen no details as to what they are. And the only way to see the show, IMO , would be with both Waters and Gilmour. I've seen both solo and they did songs from the Wall, and it was excellent, but if your doing the whole thing I really think you would want em both. The Wall was Rogers baby but Gilmour made so many important contributions to the work. Who else but David should be singing Comfortably Numb and Young Lust? In 2008 I did this Wall mix CD and gave it to friends for Christmas. If anyones interested I'll link you to a d/l of it. (I may have posted about this here before). [url]http://www.facebook.com/?sk=ff#!/album.php?aid=6024&id=100001466618386 Both disc's, each as one track, are available here, through Rapid Share _____________________________ Disc One: mp3 / 104 minutes 320 kbps / 147mb [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/414106882/The_Ultimate_Wall__disc_one__MASTER_RECORDING__Zvon2008__v-mp3.mp3 _____________________________ Disc Two: mp3 / 55 minutes 320kbps / 126mb [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/414108366/The_Ultimate_Wall__Disc_Two__MASTER_RECORDING__Zvon2008__v-mp3.mp3 _____________________________ ~WFZ

Kong76 Sep 18 2010 07:52 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

There's gonna be a ton of youtube but what the hay ... [url]http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=DZqjAuBdAgI

Gwreck Sep 19 2010 06:00 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

I really wanted to see this show but the prices they are charging are unacceptable. I would have even considered a nosebleed but those start at $80 plus fees. No thanks. If Gilmour and Mason were also there, I'd probably have paid.

Kong76 Sep 24 2010 06:40 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

Waters' 'The Wall': Don't beat your head against it By Jim Slusher | Daily Herald Staff If you are or ever were a fan of Pink Floyd and its synthetic, grandiose power harmonies, you would not be disappointed with Roger Waters' 30th-anniversary theatrical rendering of the band's classic 1980 double-album "The Wall." Just try not to think about it too much. There's a studied irony in that observation, for an immense amount of thought has gone into this production and into making it more than an aging hippie's trip down Psychedelic Memory Lane. Waters clearly wants this performance to be relevant to a contemporary audience, and he wants the show to be thoughtful. Yet, in the end - despite two hours of precise sensory assault and often-stirring rock riffs and anthems - "The Wall" remains a carefully ambiguous muddle of anti-establishment politics, anti-consumerist sociology and Waters' own disillusionment with rock stardom and the impersonal milieu of the arena rock concert. Yes, the same milieu that he has - twice now, counting the original 1980 version - turned into such a splendid spectacle. Unquestionably, the program - including two more performances at the United Center Thursday and Friday - features some powerful music, powerfully done. Opening Monday night with a captivating pyrotechnic display for "In the Flesh?" the show quickly showed a tender side with "The Thin Ice," as images were cast on the growing white wall of Waters' father, who died in World War II, American soldiers in Iraq, civilians in Iran and scores of people of all races and nationalities sent in by fans to Waters' website. In "Mother," Waters elicited a resounding "No!" from a fist-shaking crowd when he crooned the line, "Mother should I trust the government?" - a scene that, oddly, wouldn't have been out of place at a tea party political rally - and by the time the wall under construction throughout the show had completely obscured the band at the intermission, the audience had been delighted by a chorus of city schoolchildren wagging their fists at a 30-foot tall puppet schoolmaster while lip-syncing, "Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!", an endless string of Orwellian slogans, images of Shell Oil and Mercedes-Benz icons falling like bombs from airplanes and the dreamy ballads of "Don't Leave Me Now" and "Goodbye Cruel World." The second act resumed on a fiery note, with the crisp, angry guitar solo of "Hey You" coming from behind the wall that now filled the length of the United Center stage, and steadily wound through a curious scene of mindless self-absorption with Waters watching television alone during "Nobody Home" and another round of soldier imagery in "Bring the Boys Back Home" to culminate in an astounding version of "Comfortably Numb" that emphasized the degree to which Waters succeeded in building a sense of intimacy in the cavernous United Center. By this time, "The Wall" has pretty much run the course of its musical ideas, so much of the rest of the show was devoted to recycling the alternatingly beautiful and frightful Gerald Scarfe animations that were a centerpiece of the piece's 1982 film version. Again, the crowd was treated to a new round of anti-commercial scenes with alternating images of political icons like George Bush and Barack Obama and Josef Stalin and Mao Tse-Dung trailing earbuds as the words iProfit, iResist, iLose and so on fade onto the screen - perhaps giving another reminder of why this all seems just a tad iPhony. Waters brought the crowd to its feet for one final round of anthemic passion with chants of "Tear down that wall!" echoing throughout the arena as, indeed, the wall was knocked down from behind. Then, he and his band concluded with a sweetly acoustic "Outside The Wall," assuring the audience that it is here where "the ones who really love you walk up and down." Waters' 30th anniversary production of "The Wall" is, in short, something more than a recycled rendition of a classic rock opera. It remains a grand display of guitar power and the alluring signature vocal harmonies of Pink Floyd. But seeing Waters on stage at age 67 - still cutting a rather natty figure, it must be said - resurrecting quasi-autobiographical sketches that are three-decades old with a jumble of ambiguous new political and social themes - you can't help wondering just what it is he wanted to leave you with. Eventually, you come to realize that it's best just not to think about it.

Kong76 Sep 24 2010 06:50 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

Kong76 wrote: Again, the crowd was treated to a new round of anti-commercial scenes with alternating images of political icons like George Bush and Barack Obama and Josef Stalin and Mao Tse-Dung trailing earbuds as the words iProfit, iResist, iLose and so on fade onto the screen - perhaps giving another reminder of why this all seems just a tad iPhony. Funny

Edgy DC Sep 24 2010 07:59 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

That's one of those obvious-except-nobody's-quite-said-it-as-such headlines in The Onion. Art Rock Suggests It Has a Specific Point, But Doesn't Really Big Idea Hinted at, Then Obscured in Grandiose Ambiguity

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 25 2010 07:02 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

Edgy DC wrote: That's one of those obvious-except-nobody's-quite-said-it-as-such headlines in The Onion. Art Rock Suggests It Has a Specific Point, But Doesn't Really Big Idea Hinted at, Then Obscured in Grandiose Ambiguity Mountains Come Out of the Sky and Stand There, see page 3

The Second Spitter Sep 29 2010 01:39 AM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

Don't know how I missed this thread. Huge PF fan here. If I had a choice to take one album on a long space cruise (cos desert islands are for old people) it would be Wish You Were Here....so Waters all the way.

TransMonk Oct 06 2010 03:27 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

I think what makes Pink Floyd great is the dual vocals of Gilmour and Waters. I find that Waters needed Gilmour to convey a lot of the ideas he we trying to get out, and that Gilmour needed Waters' ideas as a vehicle for his immense musical talent. So, the correct answer, as has been stated here, is both. I saw Pink Floyd in 1994 on the Pulse tour without Waters where they performed the full Dark Side of the Moon album. I thought it was pretty amazing. This Waters tour was just too expensive. I'll buy the DVD, though. I find it interesting that back when I was really into the Floyd (1989-1995), all of the books and articles I read on the band seemed to pin the rift in the band on Waters. He was portrayed as an ego-manical asshole that took far too much credit for the successes of the band. It seemed that he was the one who exorcised himself from the band and that he wanted nothing to do with the other three, who he felt were earning money on his achievements. However, when the band reunited in 2005 to perform at the G8 concert, it seemed that the tides had turned and that Waters was enjoying being reunited with the group and it was Gilmour who was uncomfortable and visaly put off by the event. I read earlier this year that Waters had asked Gilmour to join him on this tour and Gilmour stated he wanted nothing to do with it. Think of the fan reaction if it was both of them performing The Wall (and hell, Nick Mason as well)! I still hope someday it may happen.

metirish Oct 06 2010 03:40 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

The gig at MSG got a good write up in the Snooze today by Jim Farber.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 04:19 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

TransMonk wrote: I think what makes Pink Floyd great is the dual vocals of Gilmour and Waters. I find that Waters needed Gilmour to convey a lot of the ideas he we trying to get out, and that Gilmour needed Waters' ideas as a vehicle for his immense musical talent. So, the correct answer, as has been stated here, is both. very well put. metirish wrote: The gig at MSG got a good write up in the Snooze today by Jim Farber. I' have heard some really good things about the show. Talked to a friend today up in NYC who is going to send me a boot DvD of a recent performance. Looking foward to that. Ironic how Waters is taking shots at stuff like commercialism yet his show is so ridiculously priced many fans like you and I won't pay the price to see it.

Kong76 Nov 03 2010 12:54 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

Well, it's tonight already! Good thing it's at the Izod Center so we don't have to worry about asbestos falling from the ceiling. Except what that place is built on is probably worse than any asbestos ... Don't be surprised when a crack in the ice Appears under your feet You slip out of your depth and out of your mind With your fear flowing out behind you As you claw the thin ice

metirish Nov 03 2010 12:59 PM Re: Waters and The Wall - it's been 30 years1?!

Enjoy , a full report up by the time I get to work tomorrow, thanks