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IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Gwreck Sep 26 2010 12:03 AM

Winning our final series in Philadelphia this year would be nice.

Ashie62 Sep 26 2010 06:53 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

LETS!

Ashie62 Sep 26 2010 11:25 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

GO!

Zvon Sep 26 2010 11:54 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

(thats not a kaboom there^^. That's a "Mets". But that is the 1st kaboom I ever made) No score after one.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 11:57 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Now that's a kaboom!

Zvon Sep 26 2010 12:15 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

wtf Jose? Reyes runs into the 1st out at third. Why steal there Jose? Why? And Beltran follows with a single. Cripes

Zvon Sep 26 2010 12:18 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

And the Phils turn two. Should be 1-0. Way to go Jose.

MFS62 Sep 26 2010 12:21 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Zvon":2ivwsgpe]wtf Jose? Reyes runs into the 1st out at third. Why steal there Jose? Why? And Beltran follows with a single. Cripes[/quote:2ivwsgpe] What ever happened to not making the first (or last) out of an inning at third base? That was really dumb. Later

Zvon Sep 26 2010 12:35 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Can you believe that? Pagan stops. jeeze. He may have been out but you have to make them make the play at the plate. At least he stayed in the rundown long enough to let Davis get to third. Redeem yourself Jose.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 12:39 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Nice. Thought that was a hit up the middle, great play by Valdez saves a run. Jose does drive in one. Blanco sliding hard into second on the force attempt.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 12:39 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

OH!

bmfc1 Sep 26 2010 12:40 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Two straight RBI hits with the bases loaded! On the downside, Jose is half-way to the cycle of getting thrown out at every base today.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 12:42 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Damn. Werth flubs the bloop single and it gets by him (funny) . The Mets try to clear the bases and Jose is out at the plate (not funny). Excellent throw by SHAAAANE!. Nice play at the plate by Ruiz. Great slide by Jose. Good baseball. Mets do get 2 more and its 4-0

Frayed Knot Sep 26 2010 12:43 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Nice that they're scoring a few runs here, but they're letting Hamels off the hook a bit too. He's retired only 3 of the last 12 hitters to face him (and one of them was Misch) but wound up with six outs due to the caught stealing, a GiDP, and the throw out at home

Zvon Sep 26 2010 12:43 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="bmfc1":1p1w7m4o]On the downside, Jose is half-way to the cycle of getting thrown out at every base today.[/quote:1p1w7m4o] Something else to root for. Yay!

Zvon Sep 26 2010 12:46 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Frayed Knot":kbz2m6rz]Nice that they're scoring a few runs here, but they're letting Hamels off the hook a bit too. He's retired only 3 of the last 12 hitters to face him (and one of them was Misch) but wound up with six outs due to the caught stealing, a GiDP, and the throw out at home[/quote:kbz2m6rz] True. He's been against the ropes every inning cept the 1st. We could have knocked him out by now if we had brains under our helmets.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 12:48 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Phillies threatening in the 4th. Runners on the corners, 1 out. Carlos Ruiz seems to get big hits when his team needs them the most. Let's not allow that here.

MFS62 Sep 26 2010 12:48 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Zvon":34zz22kk][quote="bmfc1":34zz22kk]On the downside, Jose is half-way to the cycle of getting thrown out at every base today.[/quote:34zz22kk] Something else to root for. Yay![/quote:34zz22kk] What FK said. Also- there's a thin line between agressive play and not knowing when and where to do stuff. Looks like Jose's mind has been doing wheelies on that line today. Later

Zvon Sep 26 2010 12:51 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Nice DP. I don't think the ump knew that was only ball three on Ruiz. If he did that was pretty senseless letting him get all the way to 1st before letting him know.

Frayed Knot Sep 26 2010 12:53 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Sending Reyes home wasn't a bad move, it just didn't work -- although if there was ever a time to get 'payback' on one of the Phillie phielders he coulda/shoulda buried Ruiz. The brainless move was the caught stealing. Wrong move, wrong time and he had a lousy jump to boot. Between pickoffs and CSs we're giving up a lot of baserunners lately. Can't even remember the last successful SB

Zvon Sep 26 2010 12:54 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Frayed Knot Sep 26 2010 12:55 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Not only did that GiDP end the inning but it probably kept Hamels in the game (he was on deck) and Beltran takes advantage ... and NOW he's outta here.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 01:01 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Frayed Knot":1xbqpu23]Sending Reyes home wasn't a bad move, it just didn't work -- although if there was ever a time to get 'payback' on one of the Phillie phielders he coulda/shoulda buried Ruiz. The brainless move was the caught stealing. Wrong move, wrong time and he had a lousy jump to boot. Between pickoffs and CSs we're giving up a lot of baserunners lately. Can't even remember the last successful SB[/quote:1xbqpu23] I was hoping and was happy Jose tried to score there. That was good baseball. He could have put the smack down on Ruiz, as Pagan could have, though Pagan looked pretty much hung out to dry. Maybe Pagan did do the smart thing there (one brainless thing I was referring to was him stopping on the way to home), allowing Davis to get to third. Cuz he looked to be a dead duck. But i wanted to see him bowl over Ruiz there. And I guess that would not have accomplished nothing.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 01:13 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Nice pitch Misch! Toss the human bobble head blue!

Zvon Sep 26 2010 01:17 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Shit! Didn't think Misch was gonna give him anything to hit. Utley with the 3 run bomb.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 01:21 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Ryans double knocks out Misch. Pagan, how about running to the baseball, not walking. Oy. There could have been a play on Howard at 2nd.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 01:24 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Man, this Phils lineup has so many hitters that I'm afraid of. Werth is one of em these days. Go get him Green!

Zvon Sep 26 2010 01:26 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Wicked slider from Green gets Werth. Wicked. Okay, lets not be rolling over now. More runs required.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 01:30 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Werth is probably the best hitter in the lineup these days. I support pulling the starter with two out in the fourth and denying him his win, but a) I doubt Jerry would pull that on a more established starter, and b) I fear that Jerry is going to try (and fail) to use six pitchers to get the final 4 1/3 innings.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 01:42 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

I'll be impressed if Acosta can get out of this w/o Ibanez scoring.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 01:43 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

WHOA! What a catch by Beltran!

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 01:44 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

I am Carlos Beltran. I am not done yet.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 01:48 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

I really didn't think he was gonna catch up to that one. Wright with a one out double. Lets plate him Angel.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 01:52 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Can you tell I've been drinking coffee all afternoon? Way to just watch Pagan. They will walk Ike and Duda will hit for Arias. Your big Duda!

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 02:01 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Glad to see Acosta get to start the second inning. But here comes Felicity to face Utley and Howard.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 02:04 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

a) Pitch to Howard? b) Pitch around Howard? c) Walk Howard?

Zvon Sep 26 2010 02:06 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Edgy DC":kufsas4x]a) Pitch to Howard? b) Pitch around Howard? c) Walk Howard?[/quote:kufsas4x] Pitch to Howard and let Evans do the rest. In retrospect, of course.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 02:06 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

They went with (b) and it worked. The Mets are playing some defense today.

Gwreck Sep 26 2010 02:12 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Howie ripping Castillo on the broadcast for Luis' unavailability to pinch-hit yesterday late in the game when he was in the clubhouse instead of the dugout.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 02:13 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Wow, a Castillo plate appearance.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 02:15 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Our Daily Dose of Dessens.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 02:17 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Gwreck":3esniveb]Howie ripping Castillo on the broadcast for Luis' unavailability to pinch-hit yesterday late in the game when he was in the clubhouse instead of the dugout.[/quote:3esniveb] I heard nothing about this. Why was he in the clubhouse? Was he still in uniform? Watching that at-bat by Castillo all I could think of was he ohhhh, so does not want to be here anymore. And I can't blame him.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 02:24 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Nice play by Tejada. J-Roll in to pinch hit. I don't like this.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 02:27 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Good job by Dessens. Get meh some moar runs! Rollins will stay in at short.

Gwreck Sep 26 2010 02:29 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

KABOOM!

Zvon Sep 26 2010 02:29 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Kong76 Sep 26 2010 02:29 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Carlos teaches 'em to do the mambo from the other side of the plate.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 02:30 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Edgy DC":10nb88gw]I am Carlos Beltran. I am not done yet.[/quote:10nb88gw] Not. Done.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 02:31 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

YES! Nice pop to left by Beltran. No Met fans there in Philly this weekend, huh? Crowd was as quiet as a crowd could be.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 02:40 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Tak's on for the save. Four run lead. Lookin good.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 02:46 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Phillies, I'm not liking your two-tone Cubs hats.

Gwreck Sep 26 2010 02:49 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Put it in the books! Last series we won in Philadelphia: July 2008.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 02:51 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Gwreck":2i3zpd47]Howie ripping Castillo on the broadcast for Luis' unavailability to pinch-hit yesterday late in the game when he was in the clubhouse instead of the dugout.[/quote:2i3zpd47] It was a pinch-running appearance, and Howie would do well not to get carried away.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 02:51 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

L8r Phillies. Go clinch somewhere else against someone else. Ty Mets for at least not allowing the Phils to take it on your watch.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 02:52 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Phls got to clinch on the road.

Zvon Sep 26 2010 02:59 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Edgy DC":2fcvxirw]Phls got to clinch on the road.[/quote:2fcvxirw] So the Mets finally did something right by me.

G-Fafif Sep 26 2010 03:31 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Party on, Phils! In Washington.

bmfc1 Sep 26 2010 03:46 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Edgy DC":3dompkxm][quote="Gwreck":3dompkxm]Howie ripping Castillo on the broadcast for Luis' unavailability to pinch-hit yesterday late in the game when he was in the clubhouse instead of the dugout.[/quote:3dompkxm] It was a pinch-running appearance, and Howie would do well not to get carried away.[/quote:3dompkxm] Unless Castillo had the runs, there is no excuse. What's the difference if it was to pinch run or pinch hit? The Mets pay him to play baseball and he wasn't ready. F Castillo.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 05:13 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

The difference is that I thought I'd clarify what actually happened. There's no excuse and nobody's making one. But it's worthwhile not to get carried away. It happens in the course of a long season.

G-Fafif Sep 26 2010 05:48 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="bmfc1":371spmes]Unless Castillo had the runs, there is no excuse.[/quote:371spmes] He's only had 27 of them this season. Runs, I mean. Stay ready, Luis. It's the least -- the absolute least -- anybody asks you to do.

Ceetar Sep 26 2010 08:15 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="G-Fafif":abx304mi][quote="bmfc1":abx304mi]Unless Castillo had the runs, there is no excuse.[/quote:abx304mi] He's only had 27 of them this season. Runs, I mean. Stay ready, Luis. It's the least -- the absolute least -- anybody asks you to do.[/quote:abx304mi] Regardless that he should've been playing at various points when we weren't. but this has happened too much, with too many different players. Castillo, Takahashi in that Santana in Philly game, Santos pinch hitting for Castro last year..and those are only the ones we've caught.

Edgy DC Sep 26 2010 08:18 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Kevin Mitchell with his pants off in 1986.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 27 2010 09:58 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Santos wasn't unready to pinch-hit for Castro because he was playing grab-ass with Bobby Bo in the clubhouse; he was playing warm-up catcher in the 'pen. [quote="Edgy DC":3cx4f6bq]I am Carlos Beltran. I am not done yet.[/quote:3cx4f6bq] I would give a pinky toe for this to presage a season so shockingly good that Sunday becomes known as the "I'm Not Done Yet" game.

Edgy DC Sep 27 2010 10:03 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

I'm in. Hey, everyobdy, get your toes in.

Ceetar Sep 27 2010 10:10 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr":3c5ttudu]Santos wasn't unready to pinch-hit for Castro because he was playing grab-ass with Bobby Bo in the clubhouse; he was playing warm-up catcher in the 'pen. [/quote:3c5ttudu] Either he left on his own, or they told him to go there and forgot. We have half a dozen bullpen catchers. Can we not keep all our players on the bench when they're needed?

Edgy DC Sep 27 2010 10:26 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

We have half a dozen bullpen catchers? What time of year was this?

Ceetar Sep 27 2010 10:33 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Edgy DC":16arhno6]We have half a dozen bullpen catchers? What time of year was this?[/quote:16arhno6] not on the roster, but you got guys back there that do this job, particularly instead of what was one of the only available pinch hitters at the time. But this was a long time ago, I'm not looking to break it down, just wondering why it seems like there have been multiple instances of guys not being where they were expected to be, and why we're being made aware of it. And even so, it doesn't really matter, since we're getting a new staff that will likely have their own set of rules about where players need to be during the game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 27 2010 10:38 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

(reads) (/punches self)

Edgy DC Sep 27 2010 10:39 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

As far as I know, there's one bullpen catcher in Dave Racianello. Maybe Sandy Alomar, Jr. was doing some catching, maybe not. I don't know who these half dozen guys are. Nonetheless, the implication in your post is that Santos wasn't serving the team, but failing them out of some sort of self-interest. He was clearly there because that's where he was asked to be.

Ceetar Sep 27 2010 11:44 AM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Edgy DC":f5rrzqes]As far as I know, there's one bullpen catcher in Dave Racianello. Maybe Sandy Alomar, Jr. was doing some catching, maybe not. I don't know who these half dozen guys are. Nonetheless, the implication in your post is that Santos wasn't serving the team, but failing them out of some sort of self-interest. He was clearly there because that's where he was asked to be.[/quote:f5rrzqes] if that's where he was asked to be, why was Jerry looking for him? I wasn't trying to imply it was Santos' fault. Have the guys you need in the bullpen in the bullpen, guys on the bench on the bench. That's at least three incidents that I remember and that we know of and that seems too much of a coincidence for me. 2, half-dozen, whatever. Why did we have active players warming up pitchers late in a game? (in a game that as it stood wasn't going to need even one more pitcher) You've got Racianello and Alomar, as you said if you need to have two guys warming up. Just seems sloppy to me.

Edgy DC Sep 27 2010 12:40 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Backup catchers have participated in the warming up of relievers in the bullpen since the dawn of time. On every team.

Ceetar Sep 27 2010 12:45 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Edgy DC":14lp37ul]Backup catchers have participated in the warming up of relievers in the bullpen since the dawn of time. On every team.[/quote:14lp37ul] It suggests that Jerry hadn't thought about the possibility of using him to pinch hit until he actually decided to use him to pinch hit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 27 2010 12:49 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

(rereads) (fractures skull on desk)

Edgy DC Sep 27 2010 12:57 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

Come on, you're circle-jerking me, here. I should have quit after "two, half dozen, whatver."

Ceetar Sep 27 2010 01:12 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="Edgy DC":f1oj0n3a]Come on, you're circle-jerking me, here. I should have quit after "two, half dozen, whatver."[/quote:f1oj0n3a] probably. I'm having a rough day and feel like slamming my head into the wall both on the work and personal level and just generally feel like screaming and arguing and picking on Jerry Manuel.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 27 2010 01:18 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

"I've made a lot of mistakes. But you can't tell me that Santos doesn't have a quick swing! Why, not pinching him for a red-hot Castro would have been crazy like a currency based on hair, or a Jeff-Francoeur-centered marketing campaign!"

Ceetar Sep 27 2010 01:22 PM Re: IGT 9/26/10 - NYM @ PHI

[quote="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]"I've made a lot of mistakes. But you can't tell me that Santos doesn't have a quick swing! Why, not pinching him for a red-hot Castro would have been crazy like a currency based on hair, or a Jeff-Francoeur-centered marketing campaign!"

Is that why Reyes has so much hair lately?