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Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Frayed Knot Oct 05 2010 07:12 PM

This series kicks off 2nd on Wed afternoon. The stands will be drowning in seas of red Full Sked - all games on TBS: Wed - @ Phil - 5:07 PM Fri - @ Phil - 6:07 PM Sun - @ Cin - TBA * Mon - @ Cin - TBA * Wed - @ Phil TBA Game 1 = Edison Volquez vs Roy Halladay I hate the built-in extra day off. I’d like to see the first round played with either one or even zero days off, but while two is acceptable three is horrid. Eight days to play five games changes the nature of how the game is played all year. In this case the NL gets one series with the extra day off and Philly, having the best record, got first choice if they wanted it or not. Naturally they took it and will only have to use 3 pitchers even if it goes the whole 5 games. - Philly won 5 of 7 this season, taking 2 of 3 in late June in Cincy and then four straight a week later at home.

bmfc1 Oct 06 2010 06:17 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Frayed Knot wrote: I hate the built-in extra day off. I’d like to see the first round played with either one or even zero days off, but while two is acceptable three is horrid. Eight days to play five games changes the nature of how the game is played all year. In this case the NL gets one series with the extra day off and Philly, having the best record, got first choice if they wanted it or not. Naturally they took it and will only have to use 3 pitchers even if it goes the whole 5 games. You're right: baseball is played on every Friday and Saturday all season long until the first round of the playoffs when one league has Friday off and the other has Saturday off. And, as you said, the benefit of a deeper rotation is lost.

Ceetar Oct 06 2010 07:45 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

I despise all these extra days. There is too many off days, especially between series. 19 games max, and it takes 29 days? You know, if they added another wildcard quick series but cut out the days off the playoffs would be over quicker, there'd be more games to watch more often, and we wouldn't even notice.

Frayed Knot Oct 06 2010 08:13 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

I hate the built-in extra day off. I’d like to see the first round played with either one or even zero days off, but while two is acceptable three is horrid. Eight days to play five games changes the nature of how the game is played all year. In this case the NL gets one series with the extra day off and Philly, having the best record, got first choice if they wanted it or not. Naturally they took it and will only have to use 3 pitchers even if it goes the whole 5 games. You're right: baseball is played on every Friday and Saturday all season long until the first round of the playoffs when one league has Friday off and the other has Saturday off. And, as you said, the benefit of a deeper rotation is lost. It's not even which days of the week the off days fall on, it's just that there's too many of them. The main culprit is, of course, TV. To hold four separate series without tweaking them the way they do would cause all four to be played on the same day at least once and MLB certainly doesn't want games overlapping each other to further dilute the viewership nor do the networks who pay all that money for the exclusivity factor. The other thing is that once they went to the Wild Card system there became the perceived need to not only give the higher ranked team home field advantage (as opposed to the previous random system) but also to never have the lower team have the advantage for even a moment during the series. That in turn led to one extra travel day in a five game series as they moved to a 2-2-1 split from the previous 2-3 At least they've yanked the extra day out of the LCS series this year and next season they've changed the starting and ending days of the season in order to begin the playoffs on a (in their opinion) more favorable time in the week.

MFS62 Oct 06 2010 09:34 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

This will be Roy Halliday's first post season start. Later

Ceetar Oct 06 2010 09:44 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

MFS62 wrote: This will be Roy Halliday's first post season start. Later And his last. bank on it. *crosses fingers*

Ashie62 Oct 06 2010 09:47 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Family structure requires me to root for the Phillies..ughh. and quietly.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 06 2010 09:51 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Is "Put 'Em in a Body Bag" Johnny Cueto scheduled to pitch for the Redlegs? That might be fun with a Philly crowd.

Gwreck Oct 06 2010 03:56 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

With 2 outs, Volquez walks Carlos Ruiz on 4 pitches and it's all downhill from there. 4-0 bad guys already.

Ceetar Oct 06 2010 04:25 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

The bums. Let's kick it in gear here or something. Can still bounce back.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 04:41 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Its not the Mets so I'll go ahead and say it. If Halladay pitches a no-hitter in his first post season appearance I am gonna flip my lid.

Frayed Knot Oct 06 2010 04:48 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Obviously the light never came on for Edison Volquez today. Still 4-0 thru five. No-hitter for Halladay tho no perfecto (1 walk).

Zvon Oct 06 2010 04:56 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

No-hitter through six. Wow. I'm rootin for the Phils but I don't know if I wanna see a no-no. I did just tell a Phils fan friend yesterday that it would be kool if that happened. Now I dunno. It would be some historical baseball. He can't keep this up. He just can't.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 05:00 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

He'll give it up now in the 7th, after having to run out that grounder to end the inning. Isn't that the way it should go? And it'll be a HR. I'm on record.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 05:09 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Yikes. This is ridiculous.

bmfc1 Oct 06 2010 05:11 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

The Amazin' Avenue blog just tweeted: I have no love lost for the Phillies but I'm sure as hell rooting for Halladay here. Why would any Mets fan want anything good to happen to the Phillies or see their fans happy? Do you think that Phillies fans would be rooting for a Met pitcher in the same situation? I know that we don't have to lower ourselves to their level, and that we can appreciate greatness, history and artistry, but F the Phillies.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 05:21 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

bmfc1 wrote: The Amazin' Avenue blog just tweeted: I have no love lost for the Phillies but I'm sure as hell rooting for Halladay here. Why would any Mets fan want anything good to happen to the Phillies or see their fans happy? Do you think that Phillies fans would be rooting for a Met pitcher in the same situation? I know that we don't have to lower ourselves to their level, and that we can appreciate greatness, history and artistry, but F the Phillies. I'm a Met fan first and a baseball fan second. As a fan of the game how can you not want to see something like this happen? Who gives a flying fuck about the Phils fans. I know I don't. They can hurl all over each other for all I care. This is post season baseball and this is exciting, no matter what team is doing it. Don't be petty.

Frayed Knot Oct 06 2010 05:27 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

He's making it look easy.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 05:28 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Wowzers. I still say no way can he do it. He gives it up in the 9th. ^What a strange way to root,lol.

metirish Oct 06 2010 05:29 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

What Halladay is doing here is special, I'm rooting for the no-hitter, certainly not rooting against it anyway.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 05:31 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

I guess I have mixed feelings cause at this point I wanna see him do it ,see a no-no in post play, and in my head I think no way can he do this. Very strange perspective.

metirish Oct 06 2010 05:34 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Zvon wrote: I guess I have mixed feelings cause at this point I wanna see him do it ,see a no-no in post play, and in my head I think no way can he do this. Very strange perspective. I think he could no hit them through 15 if he wanted.

bmfc1 Oct 06 2010 05:36 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Zvon wrote: Don't be petty. I don't think I'm being petty. I don't want anything good to happen to the Phillies. I hope Halladay emplodes in the 9th and the Reds win.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 05:37 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 06 2010 05:41 PM

metirish wrote: Zvon wrote: I guess I have mixed feelings cause at this point I wanna see him do it ,see a no-no in post play, and in my head I think no way can he do this. Very strange perspective. I think he could no hit them through 15 if he wanted. Well, if anyone can, it's him. This is something else. I'm almost gettin butterflies over here, lol. Imagine if this was the Mets. Id be sitting on all the bricks I'd be shitting. I'm kinda glad it don't REALLY matter to me.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 05:38 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

bmfc1 wrote: Zvon wrote: Don't be petty. I don't think I'm being petty. I don't want anything good to happen to the Phillies. I hope Halladay emplodes in the 9th and the Reds win. I should not have said that, put it that way. This is sports. Im sorry bro

Frayed Knot Oct 06 2010 05:38 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

It might even be enough to push Randy Moss off the lead story on SportsCenter .... Nahhh. Just for kicks I flicked over to the 6PM SC during breaks in the early part of the game and, with one playoff game already in the books and one more in progress, they devoted the full first 15 minutes of the show to the Randy Moss trade: the specifics of the deal, Moss's reaction, Brady's reaction, Farve's reaction, Balicheck's reaction, the reactions of ESPN's talking heads to the previous reactions, analysis of the upcoming schedule, etc.

Frayed Knot Oct 06 2010 05:40 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

The only hope the Reds have right now is if Jim Joyce is umping at 1st.

metirish Oct 06 2010 05:42 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Oh so espn didn't lead with the story about one of their producers giving himself up today to the cops.....he was caught masturbating at a neighbors window while she undressed.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 05:42 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

unfuckinbelieveable

bmfc1 Oct 06 2010 05:43 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Fuck.

bmfc1 Oct 06 2010 05:43 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Zvon: you're a good dude. No sweat.

Frayed Knot Oct 06 2010 05:44 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

That was almost very interesting. Phillips' tossed bat hit the dribbler up the line a few feet. I saw the ump point to it so he appeared to notice the contact but I'm not sure what the call w/should have been if the bat knocked the ball enough to prevent catcher Ruiz from making the play.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 05:48 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

unfuckinbelievable!

Zvon Oct 06 2010 06:12 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

un fuckin believeable phones ringing of the hook. First two calls were from my bros (Met fans all), so that was okay. Then a buddy who's a Phils fan called and I said unfuckinbelieveable!, then:listen, I gotta get my shit out of the dryer, call ya back. I just did not want to talk to him. lmao. damn. If he says we got a perfect game in the reg season and a no-no in the playoffs and your Mets don't even have one in all their history, I'll run over to his house and pop him one.lol But he won't say that. he's not a dick. But I know a few Phils fans who are. Note to self: Avoid the dicks. Screen all calls.

G-Fafif Oct 06 2010 07:25 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

And in the understatement of the day, boy is that Halladay good. Once it became fairly apparent which way this game was going, I was going with history. Maybe a little more overconfidence will seep into the Phillie clubhouse -- and at least the MFYs can't claim the only one of these (sort of) in baseball history. Go get 'em next time, Cincy.

Edgy DC Oct 06 2010 07:29 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Yanks have a history (once ro twice anyhow) of calling the game if there's a 20% chance of rain and a 100% chance of Halladay. Here's hoping he chews them up if they face each other in the Series.

Gwreck Oct 06 2010 07:34 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

This no-hitter will be an afterthought when Cincinnati wins the series.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 07:54 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Edgy DC wrote: Yanks have a history (once ro twice anyhow) of calling the game if there's a 20% chance of rain and a 100% chance of Halladay. Here's hoping he chews them up if they face each other in the Series. That's the spirit! Cheers! Talked to my good buddy today, big Skankee fan, still lives in NYC. I said "So lookin foward to the Yank game tonight?" And he says "Nah, not gonna watch it. Have to be up early tomorrow. The Yanks are not gonna make it to the World Series. They just don't have what it takes this year." wtf? I mean, even if you think that in some dark corner of your heart (about your team), do you go around saying it? I guess I'm just not in touch with what it is to be a fan anymore.

Edgy DC Oct 06 2010 07:56 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Why invest any emotion over a division series? This is the Yankees we're talking about. It's not like he can't jump back on the bandwagon in two weeks if it's still running.

Zvon Oct 06 2010 08:12 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Edgy DC wrote: Why invest any emotion over a division series? This is the Yankees we're talking about. It's not like he can't jump back on the bandwagon in two weeks if it's still running. That's fucked up shit.

PiggiesTomatoes Oct 06 2010 09:19 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Edgy DC wrote: Why invest any emotion over a division series? This is the Yankees we're talking about. It's not like he can't jump back on the bandwagon in two weeks if it's still running. Classic!

MFS62 Oct 07 2010 08:05 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

G-Fafif wrote: Once it became fairly apparent which way this game was going, I was going with history. You weren't the only one who felt he was looking at something historic. On the radio during the 4th inning, Dave "Soup" Campbell asked "I wonder if Don Larson is watching?" How prophetic was that? Late

Benjamin Grimm Oct 07 2010 08:19 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Here's how detached I've become: I had forgotten that a game was on, but when I remembered, I checked online to see what the score was. I saw it was the 8th inning and there was a no-hitter in progress. And that still didn't motivate me to turn on the TV. I didn't find out that the had gotten the no-hitter until I saw the newspaper this morning.

Ceetar Oct 07 2010 08:24 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

I'm done. Every team I wanted to win lost. That's how it went last postseason too, in every single series. So, Yanks over Phillies in 7. There. now that I'm rooting for that, it'll never happen right? I tried to tweet this last night in the 7th but Twitter was borked. "We're going about it all wrong Mets fans. We should root _for_ the no-hitter. Then Halladay's elbow will explode."

TransMonk Oct 07 2010 08:35 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

I hope the Reds can bounce back...but in a short series a dominating loss like this one could have knocked the winning right out of them.

HahnSolo Oct 07 2010 08:52 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Count me among the petty.

Ceetar Oct 07 2010 09:32 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

TransMonk wrote: I hope the Reds can bounce back...but in a short series a dominating loss like this one could have knocked the winning right out of them. Hamels is a pretty boy and I think he'll crack at the first sign of his stuff not working correctly or the Reds not biting or maybe the umpire not giving every call to him. I think the Reds erupt for 10 runs on Friday. I'm hoping that Halladay's pitching has challenged the Reds hitters to really have to step it up, and when the other pitchers aren't as good, and when Halladay isn't as good, they'll be on him hard. I don't care if it's grasping at straws.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 07 2010 09:58 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Well, we kicked the living shit out of him during his last start of the reg'lars. The Reds should be able to... only he shut them out over 7 2/3 the one time he faced them. And, oh yeah-- his career numbers against them? Like Mariano Rivera having a good year. 7 GS 2 CG, 1 SHO 50 2/3 IP (7.2 IP/G) 42 K 18 BB 28 Hits Allowed (.163 BAA) 1.07 ERA 0.91 WHIP Gather ye Five-Ways while ye may.

Zvon Oct 07 2010 02:41 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Ceetar wrote: Hamels is a pretty boy and I think he'll crack at the first sign of his stuff not working correctly or the Reds not biting or maybe the umpire not giving every call to him. I'll agree with this.

G-Fafif Oct 08 2010 04:12 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Brandon Phillips breaks up Oswalt's no-hitter right away. 1-0 Not Bad Guys.

Frayed Knot Oct 08 2010 04:58 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

It occurred to me as I was watching the final outs of the no-hitter that this was Cincy's first playoff* game since getting 2-hit by Leiter. That's not a good "streak" to be on. * and, yeah, I know it wasn't technically a playoff game, but it qualifies as first 'extra' or post-#162 game.

G-Fafif Oct 08 2010 05:19 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

No one-game playoff loser in the divisional era ever took longer to recover than did the Reds, needing 11 years to get over the beating the Mets put on them. (Details here.) Cincinnati: Cooperative with New York's better sporting angels for nearly a half-century. Meanwhile, 3-0 Reds -- eff you other Roy.

metsguyinmichigan Oct 08 2010 05:39 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Now it's four runs! Get 'em, Reds!

G-Fafif Oct 08 2010 06:20 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Phillies waking up. Even worse are those Taco Bell commercials with Girardi and Rivera.

Zvon Oct 08 2010 06:32 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

OUCH. I somehow doubt that was intentional. Watch the umps issue warnings, lol.

Fman99 Oct 08 2010 07:00 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

EPIC defensive fail by the Redlegs. Fuck this game.

themetfairy Oct 08 2010 07:00 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

That was Castillo-ian....

HahnSolo Oct 08 2010 07:24 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

These Phillies really give me a late-90s Yankee vibe, and I really don't want to live through that again.

Edgy DC Oct 08 2010 07:50 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

So maybe lure Pat Gillick out of retirement. Really, such dread. Just you wait and see.

Frayed Knot Oct 08 2010 07:52 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

HahnSolo wrote: These Phillies really give me a late-90s Yankee vibe, and I really don't want to live through that again. Yup. At one point there was something like 7 straight Phils who reached base did so without a hit. Walks, HBPs (3 in a 5 batter span), errors, more errors, plays simply not made, throws to the wrong base, etc. Positively Yanqui-esque.

Zvon Oct 08 2010 08:57 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

I just saw that crazy inning by the Phils (horrible inning for the Reds) on playback. What was the final word? Was that ball lost in the lights or in the white hankies? I'm gonna go on record saying white hankies should be banned from the stands. Colored hankies are acceptable.

Edgy DC Oct 09 2010 04:38 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Racist.

Frayed Knot Oct 09 2010 06:26 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Here are the almost comical 5th - 6th & 7th innings for the Phils: 1B FO FC - too slow for a DP (classic NYY-type move) so at this point there's 1 on and 2 out E4 - Phillips slid for a grounder he didn't look like he needed to leave his feet for E5 - Rolen both bobbled it then made a bad throw 2 RBI 1B - both runs unearned of course K 6th inning: Walk Pop-out * change pitchers* K - again, two outs and a good chance to get out of the inning SB HBP *change pitchers* HBP Walk - 1 RBI GO 7th inning: *new pitcher* HBP (on an 0-2 count, and it looked like it missed) K FC/no out recorded - Basically Rolen threw to the wrong base trying to get the force when he should have gone to 1st. Ump might have missed the call at 2nd too. So essentially another error even though not scored that way. E9/E4 - this was the killer. Bruce whiffed on the soft liner then Phillips dropped the relay throw to allow the 2nd run to score 1B RBI GO - a slow bouncer hit too shitty to get the DP and end the inning even with the catcher running, a true NYY moment. 1B *change pitchers* GO So, if I've got my math right, Reds pitchers faced 22 batters to get those 9 outs even though the Phils got all of 4 hits and all of them singles.

smg58 Oct 09 2010 09:51 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

I'm sick of seeing teams get to the playoffs and then play like deer in the headlights. Especially when I'm rooting for them to beat the Yankees or the Phillies.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 10 2010 09:05 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Votto up as the tying run in the 9th, Reds last stand.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 10 2010 09:07 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Votto up as the tying run in the 9th, Reds last stand. DPs, natually. Now Rolen to K, wait for it...

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 10 2010 09:08 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

like I said. How humiliating for the Reds.

Frayed Knot Oct 10 2010 10:11 PM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Would have been nice if the Reds made a show of things, although I never really held out much hope for this series. The Twins, on the other hand, I really did think were going to at least be competitive which is why I found that one much more disappointing. Their game 1 give-away was 2000 Mets-ish in how it set the tone for the whole series. After that, getting humped by an old and shaky Pettitte was almost expected.

Willets Point Oct 12 2010 07:18 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Frayed Knot wrote: getting humped by an old and shaky Pettitte Ew! The imagery. I think the Fman-ing of CPF prose is getting out of hand.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 12 2010 07:22 AM Re: Reds vs Phils - NLDS IST

Willets Point wrote: I think the Fman-ing of CPF prose is getting out of hand. Word.