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Edgy DC Sep 27 2010 10:18 PM

At least, it threatens to shake out something like this way if the season somehow opens with nothing changing except folks getting healthy. Starting Pitchers 43 R.A. Dickey DoB:10/29/1974 33 John Maine DoB:5/8/1981 49 Jon Niese DoB:10/27/1986 34 Mike Pelfrey DoB:1/14/1984 57 Johan Santana DoB:3/13/1979 Relief Pitchers 36 Manny Acosta DoB:5/1/1981 50 Sean Green DoB:4/20/1979 48 Pat Misch DoB:8/18/1981 39 Bobby Parnell DoB:9/8/1984 Oliver Perez DoB:8/15/1981 Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders 75 Fran. Rodriguez DoB:1/7/1982 47 His. Takahashi DoB:4/2/1975 13 Mike Nickeas DoB:2/13/1983 30 Josh Thole DoB:10/28/1986 1 Luis Castillo DoB:9/12/1975 Infielders 29 Ike Davis DoB:3/22/1987 3 Luis Hernandez DoB:6/26/1984 28 Daniel Murphy DoB:4/1/1985 7 Jose Reyes DoB:6/11/1983 5 David Wright DoB:12/20/1982 Oufielders 44 Jason Bay DoB:9/20/1978 15 Carlos Beltran DoB:4/24/1977 23 Chris Carter DoB:9/16/1982 6 Nick Evans DoB:1/30/1986 16 Angel Pagan DoB:7/2/1981 Yeah, that's the way it's gonna happen.

Ceetar Sep 27 2010 10:33 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Exactly how it's going to happen. Actually, as Maine doesn't have a contract and Perez does, I imagine he's the guy in the 5th starter spot. I'm not sure Luis Hernandez has earned that backup role. More like Turner or Tejada? I figure if we don't get into a 4 page fight about next year's backup middle infielder in September, we're just not doing our jobs.

Edgy DC Sep 27 2010 10:46 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Certainly nobody's earned it. I just figured him being out of options, and having outperformed Arias and Tejada until he got hurt, he's currently first in line. Where Turner currently stands is clear from his absence.

seawolf17 Sep 28 2010 05:26 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

I'm actually okay with Ollie as the 5 right now; I still have the tiniest bit of cahnfidence in him turning it around under a new regime. I think that if Castillo's still here, they'll keep Hernandez over Tejada and let Tejada play every day somewhere. (Forgot about Arias too, though.)

Ceetar Sep 28 2010 05:28 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

True...Arias keeps the Lastings Milledge thread alive.

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 05:30 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

(Forgot about Arias too, though.) Isn't it amazing how Jerry can do that? Wipe a guy from your memory like that? An allegedly active healthy one on the roster and everything, even.

Lefty Specialist Sep 28 2010 06:39 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Well, there's a 75-win team.

Gwreck Sep 28 2010 06:50 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Really? Bay, Beltran, Wright and Reyes are all very good-to-excellent players. If healthy and playing (reasonably) well, the Mets should be ok.

Ashie62 Sep 28 2010 06:51 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Andy McCullough writes in the Ledger today how to fix the Mets. [url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/09/better_drafting_support_of_dav.html

Lefty Specialist Sep 28 2010 07:08 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Gwreck wrote: Really? Bay, Beltran, Wright and Reyes are all very good-to-excellent players. If healthy and playing (reasonably) well, the Mets should be ok. If. The 500-pound millstone around all Mets teams from the dawn of time. That quote could apply to 2010 as well. And in various forms, 2002, 1992, 1972, to name just a few.

Ceetar Sep 28 2010 07:12 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Lefty Specialist wrote: Gwreck wrote: Really? Bay, Beltran, Wright and Reyes are all very good-to-excellent players. If healthy and playing (reasonably) well, the Mets should be ok. If. The 500-pound millstone around all Mets teams from the dawn of time. That quote could apply to 2010 as well. And in various forms, 2002, 1992, 1972, to name just a few. And it could apply to just about any team ever. Wright and Bay are healthy guys (concussions are odd What if the Phillies don't resign or find an adequate replacement for Werth and Utley doesn't stay healthy all season and Halladay starts to show his age?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2010 07:15 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Ashie62 wrote: Andy McCullough writes in the Ledger today how to fix the Mets. [url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/09/better_drafting_support_of_dav.html In recent years, Minaya doled out chunks of cash to aging stars (Johan Santana and Carlos Beltran) and fading non-factors (Luis Castillo and Oliver Perez). Come on! Both Santana and Beltran were under 30 when the Mets acquired them. Sure, Beltran is aging now, but he's also in the sixth year of that contract. He was just shy of 28 when he played his first game as a Met. And Santana was two weeks past his 29th birthday when he made his Mets debut.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 28 2010 07:18 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Gwreck wrote: Really? Bay, Beltran, Wright and Reyes are all very good-to-excellent players. If healthy and playing (reasonably) well, the Mets should be ok. Si. Though as shown this season, much rests on their ability to get acceptable play at the other positions.

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 07:20 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Lefty Specialist wrote: Gwreck wrote: Really? Bay, Beltran, Wright and Reyes are all very good-to-excellent players. If healthy and playing (reasonably) well, the Mets should be ok. If. The 500-pound millstone around all Mets teams from the dawn of time. That quote could apply to 2010 as well. And in various forms, 2002, 1992, 1972, to name just a few. Yes, but it also applies to teams that did stay helathy and did achieve. That's life and that's what we're confronted with.

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 07:21 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Come on! Both Santana and Beltran were under 30 when the Mets acquired them. Sure, Beltran is aging now, but he's also in the sixth year of that contract. He was just shy of 28 when he played his first game as a Met. And Santana was two weeks past his 29th birthday when he made his Mets debut. Thanks for keeping me from clicking.

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2010 07:27 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Andy McCullough writes in the Ledger today how to fix the Mets. [url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2010/09/better_drafting_support_of_dav.html I love proposed "solutions" that essentially say the way to get better is: 'Get better players'. Gee thanks, Ace. Aside from the (by now common) stuff about potential front office-v-ownership conflict there's little there that's unique to the Mets. And also I could swear that the NYM minor league system ranked a lot higher than 25th in BA this past year as this guy claims. It wasn't real high on the list IIRC but more up around middle of the pack. Besides, who DOESN'T want more young/cheap players from their system and the one that saw either the introductions or graduations to full-time status the probable 2011 starting 1B & C (Thole & Davis), possibly 2/5th of the rotation (Niese & Mejia), and maybe even a solid bullpen man (Parnell) and starting 2B just in one season can't be dumped on too much.

MFS62 Sep 28 2010 07:34 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Ceetar wrote: True...Arias keeps the Lastings Milledge thread alive. Glad to see somebody is. I don't know if he's been hurt, but I haven't seen Lastings' name in a box score for a long while. Later

Ashie62 Sep 28 2010 07:42 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Maybe the inability of the Mets to stay healthy is just a case of really, really, bad luck.

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 07:43 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

They don't publish the rankings online. This article had them in the 16-25 range. I wouldn't be surprised to see somebody run with that with an assumption of "25." It also said, "Solid top 10, but the Mets don't have anyone likely to help in New York in 2010." That's a surprise for the Davis and Niese families. Everybody has problems staying healthy. It's not just luck but it's not just foresight and skill either.

Ashie62 Sep 28 2010 07:43 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

At least, it threatens to shake out something like this way if the season somehow opens with nothing changing except folks getting healthy. Starting Pitchers 43 R.A. Dickey DoB:10/29/1974 33 John Maine DoB:5/8/1981 49 Jon Niese DoB:10/27/1986 34 Mike Pelfrey DoB:1/14/1984 57 Johan Santana DoB:3/13/1979 Relief Pitchers 36 Manny Acosta DoB:5/1/1981 50 Sean Green DoB:4/20/1979 48 Pat Misch DoB:8/18/1981 39 Bobby Parnell DoB:9/8/1984 Oliver Perez DoB:8/15/1981 Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders 75 Fran. Rodriguez DoB:1/7/1982 47 His. Takahashi DoB:4/2/1975 13 Mike Nickeas DoB:2/13/1983 30 Josh Thole DoB:10/28/1986 1 Luis Castillo DoB:9/12/1975 Infielders 29 Ike Davis DoB:3/22/1987 3 Luis Hernandez DoB:6/26/1984 28 Daniel Murphy DoB:4/1/1985 7 Jose Reyes DoB:6/11/1983 5 David Wright DoB:12/20/1982 Oufielders 44 Jason Bay DoB:9/20/1978 15 Carlos Beltran DoB:4/24/1977 23 Chris Carter DoB:9/16/1982 6 Nick Evans DoB:1/30/1986 16 Angel Pagan DoB:7/2/1981 Yeah, that's the way it's gonna happen. That was said tongue in cheek, right?

Ashie62 Sep 28 2010 07:45 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

That does like look like the Delta House pledge class and I'm tossing beer at most of them.

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 07:46 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

That was said tongue in cheek, right? The last line? Yes. The idea of the thread is just trying to frame where things stand now, while being keenly aware that many changes are on the way.

MFS62 Sep 28 2010 07:48 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

If I'm going to be in a bar fight, I want Carter on my side. Look at those eyes. He could play a serial killer on a TV cop show. Later

Ashie62 Sep 28 2010 07:53 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

MFS62 wrote: If I'm going to be in a bar fight, I want Carter on my side. Look at those eyes. He could play a serial killer on a TV cop show. Later Ya know, Dickey might get animal in a barfight. With Jose Reyes as "huggybear"

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 28 2010 09:59 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Ceetar wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: Gwreck wrote: Really? Bay, Beltran, Wright and Reyes are all very good-to-excellent players. If healthy and playing (reasonably) well, the Mets should be ok. If. The 500-pound millstone around all Mets teams from the dawn of time. That quote could apply to 2010 as well. And in various forms, 2002, 1992, 1972, to name just a few. And it could apply to just about any team ever. Wright and Bay are healthy guys (concussions are odd What if the Phillies don't resign or find an adequate replacement for Werth and Utley doesn't stay healthy all season and Halladay starts to show his age? This year's Phils team saw significant time loss from Utley, Rollins, Madson, and Lidge, and saw lesser but significant time loss from Howard and Dick Torino; it also saw underperformance issues from Lidge, parts of the bullpen, and the entire back half of the rotation creep in at various points, as well as a teamwide month-long slump in May and June. If you called them this morning to ask them how those problems struck 'em, they probably wouldn't pick up the phone, because they'd have champagne hangovers.

Ceetar Sep 28 2010 10:00 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Ceetar wrote: Lefty Specialist wrote: Gwreck wrote: Really? Bay, Beltran, Wright and Reyes are all very good-to-excellent players. If healthy and playing (reasonably) well, the Mets should be ok. If. The 500-pound millstone around all Mets teams from the dawn of time. That quote could apply to 2010 as well. And in various forms, 2002, 1992, 1972, to name just a few. And it could apply to just about any team ever. Wright and Bay are healthy guys (concussions are odd What if the Phillies don't resign or find an adequate replacement for Werth and Utley doesn't stay healthy all season and Halladay starts to show his age? This year's Phils team saw significant time loss from Utley, Rollins, Madson, and Lidge, and saw lesser but significant time loss from Howard and Dick Torino; it also saw underperformance issues from Lidge, parts of the bullpen, and the entire back half of the rotation creep in at various points, as well as a teamwide month-long slump in May and June. If you called them this morning to ask them how those problems struck 'em, they probably wouldn't pick up the phone, because they'd have champagne hangovers. When they had howard out, did they bat his replacement fourth?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 28 2010 10:02 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Har. No, not mostly. But they also had Ross Gload, and traded for Mike Sweeney. The safety net-- both preemptively placed and hastily supplemented-- transitioned nicely to bench scaffolding once he came back full-time. We had Jacobs and a balky Tatis (if healthy, he's solid...) there. Better living through roster engineering, y'know?

MFS62 Sep 28 2010 10:14 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Har. No, not mostly. But they also had Ross Gload, and traded for Mike Sweeney. Better living through roster engineering, y'know? Last night ESPN tried to engineer their roster more than you can imagine. During the post game celebration, they were interviewing the players. When Sweeney was being interviewed, they put up a graphic that said "DH - Mike Sweeney". Don't those guys even know the Phillies play in the National League? Sheesh! Later

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 10:22 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

I don't think anybody is suggesting the Mets of 2011, as they currently stand, look as good or as redundant and ready for adversity as the 2010 Phils.

MFS62 Sep 28 2010 10:26 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

The rainout yesterday leaves the Mets without a starter on Saturday. Pelfrey today and Sunday Neise and Dickey for the Wednesday doubleheader Gee and Misch on Thursday and Friday Ollie on Saturday ? It would be very interesting. Later

Ashie62 Sep 28 2010 11:35 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

MFS62 wrote: The rainout yesterday leaves the Mets without a starter on Saturday. Pelfrey today and Sunday Neise and Dickey for the Wednesday doubleheader Gee and Misch on Thursday and Friday Ollie on Saturday ? It would be very interesting. Later I am available. Beyond that can Duda pitch?

Ashie62 Sep 28 2010 11:38 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Gwreck wrote: Really? Bay, Beltran, Wright and Reyes are all very good-to-excellent players. If healthy and playing (reasonably) well, the Mets should be ok. I would really, really, like to believe that.

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 11:41 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Thanks for restoring the thread to threadness.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 28 2010 11:54 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Ashie62 wrote: Gwreck wrote: Really? Bay, Beltran, Wright and Reyes are all very good-to-excellent players. If healthy and playing (reasonably) well, the Mets should be ok. I would really, really, like to believe that. Same. Even if they do play up to their utmost potential, though... without above-average support (Davis improving, Pagan and Dickey supplying at least what they did this year, getting average-to-good performances out of 3/4 of the other rotation-dwellers, a deep and resilient and cheapish bench), that's a team that's good enough to finish second to a weaker Phils team than they've got now. And, as Lefty the new guy said, it's a big "if."

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 12:03 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Yeah, well I'm in. All the way in.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2010 12:20 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

We were counting on the ifs for 2010, and that didn't work out. Not to say that 2011 can't be different. There may be reason to be hopeful, but at this point there seems to be little reason to be optimistic. (But let's see what the offseason brings...)

Lefty Specialist Sep 28 2010 12:35 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

I'm pessimistic if that's the roster. I know it won't be. But if you're missing Johan for at least half the year, things get pretty scary. In 2011, Pelfrey, Dickey, Niese, Gee, '?' is at least as risky as Santana, Pelfrey, Perez, Maine, Niese was at the beginning of this year. Yes, they got unexpected contributions from Dickey and Takahashi, but those kind of things aren't a given. Someone else made the point about the Phils. Their injuries this year were at least as significant as those suffered by the Mets, but while they kept on trucking, the Mets capsized. And even healthy, the Mets have difficulty with things like hitting with men in scoring position or with the bases loaded.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 28 2010 12:48 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

The problem isn't having "if"s. The problem is, jointly, having "if"s on which you absolutely must rely and the distance between the best-case "if" and the bottom-floor of "if not." The Phils-- and teams built like 'em--seem to have multiple "outs" each season that allow them to absorb even absurd injury waves; even when they were missing 3/4 of the starting infield, they still ran Polanco, a red-hot Werth, a capable Ibanez and Victorino out there most nights. In short, they're Marianas-Trench deep (if you haven't already, look at the amount of times over the last 3-4 seasons Utley's-- hell, Utley AND Rollins-- have missed significant time over the last few years... all division winners).

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 01:20 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

We hit our storms and Jerry was skippering the ship. Remember that. Jerry. Sending Francoeur out there 3,000 games in a row.

Fman99 Sep 28 2010 01:24 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

God damn, please, please, ship Ollie and Luis Castillo off to paid-to-not-be-in-my-face land. I see their faces on page 1 and I get erect with rage.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 28 2010 01:26 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Edgy DC wrote: We hit our storms and Jerry was skippering the ship. Remember that. Jerry. Sending Francoeur out there 3,000 games in a row. That is also true. That is also a lot of games.

Ceetar Sep 28 2010 01:28 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The problem isn't having "if"s. The problem is, jointly, having "if"s on which you absolutely must rely and the distance between the best-case "if" and the bottom-floor of "if not." The Phils-- and teams built like 'em--seem to have multiple "outs" each season that allow them to absorb even absurd injury waves; even when they were missing 3/4 of the starting infield, they still ran Polanco, a red-hot Werth, a capable Ibanez and Victorino out there most nights. In short, they're Marianas-Trench deep (if you haven't already, look at the amount of times over the last 3-4 seasons Utley's-- hell, Utley AND Rollins-- have missed significant time over the last few years... all division winners). they did start Wilson Valdez a whole ton. It certainly feels like they got more out of him then we did.

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 01:32 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

We really have to get away from scapegoatage on the players. How many games has Ollie even been allowed into in this disastrous second half? How many game have they lost because of this mythical other 25th roster spot holder that he kept off the team? It's not even on Francoeur for how bad he played. Texas is proving there's a role for him on a winning team. It's the leadership that allows successful players to emerge and that generates the conditions for their success. If this happens, you won't resent underperforming players (who happen every year),because they'll fade from relevance. Jerry has failed terribly in this regard.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 28 2010 01:42 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Edgy DC wrote: We hit our storms and Jerry was skippering the ship. Remember that. Jerry. Sending Francoeur out there 3,000 games in a row. In the end, Jerry Manuel was exposed to be the typical bumbling manager that Met fans, over the last 20 years, have come to expect. But in Jerry's defense, he had little to work with in 2010, and wasn't dealt a contending team. Catcher and second base were black holes. Jason Bay was a bigger bust than George Foster was, whether due to injuries, diminished skills or the Citi Field psych-out. Angel Pagan's a 4th outfielder; his playing time against left-handed pitching ought to be kept to a minimum. (I realize that Jerry might be blamed for this one, but if not Angel against lefties, then who? And would it have made enough of a difference to overcome the other deficiencies)? Reyes was not at full strength for one third of the season. And for all of the promise and potential that Ike Davis exhibits, he's a below average hitting first baseman this season and therefore, more liability than asset relative to the NL's other first baseman. Jeff Francoeur should not be getting several hundred plate appearances in a given season and Manuel probably got less rather than more out of the talent that he was managing. But the Mets problems run deeper than those two.

Gwreck Sep 28 2010 02:09 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

batmagadanleadoff wrote: and therefore, more liability than asset relative to the NL's other first baseman. WAR tells us Ike is #8 in the NL this year. He is behind Pujols, Votto, Gonzalez, Huff, Fielder, Howard and Dunn. Ahead of LaRoche, Glaus, Lee (CHC), Sanchez, Berkman (pre-trade), Helton, Loney, and Jones.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 28 2010 02:14 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Gwreck wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: and therefore, more liability than asset relative to the NL's other first baseman. WAR tells us Ike is #8 in the NL this year. He is behind Pujols, Votto, Gonzalez, Huff, Fielder, Howard and Dunn. Ahead of LaRoche, Glaus, Lee (CHC), Sanchez, Berkman (pre-trade), Helton, Loney, and Jones. Ike Davis is a terrific fielder. WAR includes defense. I was writing about his hitting. Right now, Ike's about the 9th or 10th best hitting 1B in the NL, up from the very bottom of the barrel. He's having an excellent September. Still, you're not gonna make the playoffs with players that are 8th best WAR at their positions.

Ceetar Sep 28 2010 02:18 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: and therefore, more liability than asset relative to the NL's other first baseman. WAR tells us Ike is #8 in the NL this year. He is behind Pujols, Votto, Gonzalez, Huff, Fielder, Howard and Dunn. Ahead of LaRoche, Glaus, Lee (CHC), Sanchez, Berkman (pre-trade), Helton, Loney, and Jones. Ike Davis is a terrific fielder. WAR includes defense. I was writing about his hitting. Right now, Ike's about the 9th or 10th best hitting 1B in the NL, up from the very bottom of the barrel. He's having an excellent September. Still, you're not gonna make the playoffs with players that are 8th best WAR at their positions. It's about the team, now how each individual position matches up. I mean, Pagan's top 8 in WAR leaguewise isn't he? He was fluttering around there for a while actually, and was much higher around the time he was snubbed for the All-Star game.

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 02:24 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Jeff Francoeur should not be getting several hundred plate appearances in a given season and Manuel probably got less rather than more out of the talent that he was managing. But the Mets problems run deeper than those two. I brought up Francoeur not to hang him, but to argue against hanging. Regarding Ike, I actually think you need plenty of eighth-best guys. And I think there's a good chance he's better than eighth next year.

Gwreck Sep 28 2010 03:07 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

batmagadanleadoff wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: and therefore, more liability than asset relative to the NL's other first baseman. WAR tells us Ike is #8 in the NL this year. He is behind Pujols, Votto, Gonzalez, Huff, Fielder, Howard and Dunn. Ahead of LaRoche, Glaus, Lee (CHC), Sanchez, Berkman (pre-trade), Helton, Loney, and Jones. Ike Davis is a terrific fielder. WAR includes defense. I was writing about his hitting. Right now, Ike's about the 9th or 10th best hitting 1B in the NL, up from the very bottom of the barrel. He's having an excellent September. Still, you're not gonna make the playoffs with players that are 8th best WAR at their positions. I know WAR includes defense. It would be fair to judge Ike on an all-around basis if determining whether he's a liability or asset vis-a-vis the competition, right?

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 03:21 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

He's certainly not a libablity. Let's not confuse average starters with average players --- or average players with hurtful ones.

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2010 03:27 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

If you just wont to look at offense and compare him to other NL 1Bs w/more than 400 PAs, Ike lands 9th of 16 in RC/27 (Runs Created per game) Votto (9.49) - Pujols - A Gonzalez - Fielder - Huff - Dunn - Howard - G Sanchez ** IKE (5.54) ** LaRoche - Helton - Glaus - Loney - Lee - Cantu - G Jones (4.17) Not bad for a rookie with less than 300 PAs in the upper minors who was called up probably a half-season before things were planned. The hope is that he improves with time and increased ABs rather than stalling out there. His strong finish following a mid-season swoon/adjustment period could be read as a positive sign of that. And, yeah, the glove helps too.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 28 2010 04:10 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

I've been woefully out of it. Is John Maine even throwing or did he have to get the arm cut on again?

Ceetar Sep 28 2010 04:14 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I've been woefully out of it. Is John Maine even throwing or did he have to get the arm cut on again? I don't believe he's throwing. A Phillies team doctor found a problem with his shoulder (that was missed by the previous tests due to the location of it. oddly blocked by the MRI or something) that was never repaired and he had surgery to fix it back in July or something.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 28 2010 04:26 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Thx. Agree with Lefty Spesh that Johan's hurty arm and unknown return date/form is hugehugehuge. Like Murphy as a super sorta utility guy if he's OK, and think the OF could be deep & strong next year, especially if Evans gets some ABs and shows he's fo' real. I don't know what to make of Thole yet. Scared for 2K11.

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 04:29 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

There's probably a good chance that the ever-silent Mets are envisioning Murphy as the first-team secondbaseman. The secondbase situation is probably the biggest (or near-biggest) place where the current picture will be different on opening day.

Ceetar Sep 28 2010 04:32 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Edgy DC wrote: There's probably a good chance that the ever-silent Mets are envisioning Murphy as the first-team secondbaseman. The secondbase situation is probably the biggest (or near-biggest) place where the current picture will be different on opening day. I have no idea what the Mets are thinking. I'd explore what options are out there, while monitoring Murphy in winter leagues while shopping Castillo. I think the bullpen picture will be the differentest, but that's almost always the case.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 28 2010 04:35 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Another injury Q for anyone in the know.... is Murphy doing 'baseball activities' not XBox related? Or he still recovering?? Would be surprised if 2B isn't filled from the outside.

Ceetar Sep 28 2010 04:36 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Another injury Q for anyone in the know.... is Murphy doing 'baseball activities' not XBox related? Or he still recovering?? Would be surprised if 2B isn't filled from the outside. Last I heard on Daniel Murphy was that he was doing baseball stuff in Port St. Lucie, although not games or what not.

A Boy Named Seo Sep 28 2010 04:43 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Ceetar wrote: A Boy Named Seo wrote: Another injury Q for anyone in the know.... is Murphy doing 'baseball activities' not XBox related? Or he still recovering?? Would be surprised if 2B isn't filled from the outside. Last I heard on Daniel Murphy was that he was doing baseball stuff in Port St. Lucie, although not games or what not. Ah, good.

Edgy DC Sep 28 2010 04:44 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Murphy is in Fort Myers, Fla., with the Mets’ instructional league team, where he will again play second base. Murphy then is due to get further experience at that position in the Dominican Republic this winter with Aguilas. The Dominican team intends to let Murphy play second base (...) "When I talked to him, he said that was his biggest thing for going to winter ball -- to play second base. He's not worried about hitting," Mets infield coach Chip Hale said. "He's worried about playing second base." That instructional camp is being overseen by Terry Collins, who I take somewhat more seriously than the standard observer as a possible candidate for Skipper2011.

Gwreck Sep 28 2010 08:44 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Frayed Knot wrote: If you just wont to look at offense and compare him to other NL 1Bs w/more than 400 PAs, Ike lands 9th of 16 in RC/27 (Runs Created per game) Votto (9.49) - Pujols - A Gonzalez - Fielder - Huff - Dunn - Howard - G Sanchez ** IKE (5.54) ** LaRoche - Helton - Glaus - Loney - Lee - Cantu - G Jones (4.17) Cantu was the Marlins third baseman this year before he got traded to Texas. Lance Berkman is the guy missing from the rankings but I don't think that changes where Ike falls.

MFS62 Sep 28 2010 10:04 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

For a while a few games back, Ike's numbers were very similar to Murphy's until Ike got hot again. Now Ike has moved ahead. But not by very much. Ike Davis:.797 OPS http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... ik02.shtml Daniel Murphy: .768 OPS http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... da08.shtml I hope Murphy can make it back and play second. Later

Edgy DC Oct 03 2010 10:22 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Projected 2011 25-Man Roster Starting Pitchers 43 R.A. Dickey DoB:10/29/1974 33 John Maine DoB:5/8/1981 49 Jon Niese DoB:10/27/1986 34 Mike Pelfrey DoB:1/14/1984 57 Johan Santana DoB:3/13/1979 Relief Pitchers 36 Manny Acosta DoB:5/1/1981 50 Sean Green DoB:4/20/1979 48 Pat Misch DoB:8/18/1981 39 Bobby Parnell DoB:9/8/1984 Oliver Perez DoB:8/15/1981 Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders 75 Fran. Rodriguez DoB:1/7/1982 47 His. Takahashi DoB:4/2/1975 13 Mike Nickeas DoB:2/13/1983 30 Josh Thole DoB:10/28/1986 1 Luis Castillo DoB:9/12/1975 Infielders 29 Ike Davis DoB:3/22/1987 3 Luis Hernandez DoB:6/26/1984 28 Daniel Murphy DoB:4/1/1985 7 Jose Reyes DoB:6/11/1983 5 David Wright DoB:12/20/1982 Oufielders 44 Jason Bay DoB:9/20/1978 15 Carlos Beltran DoB:4/24/1977 23 Chris Carter DoB:9/16/1982 6 Nick Evans DoB:1/30/1986 16 Angel Pagan DoB:7/2/1981 Also on 40-Man Roster Starting Pitchers Relief Pitchers 35 Dillon Gee DoB:4/28/1986 32 Jenrry Mejia DoB:10/11/1989 18 Ryota Igarashi DoB:5/28/1979 40 Eddie Kunz (OO) DoB:4/8/1986 22 Raul Valdes DoB:11/27/1977 Rel. Pit. Catchers Infielders 29 Tobi Stoner DoB:12/3/1984 9 O. San- tos (OO) DoB:4/29/1981 12 Joaquin Arias (OO) DoB:9/21/1984 19 M. Hess- man (OO) DoB:3/5/1978 11 Ruben Tejada DoB:10/27/1989 Infielders Outfielders Infielders 2 Justin Turner DoB:11/23/1984 21 Lucas Duda DoB:2/3/1986 27 Jesus Feliciano DoB:6/6/1979 26 Fern. Martinez DoB:10/10/1988 92 Jason Pridie DoB:9/12/1975

Ashie62 Oct 03 2010 10:39 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

The photos of the last row are hilarious.

Edgy DC Oct 05 2010 09:34 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Eligible for Free Agency Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders 64 Elmer Dessens DoB:1/13/1971 45 Kelvim Escobar DoB:4/11/1976 25 Pedro Feliciano DoB:4/25/1976 4 Henry Blanco DoB:8/29/1971 17 Fern. Tatis DoB:1/1/1975 How about that? All Latinos. You'd've figured Omar would've locke them all up before he left.

Ashie62 Oct 05 2010 10:56 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

None likely to be back, with the possible exception of Dessens.

A Boy Named Seo Oct 05 2010 11:01 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

por que no Feliciano?

seawolf17 Oct 06 2010 05:48 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

I'll always like Feliciano, but I think he's outlived his usefulness. Let some other team give him a Chad Bradford deal.

bmfc1 Oct 06 2010 06:14 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

seawolf17 wrote: I'll always like Feliciano, but I think he's outlived his usefulness. Let some other team give him a Chad Bradford deal. Agreed. Sooner than later, his arm will fall off. Literally!

metsmarathon Oct 06 2010 08:08 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

pedro didn't have a bad year. he was ridiculously effective against lefties, holding them to an 0.574 OPS, and stranded all but 9 of his 50 inherited runners. (18% vs 32% league average) i mean, i'm not saying the metsies should throw buckets of money after him, and if another team is willing to do so, then they can have him, but for a reasonable sum of money, the mets could do far worse than to bring him back as part of bullpen2011

G-Fafif Oct 06 2010 08:30 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

The Daily News has carefully analyzed K-Rod's status and has come up with the most on-target assessment anyone could ask for: FRANCISCO RODRIGUEZ: If he is sent to prison, he will obviously not pitch.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2010 08:41 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

He better hope nobody makes him catch, if you know what I mean.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 06 2010 09:53 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Because he's not very good at blocking pitches in the dirt, and would probably up his prison team's unearned-runs total considerably?

Edgy DC Nov 03 2010 07:53 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Updated to celebrate Reyes' opton being picked up. Projected 2011 25-Man Roster Starting Pitchers 43 R.A. Dickey DoB:10/29/1974 33 John Maine DoB:5/8/1981 49 Jon Niese DoB:10/27/1986 34 Mike Pelfrey DoB:1/14/1984 57 Johan Santana DoB:3/13/1979 Relief Pitchers 36 Manny Acosta DoB:5/1/1981 50 Sean Green DoB:4/20/1979 48 Pat Misch DoB:8/18/1981 39 Bobby Parnell DoB:9/8/1984 Oliver Perez DoB:8/15/1981 Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders 75 Fran. Rodriguez DoB:1/7/1982 47 His. Takahashi DoB:4/2/1975 13 Mike Nickeas DoB:2/13/1983 30 Josh Thole DoB:10/28/1986 1 Luis Castillo DoB:9/12/1975 Infielders 29 Ike Davis DoB:3/22/1987 3 Luis Hernandez DoB:6/26/1984 28 Daniel Murphy DoB:4/1/1985 7 Jose Reyes DoB:6/11/1983 5 David Wright DoB:12/20/1982 Oufielders 44 Jason Bay DoB:9/20/1978 15 Carlos Beltran DoB:4/24/1977 23 Chris Carter DoB:9/16/1982 6 Nick Evans DoB:1/30/1986 16 Angel Pagan DoB:7/2/1981 Also on 40-Man Roster Starting Pitchers Relief Pitchers 35 Dillon Gee DoB:4/28/1986 32 Jenrry Mejia DoB:10/11/1989 18 Ryota Igarashi DoB:5/28/1979 40 Eddie Kunz (=#FF8000]OO) DoB:4/8/1986 22 Raul Valdes DoB:11/27/1977 Rel. Pit. Catchers Infielders 29 Tobi Stoner DoB:12/3/1984 9 O. San- tos (=#FF8000]OO) DoB:4/29/1981 12 Joaquin Arias (=#FF8000]OO) DoB:9/21/1984 19 M. Hess- man (=#FF8000]OO) DoB:3/5/1978 11 Ruben Tejada DoB:10/27/1989 Infielders Outfielders Infielders 2 Justin Turner DoB:11/23/1984 21 Lucas Duda DoB:2/3/1986 27 Jesus Feliciano DoB:6/6/1979 26 Fern. Martinez DoB:10/10/1988 92 Jason Pridie DoB:9/12/1975 Eligible for Free Agency Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders 64 Elmer Dessens DoB:1/13/1971 45 Kelvim Escobar DoB:4/11/1976 25 Pedro Feliciano DoB:4/25/1976 4 Henry Blanco DoB:8/29/1971 17 Fern. Tatis DoB:1/1/1975 Projected Staff Manager Bench Coach Batting Coach Pitching Coach Third Base Coach 56 Dave Jauss DoB:1/16/1957 54 Ken Oberkfell DoB:5/4/1956 20 Howard Johnson DoB:11/29/1960 59 Dan Warthan DoB:12/1/1952 51 Chip Hale DoB:12/2/1964 First Base Coach Bullpen Coach 11 Tim Teufel DoB:7/7/1958 55 Randy Niemann DoB:12/15/1955

metirish Nov 03 2010 08:19 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

By Adam Rubin The Mets added right-hander Manny Alvarez to the 40-man roster on Wednesday. Alvarez, 24, went a combined 6-4 with a 2.17 ERA while appearing at three levels of the Mets minor league system -- Class A St. Lucie, Double-A Binghamton and Triple-A Buffalo. The Venezuelan pitcher converted 17 of 21 save chances while logging 78 2/3 innings. He struck out 84, allowed 55 hits, 19 earned runs while walking 12. The Mets' 40-man roster is full at 40 at the moment. The deadline for adding players to the 40-man roster to protect them from the Rule 5 draft is Nov. 19. "We'll be taking some players off the roster before then, so we'll have room to add some more guys to the roster," a team official said.

MFS62 Nov 03 2010 09:44 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Nice job, Edgy, but the pitching and batting coaches are switched. I hope Luis Hernandez sticks as a reserve infielder. Anyone who can break his foot, continue the at-bat, hit a homer and then limp around the bases has earned a spot on my team - any time. And I'm hoping Alderson, being an ex-Marine will appreciate that toughness. Later

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2010 07:30 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

NY Post -- In addition to losing Arias through waivers, the Mets also sent five players to Triple-A Buffalo after they cleared waivers: RHP Eddie Kunz, LHP Raul Valdes, INF Mike Hessman, OF Jesus Feliciano and C Omir Santos. The club now has 34 players on its 40-man roster.

Ashie62 Nov 05 2010 08:10 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Eddie Kunz=Bust

Vic Sage Nov 05 2010 08:15 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Eddie Kunz=Bust are you saying that Kunz Kan't?

Edgy DC Nov 05 2010 08:50 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Frayed Knot wrote: NY Post -- In addition to losing Arias through waivers, the Mets also sent five players to Triple-A Buffalo after they cleared waivers: RHP Eddie Kunz, LHP Raul Valdes, INF Mike Hessman, OF Jesus Feliciano and C Omir Santos. The club now has 34 players on its 40-man roster. I got some work to do. Funny that they cleared so much space at once. Maybe it was a wire-flooding maneuver, and felt that there was less risk if all the names were out there at once and the waivers went through before anybody else had trimmed their rosters.

seawolf17 Nov 05 2010 08:58 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

So much for Santos as a trading chip. Anyone that wanted him could have had him.

Vic Sage Nov 05 2010 09:02 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

As of now, there are 34 players on the 40-man roster. Here is a list of players to be considered for protection from the Rule V draft: [u:prwqm54h]2006 IFAs:[/u:prwqm54h] rhsp Eduardo Aldama lhsp Orlando Tovar rhrp Richard Pena rhrp Rhiner Cruz rhrp Gabriel Zavala rhrp Elvin Ramirez c Francisco Pena c Juan Torres ss Ray Van Gurp ss Luis Nieves of Carlos Guzman, of Raul Reyes of Rafael Fernandez of Juan Lagares of Pedro Zapata of Julio Concepcion [u:prwqm54h]2006 HSers: [/u:prwqm54h] of Brahiam Maldonado rhrp Nick Carr rhsp John Holdzkom ss Jake Eigsti rhrp Edgar Ramirez rhsp Josh Stinson [u:prwqm54h]2007 college: [/u:prwqm54h] rhrp Brant Rustich lhrp Eric Niesen 3b Zach Lutz rhrp Guillaume LeDuc rhrp Dan McDonald ss Matt Bouchard rhrp Will Morgan c Jordan Abruzzo lhsp Michael Antonini rhsp Dylan Owen lhrp Roy Merritt

seawolf17 Nov 05 2010 09:18 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

I'd think Lutz is a guy they'd hold on to. Don't know if he's ML-ready, but could be intriguing enough for a smaller club to give him a shot.

Edgy DC Nov 05 2010 09:34 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

I would love to see a team try to carry Holdzkom on the roster for a season. In five years, he's totaled 126 innings, 87 of them in one season. He'd go totally LaLoosh, striking out 11 guys per nine innings, walk eight, get in a few brawls, and his arm would explode by June.

Edgy DC Nov 05 2010 08:58 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Worth noting that Manny Alvarez went unscored upon in 25 2/3 innings in the Florida State League this season. November 3 =#FF8000]Added to 40- Man Roster Relief Pitchers (93) Manny Alvarez DoB:12/18/1985 November 4 =#FF8000]Lost to Kansas City via Waivers Infielders 12 Joaquin Arias DoB:9/21/1984 November 5 =#FF8000]Removed from 40-Man Roster Starting Pitchers Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders Outfielders 40 Eddie Kunz DoB:4/8/1986 22 Raul Valdes DoB:11/27/1977 9 O. San- tos DoB:4/29/1981 19 M. Hess- man DoB:3/5/1978 27 Jesus Feliciano DoB:6/6/1979 =#FF8000]Released =#FF8000]Added to Projected Roster 47 His. Takahashi DoB:4/2/1975 18 Ryota Igarashi DoB:5/28/1979 Projected 2011 25-Man Roster Starting Pitchers 43 R.A. Dickey DoB:10/29/1974 33 John Maine DoB:5/8/1981 49 Jon Niese DoB:10/27/1986 34 Mike Pelfrey DoB:1/14/1984 57 Johan Santana DoB:3/13/1979 Relief Pitchers 36 Manny Acosta DoB:5/1/1981 50 Sean Green DoB:4/20/1979 18 Ryota Igarashi DoB:5/28/1979 48 Pat Misch DoB:8/18/1981 39 Bobby Parnell DoB:9/8/1984 Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders Oliver Perez DoB:8/15/1981 75 Fran. Rodriguez DoB:1/7/1982 13 Mike Nickeas DoB:2/13/1983 30 Josh Thole DoB:10/28/1986 1 Luis Castillo DoB:9/12/1975 Infielders 29 Ike Davis DoB:3/22/1987 3 Luis Hernandez DoB:6/26/1984 28 Daniel Murphy DoB:4/1/1985 7 Jose Reyes DoB:6/11/1983 5 David Wright DoB:12/20/1982 Oufielders 44 Jason Bay DoB:9/20/1978 15 Carlos Beltran DoB:4/24/1977 23 Chris Carter DoB:9/16/1982 6 Nick Evans DoB:1/30/1986 16 Angel Pagan DoB:7/2/1981 Also on 40-Man Roster Starting Pitchers Relief Pitchers Infielders 35 Dillon Gee DoB:4/28/1986 32 Jenrry Mejia DoB:10/11/1989 (93) Manny Alvarez DoB:12/18/1985 29 Tobi Stoner DoB:12/3/1984 11 Ruben Tejada DoB:10/27/1989 Infielders Outfielders 2 Justin Turner DoB:11/23/1984 21 Lucas Duda DoB:2/3/1986 26 Fern. Martinez DoB:10/10/1988 92 Jason Pridie DoB:9/12/1975 Eligible for Free Agency Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders 64 Elmer Dessens DoB:1/13/1971 45 Kelvim Escobar DoB:4/11/1976 25 Pedro Feliciano DoB:4/25/1976 47 His. Takahashi DoB:4/2/1975 4 Henry Blanco DoB:8/29/1971 17 Fern. Tatis DoB:1/1/1975 Projected Staff Manager Bench Coach Batting Coach Pitching Coach Third Base Coach 56 Dave Jauss DoB:1/16/1957 54 Ken Oberkfell DoB:5/4/1956 20 Howard Johnson DoB:11/29/1960 59 Dan Warthan DoB:12/1/1952 51 Chip Hale DoB:12/2/1964 First Base Coach Bullpen Coach 11 Tim Teufel DoB:7/7/1958 55 Randy Niemann DoB:12/15/1955

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 05 2010 09:11 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Wait, Igarashi was released?

Edgy DC Nov 05 2010 09:14 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

No. A little trial and error in tablemaking. I'm giving him the projected promotion for now over Tobi Stoner and Manny Alvarez, but the truth is that the penmasters will be looking for lefthanders.

Edgy DC Nov 15 2010 08:56 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Interesting is that the current lineup leaves no (immediate) slot for Dave Jauss. Tough to go from the (brief) favorite to odd man out, but that's the way it shakes when it was Jerry who brought you in. Associations with Jerry Manuel and Grady Little are mixed blessings for ambitious men. How about me calling Tim Teufel at first weeks before the News did? Projected Staff Manager Bench Coach Batting Coach Pitching Coach Third Base Coach 77 Terry Collins DoB:5/27/1949 3 Bob Melvin DoB:8/28/1961 20 Howard Johnson DoB:11/29/1960 59 Dan Warthan DoB:12/1/1952 51 Chip Hale DoB:12/2/1964 First Base Coach Bullpen Coach 11 Tim Teufel DoB:7/7/1958 55 Randy Niemann DoB:12/15/1955

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 15 2010 08:59 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

bbr got Bob Melvin with a dob of 10/28/61.

Edgy DC Nov 15 2010 09:02 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Oops. To fix.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 15 2010 10:25 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

HoJo as batting coach seems pretty unlikely, doesn't it?

Edgy DC Nov 15 2010 11:19 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Yup, but as the staff is officially announced as "on hold," he's holding the place until someone becomes more likely.

Edgy DC Nov 20 2010 02:46 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Double post.

Edgy DC Nov 22 2010 12:58 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

We have capitation! November 21 Hired Not Pojected for Staff Projected for Staff Manager [crossout]Manager[/crossout] Bench Coach 77 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949 3 Bob Melvin DoB: 8/28/1961 54? Ken Oberkfell DoB: 5/4/1956 Projected 2011 Coaching Staff Manager Bench Coach Batting Coach Pitching Coach Third Base Coach 77 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949 54? Ken Oberkfell DoB: 5/4/1956 20 Howard Johnson DoB: 11/29/1960 59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952 51 Chip Hale DoB: 12/2/1964 First Base Coach Bullpen Coach 11 Tim Teufel DoB: 7/7/1958 55 Randy Niemann DoB: 12/15/1955 Projected 2011 25-Man Roster Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974 33 John Maine DoB: 5/8/1981 49 Jon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986 34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984 57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979 Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 36 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981 50 Sean Green DoB: 4/20/1979 18 Ryota Igarashi DoB: 5/28/1979 48 Pat Misch DoB: 8/18/1981 39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984 Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ Catchers =#BFBF80]_ Infielders Oliver Perez DoB: 8/15/1981 75 Francisco Rodriguez DoB: 1/7/1982 13 Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983 30 Josh Thole DoB: 10/28/1986 1 Luis Castillo DoB: 9/12/1975 Infielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 29 Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987 3 Luis Hernandez DoB: 6/26/1984 28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985 7 Jose Reyes DoB: 6/11/1983 5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982 Oufielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978 15 Carlos Beltran DoB: 4/24/1977 23 Chris Carter DoB: 9/16/1982 6 Nick Evans DoB: 1/30/1986 16 Angel Pagan DoB: 7/2/1981 Also on 40-Man Roster Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ Relief Pitchers 35 Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986 32 Jenrry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989 79 Armando Rodriguez DoB: 1/28/1988 65 Josh Stinson DoB: 3/14/1988 93 Manny Alvarez DoB: 12/18/1985 Relief Pitchers Infielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 29 Tobi Stoner DoB: 12/3/1984 63 Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986 11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989 2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984 19 Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987 Outfielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 21 Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986 26 Fernando Martinez DoB: 10/10/1988 92 Jason Pridie DoB: 9/12/1975 Free Agents Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ Catchers 64 Elmer Dessens DoB: 1/13/1971 45 Kelvim Escobar DoB: 4/11/1976 25 Pedro Feliciano DoB: 4/25/1976 47 Hisanori Takahashi DoB: 4/2/1975 4 Henry Blanco DoB: 8/29/1971 Infielders 17 Fernando Tatis DoB: 1/1/1975

Edgy DC Nov 26 2010 12:38 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

November 30 Update Signed to Minor League Deal and Invited to Camp Relief Pitchers 54 Michael O'Connor DoB:8/17/1980 Projected 2011 Coaching Staff Manager Bench Coach Batting Coach Pitching Coach Third Base Coach 10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949 =#FF8000]55 Ken Oberkfell DoB: 5/4/1956 =#FF8000]58 Jack Voight DoB: 5/17/1966 59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952 51 Chip Hale DoB: 12/2/1964 First Base Coach Bullpen Coach =#FF8000]51 Mookie Wilson DoB: 2/9/1956 =#FF8000]60 Duffy Dyer DoB: 8/15/1945 Projected 2011 25-Man Roster Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974 33 John Maine DoB: 5/8/1981 49 Jon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986 34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984 57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979 Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 36 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981 50 Sean Green DoB: 4/20/1979 18 Ryota Igarashi DoB: 5/28/1979 48 Pat Misch DoB: 8/18/1981 39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984 Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ Catchers =#BFBF80]_ Infielders Oliver Perez DoB: 8/15/1981 75 Francisco Rodriguez DoB: 1/7/1982 13 Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983 30 Josh Thole DoB: 10/28/1986 1 Luis Castillo DoB: 9/12/1975 Infielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 29 Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987 3 Luis Hernandez DoB: 6/26/1984 28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985 7 Jose Reyes DoB: 6/11/1983 5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982 Oufielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978 15 Carlos Beltran DoB: 4/24/1977 23 Chris Carter DoB: 9/16/1982 6 Nick Evans DoB: 1/30/1986 16 Angel Pagan DoB: 7/2/1981 Also on 40-Man Roster Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ Relief Pitchers 35 Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986 32 Jenrry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989 79 Armando Rodriguez DoB: 1/28/1988 65 Josh Stinson DoB: 3/14/1988 93 Manny Alvarez DoB: 12/18/1985 Relief Pitchers Infielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 29 Tobi Stoner DoB: 12/3/1984 63 Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986 11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989 2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984 19 Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987 Outfielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 21 Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986 26 Fernando Martinez DoB: 10/10/1988 92 Jason Pridie DoB: 9/12/1975 Also Invited to Camp Relief Pitchers 54 Michael O'Connor DoB: 8/17/1980 Free Agents Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ Catchers 64 Elmer Dessens DoB: 1/13/1971 45 Kelvim Escobar DoB: 4/11/1976 25 Pedro Feliciano DoB: 4/25/1976 47 Hisanori Takahashi DoB: 4/2/1975 4 Henry Blanco DoB: 8/29/1971 Infielders 17 Fernando Tatis DoB: 1/1/1975

Edgy DC Dec 01 2010 09:31 AM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Hey, you like white guys? Check out our starting rotation suddenly! December 1 Update Projected to Open Season on Disabled List Added to Projected Roster Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ 57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979 35 Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986 Projected 2011 Coaching Staff Manager Bench Coach Batting Coach Pitching Coach Third Base Coach 10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949 =#FF8000]55 Ken Oberkfell DoB: 5/4/1956 =#FF8000]58 Jack Voight DoB: 5/17/1966 59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952 51 Chip Hale DoB: 12/2/1964 First Base Coach Bullpen Coach =#FF8000]51 Mookie Wilson DoB: 2/9/1956 =#FF8000]60 Duffy Dyer DoB: 8/15/1945 Projected 2011 25-Man Roster Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974 35 Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986 33 John Maine DoB: 5/8/1981 49 Jon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986 34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984 Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 36 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981 50 Sean Green DoB: 4/20/1979 18 Ryota Igarashi DoB: 5/28/1979 48 Pat Misch DoB: 8/18/1981 39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984 Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ Catchers =#BFBF80]_ Infielders Oliver Perez DoB: 8/15/1981 75 Francisco Rodriguez DoB: 1/7/1982 13 Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983 30 Josh Thole DoB: 10/28/1986 1 Luis Castillo DoB: 9/12/1975 Infielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 29 Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987 3 Luis Hernandez DoB: 6/26/1984 28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985 7 Jose Reyes DoB: 6/11/1983 5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982 Oufielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978 15 Carlos Beltran DoB: 4/24/1977 23 Chris Carter DoB: 9/16/1982 6 Nick Evans DoB: 1/30/1986 16 Angel Pagan DoB: 7/2/1981 Also on 40-Man Roster Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ Relief Pitchers 32 Jenrry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989 79 Armando Rodriguez DoB: 1/28/1988 57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979 65 Josh Stinson DoB: 3/14/1988 93 Manny Alvarez DoB: 12/18/1985 Relief Pitchers Infielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 29 Tobi Stoner DoB: 12/3/1984 63 Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986 11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989 2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984 19 Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987 Outfielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 21 Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986 26 Fernando Martinez DoB: 10/10/1988 92 Jason Pridie DoB: 9/12/1975 Also Invited to Camp Relief Pitchers 54 Michael O'Connor DoB: 8/17/1980 Free Agents Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ Catchers 64 Elmer Dessens DoB: 1/13/1971 45 Kelvim Escobar DoB: 4/11/1976 25 Pedro Feliciano DoB: 4/25/1976 47 Hisanori Takahashi DoB: 4/2/1975 4 Henry Blanco DoB: 8/29/1971 Infielders 17 Fernando Tatis DoB: 1/1/1975

Edgy DC Dec 03 2010 12:06 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

Know who's having a good day today? Tobi F. Stoner --- that's who's having a good day. Do you hate Oliver Perez? Well, then, you're having a bad day. This team suddenly has some holes to fill. December 3 Update Non-Tendered and Now a Free Agent Transferred from Bullpen Added to Projected Roster Non-Tendered and Now a Free Agent Added to Projected Roster Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 33 John Maine DoB: 5/8/1981 Oliver Perez DoB: 8/15/1981 29 Tobi Stoner DoB: 12/3/1984 50 Sean Green DoB: 4/20/1979 54 Michael O'Connor DoB: 8/17/1980 Signed Away by Los Angeles (A) Non-Tendered and Now a Free Agent Added to Projected Roster Relief Pitchers Outfielders =#BFBF80]_ 47 Hisanori Takahashi DoB: 4/2/1975 23 Chris Carter DoB: 9/16/1982 92 Jason Pridie DoB: 9/12/1975 Projected 2011 Coaching Staff Manager Bench Coach Batting Coach Pitching Coach Third Base Coach 10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949 =#FF8000]55 Ken Oberkfell DoB: 5/4/1956 =#FF8000]58 Jack Voight DoB: 5/17/1966 59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952 51 Chip Hale DoB: 12/2/1964 First Base Coach Bullpen Coach =#FF8000]51 Mookie Wilson DoB: 2/9/1956 =#FF8000]60 Duffy Dyer DoB: 8/15/1945 Projected 2011 25-Man Roster Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974 35 Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986 49 Jon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986 34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984 Oliver Perez DoB: 8/15/1981 Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 36 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981 =#BFBF80]_ 18 Ryota Igarashi DoB: 5/28/1979 =#BFBF80]_ 48 Pat Misch DoB: 8/18/1981 =#BFBF80]_ 54 Michael O'Connor DoB: 8/17/1980 =red]Not on 40-Man 39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984 =#BFBF80]_ Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ Catchers =#BFBF80]_ Infielders 75 Francisco Rodriguez DoB: 1/7/1982 29 Tobi Stoner DoB: 12/3/1984 13 Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983 30 Josh Thole DoB: 10/28/1986 1 Luis Castillo DoB: 9/12/1975 Infielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 29 Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987 3 Luis Hernandez DoB: 6/26/1984 28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985 7 Jose Reyes DoB: 6/11/1983 5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982 Oufielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978 15 Carlos Beltran DoB: 4/24/1977 6 Nick Evans DoB: 1/30/1986 16 Angel Pagan DoB: 7/2/1981 92 Jason Pridie DoB: 9/12/1975 Also on 40-Man Roster ] Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ Relief Pitchers 32 Jenrry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989 79 Armando Rodriguez DoB: 1/28/1988 57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979 65 Josh Stinson DoB: 3/14/1988 93 Manny Alvarez DoB: 12/18/1985 Infielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ Outfielders 63 Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986 11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989 2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984 19 Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987 21 Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986 Outfielders 26 Fernando Martinez DoB: 10/10/1988 Also Invited to Camp Relief Pitchers 54 Michael O'Connor DoB: 8/17/1980 Free Agents Starting Pitchers Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 33 John Maine DoB: 5/8/1981 64 Elmer Dessens DoB: 1/13/1971 45 Kelvim Escobar DoB: 4/11/1976 50 Sean Green DoB: 4/20/1979 25 Pedro Feliciano DoB: 4/25/1976 Catchers Infielders Outfielders 4 Henry Blanco DoB: 8/29/1971 17 Fernando Tatis DoB: 1/1/1975 23 Chris Carter DoB: 9/16/1982

Edgy DC Dec 06 2010 06:41 PM Re: Projected 2011 Roster

This Dusty Ryan guy, besides being potentially the best cowboy name on the Mets since Galen Cisco, may already jump ahead of Mike Nickeas on the depth chart, but until the team gives us an idea which one they are interested in, I defer to the guy on the 40. Six-four: that's a big catcher. December 6 Update Signed to Minor League Deals and Invited to Camp =#BFBF80]_ Catchers Infielders 11 Dusty Ryan DoB: 9/2/1984 65 Russ Adams DoB: 8/30/1980 Projected 2011 Coaching Staff Manager Bench Coach Batting Coach Pitching Coach Third Base Coach 10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949 =#FF8000]55 Ken Oberkfell DoB: 5/4/1956 =#FF8000]58 Jack Voight DoB: 5/17/1966 59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952 51 Chip Hale DoB: 12/2/1964 First Base Coach Bullpen Coach =#FF8000]51 Mookie Wilson DoB: 2/9/1956 =#FF8000]60 Duffy Dyer DoB: 8/15/1945 Projected 2011 25-Man Roster Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974 35 Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986 49 Jon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986 34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984 Oliver Perez DoB: 8/15/1981 Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 36 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981 =#BFBF80]_ 18 Ryota Igarashi DoB: 5/28/1979 =#BFBF80]_ 48 Pat Misch DoB: 8/18/1981 =#BFBF80]_ 54 Michael O'Connor DoB: 8/17/1980 =red]Not on 40-Man 39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984 =#BFBF80]_ Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ Catchers =#BFBF80]_ Infielders 75 Francisco Rodriguez DoB: 1/7/1982 29 Tobi Stoner DoB: 12/3/1984 13 Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983 30 Josh Thole DoB: 10/28/1986 1 Luis Castillo DoB: 9/12/1975 Infielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 29 Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987 3 Luis Hernandez DoB: 6/26/1984 28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985 7 Jose Reyes DoB: 6/11/1983 5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982 Oufielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978 15 Carlos Beltran DoB: 4/24/1977 6 Nick Evans DoB: 1/30/1986 16 Angel Pagan DoB: 7/2/1981 92 Jason Pridie DoB: 9/12/1975 Also on 40-Man Roster ] Starting Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ Relief Pitchers 32 Jenrry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989 79 Armando Rodriguez DoB: 1/28/1988 57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979 65 Josh Stinson DoB: 3/14/1988 93 Manny Alvarez DoB: 12/18/1985 Infielders =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ Outfielders 63 Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986 11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989 2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984 19 Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987 21 Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986 Outfielders 26 Fernando Martinez DoB: 10/10/1988 Also Invited to Camp Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders 54 Michael O'Connor DoB: 8/17/1980 11 Dusty Ryan DoB: 9/2/1984 65 Russ Adams DoB: 8/30/1980 Free Agents Starting Pitchers Relief Pitchers =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ =#BFBF80]_ 33 John Maine DoB: 5/8/1981 64 Elmer Dessens DoB: 1/13/1971 45 Kelvim Escobar DoB: 4/11/1976 50 Sean Green DoB: 4/20/1979 25 Pedro Feliciano DoB: 4/25/1976 Catchers Infielders Outfielders 4 Henry Blanco DoB: 8/29/1971 17 Fernando Tatis DoB: 1/1/1975 23 Chris Carter DoB: 9/16/1982