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Jeff Francoeur, Vampire of Fortune

Edgy DC
Oct 27 2010 08:19 AM



The Giants' Ross, Rangers' Francoeur share a little luck
By Matt Gelb
Inquirer Staff Writer


SAN FRANCISCO - There was a time this season when Cody Ross and Jeff Francoeur were buried on the rosters of National League East teams, destined to play baseball through Game No. 162 and go home. (Editor: really? When was that?)

When the Florida Marlins and New York Mets went to Puerto Rico for a three-game series at the end of June, the two went to a casino after a game and played blackjack. (Editor: Oh, then! You mean when the Mets were a half game out of first and a game and half up in the Wildcard race? That ugly destiny?)

"Until about 5 in the morning," Francoeur said. "It was just the two of us." (Editor: You should have gone to bed, fucko. Your team was badly in need of your quotes the next day. And stop hanging out with Cody Ross!)

"Next thing you know," Ross said, "we have stacks of chips in front of us. We couldn't lose. It was one of the most fun times I had." (Editor: Great. Can the Mets get back their five million dollars that you also didn't earn?)

And now?

"Now we're both here playing in the World Series," Francoeur said. "Maybe that was our lucky night." (Editor: It's starting to seem like every night you're still playing is your lucky night, Jeff.)

The two outfielders were waived after July 31 by their old teams. The Giants, wanting to block San Diego from acquiring Ross, put in a claim. Ross went on to become the MVP of the NL Championship Series.

Francoeur hit .340 in 15 games for Texas, who worked a deal with the Mets to acquire the 26-year-old former Atlanta phenom.

Ross and Francoeur are righthanded outfielders, a commodity the Phillies could be in need of this off-season if Jayson Werth does not re-sign.

The Phils put a claim on Ross in August when the Marlins waived him, but San Francisco, with a slightly worse record, was awarded him.

The Giants beat the Padres on the final day of the season to clinch a playoff spot. Then, they beat the Braves in the division series, before taking down the Phillies. The one common thread? Ross.

"I knew the Padres were on me," Ross said. "Then we beat them. We went and played the Braves, who were on me, and ended up beating them. Then, the Phillies. It's been a pretty crazy last couple of months."

Ross is arbitration-eligible and has likely forced San Francisco to offer him a contract for 2011.

But Francoeur is a free agent and could attract the Phillies because of his age and his ability to hit lefthanded pitching. He is notorious for his low on-base percentage and his tendency to swing often in early counts. But in 120 at-bats against lefties, he hit .300 and has a career batting average of .229 against lefthanded pitching. (Editor: you mean .299!)

The World Series is another tryout for Francoeur.

"Absolutely," he said. "But at the end of the day, I don't really care. I think I'd be doing myself a disservice if I don't take these next 10 days and enjoy the heck out of them." (Editor: Not absolutely! You're playing for the Rangers, High Roller, not for the Phillies! GUH!)

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 27 2010 08:25 AM
Re: Jeff Francoeur, Vampire of Fortune

That's a killer hook for a story though. Geez.

Edgy DC
Oct 27 2010 08:31 AM
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No doubt. It's too bad he had to play in the idea of "he might be good for the Phillies" to get his editor to think it worthy.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 27 2010 08:34 AM
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That's the nature of the Philadelphia Inquirer sports section.

I guess it's no different than many local newspapers in that it really panders to a home-town bias. The thing is, it wasn't always like that. (I've been reading the Inquirer since 1988.) Their sports section has really degraded over the years.

Edgy DC
Oct 27 2010 08:38 AM
Re: Jeff Francoeur, Vampire of Fortune

One of those moments where you get a rare peek into the strange way baseball players privately talk ("He asked if I needed a blow, I said yeah, so he gave me a blow") from Cody Ross.
"I knew the Padres were on me," Ross said. "Then we beat them. We went and played the Braves, who were on me, and ended up beating them. Then, the Phillies. It's been a pretty crazy last couple of months."

Quite popular, Mr. Ross.

MFS62
Oct 27 2010 08:39 AM
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That is the same paper that thought it was funny when they fired a sportswriter and the headline was "__________ __________ Put on Waivers". (I just went blank on his name, but he also used to work in New York and did boxing commentary on tv matches)

Later

Edgy DC
Oct 27 2010 08:59 AM
Re: Jeff Francoeur, Vampire of Fortune

I'm really not trying to knock the Inquirer here. I'm certain 92% of the World Series articles in New York papers will work in local angles. I'm just really simultaneously grossed out and impressed at how Jeff Franquote knows just how to give the answer the reporter seems to lead him toward to get the angle he needs.

"So you played the tables and scored big that night? That must have been a turning point in luck for you?"

"Absolutely. Everything was awful and now everythinng is A-OK!"

"it must have been hard before that."

"Terrible. It just goes to show you."

"And now you're really just playing for a spot on the Phillies?"

"That would be great, wouldn't it!?"

Lefty Specialist
Oct 27 2010 09:10 AM
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Any way we could encourage the Phillies to sign Francoeur to a long-term contract?

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 27 2010 09:31 AM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Any way we could encourage the Phillies to sign Francoeur to a long-term contract?
Like the Phillies would be dumb enough to let Francoeur accumulate enough PA's to qualify for the batting title two times over.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 27 2010 10:06 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
That is the same paper that thought it was funny when they fired a sportswriter and the headline was "__________ __________ Put on Waivers". (I just went blank on his name, but he also used to work in New York and did boxing commentary on tv matches)

Later


Warner Wolf?

Centerfield
Oct 27 2010 10:08 AM
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Five years, 150 million for Jeff Francoeur. Sign him up Ruben!

Vic Sage
Oct 27 2010 02:00 PM
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hey, waitaminnit... that's Jeter money!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 28 2010 09:28 AM
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Oh, boy. Momentum... building?

We floated this scenario the other day in our coverage in the Daily News, and Manuel mentioned it today: A platoon in right field to replace Werth. Keep in mind the Phillies had an outfield rotation in 2007 and 2008... Don't be surprised though, if the Phillies target a lesser-named guy (think Jeff Francoeur or Matt Diaz) to provide some right-handed outfield depth to pair with a guy like Brown or Ross Gload.


Starting Gload? Potentially pulling a Mejia-ish growth-stunting with Dom Brown? Go to it, Ruben!

Valadius
Oct 28 2010 11:01 AM
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Ross Gload is still around? I remember him being part of the Epic Fail Offseason of 2001-2002.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 28 2010 11:10 AM
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He was this year's Dobbs/Stairs-- first lefty off the bench/corner IF-OF.

Frayed Knot
Oct 28 2010 02:26 PM
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I think Domonic Brown is considered a lot closer to ready than Mejia is/was.
Probably would have been better if they sent him back down after their injury crises were over, but I doubt that month or so of more AAA ABs would have made much of a difference.