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IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 08:51 AM

Might as well get this kicked off. What kinds of things would you like to hear Sandy say? I'm hoping for something like this: "I know that we're somewhat constrained by a few large contracts, but I do have a plan for the Mets to be competitive in 2011 while we build for 2012 and beyond."

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 08:58 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"While I'm here, I'd also like to introduce Bobby Valentine as our new manager."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2010 09:01 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"I know I have a reputation as a no-nonsense guy but I must tell you: I'm not wearing pants today."

Edgy DC Oct 29 2010 09:06 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I'd like to see the aurora rising behind him. I'd like to see the Spanish-languish media present and treated well. I'd like, if Jon Heyman asks a douchey question, to get told, "You know, that's a real douchey question." Even better if Mr. Met just mutely lifts his hands in astonishment to his huge face and then hangs the great orb downward, shaking it in disbelief, embarassed for mankind and anthropmorphic baseball-kind. I'd like to see Gilbert Gottfried introduce Alderson, and then Alderson take the podium and look at Gottfried like he's from Mars. I'd love Bobby Vee introduced right after him. Fred calling for a moment of silence for Bill Shannon would be nice.

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 09:07 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Announce an extension for Reyes? Really not expecting much ground breaking though.

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 09:08 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Actually, I hope he answers any allusions to the steroid era with an accusation that o'connor has asked him for a job.

Edgy DC Oct 29 2010 09:12 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

That would be dynamite.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2010 09:15 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Joke about Madoff losses, then winkingly "point and shoot" at a quietly fuming Jeffy. Also, I'd like to see him hit a guy. Just, y'know, to set a tone. Also also, I hope he wears his New York tie to the press conference. I keep hearing New York ties are important to this bunch.

Valadius Oct 29 2010 09:20 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"I'd like to present my deputies, John Ricco, Paul DePodesta, J.P. Ricciardi, and Omar Minaya." "I'd also like to present Ian O'Connor with this cardboard cutout of Derek Jeter's butt."

metirish Oct 29 2010 10:10 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

No more giving away outs

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 11:21 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Edgy DC wrote: if Jon Heyman asks a douchey question If?

Edgy DC Oct 29 2010 11:38 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I've got a lot of work to do today, but there are bullets of cool flying all over the place and I need to hide under the desk.

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 11:50 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Francesa said this will be about Alderson, and nothing else. No one else will speak (besides introducing him), no one else will do any interviews (i.e. Fred won't speak to him) Guess not Reyes announcement extension either.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:00 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Sounds like this is mostly about Francesa.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:01 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Ron Darling: "This is joyous day for Mets fans!"

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2010 12:03 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Moment of silence! Agee nailed it.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:03 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Moment of silence for Bill Shannon, reminiscent of honoring Bob Mandt before Omar/Jerry axing. One worries over who will leave us before manager is named.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:03 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Edgy DC wrote: Fred calling for a moment of silence for Bill Shannon would be nice. Close! It was Dave Howard who called for the moment of silence.

Edgy DC Oct 29 2010 12:04 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I love this team.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:05 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

W2K, yo.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2010 12:05 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Uncle Saul with a big smile.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:05 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"I know I have a reputation as a no-nonsense guy but I must tell you: I'm not wearing pants today." Wow! He's not wearing pants!

Valadius Oct 29 2010 12:05 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Look at little Afterthought Jeffy.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:06 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Oops! He thinks he's in Oakland! (Kind of like Casey's Knickerbockers comment.)

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 12:08 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Interview starts by cutting off Francessa, and a joke about the size of the media. I'm on board.

Kong76 Oct 29 2010 12:09 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"Sandy, where do you stand on bunting?" "Bunting is for losers! Bifl, if you will."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2010 12:11 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I just came.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:11 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Manager interviews will begin next week.

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 12:12 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

2:12 is the first Moneyball reference.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:13 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"A manager needs to reflect the general philosophy of the organization."

Valadius Oct 29 2010 12:13 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Tracksuit gets the first question after Burkhardt.

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 12:13 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I don't like how he keeps saying "he." What, we can't hire a female manager?

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:14 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"I can appreciate a fiery manager. I think a fiery manager is quite desirable."

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:14 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Managers should be analytical and intuitive.

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 12:15 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Franchise has "tremendous upside potential." Sounds like something Bill Simmons would make fun of Hubie Brown saying.

Valadius Oct 29 2010 12:18 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Is that guy from New York One named "Buck Michigan"?

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:19 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Damn, he makes not immediately booting Ollie and Luis sound almost reasonable.

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 12:19 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Alderson says he knows what OBP is.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:20 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I'm enjoying his gravitas.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2010 12:21 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 29 2010 12:22 PM

Good question, Waldstein. I'm all jizzy

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:22 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"Homegrown players are very important. Not only from a financial standpoint, but from a fan standpoint."

Valadius Oct 29 2010 12:22 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Payroll flexibility!

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:23 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Who's this "Ed" who's asking a question? Could it be the AOL Fanhouse guy?

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 12:25 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Refers to "Rick-o," not "Ree-co."

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 12:25 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Great. He's been working in Santo Domingo. That means he's only going to sign Latin players.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2010 12:27 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Who's this "Ed" who's asking a question? Could it be the AOL Fanhouse guy? Ed Randall, longtime host of WFAN's "Talking Baseball" program. I couldn't help but wish my Dad was here to see this press conference, he'd be a Sandy Man.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:28 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

The current question is from the Chinese press! Will there be Chinese players on the Mets in 2011?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2010 12:29 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Amazin he has an answer for her.

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 12:29 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Next time a kid asks me what he can do with a history major, I'm telling him he could run a major league team.

Edgy DC Oct 29 2010 12:29 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

seawolf17 wrote: Franchise has "tremendous upside potential." Sounds like something Bill Simmons would make fun of Hubie Brown saying. Hubie Brown is awesome. What triggered the Lunchbucket ejac?

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:29 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The current question is from the Chinese press! Will there be Chinese players on the Mets in 2011? Sandy fielding it cleanly. Omar would have asked, "What am I -- a fortune cookie?"

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 12:31 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

G-Fafif wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: The current question is from the Chinese press! Will there be Chinese players on the Mets in 2011? Sandy fielding it cleanly. Omar would have asked, "What am I -- a fortune cookie?" "Know what I'm sayin'?" Sandy, we'll fall in love with the ballpark as soon as you start winning. (And when you knock it down and rebuild Shea.)

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:31 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Queens-based media asking lousy questions.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2010 12:32 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

He's yet to say "knowwhati'msayin"

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:33 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Underpinnings of his answers seem to be 1) I read everything written about me; and 2) don't believe everything you read about me.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:33 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

He doesn't like to be "mindless." That's a good sign!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2010 12:33 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

seawolf17 wrote: Franchise has "tremendous upside potential." Sounds like something Bill Simmons would make fun of Hubie Brown saying. As long as he doesn't praise CitiField's "length," I think we're okay.

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 12:34 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I want Bobby V, in fake mustache/glasses, to stand up in the crowd and ask about specific future manager plans.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:34 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He doesn't like to be "mindless." That's a good sign! "What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is." --Dan Quayle

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:34 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Question about 2011... He's not looking beyond, and we should have every chance to be competitive. Looking for more from Jason Bay and... others.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:35 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I like that he used "we" to describe this past season. You own it, Sandy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2010 12:35 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

G-Fafif wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: The current question is from the Chinese press! Will there be Chinese players on the Mets in 2011? Sandy fielding it cleanly. Omar would have asked, "What am I -- a fortune cookie?" Classic

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:36 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Mets want to be aggressive in the free agent market every year, but as for this year... unlikely.

Edgy DC Oct 29 2010 12:36 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I want Bobby V, in fake mustache/glasses, to stand up in the crowd and ask about specific future manager plans. Or Jerry Seinfeld in disguise as Bobby in Disguise. That's press conference theater.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:37 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"We won't be signing any free agents this year...good night everybody!"

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:37 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Judging by the paper towels on the desk, I think Ron and Bobby O may have also ejaculated during the press conference.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2010 12:37 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"I by no means am looking beyond 2011... if we work at it, we should have every chance to be competitive." Y'know, playing games in September... that have meaning.

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 12:37 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"Unlikely" to be a major player in this year's FA market.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:38 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Kevin Burkhardt gets the first one-on-one with Sandy.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:38 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Judging by the paper towels on the desk, I think Ron and Bobby O may have also ejaculated during the press conference. Your offseason analysis has come?

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:39 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Telling Burkhardt "boxed in by payroll" (a little) for 2011.

metirish Oct 29 2010 12:40 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

G-Fafif wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: The current question is from the Chinese press! Will there be Chinese players on the Mets in 2011? Sandy fielding it cleanly. Omar would have asked, "What am I -- a fortune cookie?" I thought that was a greta line of questioning.... "we should never be middle of the pack in player development " ....like that

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 12:40 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

seawolf17 wrote: "Unlikely" to be a major player in this year's FA market. unlikely to be "aggressive" I took that to mean no Cliff Lee, but it does sound like not planning on increasing payroll much and he hinted at a budget. But they could still sign a mid-range SP I'd imagine.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2010 12:41 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

G-Fafif wrote: Telling Burkhardt "boxed in by payroll" (a little) for 2011. Hooray for f*cking candor.

Valadius Oct 29 2010 12:45 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I loved seeing Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz get three handshakes with Sandy while sniveling little Jeffy was left hanging on a third one.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:46 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Sandy just name-checked Buddy Harrelson with Burkhardt.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:46 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Sandy dropping lots of breadcrumbs about Wally Backman being the next manager.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:47 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

And now Sandy dropping breadcrumbs that it won't be Wally Backman. The man's inscrutable!

Edgy DC Oct 29 2010 12:49 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

God bless inscrutable management.

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 12:51 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"Dropping breadcrumbs"... like someone who OWNS A RESTAURANT?!? YES!

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 12:54 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

seawolf17 wrote: "Dropping breadcrumbs"... like someone who OWNS A RESTAURANT?!? YES! I hear ya, but the idea that this guy will be charged with hiring a manager actually imbues me with confidence it won't be a horrible choice even if it's not the restaurant guy. (We are talking about Darry Strawberry, right?)

Edgy DC Oct 29 2010 12:57 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I thought we were talking about Jack Fisher.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 12:58 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Ron predicts a fiery manager.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2010 12:59 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"'Inscrutable,' eh... so he's thinking about a Chinese?" --Flushing News reporter

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 01:12 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Also also, I hope he wears his New York tie to the press conference. I keep hearing New York ties are important to this bunch.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 01:14 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: "'Inscrutable,' eh... so he's thinking about a Chinese?" --Flushing News reporter Or as Omar would have said, "Just because Ollie exercised his right not to be sent down, I don't think that makes us screwable."

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 01:16 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I don't feel any better or worse about the team right now. I don't like the "not aggressive" in the market thing, unless that was spin to say "no Lee or Crawford" which is fine. but hinting that the budget exists and the number isn't much higher than what the payroll is now kinda hurts.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 01:18 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Jeff says Josh Byrnes was great "but he was born 20 years after Sandy." Byrnes has an ageism lawsuit.

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 01:19 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I wonder how much the Mets being sorta buddy-buddy with Selig helped in this hiring, and I wonder how they helps/clinches the All-Star game here in lucky '13?

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 01:22 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Ceetar wrote: I don't like the "not aggressive" in the market thing, unless that was spin to say "no Lee or Crawford" which is fine. but hinting that the budget exists and the number isn't much higher than what the payroll is now kinda hurts. It's no surprise that he's handcuffed a bit for 2011. I think they'll be freely (and hopefully wisely) spending in the 2011-12 offseason. Sandy implied that they'll have an extra $50 million* to work with. * Right now they have $110 million committed to multi-year contracts, after 2011 it will be down to $60 million.

Edgy DC Oct 29 2010 01:30 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Strong enough to confront uncomfortable truths out in the open. Savvy enough to promise low. These are mature traits we need ought embrace here in the Oakland Knickerbocker fanbase.

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 01:31 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ceetar wrote: I don't like the "not aggressive" in the market thing, unless that was spin to say "no Lee or Crawford" which is fine. but hinting that the budget exists and the number isn't much higher than what the payroll is now kinda hurts. It's no surprise that he's handcuffed a bit for 2011. I think they'll be freely (and hopefully wisely) spending in the 2011-12 offseason. Sandy implied that they'll have an extra $50 million* to work with. * Right now they have $110 million committed to multi-year contracts, after 2011 it will be down to $60 million. He implied they can be competitive this year, and i would think they all have to realize that if an extra 10 million can get you into the playoffs, that more than pays for itself.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2010 01:33 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 29 2010 01:34 PM

I'm kind of love with this guy. I mean, at this point last year my best hope for the Mets was that they wouldn't do anything stupid or embarrassing. I kinda like a guy who says, I'm here to do smart things and get everyone on the same page. Blowing a gigantic wad off the bat was how Omar did it.

Edgy DC Oct 29 2010 01:34 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Re: $10 million. That's a fool's bargain. A budget is a budget.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 01:35 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

It might have been nice to hear that the Mets had approved a one-year payroll spike for 2011 to give them a competitive boost, but I really didn't expect it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they ponied up during the summer if they're in the race, but I understand their current restraint.

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 01:40 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: It might have been nice to hear that the Mets had approved a one-year payroll spike for 2011 to give them a competitive boost, but I really didn't expect it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they ponied up during the summer if they're in the race, but I understand their current restraint. That's true, and it's easy to nitpick specific statements. I don't think there is anything they can sign in the offseason, outside of '69's Seaver, that will sell tickets before the team is winning and in first place a good portion into the season. On the other hand, what's the hit if no one is interested in April-May (until the weather warms up) except us die hards?

seawolf17 Oct 29 2010 01:43 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Ceetar wrote: I don't think there is anything they can sign in the offseason, outside of '69's Seaver, that will sell tickets before the team is winning and in first place a good portion into the season.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2010 01:49 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

This guy's got the benefit of my doubt and then some. The Met FO-Kremlinology thing is only going to get more intense, though, no?

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 02:01 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: This guy's got the benefit of my doubt and then some. The Met FO-Kremlinology thing is only going to get more intense, though, no? If we're gonna run with the Alderson as Savior thing, probably. Really though, until they start winning.

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 02:02 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: This guy's got the benefit of my doubt and then some. The Met FO-Kremlinology thing is only going to get more intense, though, no? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: This guy's got the benefit of my doubt and then some. The Met FO-Kremlinology thing is only going to get more intense, though, no? If we're gonna run with the Alderson as Savior thing, probably. Really though, until they start winning. Really can apply to everything though. if the Mets clinch a playoff spot in 2011, K-Rod's a story of redemption (providing he doesn't beat anyone else up) if they have a losing season, he's a clubhouse cancer who the Mets _have_ to trade in the offseason.

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2010 02:15 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Re: The Free Agent Market -- it's not looking like a great year in the market and is looking (early view anyway) like a good one in the draft. Between those 'facts' and the payroll situation (three large contracts coming off the books after 2011) it's probably not a great year to dive in on FAs anyway. The "Not aggressive" quote is probably the best way to both tone down the hype for a quick-fix solution while saying that it's not the best time.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 02:49 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Sandy on with Francesa. I have to say he sounds rather tired (then again, I feel the same). OTOH, he doesn't sound like he's spouting talking points. Consistent with previous answers, but not scripted. Of course Francesa will figure it all out for him and get back to him.

metirish Oct 29 2010 03:06 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

G-Fafif wrote: Sandy on with Francesa. I have to say he sounds rather tired (then again, I feel the same). OTOH, he doesn't sound like he's spouting talking points. Consistent with previous answers, but not scripted. Of course Francesa will figure it all out for him and get back to him. Oh , that's wFan?, I thought he was on the Vatican radio with the Pope. Entertainment value, being able to excite the fanbase will be factors in choosing a manager.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 03:07 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Talked about a manager who kicks dirt. Any manager who promises to kick dirt on Francesa would be OK by me.

metirish Oct 29 2010 03:09 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

G-Fafif wrote: Talked about a manager who kicks dirt. Any manager who promises to kick dirt on Francesa would be OK by me. Be a hell of a lot of dirt and kicking to cover the big bollox

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 03:12 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

SA says Mets have some cachet that has never gone away. MF snottily dismissed his assertion. SA laughed and moved on. SA should have kicked dirt.

metirish Oct 29 2010 03:17 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Francesa could not be more smug if he tried, you just know he'll be all over Alderson's making the Mets an iconic franchise statement.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 03:18 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Alderson sounds like a person. In that sense, it's like hearing Duquette after the shtick of Phillips. But Alderson's coming at it from a base of security.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 03:24 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"62 is the new 35," says Alderson in his signoff. I'm heartened by his maturity...but he sure did sound tired.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2010 03:26 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

G-Fafif wrote: "62 is the new 35," says Alderson in his signoff. I'm heartened by his maturity...but he sure did sound tired. Well... do keep in mind that he'd been doing these in ten-minute chunks for about two hours straight-- and mostly answering the same questions-- BEFORE reaching Francesa.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 03:38 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: G-Fafif wrote: "62 is the new 35," says Alderson in his signoff. I'm heartened by his maturity...but he sure did sound tired. Well... do keep in mind that he'd been doing these in ten-minute chunks for about two hours straight-- and mostly answering the same questions-- BEFORE reaching Francesa. No doubt. He's chunking it up with Kay on ESPN 1050 now.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 29 2010 03:42 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Ye Gods.

metirish Oct 29 2010 03:50 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

The one person possibly more smug than Francesa, Alderson's patience will be tested for sure. I forgot how funny it can be when Francesa gives his football picks to His flock.

apmorris Oct 29 2010 04:10 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Fatesca keeps on bringing up Torre, I swear if Joe Torre is the Mets manager next year - I'll run out in center field, dowse myself with green tea and fall asleep (I was going to say "gasoline and set myself on fire" but ... ) ps. I think Backman is a huge risk - Wally Backman will excite the fan base, really?

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 04:18 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

apmorris wrote: Fatesca keeps on bringing up Torre, I swear if Joe Torre is the Mets manager next year - I'll run out in center field, dowse myself with green tea and fall asleep (I was going to say "gasoline and set myself on fire" but ... ) ps. I think Backman is a huge risk - Wally Backman will excite the fan base, really? The Mets have started to show some small measure of "getting it" in regards to the fans, but if they think Backman or Torre are going to sell tickets... I guess it's possible as the season goes on, under the right circumstances, but home game 2 and 3? I'm not even sure Valentine sells Mets tickets in April.

metirish Oct 29 2010 04:23 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Backman excites the media more than the fans I think, they probably see him as a disaster waiting to happen. Rubin has some good stuff here http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/new-york/ ... ing-points

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 29 2010 04:24 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

You may not be buying but backman would be a huge selling point for the Mets. I don't think their issue is selling tickets in April. August is where they need the most help.

apmorris Oct 29 2010 04:45 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

metirish wrote: Backman excites the media more than the fans I think, they probably see him as a disaster waiting to happen. Indeed.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 05:00 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Davey Johnson never sold a single ticket. Davey Johnson's winning ballclubs sold a ton of them.

Ceetar Oct 29 2010 05:02 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: You may not be buying but backman would be a huge selling point for the Mets. I don't think their issue is selling tickets in April. August is where they need the most help. August/summer ticket sell based on the team's performance, but no one's showing up in cold April if they win the first two or something.

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2010 05:21 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

From Adam Rubin's summary on the Slotting system/draft: - Major League Baseball recommends signing bonuses based on a prospect's draft position. The Mets try to be good MLB citizens and adhere to that system, but that appears as if it will change under Alderson and they will spend over the recommended amount to exploit the system, as other big-market clubs do. Sometimes, attractive players fall because of fears about their contract demands, and the Mets may now be in position to take advantage of that. "Where he makes a decision that we should go after a player that may be different than the slot says, we're going to follow that," Fred Wilpon said. Said Jeff Wilpon: "I think we've gone over quite a bit. Maybe we didn't go for that reach player, and that certainly might change." The best thing about this isn't that it's going to change the minor league system overnight (it won't) but that it appears to signal a willingness to understand that adhering to the "recommendations" just for the sake of it is a stupid idea that should be broken if/when the right situation arises.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 29 2010 06:16 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I think Backman would be a very popular choice among the fans. At least, among those old enough to remember 1986.

Ashie62 Oct 29 2010 06:21 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

G-Fafif wrote: "62 is the new 35," says Alderson in his signoff. I'm heartened by his maturity...but he sure did sound tired. Greg, kinda like you after 3 hours of cat napping.

Ashie62 Oct 29 2010 06:28 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think Backman would be a very popular choice among the fans. At least, among those old enough to remember 1986. I would agree agree with that. Who really believes Managers put fannys in the seats?

Lefty Specialist Oct 29 2010 07:00 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Anybody else pleased that our GM can speak in complete, coherent sentences? Omar always sounded like he was juggling bottles of nitroglycerine when he would talk to the media.

G-Fafif Oct 29 2010 08:07 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Lefty Specialist wrote: Anybody else pleased that our GM can speak in complete, coherent sentences? Omar always sounded like he was juggling bottles of nitroglycerine when he would talk to the media. Low bar, but he exceeded it. Alderson manages to sound on message without sounding programmed to spew talking points.

Ashie62 Oct 30 2010 05:27 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

All in all, this will be a very interesting winter to see how Alderson deals with the existing and future existing payrolls. He will be handling David Wright negotiations at some point not too too far off. Is David a 20 million dollar a year player to the Mets? He is the brand.

seawolf17 Oct 30 2010 06:21 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Ashie62 wrote: He will be handling David Wright negotiations at some point not too too far off. Is David a 20 million dollar a year player to the Mets? He is the brand. Yes, definitely.

MFS62 Oct 30 2010 09:02 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

From Klapisch: http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_s ... _Mets.html He took some typical Klaptrap shots, but I'm glad to see Sandy will be bringing in Depodesta and also thinks highly of Backman. Other writers and talking heads have been saying that Wally isn't the kind of manager Sandy could work with. Later

Ashie62 Oct 30 2010 09:40 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Wally Backman High Risk/High Reward Do ya feel lucky? do ya?

MFS62 Oct 30 2010 12:17 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Ashie62 wrote: Jeffie! Do ya feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? I fixed that for you. Later

G-Fafif Oct 30 2010 02:12 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Ken Davidoff in Newsday creates an Alderson attribute from very thin air: Alderson gets it. Fully. He gets New York, as he worked here for many years as a senior executive for Major League Baseball. He gets the Mets; his 1988 Oakland Athletics were set to take on the Mets in that World Series before Mike Scioscia went deep off Dwight Gooden. How on earth does the fact that his team might might have played the Mets 22 years ago mean Alderson "gets the Mets"? Unless Davidoff has proof that Sandy thought to himself, "If I were running that organization they'd have beaten the Dodgers," and obsessed on it from there, this strikes me as one of the more absurd throwaway lines I've ever seen. Marty Noble would have used the 1988 near-collision of A's and Mets as a jumping off point and probably gotten a great quote from Dave Magadan while doing so.

Number 6 Oct 31 2010 12:49 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Klapisch wrote: It took guts for the Wilpons, Fred and Jeff, to hire a tough, self-confident man like Alderson, because it means they’ll both have a lower profile from now on. For all the bad writing by Klap, and the general bitching about Jeff (of which I've definitely been a part), there's some truth to this. And if there's some truth, some credit is due to Jeff Wilpon for presumably being a significant part of this decision.

Edgy DC Oct 31 2010 06:12 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

If by "profile," he means public visibility, I don't really think it's true that Jeff Wilpon clamors for a high profile. I know it's not true of Fred Wilpon.

Number 6 Oct 31 2010 09:50 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

If by "profile," he means public visibility, I don't really think it's true that Jeff Wilpon clamors for a high profile. I know it's not true of Fred Wilpon. You're right, that's certainly what the word means, though I'm not sure it's what Klap was trying to convey. I think the point can also be applied to the more standard criticisms of Jeff's involvement. If he was part of a decision to select Sandy Alderson, while clearly knowing the influential role Sandy would need assured in order for him to take the job, than he's made a decision strongly at odds with many common perceptions of him. If JW was as supremely meddlesome, narcissistic, and controlling as so many make him out to be, Alderson wouldn't be a guy he'd want to hire. I also think there's truth to this: "My role hasn't changed," Jeff Wilpon said. "I mean, your perception of my role is probably not what my role really is. Your perception of the role, and the fan-base perception, is not correct. So my role has not changed." Jeff Wilpon: Boogieman.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 02:19 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Matt Cerrone wrote: The Mets have announced a 5 pm conference for today with Alderson, according to the Daily News.

Ceetar Nov 02 2010 02:20 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Matt Cerrone wrote: The Mets have announced a 5 pm conference for today with Alderson, according to the Daily News. Does this guy sleep? Fired some scouts today, sounds like.

metirish Nov 02 2010 02:21 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Matt Cerrone wrote: The Mets have announced a 5 pm conference for today with Alderson, according to the Daily News. One assumes it's not about the concession stands , OMFG, the wait will kill me.

Ceetar Nov 02 2010 02:24 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

metirish wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Matt Cerrone wrote: The Mets have announced a 5 pm conference for today with Alderson, according to the Daily News. One assumes it's not about the concession stands , OMFG, the wait will kill me. They do really need another shake shack.

Gwreck Nov 02 2010 02:24 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Adam Rubin is reporting that Razor Shines has been fired.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 02:25 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I'm not seeing any confirmation of this press conference (yet, anyway) from anywhere else, including on the Daily News' site. Nor is there anything on SNY's site.

TransMonk Nov 02 2010 02:26 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I'm guessing the announcement of Ricciardi and DePodesta coming on as well as a vague (but less vague than last week) timeframe for a managerial hiring.

Edgy DC Nov 02 2010 02:26 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Ed Price tweets Reports have surfaced about some scrapes Sandy has had with the law. They spoke to him about these incidents and weren't entirely satisfied with his answers. They're embarassed they didn't vet him more thoroughly but they feel it's best to move on. They wish he'd been more up-front about his past but they want to set the best example possible for their fans.

metirish Nov 02 2010 02:27 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

And why hold a press conference to fire Razor Shines?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 02 2010 02:29 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

All of the Mets coaches became "free agents" yesterday as their contracts ran out. Shines (and Dave Jauss) were Manuel guys, I am sure they both won't be back, so there wouldn't be firing, just not re-hiring. Hale may hang around to be re-hired as 3B coach or even manager, and Hojo and Niemann are expected to get jobs somewhere in the org but prolly not what they were.

metirish Nov 02 2010 02:32 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: All of the Mets coaches became "free agents" yesterday as their contracts ran out. Shines (and Dave Jauss) were Manuel guys, I am sure they both won't be back, so there wouldn't be firing, just not re-hiring. Hale may hang around to be re-hired as 3B coach or even manager, and Hojo and Niemann are expected to get jobs somewhere in the org but prolly not what they were. Hojo and Niemann could work at the new concession stands that Alderson will announce

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 02:43 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

SNY has Daily News Live scheduled for 5, so if there's anything going on I'm sure there will be live coverage.

G-Fafif Nov 02 2010 02:54 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Adam Rubin reporting Mets have hired J.P. Ricciardi.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 03:01 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

That's what it is. "Breaking News" on SNY.

metirish Nov 02 2010 03:08 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

T Benjamin Grimm wrote: That's what it is. "Breaking News" on SNY. Tune in next week for "Breaking News" to see id Paul Depodesta joins the Mets. Yes, that is Fred milking Sandy's teats.

Frayed Knot Nov 02 2010 03:11 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Since his hiring last week, Alderson has been back on the west coast (teaches a class at Berkley among other things) so today is sort of his first gettin' down to business day w/los Mets.

metirish Nov 02 2010 03:13 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Random thought here, the Mets are hiring some very smart people

TransMonk Nov 02 2010 03:15 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I've said it before...I have no problem with a front office full of ex-GMs.

metirish Nov 02 2010 03:47 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

@AdamRubinESPNRicciardi calls it "a little bit of a homecoming" because he played two seasons of minor league ball with Mets Alderso to start interview process with internal guys Thursday through Friday

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 02 2010 07:06 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

So... we're not making a play for Dunn, I suppose.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 08:31 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

METS NAME J.P. RICCIARDI SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO GENERAL MANAGER SANDY ALDERSON FLUSHING, N.Y., November 2, 2010 - The New York Mets today announced that J.P. (John Paul) Ricciardi has been named Special Assistant to General Manager Sandy Alderson. From November 14, 2001 through 2009, he was the Senior Vice President, Baseball Operations and General Manager for the Toronto Blue Jays. Ricciardi spent last season as a baseball analyst for ESPN. "J.P. brings a wealth of knowledge and a breadth of experience to the organization," said Alderson. "I worked with him for over a decade in Oakland and I know first hand he's a superb talent evaluator. He'll be a tremendous resource in a variety of areas." In his new role, Ricciardi will assist Alderson in all aspects of the baseball department. The 51-year-old worked for the Oakland Athletics for 16 years (1986-2001), including 12 years (1986-1997) when Alderson was the team's General Manager. "I couldn't be more excited about being reunited with Sandy," said Ricciardi. "We enjoyed tremendous success together in Oakland and it's my goal to help duplicate that here with the Mets. As a former Met farm hand, it's a double homecoming for me." Ricciardi played two seasons in the Mets minor league system after signing as a non-drafted free agent. In 1980, he was a teammate of current Oakland GM Billy Beane in the New York-Penn League with Little Falls and in 1981 he played for Shelby (A) of the South Atlantic League.

Edgy DC Nov 02 2010 08:36 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Other guys they played with include Ronn Reynolds, Lloyd McClendon, Randy Milligan, John Gibbons, and Lenny Dykstra, and I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two of those end up on the interview list.

Centerfield Nov 02 2010 08:37 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

This is cool. Last week we hired the first smart person in years. A week later, we doubled that number.

metirish Nov 02 2010 08:39 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Just heard Ricciardi on SNY , I didn't realize until I heard him speak that he's from the Boston area, pretty thick accent. Alderson said it was a family decision so he thank Ricciardi's wife and " one of his sons who I hear is a die-hard Mets fan".

batmagadanleadoff Nov 02 2010 09:06 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Centerfield wrote: This is cool. Last week we hired the first smart person in years. A week later, we doubled that number. 'Bout time we got smart. Apparently, baseball uniforms weren't the only garments that went powder blue in the '70's.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 02 2010 09:14 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Really this whole thing is a continuation of the long-running Costanzonian Met strategy of doing the exact opposite of what was done previously as a path (shortcut?) to success. Get criticized for trading off Scott Kazmir? Rush all pitching prospects to the majors. Bullpen fails in 08? Stuff 09 roster with big-name relief pitchers at any cost. Saddled with high-priced, untradable capitalists? Make them pariahs with vague swipes at their patriotism, and swear off free-agent spending. Finish under .500 with illiterate general manager with strength in old-school scouting? Hire Harvard egghead with background in space-age analytics.

Frayed Knot Nov 02 2010 09:20 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

String of bland field managers? Compensate with colorful spitfire (Wally, Bobby)?????

HahnSolo Nov 03 2010 06:56 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

"Hi, my name is Wally. I'm unemployed and I live with my parents."

metirish Nov 03 2010 07:03 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Frayed Knot wrote: String of bland field managers? Compensate with colorful spitfire (Wally, Bobby)????? Which would be funny because Howe could have been seen as the opposite of Valentine .

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2010 07:57 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

metirish wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: String of bland field managers? Compensate with colorful spitfire (Wally, Bobby)????? Which would be funny because Howe could have been seen as the opposite of Valentine . Absolutely, that's part of the longstanding pattern.

HahnSolo Nov 03 2010 08:23 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Little power in '09? Jason Bay, come on down!

A Boy Named Seo Nov 03 2010 09:01 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Might be foolish optimism, but THIS decision, these two Harvard eggheads, I'm way OK with, even if it feels like 'opposite day'. Bring DePodesta, too. A team of smarter dudes should (hopefully, hopefully) keep the org away from as much guessing and knee-jerk moves to pacify rabid newspaper peeps & angry bloggy/WFAN fans. Hopefully. Hopefully.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2010 09:06 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I do like having smart guys making the decisions. I hope the manager also fits that category.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2010 09:18 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

It's not like a lot of ball teams and other organizations don't swerve away from the failures of previous administrations. Dallas Green was hired to get control of the clubhouse and was fired for being a strong-arming control freak. I guess the key is correcting but not overcorrecting.

metirish Nov 03 2010 09:35 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

I feel that there is now a long term view for the org, maybe there was before but I feel now it will get implemented.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2010 09:39 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Oh, I think Omar had a longterm plan. It just didn't work.

metirish Nov 03 2010 09:44 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Edgy DC Nov 03 2010 09:45 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Sure he did. And it's to his everlasting credit that he left the remnants of the plan in place to blossom for his successor and passed on two years worth of opportunities to try and desperately save struggling seasons by trading on that plan for a quick fix.

Ceetar Nov 03 2010 09:45 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Oh, I think Omar had a longterm plan. It just didn't work. Everyone has a long term plan. But things change, and Omar didn't adjust his plan fast enough or well enough. But this is why I'm not goingto get all giddy for 2012 or 2013. It's not a given that Alderson's plan will work either.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 03 2010 10:49 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Might be foolish optimism, but THIS decision, these two Harvard eggheads, I'm way OK with, even if it feels like 'opposite day'. Bring DePodesta, too. A team of smarter dudes should (hopefully, hopefully) keep the org away from as much guessing and knee-jerk moves to pacify rabid newspaper peeps & angry bloggy/WFAN fans. Hopefully. Hopefully. The smarts are a bit of a PR tightrope, though-- you've gotta relate to get along. DePodesta got crucified for some iffy results (the Loduca-Encarnacion/Penny-Choi trade being the big one, along with giving J. D. Drew the opt-out clause) despite a generally rock-solid process in LA; press guys like Plaschke and Simers painted a picture of him as an inexperienced nerd* in over his head, with talk-radio following suit, and McCourt apparently bought it after a few years/field-manager-related travails. Plus, both Alderson and Ricciardi have caught flak about being "haughty" or "condescending" with the press. (They should REALLY enjoy the constant Francesa-ing.) *Leaving aside the joke of a non-athlete like Plaschke giving verbal noogies to the ex-varsity football/baseball player DePo, this inexperienced nerd came to the Dodger job with 2 years of scouting experience and 6 years of front-office time/management experience under John Hart and Billy Beane.

metirish Nov 03 2010 11:06 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

heyman Alderson today tells Mets employees his managerial list is long, suggesting process could take a while.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 03 2010 11:25 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

metirish wrote: heyman Alderson today tells Mets employees his managerial list is long, suggesting process could take a while. He also said last Friday he'd have it done within 30 days. Mark Nov. 29 on your calendar.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2010 11:39 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

The list may be long now, but I suspect it will shrink rapidly to about five or six people at most.

Ceetar Nov 03 2010 11:50 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The list may be long now, but I suspect it will shrink rapidly to about five or six people at most. I suspect it'll shrink to about 1.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2010 11:51 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Eventually, yes. But I think that it will only take a week or less for the long list to get down to five or six.

Ceetar Nov 03 2010 11:53 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Eventually, yes. But I think that it will only take a week or less for the long list to get down to five or six. internal candidates this week, and by internal I assume "guys everyone else thinks I should interview" followed by his guys next week and a narrow list of 3-4 that he wants seconds of?

metirish Nov 03 2010 11:57 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The list may be long now, but I suspect it will shrink rapidly to about five or six people at most. Great lyric right there for a country song.

A Boy Named Seo Nov 03 2010 12:25 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Might be foolish optimism, but THIS decision, these two Harvard eggheads, I'm way OK with, even if it feels like 'opposite day'. Bring DePodesta, too. A team of smarter dudes should (hopefully, hopefully) keep the org away from as much guessing and knee-jerk moves to pacify rabid newspaper peeps & angry bloggy/WFAN fans. Hopefully. Hopefully. The smarts are a bit of a PR tightrope, though-- you've gotta relate to get along. DePodesta got crucified for some iffy results (the Loduca-Encarnacion/Penny-Choi trade being the big one, along with giving J. D. Drew the opt-out clause) despite a generally rock-solid process in LA; press guys like Plaschke and Simers painted a picture of him as an inexperienced nerd* in over his head, with talk-radio following suit, and McCourt apparently bought it after a few years/field-manager-related travails. Plus, both Alderson and Ricciardi have caught flak about being "haughty" or "condescending" with the press. (They should REALLY enjoy the constant Francesa-ing.) *Leaving aside the joke of a non-athlete like Plaschke giving verbal noogies to the ex-varsity football/baseball player DePo, this inexperienced nerd came to the Dodger job with 2 years of scouting experience and 6 years of front-office time/management experience under John Hart and Billy Beane. Ah, eff Plaschke and Simers both. Irrelevant shit-stirrers. I remember looking into DePodesta's moves w/ a Dodger fan friend a few years ago and we both thought he did... pretty OK. Here's something with a bit of his spotted history: http://dodgerthoughts.baseballtoaster.c ... 01285.html Truth be told, I'm not arguing he's great or anything, cause I really don't know if he is. I just like that they're trying to assemble a collection of intelligent people who have worked together and had success together & hope that translates here, whethere DePo's a part of it or not. And for all the smart, Harvard guy rah-rah shit, I hope these guys don't insulate themselves from the other opinions either, and I don't think (hope, again) they won't.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2010 01:08 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Sandy

metirish wrote: heyman Alderson today tells Mets employees his managerial list is long, suggesting process could take a while. Can't wait to find out whether I'm on it.