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Jamie Moyer

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2010 05:29 PM

His recent release by the Phils probably got lost to most due to the playoff & WS hubbub. Actually his contract was up but they told him that they're not interested in renewal. So you figure - at age 48 - it's probably the end of his career, one which is most remarkable not just for his 267 wins despite throwing barely over the speed limit, but for the fact that that just 34 of those wins came in his 20's, 130 more in his 30's, and a stunning 103 after turning 40. Moyer, who has a ton of outside interests and charities not to mention like 6 or 7 kids (one of which was just drafted this past year) would have no problem going home (Seattle I think) and relaxing. Except that he's not. He's currently in the Dominican Republic of all places pitching in winter ball to keep his game up in hopes of attracting interest and a contract prior to next Spring. Not that I'm suggesting Sandy look into him or anything, but I think it would be kind of cool if he hooked on with someone.

Edgy DC Nov 01 2010 05:36 PM Re: Jamie Moyer

Prediction one: Atlanta. Prediction two: Washington.

metirish Nov 01 2010 05:42 PM Re: Jamie Moyer

If he signed with the Mets he coukd be opening day starter. Prediction Marlins

seawolf17 Nov 01 2010 07:00 PM Re: Jamie Moyer

Dude beat Steve Carlton, who's older than my dad, in his major league debut. I'd love to see Moyer keep pitching.

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2010 07:25 PM Re: Jamie Moyer

Or, as the guy who wrote the piece on winter leagues that inspired this thread put it: when Moyer (playing in the Dom Winter Lg) was the same age as Washington's Bryce Harper (currently playing in the Az Fall Lg) Jimmy Carter was still President.

Edgy DC Nov 01 2010 07:49 PM Re: Jamie Moyer

I'm certain that Moyer is the last active player to face the 1986 Mets (reason enough to root for him). Who was the next to last?

metsmarathon Nov 01 2010 08:08 PM Re: Jamie Moyer

clemens

Edgy DC Nov 01 2010 08:12 PM Re: Jamie Moyer

Not Roger.

G-Fafif Nov 01 2010 08:54 PM Re: Jamie Moyer

Keep pitching Jamie. You alone keep me young.

Gwreck Nov 01 2010 11:50 PM Re: Jamie Moyer

Greg Maddux

Edgy DC Nov 02 2010 06:15 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

His fellow 1986 Cub Greg Maddux is correct. Both were rookieing that year. Against the juggernaut Mets, Maddux went 0-1, 9.00, in four innings while teammate Jamie went 1-0, 3.74 in 21 2/3 innings.

G-Fafif Nov 02 2010 06:35 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Maddux pitched the day game after the clincher on Pete Flynn's chewing gum and bailing wire lawn.

Edgy DC Nov 02 2010 07:17 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Nice call. I was thinking of putting together a team of 1986 Met opponents who lasted into the aughts. sp: Jamie Moyer (Cubs), lasted until 2010 (and beyond?) sp: Greg Maddux (Cubs), lasted until 2008 sp: Rawjah Clemens (Red Sox), lasted until 2007 sp: Orel Hershiser (Dodgers), lasted until 2000 rp: John Franco (Reds), lasted until 2005 c: 1b: Andres Gallaraga (Expos), lasted until 2004 2b: 3b: ss: lf: Barry Bonds (Giants), lasted until 2007 cf: rf: Tony Gwynn (Padres), lasted until 2001

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 07:22 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

John Smoltz, too. I can probably generate a full list through SQL, but will wait until you give a green light, lest I spoil any fun. EDIT: Oops, scratch Smoltz. He doesn't go back as far as I thought. He first played against the Mets in 1988.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 07:37 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

377 players opposed the Mets in 1986 (including in the postseason) and 18 of them were still active in the major leagues in 2000 or later. Edgy listed eight of them above. There are ten others remaining.

Edgy DC Nov 02 2010 07:41 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Will Clark Eric Davis (we have a centerfielder!)

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 07:43 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Yup. Eight more. Of the eight, three were Mets at some point in their careers.

metsmarathon Nov 02 2010 07:47 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

bobby bonilla

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 07:50 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

metsmarathon wrote: bobby bonilla Yup.

Edgy DC Nov 02 2010 07:50 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Bonilla is our thirdbaseman.

Edgy DC Nov 02 2010 07:55 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Another Cub: Rafael Palmiero.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 07:57 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

After Rafael Palmeiro, six more remain. Three of them are pitchers.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 02 2010 08:02 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Mike Morgan

MFS62 Nov 02 2010 08:02 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Benito Santiago. Later

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 08:03 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Mike Morgan had the longevity, but he was with the Orioles in 1986, so was not a Mets opponent that year.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 08:05 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Benito Santiago is a great guess, but wrong. He was a San Diego Padre in 1986, but didn't play against the Mets that year.

HahnSolo Nov 02 2010 09:09 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Rock Raines and Barry larkin

Edgy DC Nov 02 2010 09:11 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Oooh, we have a shortstop. And Raines came up as a secondbaseman, so he may get us out of that pinch.

HahnSolo Nov 02 2010 09:13 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Both were guesses, I'm almost entirely certain on Raines, not as much so on Larkin.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 09:21 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Raines is correct, but not Larkin. He, like Benito Santiago, did play in the National League in 1986, but without appearing against the Mets. But there is a shortstop for this team.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 09:22 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Five guys remain. Three of them were pitchers, two of them were Mets. Here's who we have so far: Barry Bonds Bobby Bonilla Will Clark Roger Clemens Eric Davis John Franco Andres Galarraga Tony Gwynn Orel Hershiser Greg Maddux Jamie Moyer Rafael Palmeiro Tim Raines

HahnSolo Nov 02 2010 09:23 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

The other future Met and SS is Shawon Dunston

Willets Point Nov 02 2010 09:30 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Paul O'Neill battled in 1986 for the Cincinnati Reds.

Edgy DC Nov 02 2010 09:31 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

HahnSolo wrote: The other future Met and SS is Shawon Dunston And another Cub. What a future that team had.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 09:33 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Willets Point wrote: Paul O'Neill battled in 1986 for the Cincinnati Reds. Not against the Mets, though. Dunston, however, is correct. Four remain. Three pitchers, one outfielder. One of the remaining players was a Met. Barry Bonds Bobby Bonilla Will Clark Roger Clemens Eric Davis Shawon Dunston John Franco Andres Galarraga Tony Gwynn Orel Hershiser Greg Maddux Jamie Moyer Rafael Palmeiro Tim Raines

Willets Point Nov 02 2010 09:44 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Is Dave Martinez the outfielder?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 09:50 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Yes! Very good! Barry Bonds Bobby Bonilla Will Clark Roger Clemens Eric Davis Shawon Dunston John Franco Andres Galarraga Tony Gwynn Orel Hershiser Greg Maddux Dave Martinez Jamie Moyer Rafael Palmeiro Tim Raines Three pitchers remain. One of them was a Met.

Willets Point Nov 02 2010 09:54 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Terry Mullholland, who seemed to pitch for every team but the Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 09:55 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Yes. The remaining two pitchers both have the same given name. They were also both Phillies, Mariners, and Astros.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 02 2010 10:04 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Charlie Hudson? Mike Maddux?

Number 6 Nov 02 2010 10:07 AM Re: Jamie Moyer Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 02 2010 10:14 AM

Jose Canseco. OE: Whoops, looks like position players were done. Plus, I missed that the player had to actually oppose the Mets in 1986. Blah.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 10:07 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Mike Maddux is our ex-Met. One player remains. Barry Bonds Bobby Bonilla Will Clark Roger Clemens Eric Davis Shawon Dunston John Franco Andres Galarraga Tony Gwynn Orel Hershiser Greg Maddux Mike Maddux Terry Mulholland Jamie Moyer Dave Martinez Rafael Palmeiro Tim Raines

Edgy DC Nov 02 2010 10:07 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Paul Assenmacher.

Willets Point Nov 02 2010 10:08 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

The last guy has to be a pitcher named Mike.

Number 6 Nov 02 2010 10:18 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Un-dead Michael Jackson.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 02 2010 10:18 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Mike Harkey?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 02 2010 10:19 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Un-dead Michael Jackson. DING! And we're done: Barry Bonds Bobby Bonilla Will Clark Roger Clemens Eric Davis Shawon Dunston John Franco Andres Galarraga Tony Gwynn Orel Hershiser Michael Jackson Greg Maddux Mike Maddux Terry Mulholland Jamie Moyer Dave Martinez Rafael Palmeiro Tim Raines

Willets Point Nov 02 2010 10:27 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Number 6 wrote: Un-dead Michael Jackson. Not bad. Kind of an off the wall choice but no one else can beat it. It makes for a thriller of a conclusion to this quiz.

Edgy DC Nov 02 2010 10:30 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Boy, did he fly under the radar for a long time. I can't tell you one useful fact about Mike Jackson other than he once pitched for the Phils and usually (though I'm not sure exclusively) in relief. Maybe he was a Red too. Probably. Can't tell you what arm he threw with, what number he wore. I think he's white but maybe not. Give me ten years and no encyclopediae, I don't come up with his name.

Willets Point Nov 02 2010 10:35 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Here is a picture of him with the Phillies:

Number 6 Nov 02 2010 10:36 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Edgy DC wrote: Boy, did he fly under the radar for a long time. I can't tell you one useful fact about Mike Jackson other than he once pitched for the Phils and usually (though I'm not sure exclusively) in relief. Maybe he was a Red too. Probably. Can't tell you what arm he threw with, what number he wore. I think he's white but maybe not. Give me ten years and no encyclopediae, I don't come up with his name. The only reason I did is because I had the name Michael to go with, and was making connections with Michael ________ in my head. Jackson popped in because of the King of Pop, and then I thought, "hey wait, the pitcher!" Never would have thought of him otherwise.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 02 2010 10:41 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Edgy DC wrote: Boy, did he fly under the radar for a long time. I can't tell you one useful fact about Mike Jackson other than he once pitched for the Phils and usually (though I'm not sure exclusively) in relief. Maybe he was a Red too. Probably. Can't tell you what arm he threw with, what number he wore. I think he's white but maybe not. Give me ten years and no encyclopediae, I don't come up with his name. I'd totally forgotten about him, but now I do remember him. Longtime Phillie, but not exclusively. I think he was also a Mariner for a good period. Black. Don't recall L or R... Did he wear No. 13 or is that my imagination?

Number 6 Nov 02 2010 10:54 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

I think of him as an Astro which, apparently, he only was for 1 season.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 02 2010 12:09 PM Re: Jamie Moyer

Yes on the Mariners, and a righty. I remember him closing a little, or at least enough to grab double-digit saves once or twice-- he served as the de facto closer on a few imaginary baseball-card teams I redrafted in one of my imaginary leagues one summer (with the '88 Topps set?).

MFS62 Nov 05 2010 08:29 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Un-dead Michael Jackson. DING! And we're done: Barry Bonds Bobby Bonilla Will Clark Roger Clemens Eric Davis Shawon Dunston John Franco Andres Galarraga Tony Gwynn Orel Hershiser Michael Jackson Greg Maddux Mike Maddux Terry Mulholland Jamie Moyer Dave Martinez Rafael Palmeiro Tim Raines Wasn't there supposed to be a catcher? None of those guys jump out at me as having worn the tools of ignorance. Later

Benjamin Grimm Nov 05 2010 09:26 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Nobody ever promised that there would be a catcher.

seawolf17 Nov 05 2010 09:28 AM Re: Jamie Moyer

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Nobody ever promised that there would be a catcher. You gotta have a catcher or you're gonna have a lot of passed balls.