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The Tom Seaver Award

Edgy DC
Nov 01 2010 06:28 PM

Lost in the alleged despondency, it's easy to overlook the 2010 Mets general ability to find starters to stay in the game into the late innings --- before a grand slam takes a bat and shatters all that makes life good. This ephemeral nightly competitiveness can only speak well of the Mets starting staff. And well they pitched --- typically --- at least after orignal rotation regulars John Maine and Oliver Perez were pushed aside.

The standard bearer for excellence by a starting pitcher can be one and only --- the pro's pro who made excellence in starting pitching so taken for granted that M. Donald Grant couldn't stand it, and had to show New York just what a treasure they had... by taking it away.

So keep alive the spirit of our very own three-time Cy Young Award Winner (and still the most successful vote garnerer in the history of Major League Baseball's Hall of Fame) as you vote for the George Thomas Seaver Outstanding Met Starting Pitcher of the Year Award for 2010.

Numbers below represent the players' performances only as starting pitchers. We ask for five votes, first-through-fifth, and will score your votes as five points for first, four for second, etc.

Player W L ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO WPCT TB BK WP IBB SB CS PK GO AO GO/AO WHIP SLG OBA OPS
R.A. Dickey 11 9 2.86 26 26 2 1 173.1 165 62 55 13 4 41 103 .550 237 0 11 3 9 3 1 255 123 2.20 1.19 .362 .299 .661
Dillon Gee 2 2 2.18 5 5 0 0 33 25 10 8 2 0 15 17 .500 39 0 0 2 0 0 0 42 32 1.41 1.21 .331 .301 .632
John Maine 1 3 6.13 9 9 0 0 39.2 47 29 27 8 2 25 39 .250 80 0 3 1 5 0 0 20 49 0.43 1.82 .506 .398 .904
Jenrry Mejia 0 2 7.94 3 3 0 0 11.1 17 11 10 1 0 5 5 .000 24 0 4 1 1 1 0 16 13 1.31 1.94 .480 .393 .873
Pat Misch 0 4 4.28 6 6 0 0 33.2 39 20 16 4 1 4 21 .000 56 0 0 1 1 0 0 44 30 1.57 1.28 .409 .306 .715
Jonathon Niese 9 10 4.20 30 30 2 1 173.2 192 97 81 20 9 62 148 .474 300 0 5 3 0 4 1 210 119 1.90 1.46 .437 .346 .783
Fernando Nieve 0 1 22.50 1 1 0 0 2 3 5 5 2 0 3 5 .000 10 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.00 3.00 1.111 .500 1.611
Mike Pelfrey 15 9 3.68 33 33 0 0 203 212 88 83 12 6 67 113 .625 307 1 1 5 12 5 2 281 159 1.93 1.37 .399 .336 .735
Oliver Perez 0 3 5.94 7 7 0 0 33.1 36 24 22 5 1 28 27 .000 59 0 3 1 0 0 0 32 35 0.97 1.92 .447 .401 .848
Johan Santana 11 9 2.98 29 29 4 2 199 179 67 66 16 2 55 144 .550 265 2 2 2 5 0 0 194 214 0.99 1.18 .356 .292 .648
Hisanori Takahashi 4 4 5.01 12 12 0 0 64.2 73 36 36 11 0 21 54 .500 120 1 0 0 2 2 0 60 70 0.91 1.45 .478 .343 .821
Raul Valdes 0 0 1.69 1 1 0 0 5.1 3 1 1 1 1 4 5 .000 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 7 0.43 1.31 .444 .348 .792

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 01 2010 06:47 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

5. Santana
4. Dickey
3. Pelfrey
2. Niese
1. Takahashi

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 01 2010 06:56 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Santana
Dickey
Pelfrey
Niese
Gee

seawolf17
Nov 01 2010 07:02 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Dickey
Santana
Pelfrey
Niese
Takahashi

Willets Point
Nov 01 2010 07:10 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

5. Santana
4. Dickey
3. Pelfrey
2. Niese
1. Gee

Ashie62
Nov 01 2010 07:53 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 01 2010 10:09 PM

5. Dickey
4. Santana
3. Niese
2. Pelfrey
1. Takahashi

Edgy DC
Nov 01 2010 08:02 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

1. Johan Santana
2. R.A. Dickey
3. Mike Pelfrey
4. Jonathon Niese
5. Dillon Gee
* * *
6. Hisanori Takahashi
7. Pat Misch
8. Raul Valdes
9. Oliver Perez
10. John Maine
11. Fernando Nieve
12. Jenrry Mejia

metsmarathon
Nov 01 2010 08:07 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

santana
dickey
pelfrey
niese
gee

Edgy DC
Nov 01 2010 08:09 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Gee's feeling the satisfacton in knowing his September song was heard.

Vince Coleman Firecracker
Nov 01 2010 09:02 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Santana
Dickey
Pelfrey
Niese
Takahashi

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2010 09:19 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 01 2010 09:20 PM

Santana vs Dickey -- Very close seasons. One wasn�t there at the beginning, the other not there at the end. But in between had identical records (11-9) and both deserved better support. Similar ERAs (Dickey better by 0.14), and essentially identical WHiPs. Dickey actually walked fewer but didn�t K nearly as many.
I'm putting Johan up top on the basis of 3 extra starts and 25 more IP.

Pelfrey -- Led staff in wins, IPs, and starts. Was lights out for a while but also had more bad games than the above two which led to significantly higher ERA & WHiP numbers.

Niese -- 2nd on the team in games started and might have been up there fighting it out with the leaders if not for his late season fade.

Takahashi had a better season overall than Gee but not just as a starter so Gee gets the nod despite only 5 starts for the year.

1st - Santana
2nd - Dickey
3rd - Pelfrey
4th - Niese
5th - Gee

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2010 09:19 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Ashie62 wrote:
5. Dickey
4. Santana
3. Niese
4. Pelfrey
5. Takahashi

Interesting numbering system.

Fman99
Nov 01 2010 09:20 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Santana
Dickey
Pelfrey
Niese
Takahashi

Ashie62
Nov 01 2010 10:10 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Frayed Knot wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
5. Dickey
4. Santana
3. Niese
4. Pelfrey
5. Takahashi

Interesting numbering system.

Oops, fixed.

G-Fafif
Nov 01 2010 11:32 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

1. Dickey
2. Santana
3. Pelfrey
4. Niese
5. Takahashi

bmfc1
Nov 02 2010 05:18 AM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

1. Santana
2. Dickey
3. Pelfrey
4. Niese
5. Gee

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 02 2010 07:05 AM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

1) Santana
1A) Dickey
3) Pelfrey
4) Niese
5) Takahashi

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 02 2010 12:05 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
1) Santana
1A) Dickey
3) Pelfrey
4) Niese
5) Takahashi

I also wanted to vote "tie" for Santana and Dickey but didn't think this was allowed.

1. Santana
1. Dickey
3. Pelfrey
4. Niese
5. Takahashi

So what'll happen if this award winner is not the same as the Schaefer Met Pitcher of the Year?

Vic Sage
Nov 02 2010 12:22 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Benjamin Grimm wrote:

Santana
Dickey
Pelfrey
Niese
Gee

ditto

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 02 2010 12:23 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
So what'll happen if this award winner is not the same as the Schaefer Met Pitcher of the Year?

Rioting in the streets, I assume.

Vic Sage
Nov 02 2010 12:29 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Ashie62 wrote:

5. Dickey
4. Santana
3. Niese
2. Pelfrey
1. Takahashi

Ashie: Dickey and Santana are a "pick em", and Takahashi over Gee, while i disagree, could at least be argued in terms of Tak's overall contribution and making twice as many GS as Gee (despite pitching less well in those starts), but what's your rationale for Niese over Pelfrey? Pelf outdid him in every category.

metsmarathon
Nov 02 2010 01:03 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
So what'll happen if this award winner is not the same as the Schaefer Met Pitcher of the Year?

Rioting in the streets, I assume.

a general understanding that the two measure similar, but different things?

rioting would be cool, too.

TheOldMole
Nov 02 2010 05:09 PM
Re: The Tom Seaver Award

Dickey
Pelfrey
Santana
Niese
Takahashi