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Stranded in Red!


I Can't Drive 55 0 votes

There's Only One Way to Rock 2 votes

Red 1 votes

Winner Takes It All 0 votes

I'll Fall in Love Again 1 votes

VOA 0 votes

Three-Lock Box 1 votes

Marching to Mars 1 votes

Crusin & Boozin' 0 votes

Heavy Metal 2 votes

Fast Times at Ridgemont High 1 votes

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 09 2010 08:12 AM

You douchemunchers who turned your noses up at Wings last week are getting what's coming to ya: The Red Rocker himself, Sammy Hagar!

Please take a moment or two to consider the following "contributions" Sammy has made to our culture or go off the grid and select one of your own (no Montrose or Van Halen, however; only solo work is eligible for this poll). The song you choose will be added to the Mix Tape you will be required to have with you while stranded on a desert island for the rest of your life. All who don't vote instead get doubly tortured with a copy of the "VOA" video below.

Nobody said being stranded on a desert island was going to be fun!

I Can't Drive 55
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esdifY67SxE

There's Only One Way to Rock
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYbAfj0p3cE2dHAM

Red
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vavZ25wM6W0

Winner Takes It All
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PuUflTcJzA

I'll Fall In Love Again
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scyrObxBJJI

VOA
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c51qJ3Ad_4

Three-Lock Box
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4VPWUtDtz4

Marching to Mars
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZQ5DsaWq8Y

Cruisin & Boozin
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU0_MYXqRR8

Heavy Metal
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2_gOpU0eWU

Fast Times at Ridgemont High
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlN1oCctGok

Edgy DC
Nov 09 2010 08:20 AM
Re: Stranded in Red!

Can Eddie Money be far behind?

Vic Sage
Nov 09 2010 08:21 AM
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makes me nostalgic for the WINGS poll...

TransMonk
Nov 09 2010 08:23 AM
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1 2 3 Lockbox!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 09 2010 08:27 AM
Re: Stranded in Red!

Edgy DC wrote:
Can Eddie Money be far behind?


Haven't we already done Eddie Money?

I'm trying hard to justify Sammy's very existence.

You know, "Red" kinda rocks.

"I'll Fall in Love Again" is a pretty brave display of wussiness.

"Three-Lock Box" has a kinda cool beginning.

TransMonk
Nov 09 2010 08:32 AM
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I believe Hagar's biggest pre-Halen hit was the one he gave to Rick Springfield.

metirish
Nov 09 2010 08:49 AM
Re: Stranded in Red!

I'd like to write in for "Give to Live", that joint got my 15 year old self through a break up :)....the version on Live: Right Here, Right Now is great......

Love , love love the video for "I Can't Drive 55", the clothes , the car, the terrible acting....all classic 80's

HahnSolo
Nov 09 2010 09:46 AM
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The only Hagar solo song I recall other than '55 is Your Love is Driving Me Crazy...cracked the top 40 back in 1981/2 ish.

So I will go off the board and cast a vote for that.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxnyx6PdjPQ&feature=related

seawolf17
Nov 09 2010 09:48 AM
Re: Stranded in Red!

metirish wrote:
I'd like to write in for "Give to Live"

Same here. Or "Eagles Fly." Or hell, "I Love This Bar." Or even "Mas Tequila." Love Sammy Hagar.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 09 2010 10:09 AM
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I like the way he ended the Cold War by parachuting through the roof of the White House and telling Reagan to bomb Moscow.

Ashie62
Nov 09 2010 12:08 PM
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Fast Times at Ridgemont High with or without Phoebe Cates.

Willets Point
Nov 09 2010 02:07 PM
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I have nothing to say about Sammy, so here's a transcript of Lyndon Johnson ordering Haggar Pants.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 09 2010 02:19 PM
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Ironically, Sammy always orders his slacks a little tight where the nuts come down.

Willets Point
Nov 09 2010 02:28 PM
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...right up the bunghole.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 09 2010 06:42 PM
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I'd like to write in for "Give to Live"

Same here. Or "Eagles Fly." Or hell, "I Love This Bar." Or even "Mas Tequila." Love Sammy Hagar.


Well the rules say ya gotta choose one song.

I would be interested in hearing why you love Sammy Hagar.

I'll say this: He's trying to entertain me. And I kinda admire that he's aged into a kind of Jimmy Buffet of the devil-horns set and just made $80 million from selling his interest in a tequila brand.

But seriously: What's his deal?

metirish
Nov 09 2010 06:49 PM
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I chose Marching To Mars

I always liked Sammy too, growing up he was the kind of guy I imagined I could hang with , he gave me the impression too that he kinda knew he was a lucky sun of a you know what to be doing what he was doing, the bar in Cabo , the lifestyle...he wasn't a dick like the rest of the dicks in VH....saw them at Jones Beach in probably 95/96....they were awesome in concert....

When I was immigrating I wanted to go to Los Angeles but didn't know anyone there...yep, I saw myself in the Whiskey hanging with Sammy.....

metsguyinmichigan
Nov 09 2010 07:09 PM
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I'm a child of the '80s and like "I'll Fall in Love Again."

Kong76
Nov 09 2010 07:46 PM
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Voted Heavy Metal ... hat-ed that Drive 55 song.

Never liked him, particularly hat-ed the Van Hagar years.

Edgy DC
Nov 09 2010 08:16 PM
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I respected how, given every chance to ruin Van Halen, he only ushered them through mediocrity, which they probably would have descended to anyway.

When the divorce between VH & DLR was announced, I lightly lamented that it was too bad, because a band like that needed the complete clown that was David Lee to front them. My friend Martin stopped me there and said, "Wait a minute --- are you telling me there's a place in this world where the guy who did 'I Can't Drive '55' isn't a big enough clown?"

G-Fafif
Nov 09 2010 09:46 PM
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"It's Only Love" is my choice.

Oh, I thought this was about Simply Red.

Since it's not, "There's Only One Way to Rock," even though I believe there are several.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 10 2010 07:41 AM
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Red! I want red, there's no substitute for red!
Red! Paint it red, green ain't mean compared to red!

seawolf17
Nov 10 2010 07:54 AM
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I'd like to write in for "Give to Live"

Same here. Or "Eagles Fly." Or hell, "I Love This Bar." Or even "Mas Tequila." Love Sammy Hagar.


Well the rules say ya gotta choose one song.

I would be interested in hearing why you love Sammy Hagar.

I'll say this: He's trying to entertain me. And I kinda admire that he's aged into a kind of Jimmy Buffet of the devil-horns set and just made $80 million from selling his interest in a tequila brand.

I think that's exactly it. I'd trade careers with Sammy Hagar in a second, and so would any one of you. The guy makes millions of dollars living his ideal lifestyle; playing music, hanging out. The songs are good; sure, they're not Lennon/McCartney, but he's not trying to be. "Mas Tequila" is as blatant a ripoff of "Rock N Roll Part II" as there's ever been, but it's a fun song. "I Love This Bar" was written to be played by every cover band in every bar in North America. No shame in that at all.

And folks are loyal to Sammy. Michael Anthony stuck with him instead of de broers Van Halen. Chad Smith and Joe Satriani formed a one-off band with him. He's joined Rob Zombie and Alice Cooper on stage. There's nothing not likable about Sammy Hagar.

TransMonk
Nov 10 2010 08:11 AM
Re: Stranded in Red!

seawolf17 wrote:
There's nothing not likable about Sammy Hagar.

He ruined Van Halen, IMO...I take that back, he made Van Halen a worse band than they were with DLR.

I really wish they would have changed their name at the DLR split.

Edgy DC
Nov 10 2010 08:24 AM
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Well, when the band is named after the guys who stayed, I doubt they felt any inclination to change it. They were probably calling the band VH before David Lee ever joined.

But really, while I agree they got worse, isn't it not necessarily true that he made them worse? They never would have survived and been productive had they continued with DLR. Most fans who dug on them from the beginning were aleady deeply concerned with the turn the band had taken with 1984 already.

With Roth having (briefly) achieved the international celebrity status he was aiming for, playing on some Calfifornia cartoon version of Jim Morrison excess, and Eddie stumbling in and out of the revolving door of the Betty Ford Clinic, it's probalby unlikely that they could have sustained their game. I look it as Hagar was a stabilizing factor amidst the band's decline that probably slowed it.

So perhaps the choice is really to burn out with Roth or fade away with Sammy.

Personally, I'm a Gary Cherone man.

TransMonk
Nov 10 2010 08:33 AM
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Yeah, you're right...VH was destined to falter with or without DLR.

MFS62
Nov 10 2010 08:35 AM
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About 25 years ago, I was driving my daughter to a friend's house. She asked if she could turn the station on the radio.
I said she could, but I wouldn't listen to Sammy Hagar.
I still feel the same way.

LAter

seawolf17
Nov 10 2010 08:46 AM
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Ah, come on. I like Gary Cherone, but outside of "Without You" and "Fire In The Hole," that album is pretty bad. "How Many Say I" is the worst song in the history of rock.

Sammy made VH different. I don't know if it's better or worse, just different; and you have to factor in the times as well. The Sammy Years were also the polished hair metal years; of course they're going to be playing in that mold to a certain extent. "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" is Van Halen's best disc overall.

TransMonk
Nov 10 2010 08:52 AM
Re: Stranded in Red!

seawolf17 wrote:
"For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" is Van Halen's best disc overall.

With or without Hagar?

I'll take any DLR album (even 1984) over the best Van Hagar album.

Edgy DC
Nov 10 2010 08:52 AM
Re: Stranded in Red!

Edgy DC wrote:
Personally, I'm a Gary Cherone man.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 10 2010 09:44 AM
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I read somewhere that the decision to name the band "Van Halen" was actually Roth's idea.

I also agree they looked destined for a fall as Dave's profile rose. It was pretty clear the creative forces were splitting as the dark 'Fair Warning' morphed back into goodtime partyish pop of '1984,' with the cover-heavy, who-gives-a-shit 'Diver Down' between them.

I never gave Van Hagar any real shot. I liked Dave's theatrics out front, it was a good way to sell the guitar pyrotechnics. Also, Sammy'd made somewhat of an ass of himself with so much of his solo work here. I mean, that it was the perfect accompaniment to "Over the Top" says something.

seawolf17
Nov 10 2010 09:51 AM
Re: Stranded in Red!

TransMonk wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
"For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" is Van Halen's best disc overall.

With or without Hagar?

I'll take any DLR album (even 1984) over the best Van Hagar album.

For me? Both. Too much filler on the Roth discs for me.

TransMonk
Nov 10 2010 09:54 AM
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I guess I can understand that.

Van Halen vs. Van Hagar has to be one of the most debated rock questions of all time.

Edgy DC
Nov 10 2010 09:58 AM
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I'll defintely go with Van Halen, but I will defend (TO THE DEATH!) Van Hagar against the travesty that Van Halen would have become --- which is the real question, even if it the comparison can only be made by delving into abstraction.

metsguyinmichigan
Nov 10 2010 10:10 AM
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I saw VH three times in the DLR era, but never in the Hagar years. Certainly some good songs in each. I liked the "Best of Both Worlds" CD to round up most of the best tracks.

Dave Lee seemed to put some much emphasis in running around the stage that he wasn't even trying to get most or even some of the lyrics in there. But still a fun show.

Edgy DC
Nov 10 2010 11:57 AM
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OK, listening now...

"I Can't Drive 55"
You rebel, you. The embodiment of excusivist libertarianism for the rich.

"There's Only One Way to Rock"
This is an example of the provincialism --- embodied too much by Van Halen that seriously damaged rock credibility --- and left it the province of wasted overprivilgiged white guys who elicit disappointment to their families and resignation from their women. There are, in fact, countless ways to rock.

"Red"
This could be a decent good song --- for Lita Ford. The beats are there, but the hooks are half formed, filing in the blank spots with "Ah, yeah!" If you take out the vocal track, this can be the background music for "Let's look over at the American league scoreboard..."