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IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 06:51 AM

Press conference to start at 11 a.m., carried live on SNY and Mets.com. Sandy Alderson wrote: Dear Mets Fans: We are pleased to announce we have hired Terry Collins as our new Manager. Terry's a lifelong baseball man who comes with the entire package - leadership, preparation, emotional commitment, and the drive to win. We believe Terry's knowledge of our players, energy, intelligence, intensity, and direct approach will make an immediate, positive impact both in the clubhouse and on the field. Terry spent six years as a major-league manager, leading the Anaheim Angels and Houston Astros to winning records and second-place finishes in his five full seasons. He managed the Angels from 1997-1999 and the Astros from 1994-1996, compiling an overall record of 444-434 (.506). We will introduce Terry to the media this morning during a press conference at 11:00 a.m. at Citi Field. SNY and Mets.com will carry it live. Terry will work closely with the Baseball Operations department with the goal of delivering a team of which you can be proud in the short and long term. Thanks for your ongoing support and interest. I just noticed that both our manager and our GM have androgynous first names.

Frayed Knot Nov 23 2010 07:11 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

So I guess that means they'll be slotting in Rene Lachman as pitching coach

Edgy DC Nov 23 2010 07:12 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

They've got to turn the press releases over to me. They've just got to.

Ceetar Nov 23 2010 07:14 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

I'll have eto try to remember to listen. If it even matters. Also, Terry, Jerry, Willie, (Artie?), Bobby. lot's of -y/-ie endings there. Wonder if it really came down to Wally or Terry.

Edgy DC Nov 23 2010 07:31 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Baseball clubhouses, as surely as gravity will pull you down, will tag people with diminutive nicknames. I couldn't stand how Davey Johnson's post-game chats were peppered with references to "Mexy," "Millsy," and "Nailsy." "Nailsy"?

Ceetar Nov 23 2010 07:41 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Edgy DC wrote: Baseball clubhouses, as surely as gravity will pull you down, will tag people with diminutive nicknames. I couldn't stand how Davey Johnson's post-game chats were peppered with references to "Mexy," "Millsy," and "Nailsy." "Nailsy"? You ever listen to Girardi interview with Francessa? He gets so cutesy with the names that you'd think he was a 12 year old girl (the braces help with that as well) Hughesy?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 23 2010 07:49 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Tracksuit with a lengthy tale in the Snooze today tracks down the actors in the Anaheim drama (except Mo Vaughn who's clearly painted as the villain). Lupica with the predictable "You have to win in this town!" piece. I just wanna see if they present him with the No. 1 jersey he's worn elsewhere as a skipper and whether they'd address that it currently belongs to Luis Castillo.

HahnSolo Nov 23 2010 07:49 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

"Ballsy"?

TransMonk Nov 23 2010 07:51 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Turkey!

themetfairy Nov 23 2010 08:08 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Turkey! I always loved that photo :)

MFS62 Nov 23 2010 08:22 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

And then there was Eddie Stanky. Baseball-reference says one of his nicknames was Mugsy. The infielder had played for Brooklyn. But when he became a New York Giant, Brooklyn fans called him Stinky. Later

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:03 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

We're underway... Sandy has just taken the podium.

bmfc1 Nov 23 2010 09:03 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

We're off to a great start as the online feed starts w/the show already in progress. Why isn't Jay Horwitz instructing the press? The Mets need a lawyer to do that? Is Jay asleep already?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:05 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Sandy was brief... now Terry is stepping up. Wearing a blue cap for the photo op.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:05 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Uniform number is 10

bmfc1 Nov 23 2010 09:05 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Sandy and Terry are going to arm wrestle.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 23 2010 09:06 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Uniform number is 10 WoW

bmfc1 Nov 23 2010 09:06 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Terry was hired because he's almost as short as Jeff Wilpon.

soupcan Nov 23 2010 09:07 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Uniform number is 10 WoW Why do you 'WoW' that?

HahnSolo Nov 23 2010 09:07 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Pinstripe jersey

bmfc1 Nov 23 2010 09:08 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

HahnSolo wrote: Pinstripe jersey with the blue hat. As it should be.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:08 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Terry: "I'm not an evil devil." Shades of Christine O'Donnell?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:09 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

He does seem energetic. He talks very quickly.

Edgy DC Nov 23 2010 09:09 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Am I imagining it or did Willy Randolph wear number one at his intro press conference? Has he called them the Knickerbockers yet?

bmfc1 Nov 23 2010 09:10 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Who is applauding? Are fans in attendance?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:10 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Kevin Burkhardt always seems to get the first question, doesn't he?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 23 2010 09:11 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Edgy DC wrote: Am I imagining it or did Willy Randolph wear number one at his intro press conference? Has he called them the Knickerbockers yet? Yes, he did. It also looked like a knockoff jersey, not an official one.

Frayed Knot Nov 23 2010 09:11 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Terry: "I'm not an evil devil." Shades of Christine O'Donnell? That would have been a great opening: 'I'm not an evil devil ... I'm nothing like you've heard ... I'm you'

TransMonk Nov 23 2010 09:11 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

"I’m not the evil devil people have made me out to be." Did he really have to say that? I predict a defensive 2 years coming. Ugh.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:11 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Terry Collins (paraphrased) wrote: When there's dual respect, players take on the personality of the manager. And if that happens, there will be a lot of energy at Citi Field.

HahnSolo Nov 23 2010 09:12 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Kevin Burkhardt always seems to get the first question, doesn't he? Used to like Kevin...now he's got a little smug thing going that is starting to turn me off.

bmfc1 Nov 23 2010 09:12 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

"passion"... so far, his favorite word.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 23 2010 09:15 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

bmfc1 wrote: "passion"... so far, his favorite word. "obviously" a close second.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:15 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

"Energy" is up there too. It's a two-year deal, with a club option for 2013.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 23 2010 09:18 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Asian Reporter from Queens Chronicle on the job!

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:18 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

"Will you bring your Asian experience to Mets to help them win more?" "Will there be more Asian players on the Mets?" I think the same reporter asked very similar questions at Sandy's conference.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 23 2010 09:19 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

He's kind of a dork, isn;t he?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:20 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Kevin gets the first interview too.

bmfc1 Nov 23 2010 09:20 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

No questions from The Times, Newsday, News, etc?

HahnSolo Nov 23 2010 09:21 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Not a lot of questions...where are you Rubin, Lennon, et al?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:21 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Would David Lennon have asked, "Will you bring more Long Island players to Mets?"

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 23 2010 09:21 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

bmfc1 wrote: No questions from The Times, Newsday, News, etc? I thought that was weird too. I guess the print guys get their own conference. I mean what's Russ Salzberg gonna bring me?

bmfc1 Nov 23 2010 09:22 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

BG: excellent!

Ceetar Nov 23 2010 09:23 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Benjamin Grimm wrote: "Will you bring your Asian experience to Mets to help them win more?" "Will there be more Asian players on the Mets?" I think the same reporter asked very similar questions at Sandy's conference. yup. I laughed.

metsguyinmichigan Nov 23 2010 09:23 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

That was pretty quick. I think he handled himself well, and liked the pinstripes and blue cap. He liked the word 'execution." The fundamentals answer was a good one. I winder if the Mets have had more Asian players than any other team. Seems like we have a different one each year -- and none stay for too long.

HahnSolo Nov 23 2010 09:27 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: bmfc1 wrote: No questions from The Times, Newsday, News, etc? I thought that was weird too. I guess the print guys get their own conference. I mean what's Russ Salzberg gonna bring me? I don't think I've ever heard Tracksuit's voice. Was waiting for his question.

metsguyinmichigan Nov 23 2010 09:28 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

As a print guy, I rarely ask questions at a press conference, especially if I know I'm going to get a one-on-one later. I'm not going to serve up questions for the television competition to use before my product gets out there. Our new emphasis on the web has changed that a little. But the television people are usually spread more thin and don't have the expertise that a beat reporter will have. I noticed that they'd hang back, let me ask all the questions and then skedaddle, with me having done all their work for them. So I just stopped asking anything other than the most obvious questions while they were around, and it was fun to see their look of panic.

Edgy DC Nov 23 2010 09:30 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

"I'd like to introduce myself to the assembled media and introduce my pimply red ass to Wally Backman." That was totally uncalled for.

Ceetar Nov 23 2010 09:31 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Despite the "we will still bunt" I liked the message from Collins at least. I didn't hear one maniacal laugh either. refreshing.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 23 2010 09:35 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

HahnSolo wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: bmfc1 wrote: No questions from The Times, Newsday, News, etc? I thought that was weird too. I guess the print guys get their own conference. I mean what's Russ Salzberg gonna bring me? I don't think I've ever heard Tracksuit's voice. Was waiting for his question. He would ask, "Um, could you guys, like, tell me what's happening? The only news I broke during this whole hiring process was that the Mets were going to interview the Phillies bench coach and that didn't turn out to be accurate. So, like, could you help?"

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:35 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Bobby Ojeda is pretty energetic too.

Ashie62 Nov 23 2010 09:36 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

A two year deal for Collins spells "tryout" and "expendable."

Valadius Nov 23 2010 09:40 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

It also spells "unreliable" and "we got the leftovers of the managerial carousel".

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:40 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Sandy: Dave Jauss and Randy Niemann will be "making decisions" in the next couple of days. Howard Johnson and Razor Shines will not be coming back.

Edgy DC Nov 23 2010 09:41 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

It spells absolutely typical for a manager in his position. Sheesh.

bmfc1 Nov 23 2010 09:41 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Terry has radio interviews with MFYs fans later today: Francesa at 1:20 and Kay at 3:20.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:42 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Edgy DC wrote: It spells absolutely typical for a manager in his position. Sheesh. I know! Some people are desperate to find subtext.

Valadius Nov 23 2010 09:47 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

I do find it pretty hilarious that we're going from Jerry to Terry. I don't think I'm likely to call him that, though. I prefer TC.

seawolf17 Nov 23 2010 09:52 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

bmfc1 wrote: Terry has radio interviews with MFYs fans later today: Francesa at 1:20 and Kay at 3:20. Terry's resignation press conference is scheduled for 5:00. "I knew that the media in New York would be tough, but I didn't realize they would be this fucking stupid. There's no way I can take two more years of this. Good luck, Wally."

Ceetar Nov 23 2010 09:55 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Joe and Evan killing the press conference. Is there anything about the Mets people won't criticize? Advertising location and color, wall colors, press conference depth of questions.. what's next, the height of the stairs in the rotunda? The "METS" being off center on the uniform? Sprinkler system? How many sunflower seeds David Wright eats?

dgwphotography Nov 23 2010 09:56 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: bmfc1 wrote: No questions from The Times, Newsday, News, etc? I thought that was weird too. I guess the print guys get their own conference. I mean what's Russ Salzberg gonna bring me? I don't think I've ever heard Tracksuit's voice. Was waiting for his question. He would ask, "Um, could you guys, like, tell me what's happening? The only news I broke during this whole hiring process was that the Mets were going to interview the Phillies bench coach and that didn't turn out to be accurate. So, like, could you help?" He'd also ask why there were only white guys up there...

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 09:58 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Who are Joe and Evan?

Valadius Nov 23 2010 10:00 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Benigno and whoever the hell they paired him with after I left the tri-state area.

Ceetar Nov 23 2010 10:09 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Valadius wrote: Benigno and whoever the hell they paired him with after I left the tri-state area. Beningo is the same story as always. I actually like Evan. He's about as good as you can get out of a mainstream radio host i guess. I think Joe poisons him with the negativity often. But still, they branched off into some conspiracy about the Mets 'protecting' Collins from the tough questions in the main conference.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 23 2010 10:10 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Ceetar wrote: Valadius wrote: I actually like Evan. He's about as good as you can get out of a mainstream radio host i guess. He's a retard.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 23 2010 10:14 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ceetar wrote: Valadius wrote: I actually like Evan. He's about as good as you can get out of a mainstream radio host i guess. He's a retard. And he comes off as "the smart one."

G-Fafif Nov 23 2010 10:16 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

I get the feeling these events have evolved to suit different media needs. The TV sportscasts need sound of their reporter, who doesn't cover the Mets beyond a piece of tape now and then, asking a question. The podium stuff is for the preening. Then there's the sitdown with the beat writers -- I noticed the sitdown went long after the official Alderson presser so maybe there was some arrangement or bow to reality to just herd everybody over to another table and get down to serious Collins business there. At one point on SNY there was a shot of photogs surrounding said table after the podium stuff. Not great for us folks trying to follow along at home or wherever, but perhaps it's more effective for somebody. As long as China News gets taken care of.

Frayed Knot Nov 23 2010 10:36 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

He liked the word "execution." So will the fans if he doesn't win.

G-Fafif Nov 23 2010 10:36 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

From Rubin, one of the fun nuggets that's dished out at the cool kids' table: Terry Collins said he intends to wear No. 10 as a tribute to Detroit Tigers manager Jim Leyland. "He gave me my shot to get to the big leagues," Collins said, referring to their days with the Pirates. "And he's a great friend. So I wanted to wear it for him. "Plus, my wife thinks I'm a 10. ... That's a joke."

Edgy DC Nov 23 2010 11:07 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: "Um, could you guys, like, tell me what's happening? The only news I broke during this whole hiring process was that the Mets were going to interview the Phillies bench coach and that didn't turn out to be accurate. So, like, could you help?" I've got Larry Bowa as a primary source, but who do I go to for confirmation?

Edgy DC Nov 23 2010 11:11 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

From Rubin, one of the fun nuggets that's dished out at the cool kids' table: Terry Collins said he intends to wear No. 10 as a tribute to Detroit Tigers manager Jim Leyland. "He gave me my shot to get to the big leagues," Collins said, referring to their days with the Pirates. "And he's a great friend. So I wanted to wear it for him. "Plus, my wife thinks I'm a 10. ... That's a joke." Managers who wore 10: Torborg?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 23 2010 11:13 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Yup, that's it. I thought he could still go to No. 1 if/when they axe Castillo but now it'll look like he's dissing Jim Leland so 10 it is.

TransMonk Nov 23 2010 11:53 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Couldn't watch it live, but after watching the replay, I like Terry more than I did 4 hours ago. I still think the true test will be the first time we lose 4 in a row and the sky falls. But I like what I heard here in November.

soupcan Nov 23 2010 12:11 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

I really like reading Phil Mushnick's column in the Post because at least once a week he points out what an egomaniac Francesa is. His column is really the only place I ever see criticism of Francesa in the press and it makes me feel as though I am not alone in my dislike for the radio guy. The reason I bring this up is because I am presently listening to WFAN and Francesa is interviewing Collins. Francesa believes himself to be such an expert in all things sports that - as anyone who ever listens to his program knows - whenever he has a guest on, rather than ask them their opinion of things, Francesa attempts to impress them with his own superior knowledge of whatever sport they happen to be discussing. Just a few minutes ago he educated the new Mets manager by telling him which players that the Mets called up last season produced. In a way that genuinely seemed to me as if Francesa was giving Collins knowledge about things that Collins didn't know and would be grateful to learn! Then - he says 'Terry, Mets fans really wanted Backman as the manager. The rest of the candidates didn't matter at all. tell the Met fan listening someting about that you that they didn't know...' Huh? what does the Backman line have to do with anything? Then 'Terry, the DUI you have on your record - will that be a problem for you if you try to discipline a player and that player then puts that back in your face?' I mean....really? Lame, lame, lame.

Ceetar Nov 23 2010 12:30 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

soupcan wrote: I really like reading Phil Mushnick's column in the Post because at least once a week he points out what an egomaniac Francesa is. His column is really the only place I ever see criticism of Francesa in the press and it makes me feel as though I am not alone in my dislike for the radio guy. The reason I bring this up is because I am presently listening to WFAN and Francesa is interviewing Collins. Francesa believes himself to be such an expert in all things sports that - as anyone who ever listens to his program knows - whenever he has a guest on, rather than ask them their opinion of things, Francesa attempts to impress them with his own superior knowledge of whatever sport they happen to be discussing. Just a few minutes ago he educated the new Mets manager by telling him which players that the Mets called up last season produced. In a way that genuinely seemed to me as if Francesa was giving Collins knowledge about things that Collins didn't know and would be grateful to learn! Then - he says 'Terry, Mets fans really wanted Backman as the manager. The rest of the candidates didn't matter at all. tell the Met fan listening someting about that you that they didn't know...' Huh? what does the Backman line have to do with anything? Then 'Terry, the DUI you have on your record - will that be a problem for you if you try to discipline a player and that player then puts that back in your face?' I mean....really? Lame, lame, lame. Brings up the Reyes dancing thing, which I don't think has been a discussion anywhere else but on his or Michael Kay's show for a while, and quotes a 'source' that's a 'player' that says Reyes won't be dancing with Collins. And gets smacked down, but sticks with it.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 01:23 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Terry will be the first Mets manager never to manage a game for the Mets at Shea Stadium. (I had to verify, but Mike Cubbage and Salty Parker did manage home games during their short stints. Cubbage just barely made the cut; only the first of his seven games was played at Shea.) At least Terry Collins did manage against the Mets at Shea when he was with Houston. Some day we'll have a Mets manager who never set foot in Shea Stadium.

G-Fafif Nov 23 2010 01:35 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Terry will be the first Mets manager never to manage a game for the Mets at Shea Stadium. (I had to verify, but Mike Cubbage and Salty Parker did manage home games during their short stints. Cubbage just barely made the cut; only the first of his seven games was played at Shea.) At least Terry Collins did manage against the Mets at Shea when he was with Houston. Some day we'll have a Mets manager who never set foot in Shea Stadium. Bracing. And inevitable. In the 160th and 161st games of last season, seven of the nine starters never played for the Mets at Shea Stadium. Time marches on, the bastard.

Frayed Knot Nov 23 2010 01:45 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Just a few minutes ago [Francesa] educated the new Mets manager by telling him which players that the Mets called up last season produced. In a way that genuinely seemed to me as if Francesa was giving Collins knowledge about things that Collins didn't know and would be grateful to learn! Nothing like having a talk-show host with no knowledge of the minor leagues whatsoever tell last season's minor league coordinator what the new talent is like.

soupcan Nov 23 2010 02:07 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Frayed Knot wrote: Nothing like having a talk-show host with no knowledge of the minor leagues whatsoever tell last season's minor league coordinator what the new talent is like. Exactly!

Benjamin Grimm Nov 23 2010 02:09 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

And the thing is, Francesa is such an idiot that it would never occur to him that Terry Collins might know more about the Mets farm system than he does.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 23 2010 08:57 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

He's kinda old-timey-brand enthusiastic. It's charming.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 23 2010 09:23 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

I don't know if I was charmed. I kinda found him dorky and light on substance when I wanted some focus and interestingness. On the basis of the introductory press conference alone, miles and miles behind Jerry.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 23 2010 09:25 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Twenty-one years after the Polo Grounds last hosted a baseball game, Davey Johnson (1984) became the first Mets manager never to have appeared in the Polo Grounds as a major leaguer. But including interim managers, Salty Parker never appeared in the Polo Grounds, either. Salty's ML playing career consisted of one month in the AL with the Detroit Tigers (1936). He began his coaching career with the Giants in San Francisco during the precise period when the Polo Grounds was tenantless (1958-61), and in 1962, coached in the AL (Cleveland Indians). Salty was out of the majors during the Polo Grounds' last season, 1963.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 24 2010 04:17 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

I don't know if I was charmed. I kinda found him dorky and light on substance when I wanted some focus and interestingness. On the basis of the introductory press conference alone, miles and miles behind Jerry. He seems more informative in smaller groups. On the Angels situation: "And negativism, or losing, breeds negativism in the clubhouse. I did a bad job of managing the clubhouse. No question about it. And I'm accountable for that. I was the manager of that team. I should have done a better job of staying on top of it. I didn't. I learned from it. It will never happen -- I will guarantee you -- it will not happen here." On the minors and knowing the system: "And [farm director] Adam Wogan, who has become a very good friend of mine, we will be in constant contact. Even though the reports say one thing, I want to know the real truth what's going on. I contact my minor league managers. I always have. The Triple-A manager, obviously, will receive a phone call a week so I'm on top of things. My knowledge of who those guys are and what they can do, I think, will be firsthand when it comes to the middle of the season. If I need a one-inning guy that can get me into the seventh inning, is it going to be Tobi Stoner? Is it going to be Jeurys Familia? Somebody? I'll know who those guys might be." On his rep: "When you say disciplinarian, I don't yell and scream at players. I never did. That's a misconception. Sometimes during a game if you walk over to a guy and say, 'Hey, look, I want some effort,' in a certain situation, it doesn't have to be broadcast. It's just your point has to be made. And, yes, I've taken major league players out of the lineup for not running. I just think sometimes it sends a message. But I know one thing: Once in a while, if you understand the circumstances, you've got to turn your head on some things. "Somebody asked me one time, 'Geez, I don't like, your left fielder is walking out to left field between innings.' I said, 'Yeah.' He said, ''What are you going to do about it?' I said, 'Nothing., How does he go after fly balls? That's the only thing I really care about.' But I also believe players -- the real good players -- they're self-disciplined. They don't need discipline. I sat next to Barry Bonds when I was in Pittsburgh. Nobody ever, ever saw this guy work. They only talked about how he played. I saw him work. And this guy wanted to be the best player going. Was he hard on some things? Was he tough sometimes to be around? Yeah. But he was driven to be the best. And that, to me, is self-discipline. And that's what I'm going to try to instill in our guys -- 'look, you have a chance to be great.' " On statistical analysis in the game today: "The statistical stuff, obviously there's value in it. It's been proven. There's value in it today. When I was managing in Houston, we had an advance scout. When I went to Anaheim, all of a sudden the computer age came in. There was Inside Edge. I know now there's different services people use. Joe Maddon is a great friend of mine, who was my bench coach, who started to get into that. There's a place for it. And it wins games for you." On Jose Reyes-style dancing: "As long as it's played hard and with energy, that other stuff I can --- Do I like it? Not necessarily. But I understand it is part of the game and I can deal with that." So you wouldn't necessarily tell a modern player to keep that behavior at a minimum? "Only if they start throwing at him. Then I've got to address it. If Jose Reyes jumps up and down and somebody drills him, I'm going to be very unhappy." With whom? "Well, No. 1 probably the other side, just as much as Jose. Probably less with Jose. But I'll certainly say, 'You know what? You might want to calm that down because we need you in the lineup."

metirish Nov 24 2010 04:27 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

I liked his energy, I feel enthused.

Valadius Nov 24 2010 08:32 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Why do our recent run of managers sound just like a Fox Sports broadcast team? I mean, come on, Jerry, Terry, Bobby and Willie, for God's sake...

Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2010 08:35 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

I agree that the manager's first name should have figured more prominently in the decision. In fact, it should have been the primary consideration.

G-Fafif Nov 24 2010 08:36 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Valadius wrote: Why do our recent run of managers sound just like a Fox Sports broadcast team? I mean, come on, Jerry, Terry, Bobby and Willie, for God's sake... Now we turn to our Fox Sports insider. Art, you've spent the whole week at Dallas Green...what do things look like there?

Edgy DC Nov 24 2010 10:45 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

"And [farm director] Adam Wogan, who has become a very good friend of mine, we will be in constant contact. Even though the reports say one thing, I want to know the real truth what's going on. I contact my minor league managers. I always have. The Triple-A manager, obviously, will receive a phone call a week so I'm on top of things. My knowledge of who those guys are and what they can do, I think, will be firsthand when it comes to the middle of the season. If I need a one-inning guy that can get me into the seventh inning, is it going to be Tobi Stoner? Is it going to be Jeurys Familia? Somebody? I'll know who those guys might be." Not that I didn't believe this to be so, but this is EXACTLY what I wanted to hear. Jerry abosolutely killed me in this regard. Murdered me. Drove me out to Miller's Crossing and left my corpse to molder. Is Jose Reyes's behavior really an issue in 2010? Really?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 24 2010 11:11 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Yes, that is an encouraging remark. Really what I've thought of since the regime change is Marty Noble's remarks on Frank Cashen, that he could take a peice of paper out of his desk and tell you who'd be on the Mets in 5 years while Omar (and really, the Mets in general since Cashen) never really bothered to see any value in it. Is Jose Reyes's behavior really an issue in 2010? Really? Talkradio douchebags like Kay think it's an issue.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 24 2010 11:26 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Edgy DC wrote: "And [farm director] Adam Wogan, who has become a very good friend of mine, we will be in constant contact. Even though the reports say one thing, I want to know the real truth what's going on. I contact my minor league managers. I always have. The Triple-A manager, obviously, will receive a phone call a week so I'm on top of things. My knowledge of who those guys are and what they can do, I think, will be firsthand when it comes to the middle of the season. If I need a one-inning guy that can get me into the seventh inning, is it going to be Tobi Stoner? Is it going to be Jeurys Familia? Somebody? I'll know who those guys might be." Not that I didn't believe this to be so, but this is EXACTLY what I wanted to hear. Jerry abosolutely killed me in this regard. Murdered me. Drove me out to Miller's Crossing and left my corpse to molder. Same. Reading this gave me some comfort, but then I was bugged that it was so much of a comfort after what came before. Before late-2009, I used to think Jerry was playing at not knowing some of the high-minors regulars. Now, I don't think Manuel knew enough minor-league-system-guys' names to even MANGLE them. Is Jose Reyes's behavior really an issue in 2010? Really? Just means that one print guy asked the question. Was Madden there yesterday? Klap?

Ceetar Nov 24 2010 11:29 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Is Jose Reyes's behavior really an issue in 2010? Really? Just means that one print guy asked the question. Was Madden there yesterday? Klap? Francessa asked it. Based on a "player source" at some dinner saying Collins wouldn't stand for it.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 24 2010 11:32 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Reyes frequently gets bashed in the Philadelphia Inquirer sports section. The "Mets-hating" portion of the media seems to like to make a lot of Jose's antics, while the "Mets friendly" portion doesn't at all. It's kind of like how some stories get covered on FOX and others on MSNBC.

Valadius Nov 24 2010 11:39 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Reminds me of the media's reaction to Alexander Ovechkin in the NHL. Either you like Ovie's antics or you live in Pittsburgh or Canada.

Ceetar Nov 24 2010 11:42 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Reyes frequently gets bashed in the Philadelphia Inquirer sports section. The "Mets-hating" portion of the media seems to like to make a lot of Jose's antics, while the "Mets friendly" portion doesn't at all. It's kind of like how some stories get covered on FOX and others on MSNBC. I like that the Phillies obsess over it. Focus on Reyes dancing, and not on the meatball Hamels served up that Reyes smacked over the fence to prompt it.

Edgy DC Nov 24 2010 12:20 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

I just think there's virtually nothing to even have controversy over. It's like complainng about a guy's hat size.

Ceetar Nov 24 2010 12:24 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Edgy DC wrote: I just think there's virtually nothing to even have controversy over. It's like complainng about a guy's hat size. Personally I think Reyes wears his hat too big. he really needs to move down a size.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 09:13 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

G-Fafif wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Terry will be the first Mets manager never to manage a game for the Mets at Shea Stadium. (I had to verify, but Mike Cubbage and Salty Parker did manage home games during their short stints. Cubbage just barely made the cut; only the first of his seven games was played at Shea.) At least Terry Collins did manage against the Mets at Shea when he was with Houston. Some day we'll have a Mets manager who never set foot in Shea Stadium. Bracing. And inevitable. In the 160th and 161st games of last season, seven of the nine starters never played for the Mets at Shea Stadium. Time marches on, the bastard. Through 1985, (but not including 1980), the Mets have always had at least one player who played in the Polo Grounds -- a record prolonged primarily by Ed Kranepool and Rusty Staub. There are 14 Mets who played in the Polo grounds and also played for the Mets in the 1970's. Kranepool and Staub are two of them. Name the other 12.

dgwphotography Nov 26 2010 09:24 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 26 2010 09:25 AM

batmagadanleadoff wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Terry will be the first Mets manager never to manage a game for the Mets at Shea Stadium. (I had to verify, but Mike Cubbage and Salty Parker did manage home games during their short stints. Cubbage just barely made the cut; only the first of his seven games was played at Shea.) At least Terry Collins did manage against the Mets at Shea when he was with Houston. Some day we'll have a Mets manager who never set foot in Shea Stadium. Bracing. And inevitable. In the 160th and 161st games of last season, seven of the nine starters never played for the Mets at Shea Stadium. Time marches on, the bastard. Through 1985, (but not including 1980), the Mets have always had at least one player who played in the Polo Grounds -- a record prolonged primarily by Ed Kranepool and Rusty Staub. There are 14 Mets who played in the Polo grounds and also played for the Mets in the 1970's. Kranepool and Staub are two of them. Name the other 12. Willie Mays Donn Clendenon Joe Torre

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 26 2010 09:24 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Willie Mays Bob Miller Joe Torre Ray Sadecki

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 26 2010 09:26 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Bob Friend Cleon Jones

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 09:27 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

[u:1h9epc53]'70's Polo Mets (Last Met season in parentheses)[/u:1h9epc53] Willie Mays (1973) -- dgw Donn Clendenon (1971) -- dgw One guess per post. Rusty Staub is the only 1980's Met to have played in the Polo Grounds. Jose Cardenal (1980) was active in 1963 but did not appear in a game played at the Polo Grounds.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 09:30 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

[u:w9yp4ix9]'70's Polo Mets (Last Met season in parentheses)[/u:w9yp4ix9] Ray Sadecki (1977) -- JCL Joe Torre (1977) -- dgw Cleon Jones (1975) -- JCL Bob Miller (1974) -- JCL Willie Mays (1973) -- dgw Donn Clendenon (1971) -- dgw [u:w9yp4ix9]Nope-o Polo[/u:w9yp4ix9] Bob Friend -- JCL (Friend was exclusively a '60's Met) One guess per post. Rusty Staub is the only 1980's Met to have played in the Polo Grounds. Jose Cardenal (1980) was active in 1963 but did not appear in a game played at the Polo Grounds.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 26 2010 09:35 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Dean Chance (I conflate him with Friend) Al Weis

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 09:47 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

[u:e8pbyuqk]'70's Polo Mets (Last Met season in parentheses)[/u:e8pbyuqk] Ray Sadecki (1977) -- JCL Joe Torre (1977) -- dgw Cleon Jones (1975) -- JCL Bob Miller (1974) -- JCL Willie Mays (1973) -- dgw Donn Clendenon (1971) -- dgw [u:e8pbyuqk]Nope-o Polo[/u:e8pbyuqk] Bob Friend -- JCL (Friend was exclusively a '60's Met) Al Weis -- JCL Dean Chance -- JCL (The only Nl ball that Weis & Chance ever played was with the Mets. The two innings that Chance pitched for the Mets in 1970 were the only NL innings that Chance ever pitched in his 10 year MLB career).

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 09:49 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Here's a hint: one of these players was the last remaining Brooklyn Dodger. The Mets were the last MLB team he ever played for.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 26 2010 10:03 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

That would have to be Bob Aspromonte.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 10:06 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

[u:8ocw87j4]'70's Polo Mets (Last Met season in parentheses)[/u:8ocw87j4] Ray Sadecki (1977) -- JCL Joe Torre (1977) -- dgw Cleon Jones (1975) -- JCL Bob Miller (1974) -- JCL Willie Mays (1973) -- dgw Bob Aspromonte (1971) -- Grimm Donn Clendenon (1971) -- dgw [u:8ocw87j4]Nope-o Polo[/u:8ocw87j4] Bob Friend -- JCL (Friend was exclusively a '60's Met) Al Weis -- JCL Dean Chance -- JCL (The only Nl ball that Weis & Chance ever played was with the Mets. The two innings that Chance pitched for the Mets in 1970 were the only NL innings that Chance ever pitched in his 10 year MLB career).

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 26 2010 10:10 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Jim Beauchamp

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 10:15 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

[u:2xpa7wwx]'70's Polo Mets (Last Met season in parentheses)[/u:2xpa7wwx] Ray Sadecki (1977) -- JCL Joe Torre (1977) -- dgw Cleon Jones (1975) -- JCL Bob Miller (1974) -- JCL Willie Mays (1973) -- dgw Bob Aspromonte (1971) -- Grimm Donn Clendenon (1971) -- dgw [u:2xpa7wwx]Nope-o Polo[/u:2xpa7wwx] Bob Friend -- JCL (Friend was exclusively a '60's Met) Al Weis -- JCL Dean Chance -- JCL (The only Nl ball that Weis & Chance ever played was with the Mets. The two innings that Chance pitched for the Mets in 1970 were the only NL innings that Chance ever pitched in his 10 year MLB career). Jim Beauchamp -- JCL (Beauchamp appeared in four games in 1963 - none at the Polo Grounds).

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 10:16 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Four of the five remaining '70's Polo Mets were pitchers.

dgwphotography Nov 26 2010 10:55 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Don Cardwell

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 11:44 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

[u:3cdg01tb]'70's Polo Mets (Last Met season in parentheses)[/u:3cdg01tb] Ray Sadecki (1977) -- JCL Joe Torre (1977) -- dgw Cleon Jones (1975) -- JCL Bob Miller (1974) -- JCL Willie Mays (1973) -- dgw Bob Aspromonte (1971) -- Grimm Donn Clendenon (1971) -- dgw Don Cardwell (1970) -- dgw [u:3cdg01tb]Nope-o Polo[/u:3cdg01tb] Bob Friend -- JCL (Friend was exclusively a '60's Met) Al Weis -- JCL Dean Chance -- JCL (The only Nl ball that Weis & Chance ever played was with the Mets. The two innings that Chance pitched for the Mets in 1970 were the only NL innings that Chance ever pitched in his 10 year MLB career). Jim Beauchamp -- JCL (Beauchamp appeared in four games in 1963 - none at the Polo Grounds).

Ashie62 Nov 26 2010 12:38 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Here's a hint: one of these players was the last remaining Brooklyn Dodger. The Mets were the last MLB team he ever played for. Clem Labine

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 12:39 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Ashie62 wrote: Here's a hint: one of these players was the last remaining Brooklyn Dodger. The Mets were the last MLB team he ever played for. Clem Labine See Grimm's post, above.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 04:57 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

I'll post the remaining four 70's Polo Mets this evening.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 06:55 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

The four remaining '70's Polo Mets are: 1) Ron Herbel (1970). Herbel, I thought, was the toughest answer. He barely qualified -- pitching 12 innings for the 1970 Mets and debuting as a major leaguer with the SF Giants on 9/10/63 against the Mets at the Polo Grounds, where he pitched one inning of relief. Herbel's total IP for 1963 were 1 1/3. 2) Cal Koonce (1970) 3) Ron Taylor (1971) and 4) Jesus Alou (1975) Jesus made his major league debut with the SF Giants on 9/10/63 against the Mets at the Polo Grounds -- the same game in which Ron Herbel also made his major league debut. Alou and Herbel -- photographed for their Topps Rookie Card at the Polo Grounds:

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 09:55 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Spinoff trivia: Who was the last remaining active major leaguer to have played in the Polo grounds?

HahnSolo Nov 26 2010 10:12 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

^^ Charlie Hustle???

batmagadanleadoff Nov 26 2010 10:22 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

It's Rose. Pete Rose's solo homerun accounts for all the scoring the Reds would need to defeat the Mets at the Polo Grounds 1-0. Jim Maloney's complete game shutout in the nightcap prevented the Metsies from sweeping the doubleheader. ("If you put your arms around my neck, I'll rub your pocket. Tee hee.").

dgwphotography Nov 27 2010 12:51 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

batmagadanleadoff wrote: He looks a lot like Brandon Cruz there...

Edgy DC Nov 27 2010 04:47 PM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

Also looks like he's going for Maloney's baloney.

MFS62 Nov 28 2010 09:31 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

I remember sitting in the upper deck right field stands with my friends when the Mets played SF. We kept yelling at the right fielder "Hey Alou! Which Alou are you?" Later

Edgy DC Nov 30 2010 07:28 AM Re: IPCT (In Press Conference Transcript) Introducing Terry

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Am I imagining it or did Willy Randolph wear number one at his intro press conference? Has he called them the Knickerbockers yet? Yes, he did. It also looked like a knockoff jersey, not an official one. I was thinking abou this --- about 1 being some sort of default managerial number for press introductions, when I stumbled on this photo. (Thanks, mbtn.net!) Number 31, of course, wasn't the number Johnson wore, but it was the number of his most recent non-interim predecessor, who also had it flaunted at his press introduction. Maybe 31 was the old 1.