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Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities
metirish Dec 07 2010 12:50 PM |
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Thankfully none of these shenanigans will effect the Mets ...right?
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Vic Sage Dec 07 2010 12:59 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities |
so let me get this straight: the wilpons made nearly $50M off the scams of their pal Bernie, while their employees took a huge bath on their 401k investments resulting from that profitable fraud?
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Valadius Dec 07 2010 01:04 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities |
They made money, and yet claim they're in the poorhouse?
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TransMonk Dec 07 2010 01:05 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities |
I feel dirty just reading that article.
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Edgy DC Dec 07 2010 01:22 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities |
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I miss the part where the Mets or the Wilpons claim they're in the poorhouse.
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batmagadanleadoff Dec 07 2010 01:27 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Dec 07 2010 01:33 PM |
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It could be. The Wilpons had to have been advised about the likelihood -- I'd say certainty-- of these lawsuits. What surprises me is that it took until the eleventh hour for the Wilpons to be dragged in. If I was the trustee, I'd be very curious about the circumstances that enabled Wilpon groups to profit from Madoff, considering that Madoff's holdings were fabricated and that there probably weren't any real profits to distribute. How is it that Sterling Equities profited from Madoff investments while 92% of the employee pension plan was wiped out? Did Sterling really profit or did Madoff favor Wilpon at the expense his other victims?
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Edgy DC Dec 07 2010 01:28 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities |
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Well, this article doesn't speak to the employees' situation, it certainly has been reported that the Mets' employees were broadly bilked. It makes sense, as a corporate investor is more likely to withdraw money as needed while an employee --- for whom a retirement account is often his or her only liquid asset --- would tend to lay off that money as long as possible, letting it compound on those bullshit profit reports.
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Edgy DC Dec 07 2010 01:30 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities |
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They've been dragged in all along, and have been negotiating for quite some time with regards to their obligation towards restitution toward the other investors. The reason he's filing suit now is that the sunset on the eligibility of the suit is about to come, and with that, the hammer that he holds over the Wilpons' heads.
Because, presumably, they made withdrawals from their accounts, and Madoff had to pay up from all the money he had accrued to keep the lie alive.
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batmagadanleadoff Dec 07 2010 01:32 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Dec 07 2010 01:37 PM |
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I know that. That's why I wrote "eleventh hour". It appears that, so far, Sterling hasn't found the proper motivation to settle this matter --- at least not to the trustee's satisfaction.
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TransMonk Dec 07 2010 01:34 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities |
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I wonder exactly what they mean by "compete" and by "win".
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 07 2010 01:57 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities |
If there's one overriding uniformed conclusion I've drawn from the whole Madoff episode, it's that the folks who invested with him almost had to know there was something fishy about it, or rather, they handed off their money willfully not wanting to know how it returned as much as as it did. I don't know how you unravel all this but I'm sure the losers are as guilty as the gainers in that respect.
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Ceetar Dec 07 2010 02:04 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities |
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As do i. I mean, they've repeatedly stated that it won't affect the Mets. They also said that anyone they interviewed for GM that said the Mets weren't that far from competing wasn't going to get the job. So, if they're entirely truthful, they realize they need to spend. Yet Sandy is repeatedly quoted implying that the Mets have a hard budget that they're almost up against. So which is it? Someone ask Sandy.
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batmagadanleadoff Dec 07 2010 02:12 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities |
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You could be right. I don't know what the Wilpon group knew or didn't know, but it's quite [crossout]possible[/crossout] probable, as it is with most Ponzi schemes, that Madoff was simply sitting on piles and piles of money, and doling some of it back to his investors as supposed "profits', arbitrarily and at his whim in order to perpetuate his scam --- and that these supposed "profits" had no correlation to any real-life profitable ROI because there were no real profits. If so, the Wilpon group should take a hit to the wallet down the line.
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Ashie62 Dec 07 2010 04:59 PM Re: Madoff Trustee Sues Sterling Equities |
My guess is will be settled slightly north or south of the plaintiff's number
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