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John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 14 2009 08:17 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 27 2010 07:45 AM

The thread for questions only the UMD can answer.

Like, how did Jason Roach manage to become today's (9/14) Most Popular Lookup?

metirish
Sep 15 2009 10:51 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Dataqueries

What's interesting is that he has been the most popular lookup before too. April 20th , 2008 and this past Sunday the 13th

Looking at the memories of Jason Roach section might lead to a clue ,

Joe Figliola
October 10, 2003
He may be a "cockroach" when he pitches, but Jason's a big larvae on campus when it comes to hitting.

If he doesn't play another game for the Mets this season, then Jason would become the only Met player ever to hit 1.000 on a two-for-two.Think of it: Gary Bennett; Dave Liddell; Rodney McCray; and Ray Searage (I'm probably forgetting one or twomore) would all play second fiddle to a guy who had more hits in his only two at-bats of the year than Al Leiter had in 53 ABs and thirtysomething games. Such is the story of the 2003 Mets.


could he have been a trivia question?


I hope this wasn't a trivia question , was it?

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 15 2009 11:01 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Dataqueries

Sometimes a search on Google News provides the answer, like it did recently with Ricky Otero.

This time, not so much, unless people were inspired to search on "Jason Roach" because of this article, which appeared on September 13:

http://www.capebretonpost.com/index.cfm ... 899&sc=150

A chance meeting with Cheticamp pianist Jason Roach has led to engagements in Cape Breton, mainland Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and New England.

Ashie62
Sep 15 2009 12:47 PM
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I can't find Chico Esquela

Edgy MD
Sep 16 2009 02:04 PM
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And Michael Joseph Bacsik yesterday. What the hell?

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 16 2009 02:08 PM
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I have no idea.

Maybe he (or someone with the same name) was mentioned on the radio or something. Google News search comes up empty.

Edgy MD
Sep 16 2009 02:10 PM
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Unhappy is he that does not know the cause of things.

themetfairy
Sep 16 2009 02:51 PM
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We remember Mike Bacsik -


Ashie62
Sep 16 2009 02:52 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
And Michael Joseph Bacsik yesterday. What the hell?


http://twitter.com/MikeBacsik

This might be why..he has been pontificating

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 07 2009 12:10 PM
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Lee Mazzilli has bumped Tom Seaver down into fifth place in the all-time UMDB lookups. (I think this happened some time today.) When the UMDB started, Seaver was number 1, (which I think is appropriate) but he was eventually passed by Mike Piazza.

Since then, Piazza has slipped into third place. Keith Hernandez is number 1, by a sizable margin, followed by Dwight Gooden, Piazza, Mazzilli, and Seaver.

Mazzilli really doesn't belong in that company.

Ron Darling, Tug McGraw, Darryl Strawberry, Mookie Wilson, and David Wright round out the top ten.

Centerfield
Oct 07 2009 12:33 PM
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Mazzilli might be explained by younger fans wanting to know why SNY hired such a creepy guy to be in the booth last year.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 20 2009 05:58 AM
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Believe it or not, I just "discovered" this page, and thought it was kinda cool, so I thought I'd share:

http://www.ultimatemets.com/memrecent.php?tabno=I

Edgy MD
Oct 20 2009 07:50 AM
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That's a great page.

Seems like to get over 50 memories, you have as good a chance by being hated as you do by being loved. Guys who were both --- Gooden, Franco, Strawberry --- do particularly well, as do guys who had afterlives as managers or broadcasters.

Most Memorialized Mets[/bigpurple]

1 Mike Piazza 121
2 Tom Seaver 116
3 Dave Kingman 102
4 Keith Hernandez 101
5 Rusty Staub 95

6 Dwight Gooden 93
7 David Wright 87
8 Len Dykstra 86
9 Lee Mazzilli 85
10 Ed Kranepool 83

11 Darryl Strawberry 79
T-12 Jerry Koosman 78
T-12 Kevin McReynolds 78
14 Bruce Boisclair 76
15 John Franco 74

16 Bobby Valentine 72
T-17 Roberto Alomar 71
T-17 Mo Vaughn 71
19 Howard Johnson 69
20 Jose Reyes 67

21 Tom Glavine 66
22 Willie Randolph 65
23 Tommie Agee 64
24 Gary Carter 63
T-25 Robin Ventura 62

T-25 Mookie Wilson 62
27 Jerry Grote 61
T-28 Jeromy Burnitz 60
T-28 Steve Trachsel 60
T-30 Bobby Bonilla 58

T-30 Gregg Jefferies 58
T-32 Ron Darling 56
T-32 John Stearns 56
34 Ron Swoboda 55
35 Ron Hodges 54

T-36 Wally Backman 53
T-36 Cleon Jones 53
T-36 Ty Wigginton 53
T-39 Edgardo Alfonzo 51
T-39 Armando Benitez 51

T-39 Sid Fernandez 51
T-39 Richie Hebner 51
T-39 Felix Millan 51
44 Doug Sisk 50

Interesting that Bud Harrellson --- despite a long career as a player; an afterlife as a coach, manager, broadcaster; the key role in one of the most famous, if not the most famous, fights in Mets history; a high-profile post baseball career in the area as Duck owner; and being touched by notorious tabloid news --- is still so non-descript that he doesn't make this list. In fact, he has fewer memories posted (32) than Allen F. Watson (40).

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 20 2009 07:54 AM
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Bud's stint as manager I think somewhat tarnished his old-skool appeal.

This list proves that you just don't F with Bruce Boisclair!

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 20 2009 08:21 AM
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I'm really surprised by how high some of these numbers are. 87 memories about David Wright? They seem to just trickle in, but I never noticed how quickly they were adding up.

And I have no memory of creating that page. I was absolutely surprised to see it there. I must have knocked it out pretty quickly. (Either that, or it was put there by elves.)

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 03 2010 02:56 PM
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A 1962 Met, Larry Foss, posted a memory of Gene Woodling today to the UMDB.

Edgy MD
Mar 03 2010 03:11 PM
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That's a great memory.

G-Fafif
Mar 03 2010 04:24 PM
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"Pimping"?

Valadius
Mar 03 2010 05:34 PM
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He left his e-mail. I think Grimmy should reach out to him in some fashion.

seawolf17
Mar 03 2010 07:43 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
A 1962 Met, Larry Foss, posted a memory of Gene Woodling today to the UMDB.

You going to drop him a note as Val suggested? If not, I will, as I'd like to request if it's okay to mail him a card to be autographed.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 03 2010 08:01 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
You going to drop him a note as Val suggested? If not, I will, as I'd like to request if it's okay to mail him a card to be autographed.


Go right ahead. I don't expect I'll be contacting him.

Fman99
Mar 04 2010 06:20 AM
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We're making Mets daiquiris? I'll have one please.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 26 2010 07:17 PM
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What's the Mets' all-time record in doubleheaders? sweep/split/swept?

When was our last sweep? If I had to guess I'd say we're pretty rotten in this stat in recent years but I don't really know. We split last year at least once as I recall

Fman99
Apr 26 2010 07:44 PM
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I swear, I was just about to make the exact same joke I made two posts ago back in March.

Fwife is right, I really only know about 10 funny things and I just beat them to death! Fuck. I'll watch George Lopez this week and I'll have some all new material for everyone.

Valadius
Apr 26 2010 07:52 PM
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One little tidbit I found interesting is that the Mets have the all-time best record on Opening Day out of any MLB franchise.

Gwreck
Apr 26 2010 08:19 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
What's the Mets' all-time record in doubleheaders? sweep/split/swept?

When was our last sweep? If I had to guess I'd say we're pretty rotten in this stat in recent years but I don't really know. We split last year at least once as I recall


We haven't won a home DH since 2006 and over the last ten years, only won 4, 3 of which were in 2000. We also haven't lost a home DH since 2003 either.

Home
4 Wins
11 Split
4 Losses

Road
2 Wins
2 Splits
4 Losses

2 Stadiums, 1 Day
1 Split
2 Losses

Ashie62
Apr 26 2010 10:05 PM
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Time to win one

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 27 2010 07:35 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Dataqueries

Gwreck wrote:
John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
What's the Mets' all-time record in doubleheaders? sweep/split/swept?

When was our last sweep? If I had to guess I'd say we're pretty rotten in this stat in recent years but I don't really know. We split last year at least once as I recall


We haven't won a home DH since 2006 and over the last ten years, only won 4, 3 of which were in 2000. We also haven't lost a home DH since 2003 either.

Home
4 Wins
11 Split
4 Losses

Road
2 Wins
2 Splits
4 Losses

2 Stadiums, 1 Day
1 Split
2 Losses


So that's 6-14-10 Sweep/Split/Swept since 2000; and 3-14-9 since 2001? Can the umd check this out? Thanks!

Willets Point
Apr 27 2010 07:37 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Dataqueries

I so thought this thread was about Ultimate Mets Daiquiris.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 27 2010 08:10 AM
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The Mets, going into tonight's game, have played 470 doubleheaders.

They've swept 96 of them, and have been swept in 156.

214 of the doubleheaders ended in a conventional split, with the Mets winning the first game 98 times, and taking the nightcap in the other 116.

That leaves four less conventional results, four doubleheaders in which the second game ended in a tie. In those four twinbills, the Mets won the first game once, and lost the opener three times.

(These doubleheaders that included tie games were played on 6/7/64 vs. LA, 5/31,65 vs. the Cubs, 10/2/65 vs. the Phillies, and 9/2/68 against the Braves.)

In the 2000's decade, the Mets had only six sweeps, the last one coming on 6/29/07 in Philadelphia. The previous sweeps were 9/6/06 at home against the Braves and 8/19/04 in Denver. The Mets swept three doubleheaders in 2000, against the Cubs on 4/22, the Expos on 7/27, and the Rockies on 8/15.

The team that the Mets have swept by the most often is the Phillies, with 27 sweeps. The Cardinals are next with 17, then the Giants with 16, and then the Cubs, Expos, Pirates, and Reds with 13.

On the plus side, the Mets have swept the Pirates most frequently, at 14 times. The Cubs and Phillies are next, with 11, then the Braves, Expos, and Colts/Astros with 10.

As for today's opponent, the Mets have only swept the Dodgers once, on August 28, 1971.

Frayed Knot
Apr 27 2010 09:34 AM
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There's a belief that I find fairly common among a number of fans & media that it's harder - for either team - to sweep a DH than it is for one team to take two games that are played on consecutive days.
Mike & Mad Dog were big on this one - often stating it as an uncontested fact - until finally someone got a hold of the stats and showed them that splits and sweeps are statistically virtually exactly where they should be: about a 50/50 deal.

IOW, if you've got about a .500 team over a stretch of years you should expect to sweep approx 25% of the DHs, get swept in about 25%, and split the remaining 50%

Those Met stats above show them sweeping just over 20%, getting swept about 1/3 of the time, and splitting a bit under half.
Not too surprising, especially since this is not a .500 team in their history and that DHs were much more common in the early days of the team when .350-.400 winning pcts were common.

Gwreck
Apr 27 2010 09:39 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
So that's 6-14-10 Sweep/Split/Swept since 2000; and 3-14-9 since 2001? Can the umd check this out? Thanks!


Yes, that's right although I will defer to UMD.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 27 2010 09:46 AM
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Here's what I pulled from the UMDB for the 2000's:

4/22/2000 W W Cubs
7/8/2000 L L Yankees
7/27/2000 W W Expos
8/15/2000 W W Rockies
8/3/2002 L L Diamondbacks
9/3/2002 L W Marlins
9/11/2002 L W Braves
9/27/2002 L L Braves
4/27/2003 L L Diamondbacks
6/5/2003 L L Brewers
6/8/2003 L L Mariners
6/28/2003 L L Yankees
6/27/2004 L L Yankees
8/19/2004 W W Rockies
9/13/2004 W L Braves
9/19/2004 L L Pirates
9/28/2004 W L Braves
6/5/2005 L W Giants
6/3/2006 L W Giants
7/8/2006 L W Marlins
9/6/2006 W W Braves
6/29/2007 W W Phillies
7/28/2007 W L Nationals
5/10/2008 W L Reds
5/20/2008 L L Braves
6/15/2008 L W Rangers
6/27/2008 W L Yankees
9/7/2008 L W Phillies
9/13/2008 L W Braves
7/30/2009 W L Rockies
9/13/2009 L L Phillies

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 08 2010 12:38 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

I found this feature the other day. I put it together last winter, but apparently forgot about it until this week. I intend to add it to the UMDB, but for now I'll sneak preview it here:



Does it appear to be self-explanatory? Or does it make you think, "huh?"

Edgy MD
Dec 08 2010 12:44 PM
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No, a lot of people use abaci.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 08 2010 12:53 PM
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It's like Met chromatography.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 08 2010 01:00 PM
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It does look like an abacus, doesn't it? I was thinking the same thing!

Edgy MD
Dec 08 2010 01:10 PM
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I think the difference between three or four at-bats isn't really very meaningful (or, really, decipherable) to somebody who'd read this chart. I'd propose a two-tone system --- a dark color for starts and a lighter shade for appearances off the bench.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 08 2010 02:10 PM
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I think I like that idea. When I get a chance, I'll give it a try.

metirish
Dec 08 2010 02:13 PM
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Not a frequent year for Maz?

Willets Point
Dec 08 2010 07:42 PM
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I was disappointed to open this thread and see it had nothing to do with rum-based cocktails.

Then I was chagrined to be reminded that I was the one responsible for this thread getting that name.

I suck.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 09 2010 07:54 AM
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Works two ways now:



batmagadanleadoff
Dec 09 2010 07:57 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 09 2010 08:10 AM

Brooks played all of July. Therefore, each bead corresponds to a Met game, rather than a Met game coupled with the game's calendar date. Otherwise, the July All-Star break would create a gap in every player's July. I like it.

You'd need to look at both charts to determine that a particular Met is in solely for defense.

Edgy MD
Dec 09 2010 08:01 AM
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How do you like that one August 1 start for Rusty Staub?

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 09 2010 08:03 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
How do you like that one August 1 start for Rusty Staub?


How can you tell from the chart that it's Aug. 1? It might be, but the Mets first August game might've fallen on the second of the month.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 09 2010 08:06 AM
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Yes, that's true.

Each bead represents a game, strung along from 1 to 162. I then draw the vertical lines through the first game played in each month.

Turns out kind of funky when applied to 1981:

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 09 2010 08:06 AM
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Can you click on a bead to link to the box score for the game represented by that bead? Also, I'd like it if the months were written on the bottom of the charts, as well.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 09 2010 08:09 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Can you click on a bead to link to the box score for the game represented by that bead?


That would be cool! You can't currently do that, but I think it might be possible. If the thought festers in my brain for a while I might give it a shot.

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 09 2010 08:12 AM
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Look at Flynn81. How lucky was Doug Flynn to be traded to the worst team in baseball? Otherwise, he's selling insurance before Jimmy Carter's out.

Edgy MD
Dec 09 2010 08:15 AM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
How do you like that one August 1 start for Rusty Staub?


How can you tell from the chart that it's Aug. 1? It might be, but the Mets first August game might've fallen on the second of the month.

A rational guess.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 09 2010 08:28 AM
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Okay, thanks for the feedback! It's live for the world to see:

http://www.ultimatemets.com/metannual.p ... 10&tabno=C

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 09 2010 08:33 AM
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I feel like I've been invited to a movie premiere!

Shouldn't that chart read Frequency by games played instead of "started"?

G-Fafif
Dec 09 2010 08:35 AM
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Outstanding visualization!

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 09 2010 01:52 PM
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This is something else I've been playing with. A long way from where I want it to go, but it looks pretty good at a glance:

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 09 2010 02:02 PM
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I like it, but authentic filled scorecards would be a billion times cooler.

(wheels turning)

The Great Mets Scorecard Project would be a really cool thing to do.

A Boy Named Seo
Dec 09 2010 02:33 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Okay, thanks for the feedback! It's live for the world to see:

http://www.ultimatemets.com/metannual.p ... 10&tabno=C


that works really well. very nice.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 09 2010 04:04 PM
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Pretty!

A Boy Named Seo
Dec 09 2010 04:29 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I like it, but authentic filled scorecards would be a billion times cooler.

(wheels turning)

The Great Mets Scorecard Project would be a really cool thing to do.


Really dig the scorecard, BG. Also agree that JCL's project would be bigger & crazier & cooler (in a diff way).

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 09 2010 06:32 PM
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I'll continue refining the scorecard as time permits. I'd like to get it to a point where you see the players' progress around the bases. And I want to add the totals at the ends of the rows and the bottoms of the columns, and the pitching lines too.

Edgy MD
Dec 09 2010 07:55 PM
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It's like Charles in Charge said of the little sister of the family. It's beautiful for what it is, and what it's destined to become.

metirish
Dec 10 2010 07:27 AM
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Great work as always Grim , would it be feasible to have information pop up as you move the cursor over the points in the charts?

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 10 2010 07:50 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 10 2010 09:44 AM

I eyeballed these charts quickly and unscientifically, looking for individual seasons that combined the most orange beads with the least amount of white space. I was looking for the most often used Mets that were primarily back-ups.

My quick and dirty (and perhaps, inaccurate) winner is Jeremy Reed, 2009. Reed managed (or was managed) to appear in almost every game in 2009, even though he was almost exclusively, a substitute.
Honorable mentions go to:

Eric Valent, 2004
Lenny Harris, 2001
Chico Walker, 1993
Rusty Staub, 1983
Mike Jorgensen, 1981 & 1982.

And the career achievement award for this category goes to Matt Franco.

I was thinking about what MetIrish wrote about having data appear as you hover over a particular bead. If the charts are to be modified to be able to link to a box score, perhaps some "hover data" might be in order so that the user has control over which specific box score he'd be linking to.

Here's another suggestion: being able to link to the player's main page by clicking on his name.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 10 2010 08:48 AM
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Great ideas, but very difficult to put into place. But as I said earlier, the thought is in my mind, so I may one day decide to take on that challenge.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 11 2010 10:40 AM
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Progress report:

FIRST UPDATE:



SECOND UPDATE:

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 11 2010 08:33 PM
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Here's another suggestion:

From each player's main page, a link to his Mets "career abacus"

Like this Matt Franco, sort of:



but neater, and with the years listed instead of his name (or in addition to his name).

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 12 2010 04:54 AM
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I like that!

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 12 2010 10:41 AM
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And square Red Cross beads to indicate games spent on the disabled list.



And the "career abacus" could be on the player's main page, instead of on a linked page. And the "string" on which the "beads" are strung could end when the player is traded or released. (and begin when he's acquired). The string need not automatically go from game 1 to game "last" in every player season. Frank Cattalanotto's 2010 string would be relatively short. I suppose that a player could then have several broken and distinct strings in the same season, depending on how often he was shuttled between the majors and the minors. This is probably a lot more work for you though, then simply setting up career abaci based on what you already developed and programmed. But I'm good at delegating.


I'll stop now. If I should.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 15 2010 08:41 AM



Weird thing going on with Cedeño's name there.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 15 2010 09:01 AM
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I know everyone has their own scorecard style, but I'm having some trouble with this one.

For example. Strawberry in the 4th: Does 5 /FL indicate he flied out to the third baseman? And Backman in the 19th S/BG? I guess that means single, then, what? Or does the slash indicate a later event?

I would also use the diamond in the middle to indicate the bases advanced, then blacken the thing if/when that runner scores.

I'm also wondering if there's a reason the results are packed into the upper-left quadrants

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 15 2010 09:06 AM
Re: MLB Network Top 20 Games Last 50 Years

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I know everyone has their own scorecard style, but I'm having some trouble with this one.

For example. Strawberry in the 4th: Does 5 /FL indicate he flied out to the third baseman? And Backman in the 19th S/BG? I guess that means single, then, what? Or does the slash indicate a later event?

I would also use the diamond in the middle to indicate the bases advanced, then blacken the thing if/when that runner scores.

I'm also wondering if there's a reason the results are packed into the upper-left quadrants


Still a work in progress. I've been focusing on the overall layout. I'll soon be turning my attention to the things you mentioned: I'll be making the event descriptions less obscure, and I'll be using the central diamond. Stay tuned!

Edgy MD
Dec 15 2010 09:06 AM
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Yeah, I guess improvements are going to come and I'm kinda scared to give feedback because the initiative is so cool and is something I'd love to do if I could make the world go away.

But yeah, my feedback would be to break the box into four or nine quadrants ("nondrants"?) so you can use the diamond to track the progress around the bases gloriously. But I also get that this isn't necessarily generated from the sort of database that can give you all the data you need.

metirish
Dec 15 2010 09:07 AM
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Grim , it that your score card?

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 15 2010 09:13 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
But I also get that this isn't necessarily generated from the sort of data that can give you all the data you need.
Maybe not, but I think I'm going to be able to get surprisingly close.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 15 2010 09:16 AM
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metirish wrote:
Grim , it that your score card?


Yes, in a way. It's been automatically generated by code running on the UMDB server. I can post a scorecard (imperfect as it currently is) for every regular season game from 1962 through 2010. I'm going to refine the look (as mentioned above, it's not yet where I want it to be), get the postseason games in there too, and then make the nearly 8000 scorecards available to the world.

I'm even thinking of making the background color vary; the longer ago that the game was played the more yellowed it would be.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 15 2010 09:20 AM
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Don't for a second think I'm not staggered by how awesome this is. I can barely conceive the possibility.

If you are successful at this, you should sell the technology to MLB.com and go retire on a beach somewhere.

Edgy MD
Dec 15 2010 09:26 AM
Re: MLB Network Top 20 Games Last 50 Years

I went to check on what Backman's S/BG in the 11th was. And just as I clicked I realized, duh, this is Backman. In a tie game in extra innings, of course he's going to come up there and try to bunt his way on.

Single/Bunt Grounder.

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 16 2010 09:57 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Henry Blanco headed to the D'Backs. He and Takahashi now officially in the One-Year Wonders division of Metsdom.


I read your one year wonder piece, which you linked (above) in the ex-Mets thread, and came across this observation you made nine months ago about 2009 OYW Jeremy Reed:

Reed played in 126 games in ’09 but started in only 24 of them, or about 19%. From what I can tell, no Met who has ever played in that many games in a season has been a starter so rarely



That's what I was talking about:

I eyeballed [Grimm's] charts quickly and unscientifically, looking for individual seasons that combined the most orange beads with the least amount of white space. I was looking for the most often used Mets that were primarily back-ups.

My quick and dirty (and perhaps, inaccurate) winner is Jeremy Reed, 2009. Reed managed (or was managed) to appear in almost every game in 2009, even though he was almost exclusively, a substitute.
Honorable mentions go to:


Did you check with any databases before writing that, or were you going by memory? Because those pictures with the beads obviously didn't exist nine months ago.

Edgy MD
Dec 16 2010 11:27 PM
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As we all use different shorthand for scoring, I think it would be cool if this presentation deferred to Bill Shannon's standards.

G-Fafif
Dec 17 2010 05:36 AM
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Henry Blanco headed to the D'Backs. He and Takahashi now officially in the One-Year Wonders division of Metsdom.


I read your one year wonder piece, which you linked (above) in the ex-Mets thread, and came across this observation you made nine months ago about 2009 OYW Jeremy Reed:

Reed played in 126 games in ’09 but started in only 24 of them, or about 19%. From what I can tell, no Met who has ever played in that many games in a season has been a starter so rarely



That's what I was talking about:

I eyeballed [Grimm's] charts quickly and unscientifically, looking for individual seasons that combined the most orange beads with the least amount of white space. I was looking for the most often used Mets that were primarily back-ups.

My quick and dirty (and perhaps, inaccurate) winner is Jeremy Reed, 2009. Reed managed (or was managed) to appear in almost every game in 2009, even though he was almost exclusively, a substitute.
Honorable mentions go to:


Did you check with any databases before writing that, or were you going by memory? Because those pictures with the beads obviously didn't exist nine months ago.


As the '09 season wound down, I noticed Reed among the leaders in the games played category and it struck me as odd since he didn't seem to start very often. So I did a little digging on Baseball Reference considering (seeking out the pinch-hitting and defensive replacement suspects) and came to the aforementioned conclusion.

The beads are/will be a great asset.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 17 2010 06:01 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Edgy DC wrote:
As we all use different shorthand for scoring, I think it would be cool if this presentation deferred to Bill Shannon's standards.



Are those standards available online anywhere?

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 17 2010 12:26 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Latest update:

Edgy MD
Dec 17 2010 12:34 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Hubba Bubba!

soupcan
Dec 17 2010 12:37 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Mitchell didn't pinch hit for Straw right? He was a defensive replacement in the previous inning. Am I misremembering?

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 17 2010 12:49 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

He was a pinch-hitter for the pitcher. I'm not listing the pitchers who never had a plate appearance for the sake of space, but I may reconsider that if it's confusing, and apparently it is. (Maybe I can print them in a smaller font.)

soupcan
Dec 17 2010 12:54 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Maybe you shoud, but now that you say it I see that Mazzilli was the defensive replacement and in fact Mitchell did bat in the 'new' pitcher's spot.

Edgy MD
Dec 17 2010 12:56 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Good catch.

I was taught to not fill the diamond in if the run was unearned. Anybody else use that method?

soupcan
Dec 17 2010 01:01 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Good catch.

I was taught to not fill the diamond in if the run was unearned. Anybody else use that method?


Not me, but I like it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 17 2010 01:15 PM
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I'm going to steal that, I think.

Grimm, this is gorgeous.

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 17 2010 01:32 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

This project might actually persuade me to finally learn how to score a game.

Neat stuff.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 17 2010 06:52 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

soupcan wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Good catch.

I was taught to not fill the diamond in if the run was unearned. Anybody else use that method?


Not me, but I like it.


Wow, blew my mind there.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 21 2010 02:48 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

This game is being discussed in another thread. Among the latest changes: the red text indicating when a new pitcher takes the mound.

Frayed Knot
Dec 21 2010 03:35 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Nothing like hi-lighting LaRussa [u:p5c3z34l]TWICE[/u:p5c3z34l] bringing in new pitchers with two outs and no one on specifically to pitch to Luis Castillo.
The sad part is I bet he thinks the strategy succeeded as Luis only hit singles both times but not the HRs he might have hit from his "power" side had TLR not turned him around.

Edgy MD
Dec 25 2010 07:35 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Love the Christmas makeover and search form.

Question: ever consider including official sideline, pre-game, and post-game reporters in the DB?

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 26 2010 05:48 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

You mean, like Kevin Burkhardt? I hadn't thought about it, but it wouldn't be inappropriate. Does anyone here have access to a complete (or almost complete) list?

Edgy MD
Dec 26 2010 06:06 AM
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Kevin Burkhardt, but also the likes of Howard Cosell!

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 27 2010 12:15 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

If you care to assemble a list, I'll see what I can do to get them in.


In the meantime, here's something you can all take a look at, if you'd like:

http://www.ultimatemets.com/allgames.php

It's all the scorecards from 1962 to 2010 as generated by the UMDB data and the script that I wrote. I'm sure there are some quirks and anomalies. If you'd like to explore, and point out things that don't seem to look right, I'd appreciate it. I may not ever be able to get everything perfect, but I'd like to eliminate anything that's too glaring if I can. At some point before long I'll reveal these scorecards to the world at large. (Not that they can't get to them from here, but you know what I mean.)

Edgy MD
Dec 27 2010 12:29 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

A question about recording advancements. A guy goes from second to third on a teammate's out and it says

FC /

in the upper left quadrant.

But a little bit of context is lost on the event. Is it possible to include the teammate's name in little type, as such?

Maddox
FC


I'll get to work on a list of auxiliary broadcasters.

Edgy MD
Dec 28 2010 10:19 PM
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This is what I've got so far. It's confirmed from a few different sources. Spanish broadcasters are relatively easy, because there's no record of any roles --- pre-game, post-game, etc. But how about Max Perez Jimenez returning to his chair after 17 years off?

I'm working on three more tables: English Radio, English Televison, and English Cable Television.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 05 2011 12:46 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

This is what I've got so far. It's confirmed from a few different sources. Spanish broadcasters are relatively easy, because there's no record of any roles --- pre-game, post-game, etc. But how about Max Perez Jimenez returning to his chair after 17 years off?

I'm working on three more tables: English Radio, English Televison, and English Cable Television.


I've been starting to work on this. (Thanks for putting it together.)

I'm not going to track which stations carried the games; I tried that once and there was all kinds of conflicting information about which radio stations carried the games in which years, and I couldn't tell which sources were the good ones. But I've started breaking the "Broadcaster" category down into multiple sub-categories: Right now I just have Radio and Television, but I'll add Spanish Radio and Spanish Television (have there ever been Spanish TV broadcasts?) I suppose I'll also split TV into Broadcast and Cable, since there have often been separate teams.

I know Howard Cosell was a pre-game host in the very early days, but for most of the Channel 9 days, I don't recall any pre-game or post-game hosts (other than Ralph on Kiner's Korner). When did that return? With the introduction of cable channels, I guess? As for sideline reporters, I was "blacked out" of Mets telecasts from 1998 through 2005, so I don't know much of what came before Kevin Burkhardt. (There was some guy named Chris, I think, who preceded Kevin in 2006, but I can't remember his name.) I don't remember any sideline guys during the SportsChannel days, but as I said, I have no idea who might have been there in those years between SportsChannel and SNY.

Edgy MD
Jan 05 2011 12:51 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

I went with the media guides for broadcast carriers. I feel confident in that. I have no evidence that there were ever Spanish-language TV broadcasts, but it's cool to see that the radio broadcasts went back to year one, and that Max Perez Jimenez returned after 18 or so years.

Some of those broadcasters have had other roles as executives or scouts, sometimes concurrently with their broadcast careers, or were producers at the same time they were broadcasting.

Ceetar
Jan 05 2011 12:58 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

This is what I've got so far. It's confirmed from a few different sources. Spanish broadcasters are relatively easy, because there's no record of any roles --- pre-game, post-game, etc. But how about Max Perez Jimenez returning to his chair after 17 years off?

I'm working on three more tables: English Radio, English Televison, and English Cable Television.


I've been starting to work on this. (Thanks for putting it together.)

I'm not going to track which stations carried the games; I tried that once and there was all kinds of conflicting information about which radio stations carried the games in which years, and I couldn't tell which sources were the good ones. But I've started breaking the "Broadcaster" category down into multiple sub-categories: Right now I just have Radio and Television, but I'll add Spanish Radio and Spanish Television (have there ever been Spanish TV broadcasts?) I suppose I'll also split TV into Broadcast and Cable, since there have often been separate teams.

I know Howard Cosell was a pre-game host in the very early days, but for most of the Channel 9 days, I don't recall any pre-game or post-game hosts (other than Ralph on Kiner's Korner). When did that return? With the introduction of cable channels, I guess? As for sideline reporters, I was "blacked out" of Mets telecasts from 1998 through 2005, so I don't know much of what came before Kevin Burkhardt. (There was some guy named Chris, I think, who preceded Kevin in 2006, but I can't remember his name.) I don't remember any sideline guys during the SportsChannel days, but as I said, I have no idea who might have been there in those years between SportsChannel and SNY.


Chris Cotter i believe. he then went to work in the studio, and now is elsewhere i think.

G-Fafif
Jan 05 2011 01:04 PM
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Matt Loughlin was the primary pre-SNY pregame host, late '90s, early '00s.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 05 2011 01:15 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Ceetar wrote:

Chris Cotter i believe. he then went to work in the studio, and now is elsewhere i think.


That sounds right. I think he left sports and went on to become a business reporter, maybe for the Fox Business Channel?

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 05 2011 01:18 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

G-Fafif wrote:
Matt Loughlin was the primary pre-SNY pregame host, late '90s, early '00s.


I do have Matt Loughlin's name in the UMDB, but I have to admit I had no idea who he is/was. (There are a couple of others who also fit that category... I'll post them here soon.)

I guess we can further categorize these guys as "Studio Hosts" or "Sideline Reporters." (Mets.com lists Bob Ojeda as a "Studio Analyst" and Kevin Burkhardt as a "Field Reporter". I suppose those titles are just as good as the ones I came up with.) That means that I'd have to link similar roles to guys like Matt Yarnoff and Lee Mazzilli.

G-Fafif
Jan 05 2011 01:27 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

SIDELINE: Chris Cotter (2006), Kevin Burkhardt (2007-).

STUDIO: Matt Yallof (2006-2008), Chris Carlin (2009-).

Edgy MD
Jan 05 2011 01:28 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

What I've been doing is dividing it by four categories

Pre-Game Broadcaster
In-Game Broadcaster
Post-Game Broadcaster
Field Reporter

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 05 2011 01:54 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Don't forget the cancer guy. He might have just been a fill-in.

themetfairy
Jan 05 2011 02:43 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Don't forget the cancer guy. He might have just been a fill-in.


Sean Kimmerling? I think he was the WPIX 11 weekend guy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 08 2011 11:16 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

OK.

I think I added 30 or 40 "memories" to the UMD tonight, as part of my purging of old scorecards I kept. I need you to maintain these so I can toss these with confidence.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 10 2011 10:39 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
... as part of my purging of old scorecards ....


The way this is going, one day the wifey is going to get rid of you in the name of more space.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 10 2011 10:42 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Any day now.

Yesterday I threw away about 1,000 pages of my old photocopied writing clips after scanning and PDFing them. Found some coolio stuff while I was at it, including that Sarco thing.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 10 2011 10:53 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Any day now.


Well if she ever hands you your walking papers, maybe you could stay with me for a while. I'd definitely be the Oscar Madison. Here, nothing ever gets thrown out. Especially if it's Mets related. You'd dig that, though, before it wears off.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 10 2011 11:03 AM
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I sense a budding bromance!

Frayed Knot
Jan 10 2011 12:01 PM
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Every time see there's something new in this thread I have to think for a minute because I realize I forgot what the thread is all about.
Then, after I read the new posts, I realize I still don't know what the thread is about.

Valadius
Jan 10 2011 12:19 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Frayed Knot wrote:
Every time see there's something new in this thread I have to think for a minute because I realize I forgot what the thread is all about.
Then, after I read the new posts, I realize I still don't know what the thread is about.

Ditto.

seawolf17
Jan 10 2011 12:24 PM
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It took me three and a half pages to equate "dataqueries" with "daiquiries" too.

themetfairy
Jan 10 2011 12:42 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Frayed Knot wrote:
Every time see there's something new in this thread I have to think for a minute because I realize I forgot what the thread is all about.
Then, after I read the new posts, I realize I still don't know what the thread is about.


Thank G-d I'm not the only one!

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 10 2011 12:44 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

As mentioned in the first message, this is the thread for questions only the UMDB can answer. This last tangent was whether I could safely throw away my old scorecards.

seawolf17
Jan 10 2011 12:49 PM
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A question like "who holds the Mets record for consecutive games," however, is apparently unanswerable by anyone, even a forum full of Mets fans.

Edgy MD
Apr 13 2011 10:10 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Yesterday's most popular lookup: Jason Isringhausen.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 29 2011 07:24 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

I got a kick out of this, from Mark Simon's ESPN article about Eric Hillman:


Hillman, who lives in Denver and turned 45 on Wednesday, is self-deprecating about his career and his height. He noted that the best thing about being 6-foot-10 is being the first to know that someone else is balding. He also jokes that his company's product “is as natural as the tears Mets fans shed every time I pitched.”

But he did go on the message board at the popular fan site “Ultimate Mets Database” when a couple of posters criticized his pitching ability.

Hillman even contacted one who claimed that Hillman ignored him when asked for an autograph, and the two spoke at length on the phone. Hillman wants Mets fans to remember him in a positive manner, like one fan he met at Mets Fantasy Camp a few years ago, who thanked him for bringing him into the Mets' dugout as a little kid.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 29 2011 09:13 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Plus, he left a nice note on Hojo's page:

Eric Hillman
April 23, 2002
I played with Howard briefly for a few years. Briefly because I didn't last very long in NY. Coming into the clubhouse for the 1st time in 92 was pretty intimidating. Willie Randolph, Eddie Murray, Doc etc... Howard was wide eyed and greeted me with an open smile and handshake. He did it with everyone on the team and really tried to make the big leagues a little more relaxing for the new guys. I just saw him a few months ago when we both worked the Mets fantasy camp. He's still in great shape and yet again, still greeted me with an open smile and hand shake. Some guys were born to be Mets!

G-Fafif
May 07 2011 09:52 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Query for BG: When do you expect to add scorecards for 2011 games? I've been linking to them in FAFIF's The Happiest Recap series because they're more fun and tell a more visual story than box scores. The Game 28 THR selection was from 2011 -- the 14-inning "U-S-A!" game (a late switch, obviously) -- so I had to content myself with a box score link for that game.

Just curious. (Like 49 years of designer scorecards aren't enough to satisfy everybody.)

Benjamin Grimm
May 07 2011 10:02 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

The scorecards are generated from the Retrosheet play-by-play data, so I won't have the raw data necessary for the 2011 scorecards until after the season ends.

Sorry!

G-Fafif
May 07 2011 03:45 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Thanks. History will just have to be a little patient.

Benjamin Grimm
May 17 2011 02:45 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Lotsa hits for Bobby Bonilla over the last few days. Gotta be due to the recent attention his long-term payout has been receiving.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 10 2011 06:41 AM
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Holy crap... yesterday there was a seven-way tie.

Ceetar
Jun 10 2011 07:11 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Holy crap... yesterday there was a seven-way tie.


weird collection too.

Dale Thayer needs a picture.

Edgy MD
Jun 13 2011 09:42 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Alejandro Pena came up recently as one of the pitchers Dillon Gee tied at 6-0.

It's also the name of a guy in a celebrated Brazilian human rights case.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 18 2011 12:02 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

I've approved a shitload of fan memories in the last few days. A couple of references to fans being intimidated by the steep angle of the Upper Deck seats at Shea. I remember the same feeling as a kid when I first sat in the Upper Deck, and I'd still get a glimmer of that feeling as an adult, right up to my last visit to Shea in September 2008.

Edgy MD
Aug 18 2011 12:05 PM
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The link takes me to the source code.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 18 2011 12:08 PM
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It should look like an RSS feed. Looks good to me in IE and Firefox.

Edgy MD
Aug 18 2011 12:13 PM
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Chrome bad.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 18 2011 01:04 PM
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Ron Hodges
G. Breen, August 18, 2011
This guy was a bum. I didn't think so until I read Darling's book. Ronnie was a rookie and this consistent .220 hitter that was practially giving away the signs at the plate (ask K. Hernandez), spits tobacco juice on Darling's leg. I used to like him until I did some research. I'm glad he was a career back-up now. Jerry Grote lives!


Anyone read Darling's book?

Edgy MD
Aug 18 2011 01:07 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Read a few chapters of it. Got the part where Hodges spit juice on his leg --- sort of his way of hazing the rookie flush in the pride of his spotless uniform. Didn't get to (or don't recall) anything about his tipping signs.

I had a college rommate named Gerard Breen. Watched the World Series clincher with him.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 18 2011 01:34 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Did he seem like the kind of guy who would research reasons to dislike Ron Hodges?

Edgy MD
Aug 18 2011 01:43 PM
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There was something there.

My dad picked me up and drove me home to Long Island once, and Gerry tagged along for the ride. Dad was a beat cop and picked up a lot of New York history along the way, and was occasionally prone to historic factoids. We passed the location of the hospital where Typhoid Mary spent the last decades of her life in quarantine, and dad told us Typhoid Mary's story.

Jerry gave a shrug and said "Hmmm, we should have just given her all the money in the bank and put her on a plane to Russia."

Willets Point
Aug 19 2011 09:02 AM
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"Hey Rook! You think you look like hot stuff in your new uniform? Come over here a minute, I want to show you something."

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhcckk-PTOOO!!![/bigpurple]

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 19 2011 09:05 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Classic

Willets Point
Aug 19 2011 09:11 AM
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I like the old Sheffield Ron Hodges photo better but it seems to have been expunged from the internet.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 19 2011 09:15 AM
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I must have a copy somewhere.

seawolf17
Aug 19 2011 09:19 AM
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I don't remember which of you used that as an avatar pic at the CPF II (Edgy? Lunch?), but whoever it was, it took me about a year and a half to figure out that wasn't you.

Edgy MD
Aug 19 2011 09:21 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Isn't declaring that somebody "...lives!" what you do when somebody dies, or in the case of Frodo, when they're fictional? Because Jerry Grote, last I checked, actually does live.

(And I half think that Hodges learned that tobacco-spit thing from Grote.)

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 31 2011 02:36 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Another fresh batch of memories posted today.

Ceetar
Aug 31 2011 02:40 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Another fresh batch of memories posted today.


Including a non-positive one on Seaver. blegh.

I still don't understand what the "Rum-based Cocktails" is in reference to. I feel like I'm missing something, and want a daquiri.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 31 2011 02:44 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

I think the original title of this thread was "Ultimate Mets Dataqueries" which sounds like daiquiris...

Ceetar
Aug 31 2011 02:45 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I think the original title of this thread was "Ultimate Mets Dataqueries" which sounds like daiquiris...


That does make more sense. It's like a game of telephone that I missed the beginning of.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 19 2011 12:27 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

More memories posted today.

I had been kind of neglecting them for a while so there's a bunch there.

Ceetar
Oct 19 2011 12:30 PM
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April 26, 2008 at Shea Stadium
SHALPIN, October 19, 2011
YAY! Gustavo Molina makes his Mets debut!


some good ones.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 23 2012 11:34 AM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

More UMDB memories posted today.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 13 2012 02:36 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

More UMDB memories posted today.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 24 2012 03:46 PM
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I've posted a lot of stuff in the last week or so.

This one, from today, amused me.

Lance Johnson
Queens native, April 24, 2012
Two quick memories related to Lance Johnson.

First, he autographed a baseball for my friend Adam. He addressed it, "To Atom."

Second, I was among a group of lucky kids who had the chance to participate in a clinic in the outfield at Shea Stadium with Bobby Jones. At one point, Jones kicked at the centerfield turf as if he were digging in on a pitching rubber. After kicking loose a small divot, he said, "Lance is going to kill me."


I love the first one!

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 06 2012 03:00 PM
Re: Ultimate Mets Rum-Based Cocktails

A bunch of UMDB memories were posted today.