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TheOldMole
Jan 10 2011 02:08 PM

OK, Chris Capuano may be a Duke graduate, but if the Mets do land Chris Young, he'll be their 4th pitcher with Ivy League credentials. As it is, they have three -- Ken MacKenzie, Ron Darling, Mike Remlinger. Is this a record?

What would be the record for franchise with the most Ivy League players in its history?

Valadius
Jan 10 2011 02:17 PM
Re: Get Smart

I would venture to guess that non-expansion teams have had far more Ivy Leaguers as a function of both being around longer and the Ivies attracting better athletes in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. See Gehrig, Lou.

G-Fafif
Jan 10 2011 02:23 PM
Re: Get Smart

Jeff Musselman went to Harvard. Ironically, trading Mookie Wilson to get him was far from brilliant.

Edgy DC
Jan 10 2011 02:24 PM
Re: Get Smart

I'm sure there's been more than that.... checking:

Brown:
Bill Almon

Columbia:
Frank Seminara

Cornell:

Dartmouth:
Mark Johnson
Mike Remlinger

Hahvid:
Jeff Musselman
Sandy Alderson (Law School)

Princeton:

UPenn:
Grover Powell

Yale:
Ron Darling
George Herbert Walker, Jr.

G-Fafif
Jan 10 2011 02:28 PM
Re: Get Smart

BTW, I was hoping this was a thread about shoe phones.

bmfc1
Jan 10 2011 03:47 PM
Re: Get Smart

The Indians have a pitcher that played for the Harvard Crimson:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Herrmann

The Pirates have a pitcher that played for the Princeton Tigers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ohlendorf.

Gwreck
Jan 10 2011 04:54 PM
Re: Get Smart

Ken MacKenzie, an original Met, also attended Yale.

RealityChuck
Jan 11 2011 08:58 AM
Re: Get Smart

Moe Berg -- Columbia
Eddie Collins -- Columbia
Barry Larkin -- Columbia
Additional players from Columbia

Red Rolfe -- Dartmouth

Edgy DC
Jan 11 2011 09:09 AM
Re: Get Smart

Hey, whoah... non-Mets.

attgig
Jan 11 2011 09:10 AM
Re: Get Smart

interesting at how many more baseball players there are that went to the ivy's.

there was a story earlier this year about the harvard grad jeremy lin in the nba. It was something like if he played 30 more games, he would have the most nba experience of any harvard grad.
and then, they listed out all ivy league players by school ever in the nba, and i don't think any of the schools had more than 10 guys.

themetfairy
Jan 11 2011 09:19 AM
Re: Get Smart

RealityChuck wrote:
Moe Berg -- Columbia
Eddie Collins -- Columbia
Barry Larkin -- Columbia
Additional players from Columbia

Red Rolfe -- Dartmouth


Actually, this is the Columbia list.

That's Gene Larkin - not Barry (I was thinking that I would have heard of it if Barry Larkin had gone to Columbia).

Chad Ochoseis
Jan 11 2011 09:30 AM
Re: Get Smart

EdgyDC wrote:
Hey, whoah... non-Mets.



Moe Berg deserves some sort of honorary status. I read somewhere that his last words were "How did the Mets do today?"

attgig
Jan 11 2011 09:38 AM
Re: Get Smart

Moe Berg -- Columbia
Eddie Collins -- Columbia
Barry Larkin -- Columbia
Additional players from Columbia

Red Rolfe -- Dartmouth


Actually, this is the Columbia list.

That's Gene Larkin - not Barry (I was thinking that I would have heard of it if Barry Larkin had gone to Columbia).



nice.

so, there's cornell, columbia,
harvard: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/college ... yers.shtml
penn: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/college ... yers.shtml
dartmouth: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/college ... yers.shtml
brown: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/college ... yers.shtml
princeton: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/college ... yers.shtml
yale: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/college ... yers.shtml

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 11 2011 11:08 AM
Re: Get Smart

I count 7 "currently" rostered (as of closing time, 2010):

C Brad Ausmus (Dodgers, now FA)
RP Craig Breslow (A's)
UT Mark DeRosa (Giants)
SP Ross Ohlendorf (Pirates)
OF Fernando Perez (Rays, now Cubs)
OF Will Venable (Padres)
SP Chris Young (Padres, now FA)

TheOldMole
Jan 11 2011 01:59 PM
Re: Get Smart

So tossing in Grover Powell, there's a real good chance the Mets have the franchise record for most Ivy League pitchers.

Edgy DC
Jan 22 2011 09:54 PM
Re: Get Smart

The Daily Princetonian hints at an internal rivalry on the Mets.

TheOldMole
Jan 22 2011 11:30 PM
Re: Get Smart

Douchiest?

Edgy DC
Jan 23 2011 05:24 AM
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Apparently, Gentleman's Quarterly isn't always gentlemanly in their assessments.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 23 2011 07:41 AM
Re: Get Smart

The Princetonians in my past and present ambit do seem... of a sort. (I can't quite say that about the Dukies.)

But, then, I tend to find my fellow Not Penn State alums kinda... difficult. So maybe I'm the vinegary one.

TheOldMole
Jan 23 2011 08:15 AM
Re: Get Smart

As Jude Law says in The Talented Mr. Ripley, Princetonians are the cream...rich and thick.

Ashie62
Jan 23 2011 10:03 AM
Re: Get Smart

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
I count 7 "currently" rostered (as of closing time, 2010):

C Brad Ausmus (Dodgers, now FA)
RP Craig Breslow (A's)
UT Mark DeRosa (Giants)
SP Ross Ohlendorf (Pirates)
OF Fernando Perez (Rays, now Cubs)
OF Will Venable (Padres)
SP Chris Young (Padres, now FA)


and they all suck.

Frayed Knot
Jan 23 2011 11:08 AM
Re: Get Smart

Ashie62 wrote:
I count 7 "currently" rostered (as of closing time, 2010):

C Brad Ausmus (Dodgers, now FA)
RP Craig Breslow (A's)
UT Mark DeRosa (Giants)
SP Ross Ohlendorf (Pirates)
OF Fernando Perez (Rays, now Cubs)
OF Will Venable (Padres)
SP Chris Young (Padres, now FA)


and they all suck.



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