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Edgy DC
Jan 13 2011 11:26 AM

Because some guys don't have interesting non-baseball lives, some guys do, and then there's Bobby.



Pavia names Bobby Valentine as Stamford public safety director
Kate King, Staff Writer
Published: 11:51 a.m., Thursday, January 13, 2011


STAMFORD -- Mayor Michael Pavia announced Thursday morning that he has appointed former New York Mets manager Bobby Valentine to his cabinet as the city's director of public health and safety.

Valentine, a lifelong Stamford resident, will begin immediately in his new role and will earn $10,000 annually, a salary that he said he plans to give back to the community.


"I'm going to give this my best effort," Valentine said during a press conference with Pavia at Government Center Thursday. "The thought of trying to do good in a very public way is a very exciting challenge in my life."

Pavia cited Valentine's management and leadership skills as a local business owner and international baseball manager as his reasons for selecting him to head Stamford's public safety department. He also pointed to Valentine's work over the past six months as chairman of the mayor's task force to reorganize the city's fire department as an indication that the job was a good fit.

He knows the operation of fire service as well as anybody in Stamford, Pavia said. What that shows me is his commitment to what has to be done.

Valentine said his main function as director of public health and safety will be to improve communication between the mayor and the city's police, fire, emergency medical services and health departments.



"I'm going to be learning on a daily basis, all of the things that my job will entail," Valentine said. "(The departments) run, as I said, extremely well in the city and the mayor, I think, that I'm going to try to help coordinate the flow of information both ways, from him to them, and from the different services to the mayors office."

Valentine said he plans to donate his $10,000 annual salary to community services in Stamford. He cited the Mickey Lione Jr. fund and Stamford's Citizen of the Year scholarship as entities he would be interested in supporting.

"This is a non-salary position," Valentine said. "To receive is wonderful, to give is divine, I guess."



Valentine said his full-time job as a baseball analyst for ESPN would not interfere with his ability to serve as Stamford's health and public safety director. He said his work for ESPN will mainly consume night and weekend hours, leaving the days free to oversee Stamford's health and safety departments.

"I get up early, I go to bed late," he said. "There's plenty of hours in the day that I get to do the things that I need to do."

In early December, ESPN announced that the former New York Mets manager would serve as an analyst for its Sunday Night Baseball broadcasts as part of a three-man booth that will include Dan Shulman and former pitcher Orel Hershiser. The job will take him to ballparks across the country during baseball season.

Valentine is a longtime Stamford resident and prominent member of the community. His sports restaurant, Bobby Valentine's Sports Gallery Cafe, was an important component of the revitalization of downtown Stamford when it opened in Columbus Park in 1980. In 2007, Valentine launched the popular Bobby Valentines Sports Academy on Camp Avenue. Last Friday, Valentine was recognized as Stamford's Citizen of the Year in an early morning ceremony at Government Center.

Valentine has been involved with city government since last winter, when Pavia tapped him to head a task force charged with advising the mayor on a restructuring of the city's fire departments. Tension has existed for years between the city's paid and volunteer departments, and Valentine was not immune to the drama. In September, he lashed out at the local professional firefighter's union during a meeting of the Board of Representatives Public Health and Safety Committee.

"When I entered the room tonight, I had two union members treat me in a way that no one ever treats me," Valentine said at the end of the meeting. "I'm saying this publicly because the next time somebody says something, I might end up in front of a judge.

The public safety director job is a cabinet-level position that typically pays between $118,000 and $138,000. Pavia eliminated funding for the job and appointed himself to the vacant position shortly after taking office a year ago as a cost-saving measure. The move saved the city $122,000, but changes in the city's health department freed up enough money to pay a public safety director's salary for the first six months of 2011, which is the second half of the fiscal year. The city had been searching for a new director for several months. The position's full salary will have to be added to next year's budget.

The last public safety director appointment was a source of controversy in city government. Republican officials questioned former Mayor Dannel Malloy's decision to pay William Callion, whom he nominated for the position in September 2003, $11,000 more than his predecessor, Ben Barnes.

Callion's starting salary was $96,000 a year. He served as director of public safety in Stamford through the rest of Malloy's time in office. In 2008, the Board of Finance approved an 11 percent pay hike for Callion, raising his annual salary to $119,244.

Prior to his appointment to the mayoral cabinet, Callion had worked as a fire commissioner and served as chairman of the Board of Finance's Public Safety, Health and Welfare Committee. He also worked at IBM for 34 years.

The city Charter requires Stamford to have a director of public safety, health and welfare, who is responsible for the supervision of police, fire, health, social services, paramedics and emergency management.

Staff Writer Kate King can be reached at kate.king@scni.com or (203) 964-2263.



Read more: http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/default ... z1AwOzeulN

Willets Point
Jan 13 2011 12:01 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

His first duty is to clean up the streets of Yankees fans.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 13 2011 12:10 PM
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The service aspect is great and all, but this...

He said his work for ESPN will mainly consume night and weekend hours, leaving the days free to oversee Stamford's health and safety departments.


... comes off as a little naive, and kind of trivializing toward those among us-- ahem-- who work in emergency-management-y fields.

Ceetar
Jan 13 2011 12:15 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
The service aspect is great and all, but this...

He said his work for ESPN will mainly consume night and weekend hours, leaving the days free to oversee Stamford's health and safety departments.


... comes off as a little naive, and kind of trivializing toward those among us-- ahem-- who work in emergency-management-y fields.


He fails to mention sleeping as well.

But I imagine the job is more a political/desk job than anything else, not quite an emergency response sorta thing.

Edgy DC
Jan 13 2011 12:18 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

I imagine his role will be morale booster first and advisor second. Though "director" certainly implies he'd be in the chain of command, and I expect him to be out there getting his hands dirty, I would expect the mayor would sign off on any policy changes he thinks are necessary.

It may say "director," but I'm guessing "special advisor to the GM" is more accurate.

G-Fafif
Jan 13 2011 12:59 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
The service aspect is great and all, but this...

He said his work for ESPN will mainly consume night and weekend hours, leaving the days free to oversee Stamford's health and safety departments.


... comes off as a little naive, and kind of trivializing toward those among us-- ahem-- who work in emergency-management-y fields.


Are you implying Bobby Valentine is less than superhuman?

Edgy DC
Jan 26 2011 11:05 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

Bobby, slinging whiskey for charity in Connecticut.

Edgy DC
Jan 27 2011 10:50 AM
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It's like the Terminator approach to good citizenship. He can't. Be. Stopped

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 27 2011 11:24 AM
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Meanwhile, Mustached Bobby was across town, drunkenly punching a nun.


Lovely avatar change to go with.

G-Fafif
Jan 27 2011 11:50 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

The headline implies he was once a Met star and the copy refers to him as a baseball legend. Works for me.

Why doesn't Connecticut just make it official and rename itself Bobby V's?

seawolf17
Jan 27 2011 12:19 PM
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I think my greatest baseball-related fear is Bobby Valentine associating himself with either the Yankees or the Phillies. He's a legend to me.

metirish
Jan 27 2011 12:49 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
I think my greatest baseball-related fear is Bobby Valentine associating himself with either the Yankees or the Phillies. He's a legend to me.



Yep, Bobby at it since 3am is so him, to have half his energy.

themetfairy
Jan 27 2011 12:57 PM
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Every time I see this thread I think of this song from Chicago (except that I think We Want Bobby, and I think of the real version and not this edited one).

Edgy DC
Jan 27 2011 01:47 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
I think my greatest baseball-related fear is Bobby Valentine associating himself with either the Yankees or the Phillies. He's a legend to me.

Actually, I'm reading that Senator Lieberman has announced his intention to retire as the end of this Congress, and I'm thinking...

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 27 2011 01:50 PM
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...that he might associate himself with the Senators!

Edgy DC
Jan 27 2011 01:57 PM
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I'm thinking of starting a "Draft Bobby" page at Facebook?

Connecticut would get to go from a Loverman to a Valentine.

Willets Point
Jan 27 2011 02:27 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

Edgy DC wrote:
It's like the Terminator approach to good citizenship. He can't. Be. Stopped


Mini-celebrity? And only halfway through the report someone finally realizes that Valentine works for the city.

Edgy DC
Feb 12 2011 09:56 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

Bobby on Ricky and more:

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seawolf17
Feb 22 2011 08:35 AM
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Okay, Murray. Now you've gone too far.

Edgy DC
Feb 22 2011 08:44 AM
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Whoah. Old guy flame war.

G-Fafif
Feb 28 2011 07:11 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

Bobby Valentine: Prospective partial Mets owner.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 28 2011 08:23 AM
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Bobby Valentine: Prospective partial Mets owner.


OMG

TransMonk
Feb 28 2011 08:26 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

Interesting, fo' sho'.

Frayed Knot
Feb 28 2011 08:53 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

Talk about your hands-on ownership!!

Willets Point
Feb 28 2011 09:24 AM
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He could easily be a silent partner by wearing glasses and a fake mustache.

Edgy DC
Feb 28 2011 09:34 AM
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It sadly doesn't look like much at this point.

Edgy DC
Mar 02 2011 07:38 AM
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If you want something done, ask a busy person.

Edgy DC
Mar 08 2011 09:02 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011


Bobby Valentine confirmed as public safety director, announces he is starting production company
Staff Reports
Updated 01:27 p.m., Tuesday, March 8, 2011


A day after being confirmed by the Stamford Board of Representatives as the city's new director of public safety, health and welfare, Bobby Valentine announced that he has started a sports-themed film production company.

Valentine -- the former manager of the New York Mets -- will partner with 25-year-old producer Andrew Moscato to form Makuhari Media, which will focus on sports-themed documentaries. Moscato produced the 2008 ESPN documentary "The Zen of Bobby V," which chronicled Valentine's time as a manager in Japanese baseball.

"To have this opportunity to create sports documentaries by teaming with Andrew Muscato is one of the most exciting and fulfilling ventures of my lifetime," said Valentine in a statement. (Ed: by "lifetime," he means "week.")

The company is already slated to begin work producing three documentary features. The first film is tentatively titled "Pelotero," and will follow two young baseball prospects from the Dominican Republic as they try to secure a dream of playing professional baseball. A second film features a chess tournament between the Princeton University Chess Club and prison inmates serving life sentences. The final in-production film is about the life of former Brooklyn Dodgers pitcher Ralph Branca.

Monday night Valentine's move to replace Mayor Michael Pavia as the city's public safety director as approved by the full Board of Representatives in a vote of 30-0-7.

Last week Valentine was unanimously approved for the position by the board's appointments committee. At that meeting, Valentine said that he will not be in the city on Sunday, Monday or Tuesday, when he will be working for ESPN in Bristol as an analyst on "Baseball Tonight" or as co-host on "Sunday Night Baseball."

Valentine, a hometown celebrity and business owner who led the Mets to a World Series berth in 2000, was named the city's public safety director in a surprise move by Pavia in January. The director oversees the fire, police and health departments in Stamford and is responsible for managing an $100 million budget during a tight upcoming budget cycle.

Valentine took the cabinet-level position for a $10,000 annual salary, an amount he will donate to charity. After Pavia took office last year, he assumed the public safety director position in order to save the city $122,000, the position's salary, and avert two layoffs. The Valentine appointment caused concerns among some city lawmakers and police union officials over his lack of experience in budget management and public administration.

Read more: http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/ar ... z1G4UKqqlC

Edgy DC
Mar 17 2011 09:57 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

Former Mets and Chiba Lotte manager Bobby Valentine is helping friends in Japan
By The Associated Press (CP) – 2 hours ago


NEW YORK, N.Y. — Bobby Valentine has been working on little sleep since Japan was devastated by an earthquake and tsunami last week, devoting much of his time to tracking down friends and former players and figuring out a way to help from thousands of miles away.

"I'm feeling hopeless, helpless," Valentine told The Associated Press in a phone interview Thursday from his office in Stamford, Conn. "What I do have is a pretty good circle of friends who I reached out to. I think I'll be able to contribute."

The ESPN baseball analyst was manager of the Chiba Lotte Mariners in 1995 and from 2004-09, leading them to a championship on 2005, and his ties to Japan are strong. Once Valentine began seeing images of the aftermath of the 9.0-magnitude quake that hit northern Japan last Friday, he began texting, emailing and calling for updates.

Valentine has spoken to Chiba Lotte team executives, friends with the Rakuten Golden Eagles in the heavily hit city Sendai and employees at a school he helped found seven years ago.

"The country is shaken, they're living in a very uncomfortable state," Valentine said.

The one friend he hasn't been able to reach firsthand is Mets scout Esao O'Jimi, who was Valentine's first interpreter in Japan. Mets spokesman Jay Horwitz said O'Jimi is OK.

Seeing YouTube videos of water rushing through the streets where he rode his bicycle every day, of the rising tides flooding the ballpark where his Marines played their home games, he knew he had to act.

So Valentine, the director of public health and safety for Stamford, began calling his friends in the financial industry and started reaching out to baseball people to set up a relief fund. He hopes to start a website where fans can buy memorabilia and make donations.

He's going to meet with the Japan Society and with charities such as Save the Children and the Japanese Red Cross to find a partner that will act quickly.

"I hope the charities of choice are ones that are recognized by many and can use the funds expediently," he said.

He's even trying to convince the board of directors of the Mickey Leone Fund, a local charity he is involved with, to donate the funds raised from a June 18 gala to the relief effort in Japan.

It's not the first time Valentine has raced to help out in a disaster. After the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Valentine, then the manager of the New York Mets, stepped to the forefront, helping organize the staging area in the Shea Stadium parking lot for the relief effort.

Then he could get his hands dirty, getting involved that way. Far away from Chiba, which he says was built on the landfill of World War II and could be in jeopardy because of all the flooding, he's taking a different approach.

"I feel just as helpless as I did then," Valentine said, "and I hope I can do something."

Centerfield
Mar 18 2011 07:35 AM
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Bobby Valentine is awesome.

Frayed Knot
Mar 18 2011 07:50 AM
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Meanwhile, Japanese spring training has been interrupted and the season openers pushed back.
Don't think a specific starting date has been determined yet.

Willets Point
Mar 18 2011 08:24 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Meanwhile, Japanese spring training has been interrupted and the season openers pushed back.
Don't think a specific starting date has been determined yet.


I can't imagine that that the Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles based in Sendai are going to be able to play any home games any time soon.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 18 2011 08:27 AM
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My friend in Chiba has evacuated for Kyoto. Says aftershocks are "unsettling," grocery stores empty.

Edgy DC
Mar 22 2011 07:51 AM
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The Tokyo Apache basketballers have cancelled the remainder of thier season, but...

Instead, the Tokyo Apache organization and staff will join forces with Evolution Capital Management and owner Michael Lerch in funding relief projects and organizations. The combined group, which will also include former NBA star and former Tokyo Apache head coach Joe Bryant as well as baseball legend Bobby Valentine, will contribute over 1 million US dollars to such projects and, as the situation stabilizes, aim to participate in programs that will help the people that have been devastated by this disaster.

The Second Spitter
Mar 22 2011 08:56 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

The Apache play in Sydney Kings colors (which also happens to be Lakers colors!) - they have a pretty spiffy-looking logo.

I wonder why he chose that particular charity?

G-Fafif
Mar 31 2011 06:05 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

Bobby commences to expunging the ghost of Joe Morgan on ESPN tonight, doing World Champion Giants at Don Mattingly's Dodgers.

As a broadcaster, I mean.

TransMonk
Apr 01 2011 08:32 AM
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I caught a couple innings of the Dodger game last night. I thought the Shulman/Hershiser/Valentine team was pretty decent. WAY better than Miller and Morgan.

soupcan
Apr 01 2011 08:38 AM
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March 30, 2011
Take Dip Out of the Ballgame

By BOBBY VALENTINE
Stamford, Conn.

EVERYONE who’s ever been around the game of baseball, whether as a player, manager, youth coach or dedicated fan, knows the feeling of anticipation that comes with opening day. That sense of hope and excitement that we feel today is one of baseball’s great gifts, and we should no longer allow it to be diminished by a blot on our sport: the use of smokeless tobacco at Major League Baseball games.

Everyone in baseball knows someone who chews — it’s estimated that a third of players use some form of smokeless tobacco. Even I chewed during games when I was really bored. For many of us, it is simply part of the sport. It wasn’t until I had chewed for years that I realized what a bad example I was setting and quit.

I also gave it up for my health: smokeless tobacco causes oral cancer, mouth lesions, gum disease and tooth decay; it has been linked to heart attacks and pancreatic cancer. Smokeless tobacco use by young people may also encourage them to try cigarette smoking, the nation’s leading cause of preventable deaths.

Quitting for me was easy, and so far my tobacco use doesn’t seem to have affected my health. Others haven’t been so lucky. Last fall, Tony Gwynn, a Hall of Famer who is now the coach at San Diego State University, announced he had parotid cancer, which he suspects was caused by years of chewing tobacco. Bruce Bochy, who managed the San Francisco Giants to a World Series title, has talked extensively about his own difficulty in quitting.

So has Stephen Strasburg, the phenomenal young pitcher for the Washington Nationals who played for Gwynn in college and is now trying to quit tobacco, a struggle even though he is recovering from surgery and thus away from the familiar rhythms of baseball that make it so easy for players to start chewing.

Major League Baseball has taken steps to discourage chewing tobacco, like providing medical advice and educational programs, but Strasburg and other players who continue to use tobacco are proof that these have failed. The pressure is too great: though tobacco was banned in the minors in 1993 and by most colleges as well, Strasburg has said that he started using it as a young player to imitate big leaguers.

Indeed, chewing tobacco isn’t just part of the culture of baseball; it’s part of the allure. Young players look up to star players and copy them — the stance, the swing, the way they adjust their caps. Unfortunately, they also copy the bulge in the lip and the outline of tobacco cans in the uniform pocket.

Nor is that allure limited to aspiring ballplayers. Smokeless tobacco use among high school boys has climbed 36 percent since 2003. The tobacco industry is spending record sums to market smokeless products, and is promoting them as a substitute for cigarettes. Major League players who chew tobacco on the field are, in effect, providing free advertising for these efforts.

In response, several other sports organizations, including the National Hockey League and the N.C.A.A., have banned tobacco chewing by players and coaches. But Major League Baseball has not, even though it has banned smoking tobacco during games.

This has to change. As they negotiate the 2012 contract, Major League Baseball and the players should include a comprehensive ban on the use of tobacco products during games.

True, some players say tobacco use is nobody’s business — that tobacco is legal, that they are adults and that chewing tobacco is a personal choice. But they are public figures and need to recognize the added responsibility that the limelight brings. And they would still be free to use tobacco on their own time, just not while playing baseball.

Major League Baseball has the opportunity to protect today’s players and provide positive role models to the millions of kids who want so much to be like their heroes. All it has to do is get tobacco out of the ballpark.

Bobby Valentine, a former manager of the New York Mets, is an analyst for ESPN and the director of public safety, health and welfare in Stamford, Conn.

Edgy DC
Apr 01 2011 08:45 AM
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I never quite got how nobody rips their ass open sliding with tobacco cans in their pockets.

The answer is as easy as adding mandatory earflaps to helmets. Allow current users a grandfather clause and ban everybody else from using. Then this will be a strange and ugly memory in ten years.

G-Fafif
Apr 01 2011 02:11 PM
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Bobby & Friends airlifted to Arlington to call Rangers-Red Sox. Probably dropped by the Texas dugout to make out the lineup for old time's sake.

MFS62
Apr 07 2011 07:26 AM
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If you want to have breakfast with Bobby...
http://www.ctpost.com/baseball/article/ ... 324485.php

Later

Valadius
Apr 13 2011 09:34 AM
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Um... what? Bobby V's weird analysis of Josh Hamilton's arm injury:

Karl Ravech: What was stupid about the play?

Bobby Valentine: Well, it was the first inning and it was taking a chance with your best player and he did dive headfirst and it was a way of avoiding the slide and he knew that he shouldn't go and he did go, you know? And you know, there's indiscretion in this guy's life, he was stupid earlier and because of that, he can't take drugs now to help cure this injury and heal this injury. And that might have been dumb on everyone's part because, my gosh, it's the first inning, he's the MVP. They're scoring runs better than anybody in the league, you have to tag up on a fly ball in front of the dugout?

Gwreck
Apr 13 2011 09:36 AM
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I'm not sure what drugs exist that would
a. Help heal a fractured humerus; and
b. Would somehow be off-limits to Hamilton due to his addictions.

Edgy DC
Apr 13 2011 09:40 AM
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He's referring to prescription pain killers, I gather.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 13 2011 09:42 AM
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Bobby Vee was referring to Hamilton's own remarks about the play: He said the coach told him to go but he was unsure about it, and kinda went in in that halfway committed frame of mind and hurt himself. Kinda douchy to blame the coach publicly, but 3rd base coaching is not for the thin-skinned.

I dunno what BV knows about Hamilton's drug use, what is or isn't ok for him to be using, but I suppose its a concern with him.

metirish
Apr 13 2011 09:43 AM
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Sherman goes to bat for our Bobby


Buck’s success in Baltimore proves Bobby V deserves a shot, too



Buck Showalter has the Orioles playing hard and well and — most important after so many years as props for the AL East beasts to clobber — Baltimore suddenly is a franchise with a future.
This is good for Bobby Valentine.

Why? Well, you know how there are 30 Opening Day starters, but not 30 aces? The same goes for major league managers. Thirty men have the title. But there are not 30 men capable of truly doing the job.
And two of those who can definitely do it sat on an ESPN set last year until late July, when the Orioles split up Showalter and Valentine.

Full disclosure: I covered both Showalter and Valentine, and feel like I learned more about the sport from those two than any other 20 baseball men combined. But even with that gratitude, I understand why Showalter had to wait 3 1/2 years between major league managing stints Nos. 3 and 4, and why Valentine is still working at ESPN.

Neither enters a room thinking someone there knows more about baseball than him. But here is the thing: They almost always are right. That does not play well in a thin-skinned atmosphere, especially since Showalter and Valentine do not mask antipathy for fools. When they think something is wrong, Showalter and Valentine are not patient — though a friend of Showalter insists, “Buck bites his tongue a lot more than he used to.”

But even if Showalter and Valentine can be a handful for a front office, here is the best advice for those front offices: Get over it. The manager’s job is to maximize the skill of a roster, not to make the GM or farm director feel good about his insights or to have a whole organization sing Kumbaya in unison. A managerial job should not go to someone whose turn it is or who will docilely accept the dictates of the front office, even if inane.

Again, there probably are not 30 people who possess the leadership skills, strategic chops, gravitas, communication talents and work ethic to truly manage in the majors. The Orioles finally hired someone who does, and Baltimore arrived at the Stadium yesterday, for a series opener that was rained out, with the AL’s best record (40-26) since Showalter’s takeover. That performance should inspire an enlightened front office to overcome concerns and hire Valentine, because he should be one of the 30.

“I don’t think [Showalter’s success] has anything to do with anything,” Valentine said, about his chance to get another job. “But who knows? But there is too much stuff out there that anyone can manage. But when you see the difference, you see the difference.”

In other words, if you hire Art Howe or Stump Merrill, you get what you hired. But what do you get when you employ Showalter?

“You get a manager,” Valentine said simply. “This is what he does. He plays a little golf and he’s a baseball manager. This is what fills his life.”

Showalter’s advanced baseball mind is never in sleeper mode. He will manage a game hundreds of times in his head before actually managing it. He will look at every member of the organization, every piece of equipment and think about how it can be made better. No game will begin where the other manager is more prepared or has outworked Showalter.

Alex Rodriguez called Showalter “a managing master,” despite their relationship in Texas souring in their year together, 2003. Still, A-Rod remembers playing golf with Showalter in November 2002 not long after he was hired, “and I realized by the fourth hole that he knew every player on every 40-man roster and their strengths and weaknesses. He lives this 24-7. He’s good at everything a manager does. He is a genius at managing a game, and also at being an architect of a 25-man roster.”

Also at being a sheriff who cleans up the unacceptable; which is one huge reason the Yanks and Diamondbacks won World Series the year after he left: Showalter had done a lot of the heavy lifting for Joe Torre and Bob Brenly, respectively.

Now he does more heavy lifting for an organization whose recent AL East chances have generally been kaput by this time of year. Instead a real baseball manager makes demands and gets results.

“I have asked my team, ‘What are you willing to do to get from where we are to where you want to be?’ ” Showalter said. “’What will you sweat to do that others won’t? What are you willing to do to make [baseball] relevant in Baltimore again?’ ”

The Orioles were willing to hire a real baseball manager.
joel.sherman@nypost.com


Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/ ... z1JQ04uDf5

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 13 2011 10:37 AM
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Um... what? Bobby V's weird analysis of Josh Hamilton's arm injury:

Karl Ravech: What was stupid about the play?

Bobby Valentine: Well, it was the first inning and it was taking a chance with your best player and he did dive headfirst and it was a way of avoiding the slide and he knew that he shouldn't go and he did go, you know? And you know, there's indiscretion in this guy's life, he was stupid earlier and because of that, he can't take drugs now to help cure this injury and heal this injury. And that might have been dumb on everyone's part because, my gosh, it's the first inning, he's the MVP. They're scoring runs better than anybody in the league, you have to tag up on a fly ball in front of the dugout?


If this weren't Bobby V, we'd be a little more knives-out about the drug-use-affect speculation, I suspect.

Frayed Knot
Apr 13 2011 11:20 AM
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Yeah, there are probably pain killers that couldn't/shouldn't be used when dealing with a drug addict.
My reading of this is that Bobby also is referencing the idleness of down-time due to the injury being a potentially bad situation for Hamilton. It was this exact kind of exile from day to day playing that first led him down that road.

Gwreck
Apr 13 2011 11:49 AM
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I have no doubt there are pain killers that Hamilton probably should stay away from. But pain killers neither cure nor heal Hamilton's injury. It's broken bone, not a sore leg.

It's not the dumbest thing ever said by a Sunday Night Baseball personality but it wasn't exactly genius either.

G-Fafif
Apr 13 2011 02:51 PM
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Bobby V not always in sync with Hamiltons. I hear he doesn't even like to carry $10 bills.


July 1, 2001

Mets Decide to Cut Ties to Hamilton

By TYLER KEPNER

ATLANTA, June 30 —
The acrimony that flared between Mets Manager Bobby Valentine and outfielder Darryl Hamilton on Friday continued today when Hamilton was designated for assignment.

Valentine is offended because he believes Hamilton got his wish. Hamilton is hurt by the way his Mets career ended.

The Mets have 10 days to trade or release Hamilton. They will assume the rest of his $3 million salary unless they can trade him.

They offered Hamilton to the Baltimore Orioles for Delino DeShields, another unproductive left-handed-hitting outfielder who was designated for assignment last Monday. The Orioles would save money on the deal because DeShields makes more than Hamilton, but the Orioles do not perceive Hamilton as a fit and are unlikely to make the trade.

Hamilton, 36, said he met with Valentine on Friday to discuss where he stood in the Mets' outfield rotation. ''I wasn't going in there demanding to be an everyday player,'' Hamilton said today by telephone from his home in Houston. ''At this point, I can't do that. That's fine with me.''

Valentine said he told Hamilton, a 13-year major league veteran, what he thought of him as a player, an assessment that surprised Hamilton.

''I never was derogatory; I was factual,'' Valentine said today. ''I said players ran on him in the outfield a lot, that his hits were not sharp and his outs were weak, and I didn't think he was an everyday player.''

Hamilton said he told Valentine in the meeting, ''You don't believe in me, I don't believe in you.'' Hamilton asked for his release, and Valentine suggested he quit.


Later, when the argument moved from the manager's office to a hallway at Turner Field, Valentine asked Hamilton if he wanted to stay in the lineup that night. Hamilton, feeling belittled by Valentine's sarcasm, declined.

''If you don't like what you can do at work, you quit,'' Valentine said. ''Or you come to work and you get paid every day and you do whatever you're supposed to do. That's what it's all about. It's not either, 'I do what I want to do or pay me.' I hate that. And it's happened here too many times.''

Hamilton said that he took offense to the Mets' portrayal that he did not want to play and that his agent and brother, John Hamilton, had asked four times for the team to release or trade him.

Hamilton, traded to the Mets in July 1999 by the Colorado Rockies, said he felt as if he was a scapegoat for the Mets' disappointing season. He is the latest player whose Mets career has ended in turmoil.

''You can't say I was in the clubhouse playing cards; you can't say I was out all night; you can't say I quit on the field,'' Hamilton said, referring to incidents that helped end the Mets careers of Bobby Bonilla, Todd Hundley and Rickey Henderson in recent seasons. ''You can do that with guys in the past, but you can't do that with me.''

Hamilton, in the last year of his contract, carried a .293 career average into this season but is hitting .214.

His teammates spoke positively of him today.

''I think he handled it totally professionally,'' first baseman Todd Zeile said. ''I don't think he was a distraction and he was a quality teammate, a good guy.''

metirish
Apr 17 2011 07:49 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

Gotta say I'm finding V a bit annoying on SNB , it's like him and Orel never stop talking ......a bit heavy on the MFY loving too for my taste.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 17 2011 08:51 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

I get the sense they are still feeling one another out. They are talking a lot tonite but didn't have much of anything to say during the opening day SFG-LAD game I watched.

The Second Spitter
Apr 17 2011 11:06 PM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

metirish wrote:
Gotta say I'm finding V a bit annoying on SNB , it's like him and Orel never stop talking ......


Gigantic egos and microphones go together like a bowl of chili con carne and Ipecac syrup.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 18 2011 09:35 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

The Second Spitter wrote:
metirish wrote:
Gotta say I'm finding V a bit annoying on SNB , it's like him and Orel never stop talking ......


Gigantic egos and microphones go together like a bowl of chili con carne and Ipecac syrup.


Or, as they call it on the Bobby V's menu, the "Roberto Alomar, hold the wiener."

The Second Spitter
Apr 18 2011 09:44 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

I'm sure Roberto Alomar's held his fair share of wieners.

metirish
Apr 18 2011 09:48 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I get the sense they are still feeling one another out. They are talking a lot tonite but didn't have much of anything to say during the opening day SFG-LAD game I watched.



no doubt and here is where Shulman is not taking charge I think , instead of him setting Hershiser and Valentine up to talk to their strengths it's as if they feel the need to fill a void. It's one of the things Cohen does great I think , Ron on pitching and Keith on hitting or the opposite at times.

There was a point during the game I thought Shulman must have left the building and Hershiser and Valentine were talking so much they talked over each other several times.

Ceetar
Apr 18 2011 09:51 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

I'm drawing a blank on the specifics now, but there was definitely a point where Bobby brought up physics and the other two were basically staring at him like he had two heads.

metirish
Apr 18 2011 09:55 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

Ceetar wrote:
I'm drawing a blank on the specifics now, but there was definitely a point where Bobby brought up physics and the other two were basically staring at him like he had two heads.




I think Bobby was talking about the physics of giving fellatio to Cano around the second base bag.

Ceetar
Apr 18 2011 09:56 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

metirish wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
I'm drawing a blank on the specifics now, but there was definitely a point where Bobby brought up physics and the other two were basically staring at him like he had two heads.




I think Bobby was talking about the physics of giving fellatio to Cano around the second base bag.


yeah, he lost me with the 1-2-3 step thing he was talking about regarding Cano.

Ceetar
Apr 18 2011 09:59 AM
Re: Our Daily Bobby, 2011

Oh, I remember now. They were doing that thing where they were breaking down how long it takes for the player to field, and then how long to throw to first, versus the runners time down the line. via Aldrus's close 'safe' at the bag.

Then they broke into discussion how the umpires are trained to watch for the foot and listen for the ball hit the glove. Bobby said they got the call right (graphic said it was .07s difference) despite the fact that sound travels slower than light.