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Klassik Rawk Kwiz

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 05 2011 01:38 PM

So while down visiting in VA for new year's, I was in constant company of the Big 100.3 Top 500 Countdown, as shitty formulaic Clear Channel radio stations are wont to do that time of year. They just played it over and over, and so I heard bits and pieces while jogging, helping out around the house, driving around town etc etc., but didn't get the Top 10 till I looked it up on the website today. Your challenge: Name the Top 10 songs in order. Enter once with a 10-song slate. I will collect & correct and name a Classic Rock Champion later this week. Please don't look it up, but for guidance here are some highlights: 500. Magic Bus, The Who 400. Walk of Life, Dire Straits 300. Love Her madly, Doors 200. Sledgehammer, Peter Gabriel 100. Dead or Alive, Bon Jovi Good luck!

Edgy DC Jan 05 2011 01:46 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

[crossout:2ojjc37u]10. "Piano Man" 9. "Hey Jude" 8. "American Pie" 6. "Baba O'Reilly" 5. "Born to Run" 4. "Rock 'n' Roll" 3. "Satisfaction" 2. "A Day in the Life" 1. "Stairway to Heaven"[/crossout:2ojjc37u] Beatle Free, and losing two adulty songs. 10. "Another Brick in the Fucking Wall" 9. "Won't Get Fooled Again" 8. "Light My Fire" 7. "Welcome to the Jungle" 6. "Baba O'Reilly" 5. "Bohemian Rhapsody" 4. "Rock 'n' Roll" 3. "Satisfaction" 2. "Born to Run" 1. "Stairway to Heaven"

batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2011 01:48 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 05 2011 01:54 PM

In order? That's unpossible without cheating. I'll give this a shot. The masses voted as follows: 1. Stairway to Heaven 2. Hey Jude 3. Let it Be 4. Satisfaction 5. Another Brick in the Wall 6. Eleanor Rigby 7. Baba O'Riley 8. [crossout:3h2lw0zg]A Day in the Life[/crossout:3h2lw0zg] Free Bird 9. Light My Fire 10. Whole Lotta Love Nothing newer than 1979.

smg58 Jan 05 2011 01:51 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 05 2011 04:29 PM

10. [crossout:37r0g76r]"Hey Jude"[/crossout:37r0g76r] "Hotel California" 9. "Light My Fire" 8. "Comfortably Numb" 7. "Baba O'Reilly" 6. "Won't Get Fooled Again" 5. "Kashmir" 4. "Born to Run" 3. "Free Bird" 2. "Layla" 1. "Stairway to Heaven"

batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2011 01:52 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Can I change one of my picks. I didn't cheat and I'm not copying any of Edgy's picks?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 05 2011 01:53 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I will give 2 points for every right position in the top 10 and 1 point for every right entry in the top 10. That sounds fair, yes? Yes, you may change your order and everything until I come in and say, "pencil's down." 24 hours at least.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 05 2011 02:01 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

PS, I should say one other thing. There are NO Beatles songs in the entire 500. This must be some idiotic Clear Channel formatty thing (Beatles might all fall under 'Adult Hits' or something. Who the hell knows. I would say that most of your other 'classic rock' artists are represented.

Edgy DC Jan 05 2011 02:08 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Holy shit! How can I live in their listening radius and not realize that?

Willets Point Jan 05 2011 02:13 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 05 2011 02:24 PM

10. "Another Brick in the Wall" 9. "American Pie" 8. "Born to Be Wild" 7. "Sweet Home Alabama" 6. "Light My Fire" 5. "Born To Run" 4. "Hotel Freakin' California" 3. "Layla" 2. "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction" 1. "Stairway to Heaven"

Centerfield Jan 05 2011 02:16 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

10. Walk this Way 9. Somebody to Love 8. Purple Haze 7. Light My Fire 6. Baba O'Reilly 5. Free Bird 4. American Pie 3. Layla 2. Hotel California 1. Stairway to Heaven You know, it's not that uncommon for Beatles not to be considered classic rock. FMan and Methead can weigh in, but I remember 95X in Syracuse being really light on the Beatles. No Bruce on my list since Virginia is not really the Northeast. I find when you go out of this area, his popularity drops a lot. Considering it's kinda the south, I thought maybe some Allmans would be on there but couldn't really decide on a song.

Willets Point Jan 05 2011 02:23 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Centerfield wrote: Considering it's kinda the south, I thought maybe some Allmans would be on there but couldn't really decide on a song. Good point. I'm editing my list.

Chad Ochoseis Jan 05 2011 02:47 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Did my best not to look at the other responses, but they're hard to miss. I would have completely forgotten Purple Haze if I hadn't seen CF's guess. 10: Smoke on the Water 9: Won't Get Fooled Again 8: You Can't Always Get What You Want 7: Purple Haze 6: Suite: Judy Blue Eyes 5: Roundabout 4: Time (for the record, the Pink Floyd song, not the Alan Parsons Project song) 3: FREE BIRD! FREE BIRD! 2: Satisfaction (yes, that's right, the Stones make the list twice, and get a shoutout on a third song on the list) 1: Stairway to Heaven

Edgy DC Jan 05 2011 02:51 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I'm not sure, but I might prefer the APP "Time."

Edgy DC Jan 05 2011 02:56 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: PS, I should say one other thing. There are NO Beatles songs in the entire 500. This must be some idiotic Clear Channel formatty thing (Beatles might all fall under 'Adult Hits' or something. Who the hell knows. I would say that most of your other 'classic rock' artists are represented. Amazingly, as recently as 2007, they were totally in bed with the Beatles, even the dead ones.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 05 2011 03:04 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Edgy DC wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: PS, I should say one other thing. There are NO Beatles songs in the entire 500. This must be some idiotic Clear Channel formatty thing (Beatles might all fall under 'Adult Hits' or something. Who the hell knows. I would say that most of your other 'classic rock' artists are represented. Amazingly, as recently as 2007, they were totally in bed with the Beatles, even the dead ones. What a completely f'd up industry radio is. I could tell just by listening for a few hours that the station was doing poorly financially (same 3 or 4 sponsors all day, long stretches commercial free) and appeared to have little rapport with the community (nobody callin in, no shout-outs to listeners, etc). One DJ I heard sounded like some guy in a studio doing all the Top 500s for CC.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 05 2011 03:22 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

10. "Born to Run," Springsteen 9. "Light My Fire," Rolling Stones 8. "Free Bird," Skeynhyrd 7. "Good Vibrations," Beach Boys 6. "Jailhouse Rock," Elvis 5. "Like A Rolling Stone," Dylan 4. "Johnny B. Goode," Chuck Berry 3. "Hotel California," Eagles 2. "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction," Stones 1. "Stairway." Doy.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2011 03:34 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

batmagadanleadoff wrote: In order? That's unpossible without cheating. I'll give this a shot. The masses voted as follows: 1. Stairway to Heaven 2. Hey Jude 3. Let it Be 4. Satisfaction 5. Another Brick in the Wall 6. Eleanor Rigby 7. Baba O'Riley 8. [crossout]A Day in the Life[/crossout] Free Bird 9. Light My Fire 10. Whole Lotta Love Nothing newer than 1979. Here's my revised list, post-"no Beatles" hint: 1. Stairway to Heaven 2. [crossout]Hey Jude[/crossout] Born to Run 3. Satisfaction 4. Another Brick in the Wall 5. [crossout]Eleanor Rigby[/crossout] Bohemian Rhapsody 6. Baba O'Riley 7. Free Bird 8. Light My Fire 9. Whole Lotta Love 10. [crossout]Let it Be[/crossout] Brown Sugar I added three songs that start with the letter "B". You're all misspelling Baba O'Riley. It's "Riley", like the Life of and basketball coach Pat; not like Charles Nelson.

HahnSolo Jan 05 2011 03:37 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

10 Whole Lotta Love 9 Baba O'Riley 8 Comfortably Numb 7 Layla 6 Hotel California 5 Born to Run 4 Won't Get Fooled Again 3 Satisfaction 2 Freebird 1 Stairway to Heaven

batmagadanleadoff Jan 05 2011 03:40 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

This blows. It'd be more interesting if we each made our own top 10 lists.

Chad Ochoseis Jan 05 2011 04:25 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

9. "Light My Fire," Rolling Stones I suspect that if this song makes the list, it would be the more popular Doors version.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 05 2011 05:15 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Whoops. Yup. Was trying to be simultaneously smart and ClearChannel-dumb, and my brain pooted on me. (See also: this month in Scrabble) REVISED: 10. "Born to Run," Springsteen 9. "Light My Fire," Doors 8. "Free Bird," Skeynhyrd 7. "Good Vibrations," Beach Boys 6. "Jailhouse Rock," Elvis 5. "Like A Rolling Stone," Dylan 4. "Johnny B. Goode," Chuck Berry 3. "Hotel California," Eagles 2. "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction," Stones 1. "Stairway." Doy.

metirish Jan 05 2011 06:01 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Great quiz.....you rawk JCL 1)- Free Bird - Skynyrd 2) - Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 3) - Satisfaction - Rolling Stones 4)What's Going On - Marvin Gaye 5) - Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys 6) - Smells like Teen Spirit - Nirvana 7) A Change Is Gonna Come - Sam Cooke 8) - Respect - Aretha franklin 9) - London Calling - The Clash 10) - Hound Dog - Elvis Tried my best to not look too hard at anyone else's list

Fman99 Jan 05 2011 07:45 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Yeah this is a sweet one. I am trying to remember what made the top 10 on one of these countdowns I listened to back in high school. 1. Stairway to Heaven Led Zep 2. Free Bird Lynyrd Skynyrd 3. Hotel California Eagles 4. Piano Man Billy Joel 5. Bohemian Rhapsody Queen 6. Dream On Aerosmith 7. Satisfaction Rolling Stones 8. Light My Fire Doors 9. Layla Derek & the Dominoes 10. Comfortably Numb Pink Floyd

Fman99 Jan 05 2011 07:51 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Just missing the cut is Aqualung and Baba O'Reilly (reviewing other entries now that I've posted mine).

Edgy DC Jan 05 2011 08:02 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: PS, I should say one other thing. There are NO Beatles songs in the entire 500. This must be some idiotic Clear Channel formatty thing (Beatles might all fall under 'Adult Hits' or something. Who the hell knows. I would say that most of your other 'classic rock' artists are represented. Amazingly, as recently as 2007, they were totally in bed with the Beatles, even the dead ones. What a completely f'd up industry radio is. I could tell just by listening for a few hours that the station was doing poorly financially (same 3 or 4 sponsors all day, long stretches commercial free) and appeared to have little rapport with the community (nobody callin in, no shout-outs to listeners, etc). One DJ I heard sounded like some guy in a studio doing all the Top 500s for CC. They were DJ-free for a while. They trumpeted it as an asset. Clear Channel is a beast. They've got so many people, but they've got no soul.

MFS62 Jan 05 2011 09:39 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I'm guessing "You Give Love a Bad Name" and "Living on a Prayer" are somewhere on the list. Later

metirish Jan 06 2011 07:00 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I think my list my be a little too "ethnic" for the South......I'm thinking I should have stuck in some Creedence Clearwater Revival.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 07:15 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I will announce a winner around 4pm today. Get those votes in!

Frayed Knot Jan 06 2011 07:16 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I think my list my be a little too "ethnic" for the South......I'm thinking I should have stuck in some Creedence Clearwater Revival. But that's the thing with 'Clear Channel' and other mega-station radio conglomerates: there are little if any regional distinctions. That same list could have been (and probably was) playing in their Minneapolis affiliate, their Phoenix station, and who knows where else over the holiday weekend, possibly with the same DJ.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 07:48 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I think my list my be a little too "ethnic" for the South......I'm thinking I should have stuck in some Creedence Clearwater Revival. But that's the thing with 'Clear Channel' and other mega-station radio conglomerates: there are little if any regional distinctions. That same list could have been (and probably was) playing in their Minneapolis affiliate, their Phoenix station, and who knows where else over the holiday weekend, possibly with the same DJ. I don't see your entry yet. Plus 62 needs 8 more songs and a proper order to participate. Winner gets to say he's the Classic Rock Champion of the CPF until the next contest. If you want you can wear a belt that says so.

TransMonk Jan 06 2011 07:59 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

1. Stairway to Heaven - Led Zepplin 2. Satisfaction - Rolling Stones 3. Hotel California - The Eagles 4. Won't Get Fooled Again - The Who 5. Another Brick In The Wall - Pink Floyd 6. Layla - Derek & The Dominos 7. Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd 8. Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen 9. Dream On - Aerosmith 10. You Shook Me All Night Long - AC/DC

Willets Point Jan 06 2011 08:40 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Frayed Knot wrote: I think my list my be a little too "ethnic" for the South......I'm thinking I should have stuck in some Creedence Clearwater Revival. But that's the thing with 'Clear Channel' and other mega-station radio conglomerates: there are little if any regional distinctions. That same list could have been (and probably was) playing in their Minneapolis affiliate, their Phoenix station, and who knows where else over the holiday weekend, possibly with the same DJ. According to Edgy's link this station is actually based in Washington, D.C which is very much a chocolate city. On the other hand what Frayed Knot says about big corporations watering down any regional differences is true. I think I'd rather listen to Metirish's classic rock station than any real classic crock stations out there.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 02:10 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

And now, 10 straight posts to reveal our champion. WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE - Guns & Roses. Score: Edgy, 1 point

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 02:13 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

LAYLA - Derek & the Dominos Scorers: Transmonk, SMG, Willets Point, Centerfield, Hahn Solo, 1 point each Scoreboard: Edgy, 1 Transmonk 1 SMG 1 Willets Point 1 Centerfield 1 Hahn Solo 1

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 02:19 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

FREE BIRD - Lynyrd Skynyrd Scorers: Hahn Solo, MetIrish, FMan, SMG, Centerfield, Chad Ochoseis, BatMags 1 point each, LWFS 2 points (congrats, man) Scoreboard: Edgy, 1 Transmonk 1 SMG 2 Willets Point 1 Centerfield 2 Hahn Solo 2 MetIrish 1 FMan 1 Chad Ochoseis 1 Batmags 1 LWFS 2

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 02:23 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

ROCK & ROLL - Led Zeppelin Scorers: Edgy 1 point Scoreboard: Edgy, 2 Transmonk 1 SMG 2 Willets Point 1 Centerfield 2 Hahn Solo 2 MetIrish 1 FMan 1 Chad Ochoseis 1 Batmags 1 LWFS 2

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 02:25 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

DREAM ON - Aerosmith Scorers: FMan 2 points (bam!), Transmonk 1 point Scoreboard: Edgy, 2 Transmonk 2 SMG 2 Willets Point 1 Centerfield 2 Hahn Solo 2 MetIrish 1 FMan 3 Chad Ochoseis 1 Batmags 1 LWFS 2

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 02:28 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY - Queen Scorers: Transmonk 1 point; Edgy, BatMags, FMan - 2 points each (nice job, fellas) Scoreboard: Edgy, 4 Transmonk 3 SMG 2 Willets Point 1 Centerfield 2 Hahn Solo 2 MetIrish 1 FMan 5 Chad Ochoseis 1 Batmags 3 LWFS 2

Centerfield Jan 06 2011 02:29 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I'm such a dork. I'm finding this really exciting.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 06 2011 02:32 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

DORK! (Same here.)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 02:33 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

HOTEL CALIFORNIA - Eagles Scorers: smg, Centerfield, LWFS, HahnSolo, FMan, Transmonk 1 point each; Willets Point 2 points (stab it with yo' steely knife) Scoreboard: Edgy, 4 Transmonk 4 SMG 3 Willets Point 3 Centerfield 3 Hahn Solo 3 MetIrish 1 FMan 6 Chad Ochoseis 1 Batmags 3 LWFS 3 Can anyone catch FMan?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 02:37 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

BORN TO RUN - Bruce Springsteen Scorers: Edgy, smg, Willets Point, LWFS, BatMags, Hahn Solo 1 point each Scoreboard: Edgy, 5 Transmonk 4 SMG 4 Willets Point 4 Centerfield 3 Hahn Solo 4 MetIrish 1 FMan 6 Chad Ochoseis 1 Batmags 4 LWFS 4

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 02:41 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

SWEET HOME ALABAMA - Lynyrd Skynyrd Scorers: Willets Point, Transmonk 1 point each Scoreboard (now in order for maximum excitement as the final card is revealed) FMan 6 Edgy, 5 Transmonk 5 Willets Point 5 SMG 4 Hahn Solo 4 Batmags 4 LWFS 4 Centerfield 3 MetIrish 1 Chad Ochoseis 1

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 06 2011 02:44 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Was SO close to bumping "Vibrations" for "Alabama." Durnit.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 02:47 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

And the number one song ever... yeah, boring. STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN - Led Zeppelin Scorers: Everyone except MetIrish 2, MetIrish 0 (what are you from some other country?) Final Standings FMan 8 Edgy, 7 Transmonk 7 Willets Point 7 SMG 6 Hahn Solo 6 Batmags 6 LWFS 6 Centerfield 5 Chad Ochoseis 3 MetIrish 1 Congratulations to FMan, wear your championship belt with pride.

Edgy DC Jan 06 2011 02:48 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Congratualtions are in order for Effy. I'd've never guess "SHA" had raised it's profile so. Stupid chicken commercials.

TransMonk Jan 06 2011 02:49 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Two apiece for Zep and Skynyrd...never would have guessed that. Leaving off the Boss killed me.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 06 2011 02:53 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

THAT'S HORSESHIT! (Throws half-empty-- or half-full, depending on what kind of mindset you've got-- Shiner Bock bottle against neon Coors sign on barroom wall; spits on floor) C'mon, Patty, let's go. LET'S GO, I said!

Edgy DC Jan 06 2011 02:56 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

No Rolling Stones either. Amazin'.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 02:56 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Well that was a thrilling exercise and I'm sure we all learned a lot. Props to Centerfield for identifying that a VA station might play more toward the Southern rock side but I would never have guessed SHA to be in the top 10, specially knowing that Free Bird is likely to occupy another spot on the list. I mean, crazy. FMan's decision to edge out "Aqualung" in his top 10 was a game-winning decision, and oddly, one of the inspirations for this kwiz. I was helping my brother-in-law paint his house while this list counted down somewhere in the low 400s when I predicted "Bungle in the Jungle" was coming next. (earlier, while jogging in the 480s, I correctly predicted the Police's 'Walking on the Moon' within 5 slots of its appearance). Anyway, I looked up the list to see where "Bungle" fell cuz I never heard it and discovered -- just like the Beatles -- Jethro Tull had zero representation on the entire 500. How could that be? Thanks for playing! Here's a link to the entire list: [url]http://www.thebigdc.com/pages/big500-countdown-new-years.html

metirish Jan 06 2011 03:54 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

This was a lot of fun,you should think of something similar.I sucked partly because I didn't look at others and mostly because I expected more from the southern folk It's like a bad opening to a Julie Roberts movie, JCL painting the outside of a house to the strains of Led Zeppelin

Centerfield Jan 06 2011 04:06 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Wow, so much for my theory on no Bruce.

Chad Ochoseis Jan 06 2011 04:17 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Holy carp...Purple Haze comes in at #42, one notch below Big Old Jet Airliner. What kind of funky shit was going down in their city? Also, Boston apparently once wrote a song called Party, which is the 498th best classic rock song of all time.

Fman99 Jan 06 2011 06:08 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

LAYLA - Derek & the Dominos Scorers: Transmonk, SMG, Willets Point, Centerfield, Hahn Solo, 1 point each Scoreboard: Edgy, 1 Transmonk 1 SMG 1 Willets Point 1 Centerfield 1 Hahn Solo 1 RECOUNT! I actually had Layla spot on at #9 as well, so you shorted me two points. I am the proud CPF Classic Rock champion.

Willets Point Jan 06 2011 06:21 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I got a point for including "Sweet Home Alabama" in my revised list. I lost a point for bumping out "Bohemian Rhapsody" to do so. Damn Washingtonians and their lack of taste in music.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 06:22 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

LAYLA - Derek & the Dominos Scorers: Transmonk, SMG, Willets Point, Centerfield, Hahn Solo, 1 point each Scoreboard: Edgy, 1 Transmonk 1 SMG 1 Willets Point 1 Centerfield 1 Hahn Solo 1 RECOUNT! I actually had Layla spot on at #9 as well, so you shorted me two points. I am the proud CPF Classic Rock champion. Holy crap, don't know how I missed that but you're right. It's FMan in a runaway: 10 points.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 06 2011 06:27 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Also, Boston apparently once wrote a song called Party, which is the 498th best classic rock song of all time. Wondered about that myself, but the song really exists. On the 2nd album. It's the one that goes: I'm gettin' ready for a party tonite I'm gettin ready to cruise And if you got somethin for me, I got somethin for you! Baby! It's a party and nobody cares! What you do Baby! It's a party whenever you're there It's a party! Party! Party!

Fman99 Jan 06 2011 06:34 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Also, Boston apparently once wrote a song called Party, which is the 498th best classic rock song of all time. Wondered about that myself, but the song really exists. On the 2nd album. It's the one that goes: I'm gettin' ready for a party tonite I'm gettin ready to cruise And if you got somethin for me, I got somethin for you! Baby! It's a party and nobody cares! What you do Baby! It's a party whenever you're there It's a party! Party! Party! It's a great song and I'm embarrassed for you that you don't already know it.

Willets Point Jan 06 2011 06:36 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Apparently the 80's are "Klassik Rawk" because U2 and R.E.M are represented (not to mention "Addicted to Love" by Robert Palmer at 119!) but couldn't find any bands from the 90's like Nirvana or Pearl Jam.

Edgy DC Jan 06 2011 07:01 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Chad Ochoseis wrote: Holy carp...Purple Haze comes in at #42, one notch below Big Old Jet Airliner. What kind of funky shit was going down in their city? Also, Boston apparently once wrote a song called Party, which is the 498th best classic rock song of all time. Not for nothing, but I imagine the entire list has about 10 songs with black vocalists, and eight of them are Jimi. but couldn't find any bands from the 90's like Nirvana or Pearl Jam. Whoah, now, don't be hastey. We'll see you in about five years with a lunchtime RockBlock of Collective Soul. Meantime, here's a little "Gimme Three Steps."

Edgy DC Jan 06 2011 07:35 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Other inneresting omissions: One KISS song --- "Rock 'n' Roll All Night" at 173. No Huey Lewis. (Classic rock formatted stations stapled him all over the place back in his prime. But he didn't have the staying powa.) No Bob Dylan. No Gerry Rafferty.

Willets Point Jan 06 2011 07:50 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Edgy DC wrote: Whoah, now, don't be hastey. We'll see you in about five years with a lunchtime RockBlock of Collective Soul. Meantime, here's a little "Gimme Three Steps." "Smells like Teen Spirit" turns 20 this year. "Stairway" was on Classic Rock stations when it was only 10 years old. Although it's not age the usually defines Classic Rock, usually more of rock songs with power chords from 1964-1979. That's why I was surprised that some 80's music slipped in.

Edgy DC Jan 06 2011 08:00 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Well, we know programmers have been asleep at the switch since about 1981. And almost none allowed in since then has been permitted without deep suspicion. It wasn't really Classick Rawk until about 1988, right? Until then in was FUHKIN' RAWK!

Willets Point Jan 06 2011 08:07 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Edgy DC wrote: It wasn't really Classick Rawk until about 1988, right? Until then in was FUHKIN' RAWK! The first Classic Rock station I remember was K-Rock which debuted in 1985 at the same time as Live Aid. Wikipedia claims the format originated in 1983.

Edgy DC Jan 06 2011 09:55 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Wow. K-Rock was ahead of the times in being behind the times.

Willets Point Jan 06 2011 10:54 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Edgy DC wrote: Wow. K-Rock was ahead of the times in being behind the times. And they put Dan Ingram out of work in the process.

Frayed Knot Jan 07 2011 07:30 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I remember back in the early/mid '80s sometime thinking that a great rock radio promotion would be an entire weekend of just 'Classic Rock' songs. I don't remember if that's what I called it, but the idea was that you'd get a lot of listeners if, for a short time, you'd play only those tunes which had attained a certain R&R status. Little did I know that someone would "steal" my idea and completely ruin it by turning it into a 24/7/365 snooze-fest. In the beginning I think a lot of stations more or less just kind of morphed into that format as play lists got tightened and newer releases got ignored. Then, after the bean-counters realized that aging baby-boomers had more money than 20-somethings who might be given to listening to other stuff and the idea proved too [crossout:1j2z3xoz]boring[/crossout:1j2z3xoz] er mainstream to fail did it become a widely-used and intentional formatting decision. K-Rock was the first one I remember also although I don't think I would have been able to place a date. The worst part of it was when they would run promo ads talking about how you should 'keep your dial where it is' because all the variety had disappeared from other stations. Infuriating! Mark Chernoff was the program director in those days (and earlier at WNEW and later at WFAN). We should all go over to his house and kick his ass; he's like 5' 2"/130 so it won't be hard.

Chad Ochoseis Jan 07 2011 08:01 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Every once in a while, I'll read through some CPF thread and marvel at how people know things like the approximate height of the guy who was K-Rock's program director in the mid-80's. EdgyDC wrote: Not for nothing, but I imagine the entire list has about 10 songs with black vocalists, and eight of them are Jimi. Yeah, I was thinking that. One of the many great losses when "album-oriented rock" morphed to "classic rock" was that the airplay for the brilliant and melanin-enhanced went from not nearly enough to zero. Has a classic rock station ever ventured far enough outside the mainstream even to play Bob Friggin' Marley? The other half of the Purple Haze/Big Old Jet Airliner inequality is puzzling, too. I'm wondering where I was when a bland, innocuous, perfectly OK ditty by the bland, innocuous, perfectly OK Steve Miller Band became the 41st bestest classic rock song of all time.

Edgy DC Jan 07 2011 08:12 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

That also has to be one of about eight songs on the list written by a black guy but sung by a white guy.

Willets Point Jan 07 2011 08:20 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Chad Ochoseis wrote: Yeah, I was thinking that. One of the many great losses when "album-oriented rock" morphed to "classic rock" was that the airplay for the brilliant and melanin-enhanced went from not nearly enough to zero. Has a classic rock station ever ventured far enough outside the mainstream even to play Bob Friggin' Marley? I read a great book that details the segregation of white and black music into "rock" and "r&b" by Elijah Wald. Ignore the unfortunate and provocative title How The Beatles Destroyed Rock & Roll because that's not really what the book is about.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 07 2011 08:44 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

As I recall it, mainstream rock radio formats really tightened in the early 80s and hit me a sensitive time. I can remember writing a letter to WPLJ complaining that if they'd treated all their Beatles-Stones-Who core the way they'd approached "Regatta de Blanc" -- one or two cuts off the whole record -- their catalog would suck and would suck more as time went on but they didn't listen to me. I literally was a card-carrying WPLJ member -- I sent away for their FM ("free money") Card and remember getting some qiuizzical look from a clerk at Record World when I asked for my discount with it. Seemed to me the "classic rock" movement picked up on listener dissatisfaction, but all the wrong kinds. It was a purposeful lowering of the bar to better distinguish the second-tier rock stations in their markets, and they won only because the No. 1s fucked themselves so hard by refusing to play "It's Alright for You." Also seems to me the movement got momentum after New Coke flopped and they repositioned the old brand as Coke Classic. The word "Classic" really took off after that and kind of became a stupid word.

metirish Jan 07 2011 08:47 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Bucket What a completely f'd up industry radio is. I could tell just by listening for a few hours that the station was doing poorly financially (same 3 or 4 sponsors all day, long stretches commercial free) and appeared to have little rapport with the community (nobody callin in, no shout-outs to listeners, etc). One DJ I heard sounded like some guy in a studio doing all the Top 500s for CC. I laugh at this because now I know what is really probably happening when a radio station boasts about the long stretches of commercial free music....

Willets Point Jan 07 2011 08:55 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Wow, by the time I came of age WPLJ was firmly in a Top40/Dance Pop format and the Police (not to mention the Stones-Beatles-Who) would not be heard. I admit to my shame that I spent a couple of years as an adherent of WPLJ's competitor Z-100.

metirish Jan 07 2011 09:03 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I remember when I first came here in 1994 Q1043 was a rock station playing Pearl Jam , Nirvana , The Offspring(a lot) and IIRC WNEW was playing Classic Rawk......then they switched I think....it became confusing over the years who was playing what....I can tell you though that coming from Ireland where we had 2FM where only Dave Fanning at night played Rock and some bad feeds from Radio Luxembourg going way back it was cool to have dedicated Rock stations

Edgy DC Jan 07 2011 09:31 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Willets Point wrote: Wow, by the time I came of age WPLJ was firmly in a Top40/Dance Pop format and the Police (not to mention the Stones-Beatles-Who) would not be heard. I admit to my shame that I spent a couple of years as an adherent of WPLJ's competitor Z-100. The format change was necessitated by their deafness to Bucket's plea. The funny thing is that before it was Classk Rock, the format was called Album-Oriented Rock. But in the face of the punk-new wave revolutions hitting America and the programmers' tone-deafness to it, the only bands getting album cuts were the Beatles/Stones/Who/Zep. Really realiable acts were reduced to two songs. The Kinks were just below the status of the legendary four in 1980, but by 1985, they were down to five cuts. That Top 500 list that started this has one Kinks song. About a dude falling for a dude.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 07 2011 09:31 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Willets Point wrote: Wow, by the time I came of age WPLJ was firmly in a Top40/Dance Pop format and the Police (not to mention the Stones-Beatles-Who) would not be heard. I admit to my shame that I spent a couple of years as an adherent of WPLJ's competitor Z-100. You're not alone. But then, the humor of cheap music parody (as opposed to tasteful, Met-based music parody) and the prospect of winning stuff-- A Def Leppard prize pack! Tickets to Martika!-- by calling a number over and over had a certain cachet for Lil' LWFS. And forget Bob Marley... I'm guessing that Chuck Berry, Ike Turner and-- y'know-- the guys who invented the damn format are off in some black-music CC ghetto playing pattycake with Ray Charles, Isaac Hayes and Fishbone.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 07 2011 09:33 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Edgy DC wrote: Willets Point wrote: Wow, by the time I came of age WPLJ was firmly in a Top40/Dance Pop format and the Police (not to mention the Stones-Beatles-Who) would not be heard. I admit to my shame that I spent a couple of years as an adherent of WPLJ's competitor Z-100. The format change was necessitated by their deafness to Bucket's plea. The funny thing is that before it was Classk Rock, the format was called Album-Oriented Rock. But in the face of the punk-new wave revolutions hitting America and the programmers' tone-deafness to it, the only bands getting album cuts were the Beatles/Stones/Who/Zep. Really realiable acts were reduced to two songs. The Kinks were just below the status of the legendary four in 1980, but by 1985, they were down to five cuts. That Top 500 list that started this has one Kinks song. About a dude falling for a dude. Wow. I was also close to dislodging "Good Vibrations" for "You Really Got Me." Fman, you are the king of a strange land.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 07 2011 09:34 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

My Dad found the phrase "Album-Oriented rock" amusing. He said he was going to listen to Japanese music on an "Orient-oriented rock" station.

Frayed Knot Jan 07 2011 10:26 AM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

The death rattle of A-O-R came for me not long after Bruce's 'Born in the USA' album came out. WNEW, not quite what they once were but still the main player in NYC rock radio, of course jumped on the album early and often. Several months after it's release I was listening to one of their DJs (Dave Herman I think) go into a spiel about how sometimes when an album comes out you dismiss a few of the songs as filler only to catch onto to it later on. This, he explained, had just happened to him with I think it was 'No Surrender'. Prior to that the station had been playing mostly the title track and 'Dancing in the Dark' as the big hits and the implication was clear that his playing of a different cut was his choice sparked by a recent 'hear it again for the first time' moment even though everyone know that the days of DJs having total control over what they played were already long gone. But the 'Foxwoods Casino Turning Point of the Game' moment came when I was to hear that same 'choice' played again on the station at least a half-dozen times over the next day or two, something which made it apparent that the playing of the song hadn't been a spontaneous Dave Herman moment at all but a Pavlovian response to the fact that the record company had just released NS as a new single. That the station had instantly treated a song by a major artist like something only worth playing on rare occasions to one which now occupied an almost AM-like spot in their rotation all on account of an outside corporation's decision was the exact thing AOR had sprung up to combat some 15 years earlier and the fact that the DJ had taken such pains to pretend that reason for why it was being played wasn't the reason at all was the sound of that mission's last breath.

Edgy DC Jan 07 2011 12:56 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

metirish wrote: Bucket What a completely f'd up industry radio is. I could tell just by listening for a few hours that the station was doing poorly financially (same 3 or 4 sponsors all day, long stretches commercial free) and appeared to have little rapport with the community (nobody callin in, no shout-outs to listeners, etc). One DJ I heard sounded like some guy in a studio doing all the Top 500s for CC. I laugh at this because now I know what is really probably happening when a radio station boasts about the long stretches of commercial free music.... Really, who advertises on radio anymore? The only ones I hear are for auto insurance and diamond jewlery mall chains like Zales and Mervis.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 07 2011 01:09 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Edgy DC wrote: Really, who advertises on radio anymore? The only ones I hear are for auto insurance and diamond jewlery mall chains like Zales and Mervis. You're forgetting the reh-hest! The one thing I caught a lot of this past month was audio-only versions of holiday TV spots (mostly for car companies like Honda and Hyundai) featuring holiday music.

sharpie Jan 07 2011 01:12 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

About two years ago my wife and I drove to North Carolina in a rented truck and all we had was for the 14 hour drive was the radio. Even lowering our standards to "anything is fine except for Contemporary Country and preachy Christian music" we could hardly find anything to listen to unless you were near a city or a college. I remember when WPLJ hit the air. I was a big fan of Alex Bennett who had been recently kicked off of WMCA for his liberal opinions and so I listened to his morning show that first morning. Station was named after the song WPLJ, a '50's number covered by Frank Zappa, so that was cool. It started off as "free form radio" and went south very quickly.

Edgy DC Jan 07 2011 01:14 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Well, sure car dealers and beer brewers will still sponsor ballgames, but I mean to ask, Who advertises on music stations?

metirish Jan 07 2011 01:16 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Edgy DC wrote: Well, sure car dealers and beer brewers will still sponsor ballgames, but I mean to ask, Who advertises on music stations? I rarely even listen.... Is music radio dead? Any radio I listen to now is Pandora and variations of it.

Edgy DC Jan 07 2011 01:17 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

sharpie wrote: Station was named after the song WPLJ, a '50's number covered by Frank Zappa, so that was cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2j1NXBCNp8

Frayed Knot Jan 07 2011 02:00 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Didn't know that about the origin of the PLJ call letters - but by the time I was listening to them they were much more top-40. They actually beat WNEW to the punch as the first of the commercial NYC free-form stations when the FCC freed-up a whole bunch of previously simulcast FM frequencies (PLJ was WABC-FM) but then they wound up going downhill much faster.

sharpie Jan 07 2011 02:11 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

I believe WNEW was already a free-form station and WPLJ went free-form to compete with them. Didn't last long...for either one.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 07 2011 02:28 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

They used to play a snippet of that White Port & Lemon Juice song as a "bumper" on WPLJ. I still listen to the radio some, mainly for Mets games but also while I'm running off-season, both have become mild amusements. Last night, Ian O'Malley (subbing for Carol Miller) became the Classic Rock Champion of New York DJs by playing Layla and Freebird back-to-back, a combo that took me all the way from Suffolk Street in Manhattan to North 6th in Brooklyn.

Frayed Knot Jan 07 2011 03:27 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 07 2011 04:07 PM

Good God, Carol Miller is still on the air?!?!? She represented, to me, the worst of the (then) newer wave of DJs as progressive rock grew increasingly less progressive. When there was a Beatles revival of a sorts going on CM was the worlds biggest Beatles fan. She later was the queen of BRUCE fans but only after he reached national prominence with BitUSA, and only later when Klassic Rawk was king was she the self-proclaimed Led Zep fan of all time. She'd also, every once in a while, accidently slip out of her contrived sexy-chick radio voice and into her true Noo Yawk accent.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 07 2011 03:32 PM Re: Klassik Rawk Kwiz

Yeah, she is the Zep queen today, and still doing weeknights. She actually produces and hosts a weekly Zeppelin hour that's syndicated. She sounds very Noo Yawk and to be honest, kinda bored with the whole thing most nights, tho she's kinda cute when she delivers sports games updates and it's clear she doesn't know the Rangers from the Knicks from the Jets. You know we all met the Dasher last year who does the Sunday morning Beatles show. He's a good egg, shorter and stubbier than me, and a real Met fan.