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What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 25 2011 06:36 PM

Lunchpail came home from preschool with a note saying he'd been using the expression "what the hell." WTF?

Kong76 Jan 25 2011 07:27 PM Re: Apropos of nothing thread 2011

It's better than, "lick me, bitch!"

Ceetar Jan 25 2011 07:54 PM Re: Apropos of nothing thread 2011

Kong76 wrote: It's better than, "lick me, bitch!" That depends. Was it directed at another student, a teacher, or the janitor?

seawolf17 Jan 26 2011 07:40 AM Re: Apropos of nothing thread 2011

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Lunchpail came home from preschool with a note saying he'd been using the expression "what the hell." WTF? The other day in the car, MiniWolf said "Oh, Ship." When questioned, he said, "What? Ship is not a bad word."

Benjamin Grimm Jan 26 2011 07:46 AM Re: Apropos of nothing thread 2011

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Lunchpail came home from preschool with a note saying he'd been using the expression "what the hell." WTF? Are you WTFing the fact that he said it, or the fact that they sent home a note?

Ashie62 Jan 26 2011 07:53 AM Re: Apropos of nothing thread 2011

So the kid is a funny fuck. My nephew got tossed for the day for calling a kid a "gizzler."

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 26 2011 08:09 AM Re: Apropos of nothing thread 2011

Benjamin Grimm wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Lunchpail came home from preschool with a note saying he'd been using the expression "what the hell." WTF? Are you WTFing the fact that he said it, or the fact that they sent home a note? I was practicing writing a joke. Picture a stand-up comic delivering that line. We don't know what the context was, but we're sure he didn't understand if it was inappropriate or not. He says lots of funny things inadvertently.

Ceetar Jan 26 2011 08:14 AM Re: Apropos of nothing thread 2011

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Lunchpail came home from preschool with a note saying he'd been using the expression "what the hell." WTF? Are you WTFing the fact that he said it, or the fact that they sent home a note? I was practicing writing a joke. Picture a stand-up comic delivering that line. We don't know what the context was, but we're sure he didn't understand if it was inappropriate or not. He says lots of funny things inadvertently. Imagine how smart kids could be if we spent more time teaching them and less time convincing them certain words are "bad naughty evil nasty" words that only adults are allowed to say?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 26 2011 08:38 AM Re: Apropos of nothing thread 2011

I don;t think a whole lot of time is wasted on that. We try to teach him that all words are good, but how you use them is important.

metirish Jan 26 2011 08:45 AM Re: Apropos of nothing thread 2011

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: We try to teach him that all words are good, but how you use them is important. Yeah this.......Lorcan recently started saying shut up.....but he's very good about not saying it after we explain to him he shouldn't....one day he said "stupid"...we corrected him and then he started correcting us for saying it....it's then that we realize we say it a lot(watching movies or whatever) and he gets it from us...."daddy don't say that bad word"....in fact he reminded me last night at the dinner table....another one is a few months back everything was "uh-huh" when you asked him a question.....we corrected him and to this day when he hears us saying it he corrects us.....again I didn't realize how much I say that.....

Ceetar Jan 26 2011 08:45 AM Re: Apropos of nothing thread 2011

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I don;t think a whole lot of time is wasted on that. We try to teach him that all words are good, but how you use them is important. Oh sure, I'm generalizing. I just found it odd that the response to a kid saying a word the teacher doesn't like is to hand him a note with that word written on it.

Edgy DC Jan 26 2011 08:46 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

What a pain that kid is.

Vic Sage Jan 26 2011 09:22 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

I have a very George Carlin view of this with my kids. I've explained that words are neither "good", nor "bad", but are just tools to express ideas. Now sometimes IDEAS can be hurtful, regardless of the words used. Sarcasm, condescension, ridicule, for instance, are all hurtful styles of exression that do not require any of the "evil words" demonized by word police. And one can say "fuck!", as expression of exasperation, like when you inadvertantly drop your homework in the toilet, and be fully justified in doing so. I've also explained that not everyone has this attitude about words, and that when in mixed company, they are liable to be judged by a different standard based on the "vulgarity" of their vocabulary, because our society is entirely hypocritical on this issue, and they should proceed at their own risk, if they choose to use the entire english language, and not just the parts other people feel are "appropriate". This specifically applies to cursing in front of their mother, who certainly doesn't hold my view on this subject... which, i think, has given them some insight into politics at a young age. As Carlin and Orwell suggested, language is already a poor enough medium of expression that to arbitrarily limit it further and insist on euphemisms out of a sense of victorian propriety actually impoverishes discourse and, consequently, thought. Sometimes "fuck" is the right word for the situation. FREE FUCK! FREE FUCK NOW!

metsmarathon Jan 26 2011 09:23 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

sometimes i think minimm is a smurf, only he's way taller than 3 apples, and his skin isn't blue. he's learned one word, and it's apparently the only word he would ever need in life: "that" in doing so, he's effectively demonstrated to us the need to identify things by their actual name, instead of simply going for the pronouns. he'll use it for food, toys, downstairs, everything. when he gets really frustrated with our inability to decipher which of the candidate "that"s which he's pointing at, he then over pronounces the "th" to aid in our understanding. it doesn't always help. i'm pretty sure he's working on "this" as well, to better distinguish from "that", but really, until he starts coming up with actual nouns, he's gotta get a lot better at pointing.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 26 2011 09:34 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

Vic Sage wrote: I have a very George Carlin view of this with my kids. I've explained that words are neither "good", nor "bad", but are just tools to express ideas. Now sometimes IDEAS can be hurtful, regardless of the words used. Sarcasm, condescension, ridicule, for instance, are all hurtful styles of exression that do not require any of the "evil words" demonized by word police. And one can say "fuck!", as expression of exasperation, like when you inadvertantly drop your homework in the toilet, and be fully justified in doing so. I've also explained that not everyone has this attitude about words, and that when in mixed company, they are liable to be judged by a different standard based on the "vulgarity" of their vocabulary, because our society is entirely hypocritical on this issue, and they should proceed at their own risk, if they choose to use the entire english language, and not just the parts other people feel are "appropriate". This specifically applies to cursing in front of their mother, who certainly doesn't hold my view on this subject... which, i think, has given them some insight into politics at a young age. As Carlin and Orwell suggested, language is already a poor enough medium of expression that to arbitrarily limit it further and insist on euphemisms out of a sense of victorian propriety actually impoverishes discourse and, consequently, thought. Sometimes "fuck" is the right word for the situation. FREE FUCK! FREE FUCK NOW! Yeah, this is pretty what I believe right down to the wife who'd prefer to outlaw "bad words."

soupcan Jan 26 2011 09:48 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

I agree with Vic as well but I'm sure that his kids, like mine, don't need a whole lot of direction when in mixed company. My kids just don't curse among people they do not know. Plain & simple. I try to parent by example but when it comes to this issue I wouldn't have a leg to stand on as my mouth is as bad as the next guy. I got that from my mom who taught me not to 'give a flying fuck' at a pretty early age. That along with her standard answer when we asked what was for dinner ('shit with mustard now get out of the kitchen until I call you...!') molded my blue-ish every day vocabulary. So while my wife and I do furrow a brow here and there when the kids let fly, we tolerate it for the most part as long as they are aware of the appropriate place, time and emotion. All this being said - if you say 'vagina' in a normal tone of voice at any time, anywhere, my 10 year-old daughter will break into fits of hysterics.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 26 2011 09:56 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

When I speak, my language is usually mostly PG, but not quite PG-13. I'll freely say "damn" and "hell" but "shit" is rare and "fuck" much rarer than that. If I say "shit" in front of my kids, it's always intentional, either to make them laugh or to let them know that I'm really pissed at them. I do agree that we, as a culture, are too hung up over language. I sometimes wonder if we wouldn't all be better off if Elmo would drop a few f-bombs on Sesame Street. After the initial uproar, maybe the word would lose its sting.

Edgy DC Jan 26 2011 09:59 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

Maybe. Or maybe the world would end, so...

themetfairy Jan 26 2011 10:12 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

I swear depending on context - where I am and whom I'm with. My kids have been around me while watching enough Mets games that they heard a lot of bad words at an early age. This actually worked in our favor. When we were watching Ken Burns' Baseball documentary with them, we stopped the VCR right before the Jackie Robinson segment. I told them that they had heard me use lots of bad words, and they had heard their dad use a lot of bad words, but there were words coming up that they should NEVER use under any circumstances. I think that really made an impression on them. For the most part, my kids grew up with a decent sense of when it was safe to curse and when they needed to watch their tongues. I don't think they're any worse the wear for it. ======================== BTW, as a side note, some of you know that I used to live in the same apartment building as Denis Leary, and I was friendly with his wife. One day she was telling me that their son's preschool was not happy with the fact that the kid was able to spell A-S-S-H-O-L-E. Like there was anything anyone was going to be able to do about that while Denis was in the middle of his No Cure for Cancer Off-Broadway run....

Vic Sage Jan 26 2011 10:30 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

Denis Leary's I'M AN ASSHOLE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o30wacwdoc

dgwphotography Jan 26 2011 10:54 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

Mother only swore during Mets games - I've acquired the same habit... There are two words I will never say - one of them is such an ugly word for such a beautiful place... Last April, my daughter instituted a swear jar. Every time one of us swore, we had to put a quarter into the jar. Her timing was not coincidental. She figured to be rich by June...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 26 2011 12:29 PM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Vic Sage wrote: I have a very George Carlin view of this with my kids. I've explained that words are neither "good", nor "bad", but are just tools to express ideas. Now sometimes IDEAS can be hurtful, regardless of the words used. Sarcasm, condescension, ridicule, for instance, are all hurtful styles of exression that do not require any of the "evil words" demonized by word police. And one can say "fuck!", as expression of exasperation, like when you inadvertantly drop your homework in the toilet, and be fully justified in doing so. I've also explained that not everyone has this attitude about words, and that when in mixed company, they are liable to be judged by a different standard based on the "vulgarity" of their vocabulary, because our society is entirely hypocritical on this issue, and they should proceed at their own risk, if they choose to use the entire english language, and not just the parts other people feel are "appropriate". This specifically applies to cursing in front of their mother, who certainly doesn't hold my view on this subject... which, i think, has given them some insight into politics at a young age. As Carlin and Orwell suggested, language is already a poor enough medium of expression that to arbitrarily limit it further and insist on euphemisms out of a sense of victorian propriety actually impoverishes discourse and, consequently, thought. Sometimes "fuck" is the right word for the situation. FREE FUCK! FREE FUCK NOW! Yeah, this is pretty what I believe right down to the wife who'd prefer to outlaw "bad words." Same. Only I've been leaning pretty heavily on the "fuck" for a while now (as well as a few other choice ones; a few weeks ago, at a holiday party, I was thisclose to calling some guy I'd met "one dumb cunt" in mixed company... of wifey's friends). I've been making a conscious effort to wean myself off 'em a bit in the new year... but so far, I just sound like a tubby, atheist Flanders. ("Oh, Fudge! Fudging Hens!")

Vic Sage Jan 26 2011 03:17 PM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

I was thisclose to calling some guy I'd met "one dumb cunt" in mixed company... of wifey's friends). How close? A cunt's hair? That close? I would've given a golden drachma to see the look on your wife's face had you dropped the C bomb amidst a gaggle of her friends.

Kong76 Jan 26 2011 06:36 PM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

Does anyone know why 'cunt' disturbs 71.267%* of the US population? * +/- 2%

Fman99 Jan 26 2011 06:48 PM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

You're all fucking gizzlers.

Kong76 Jan 26 2011 06:58 PM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

I don't even know what a gizzler is and I ain't gonna google it so there!

Ashie62 Jan 26 2011 09:53 PM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

Kong76 wrote: I don't even know what a gizzler is and I ain't gonna google it so there! gizzler=fag

Rockin' Doc Jan 26 2011 09:58 PM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

I have a rather tame vocabulary when it comes to swearing. Damn and hell are my most common "curse" words and I'll supplement those with shit and ass on occasion, but on the whole I really don't curse very much. I don't swear as a part of my routine, daily vocabulary. Like Ben, my vocabulary is pretty much PG rated.

dgwphotography Jan 27 2011 04:40 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

Kong76 wrote: Does anyone know why 'cunt' disturbs 71.267%* of the US population? * +/- 2% Because it's such an ugly word for such a beautiful place....

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 27 2011 06:47 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

Not the most euphonic of vaginal cusses, either. (Compare to the sibilance of "pussy" or the cheeky "quim.")

Kong76 Jan 27 2011 07:37 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

I don't know, but I like the word ... I don't overuse it and I'm generally not offensive in public anyways (in real life). But muttering under my breath, "stupid cunt" sometimes just describes a situation like no other phrase. "Silly cunt" too, and it's not even gender specific for me 9 times out of 10 and cer- tainly has nothing to do with the female body part.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 27 2011 09:02 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

Had a running argument with a few friends back in high school about whether "cunt" or "pussy" was the worse insult (in terms of injury to the target and in terms of vulgarity). My buddy Josh's argument was similar to Kase's-- that intent was somewhat important, and if your insult wasn't sexist (slamming a strong female boss for being a "bitchy cunt," e.g.), then "cunt" was more synonymous with "asshole," whereas "pussy" ALWAYS carried the stain of negative femininity/amasculinity (womanhood as cowardice/whininess), no matter the context.

batmagadanleadoff Jan 27 2011 09:37 AM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

I like the word. It begins with the "K" sound. That's supposed to be funny. I agree. And then there's the versatility factor: it's another word for vagina.

cooby Feb 02 2011 02:43 PM Re: What the Hell? (split from Apropos)

This is a funny thread! Soupcan, your mom must have been a real hit with her inlaws, lol...