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Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

Edgy MD
Feb 12 2011 09:06 PM

Óliver (Martinez) Pérez.



Pos: SP; BL-TL.

Born: August 15, 1981 in Culiacan, Sinaloa, Mexico. (He'll be 29 in 2011.)

Birth Context Karma: The SHaMs of 1981 were storming into the fringes of the second-half race with a 3-1 victory over the world champeen Phillies. That Leach guy might be worth a look.

Acquired: Traded by the Pirates with Roberto Hernandez to the New York Mets for Xavier Nady on July 31, 2006.

TmLgWLW-L%ERAGGSGFCGSHOSVIPHRERHRBBIBBSOHBPBKWPBFERA+WHIPH/9HR/9BB/9SO/9SO/BBBB-Ref WARFG WAR
St. LucieFLOR (A+)11.5004.6322000011.6776624014101470.9435.41.53.110.83.5
BuffaloIL (AAA)00.0002.3122000011.67104327010202531.4577.71.55.47.71.43
TotalMinors11.5003.4744000023.33171094110243031001.2006.61.54.29.32.18
NYMNL05.0006.80177400046.1543735942337404234582.07210.51.78.27.20.88-1.5-1.1
TotalAll16.1435.702111400069.437147441353361707334583.27217.13.212.416.53.06


Number: 46

Wife: Luz Arianna Felix Gutierrez Perez



Nickname: Nothing kind.

Namesakes: Gigolo on the left:


Best Day in 2010: Good days were not common for Ollie in 2010, at least not on the field. But he didn't come out terrible. His second start had some grind-it-out quality, before the bullpen spit it out. (Yes Fernando Nieve was pitching his third day in four there.)

Last Word: Oliver is coming to camp, expecting to be abused, and ultimately released before camp ends. If he pitches well, it's most likely to be a set up for a trade to a team willing to take him on at 5-10% of his salary. If.

What do you expect of Oliver Perez in 2011? Be kind. He's holding a puppy.

El Segundo Escupidor
Feb 12 2011 09:57 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

I think he'll revert to the chinstrap extended to his sideburns, with a small soul patch. No mo.

Edgy MD
Feb 12 2011 10:03 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Wouldn't it be great if he showed up with a big fuckin' crazy rooster mohawk?

Valadius
Feb 12 2011 11:08 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Hurts his leg jumping over the foul line and we never see him again.

Lefty Specialist
Feb 13 2011 12:27 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Squirted out of this universe like a cosmic watermelon seed, never to be seen or heard from again.

El Segundo Escupidor
Feb 13 2011 01:32 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Edgy DC wrote:
Wouldn't it be great if he showed up with a big fuckin' crazy rooster mohawk?



Shit yeah. If I was his PR man I'd tell him to do it. Get him some thick-rimmed black glasses, too. The Citi faithful will lap it up.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 13 2011 04:34 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Released during the final week of spring training. Will sign a minor league deal elsewhere and will briefly resurface in the majors in August.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 13 2011 06:09 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

He's got a chance of sticking around longer than Castillo, IMO. He might also be the No. 5 starter, someone has to be and he prolly has more stuff than any of the other candidates.

Fan/media racism will be his enemy. Would they be satisfied if he repeated 2008?

10-7, 4.22, 105/180 K/BB in 194 IP

Ceetar
Feb 13 2011 06:40 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
He's got a chance of sticking around longer than Castillo, IMO. He might also be the No. 5 starter, someone has to be and he prolly has more stuff than any of the other candidates.

Fan/media racism will be his enemy. Would they be satisfied if he repeated 2008?

10-7, 4.22, 105/180 K/BB in 194 IP


Pretty much. Castillo, while probably not as 'washed up' as people make him out to be, doesn't have the potential to contribute above and beyond what Ollie does.

I'd accept that line out of our fifth starter. My 'ideal' I guess, would be Young and Cap, with Perez accepting Buffalo, which seems slim. When someone goes down, he comes up and has a decent couple of months as a bridge to Santana.

TheOldMole
Feb 13 2011 08:16 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

OK, someone has to be the insane optimist. Drastically improves his WHiP, becomes the 4th starter, wins 12 games.

metsmarathon
Feb 13 2011 09:02 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

i expect he just barely, and quite unpopularily, makes the rotation out of spring trianing. by the end of april, with an ERA approaching six, he's on his last legs. in his first game of may, he improbably throws a no hitter, but still walks seven, including the winning runs. it is his last start as a met.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 13 2011 09:03 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

metsmarathon wrote:
i expect he just barely, and quite unpopularily, makes the rotation out of spring trianing. by the end of april, with an ERA approaching six, he's on his last legs. in his first game of may, he improbably throws a no hitter, but still walks seven, including the winning runs. it is his last start as a met.


Awesome

MFS62
Feb 13 2011 09:06 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

He'll make the team, then surprise everyone when he pitches so well that, if Omar were still here, he'd give him a contract extension.

OK, so I'm taking the last of my pain pills.
Never mind.

Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 13 2011 10:31 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Late one night, after Ollie's release in April, Luz will watch Ollie walk slowly to the curb to take out the trash, miss the can three times, and shuffle around aimlessly. She will sob and cry, dry her eyes with 1500-thread-count disposable tissue, and drift off to sleep, thinking about how things might be different if she hadn't blown off that cocky Gallardo kid in the club that night.

G-Fafif
Feb 13 2011 10:33 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

I don't expect a lot, so boy, am I in a position to be pleasantly surprised.

TransMonk
Feb 13 2011 10:47 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Released during the final week of spring training. Will sign a minor league deal elsewhere and will briefly resurface in the majors in August.
This.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 13 2011 11:21 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Misses the team flight from Florida heading north, and is never seen or heard from again. Mets security tapes, leaked to the press by Mets security, show that Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz were the last persons to see Ollie alive. Fred and Saul's Q ratings quadruple when Ollie is later declared dead and it is revealed that Wilpon and Katz were each the sole beneficiaries of a $50 million life insurance policy taken out on Ollie.

Ollie Perez pitched two of the worst 11 pitcher-WAR seasons in franchise history. He would've had two in the top 10, but Ollie v2010 displaced Ollie v2009 by one slot. Ollie's 2010 pitching WAR is the worst of the worst rate-wise, averaging one negative WAR every 30.89 innings.

Some contract.

RankPitcherWARYEARIP/WAR
1Paul Wilson-2.81996-53.21
2Craig Anderson-2.01962-65.67
3Randy Jones-1.81981-32.96
4Doug Sisk-1.71985-42.94
5Jim McAndrew-1.71973-47.25
6Oliver Perez-1.52010-30.89
7Aaron Heilman-1.52003-43.55
8Cal Koonce-1.51969-55.33
9Pete Schourek-1.51993-85.55
10Jay Hook-1.51963-101.78
11Oliver Perez-1.42009-47.14

smg58
Feb 13 2011 11:48 AM
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Expectations? None whatsoever.

Edgy MD
Feb 13 2011 11:53 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

I expect him to give an interview in which, no matter what he says, people will passionately use it against him.

bmfc1
Feb 13 2011 12:41 PM
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I don't understand your post, Edgy. Perez hasn't earned a bit of credibility with me, and with almost all Mets fans, after refusing to do what was best for the team and go to the minors. Shame on the Mets for not cutting his sorry ass right then but he became a non-entity to me the minute that happened. He's a horrible pitcher, he's not a team player, and the Mets have wasted far too much time and energy on him.

I hope that he wins 30 games this year for the Mets, I hope that he become successful in any role, because as long as he's wearing the blue & orange I will root for him but they could cut him right now and I'd be happy. I have no expectations for him other than to continue to suck, to pout, and to take up spring innings that could be taken by someone with a better chance of success in 2011 which is anybody else in camp.

Mets Guy in Michigan
Feb 13 2011 01:28 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

I am convinced that Oliver Perez will throw the Mets' first no-hitter.

Sadly, it will come on a night game in San Francisco with a two-hour rain delay, meaning none of us will see it live. But that's OK because we'll miss Jose Reyes spraining his ankle on the wet turf.

The next day, the Daily News back page will have a dominant photo of ARod buying Cameron Diaz a hot dog from a street vendor -- but he accidentally knocks over a baby in a stroller trying to dodge the camera, all under the headline "DOG DISASTER: ARod tips tot." Buried in a teaser box at the bottom, the headline: Despite Madoff mess, Mets blank Giants.

Ian O'Conner will Tweet that day: Ollie would have more no-nos with Jeter behind him.

Bob Klapisch will write a whole column hinting -- but not actually saying -- that Bud Selig ordered the Giants to go easy on the Mets that night, noting that Buster Posey was given the night off and Ollie was matched up against the fifth starter.

Edgy MD
Feb 13 2011 01:37 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

bmfc1 wrote:
I don't understand your post, Edgy.

When fans decide they hate somebody, they tend to make something of everything he says that supports the narrative already established.

Fman99
Feb 13 2011 03:12 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 13 2011 07:23 PM

Do you expect me to pitch competently?



No, Mr. Perez. I expect you to DIE.

smg58
Feb 13 2011 06:09 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

I was all set to click "like" on that last post. Then I remembered this wasn't Facebook.

El Segundo Escupidor
Feb 14 2011 06:32 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Edgy DC wrote:
bmfc1 wrote:
I don't understand your post, Edgy.

When fans decide they hate somebody, they tend to make something of everything he says that supports the narrative already established.


I usually go to the comments pages on umdb to gauge the prevailing fan sentiment on players. They are quite revealing.

metirish
Feb 14 2011 06:37 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

I'll stick with what I wrote last year which I am sure was very optimistic, Ollie does that to me.

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2011 07:19 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Joel Sherman published the following cryptic tweet:

All Ollie Perez stories must cease now until one begins: The #Mets today released Ollie Perez ... #notinteresting


Which was cryptic enough that folks misinterpeted it to read that the Mets had, in fact, released Óliver Pérez, which they of course had not.

It was a small seismic tremor in the blogosphere. You could feel it if you were on a high floor.

MFS62
Feb 14 2011 08:19 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Oliver Perez

Edgy DC wrote:
Joel Sherman published the following cryptic tweet:

All Ollie Perez stories must cease now until one begins: The #Mets today released Ollie Perez ... #notinteresting


Which was cryptic enough that folks misinterpeted it to read that the Mets had, in fact, released Óliver Pérez, which they of course had not.

It was a small seismic tremor in the blogosphere. You could feel it if you were on a high floor.

Joel Sherman must love messing with the heads of Mets fans, sending a message that could be so easily misinterpreted..
Later

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2011 10:01 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

Óliver Pérez, goaded by reporters and blogs (along with Luis Castillo) for not reporting early, actualy reports early, and takes the the time to say a dozen postiive things to boot.

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 14 2011 10:05 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

Perez would not rule out becoming a relief pitcher.

"If they want to use me in the bullpen or for one inning, I don’t know," he said. "What’s more important for me is trying to be on the team and try to help the team, because I know the past few years we’ve had trouble winning the games."


I suspect that if Ollie knew he was healthy again, he wouldn't have said that.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 14 2011 11:17 AM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

Okay, this is a little funny.

“Dressed in a white warm-up suit,” David Lennon of Newsday explains, “he hopped out of the passenger side of a white Ford Expedition, walked up to the clubhouse door and pulled on the handle. It was locked.”

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2011 11:25 AM
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I'm intrigued by the white warmup suit.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 14 2011 11:26 AM
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There have to be matching accessories. But what kind?

Rockin' Doc
Feb 14 2011 02:01 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

My expectations for Perez are minimal. I will be pleasantly surprised if he can become a contributing member of the Mets in 2011. Any useful innings that the team can get out of him are a bonus in my mind.

El Segundo Escupidor
Feb 15 2011 03:00 AM
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My facial hair prediction was way off.

Ashie62
Feb 15 2011 07:30 AM
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Released final week of spring train complete with a great read Ollie rant.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 15 2011 01:04 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

New York Times wrote:
“I said, ‘Here’s my feelings,’ ” Collins said of the meeting. ” ’Maybe you need a fresh start. Maybe you need a different role.’ He said, ’Well, if that’s what you want me to do.’ I said: ’No, you have to want to do it. You have to buy into it. If you don’t, it’s not going to work. And so if you feel you want a shot, that you can make this club as a starter, then by God, you’re going to be given that opportunity. And then as we get into spring training we’ll see what the results will be.’ ”

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/1 ... -to-start/

I've already reached the point where, when I read Terry Collins' words, I hear his voice in my head. I don't get there with many people. I'm rather surprised to find out that I did get there with Terry.

Edgy MD
Feb 15 2011 01:16 PM
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I enjoy people who puncuate their comments with "By God."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 15 2011 01:20 PM
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Does Collins remind anyone else of a more-benevolent (so far) Hank's dad from King of the Hill?

G-Fafif
Feb 15 2011 01:29 PM
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Does Collins remind anyone else of a more-benevolent (so far) Hank's dad from King of the Hill?


Terry Collins: The Shinless wonder.

seawolf17
Feb 15 2011 01:33 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Does Collins remind anyone else of a more-benevolent (so far) Hank's dad from King of the Hill?

By God, he does!

Fman99
Feb 15 2011 07:53 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

seawolf17 wrote:
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Does Collins remind anyone else of a more-benevolent (so far) Hank's dad from King of the Hill?

By God, he does!


"Cotton" Collins. I love it.

By the way, Joel Sherman is a #fucking #retard.

Ceetar
Feb 15 2011 07:54 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

Fman99 wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Does Collins remind anyone else of a more-benevolent (so far) Hank's dad from King of the Hill?

By God, he does!


"Cotton" Collins. I love it.

By the way, Joel Sherman is a #fucking #retard.


yes. do i want to know what he said this time?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Feb 15 2011 09:45 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

Joel Sherman wrote:
All Ollie Perez stories must cease now until one begins: The #Mets today released Ollie Perez ... #notinteresting
=#004000]8:20 AM Feb 14th via ÜberTwitter

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 27 2011 05:55 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 27 2011 06:46 PM

Some quick notes from the Mets' 5-4 win today over Atlanta:

Chris Young looked good.

Oliver Perez did not....

After a decent first inning -- one run allowed on a hard-hit double and a well-placed singled -- Perez unraveled in his second inning. He walked three consecutive batters to load the bases and plate a run. Then he gave up a two-run single to a minor-leaguer named Shawn Bowman. A base-running error ended the inning and saved Perez.

http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/0 ... _runs.html

Expectations for the margarita machine have sunken so low that he's considered to have had a decent inning when he gives up a run on two hits.

MFS62
Feb 27 2011 06:32 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

Could also have said, "Former Mets minor leaguer Shawn Bowman".

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 23 2011 03:29 PM
Re: Expectations of Eleven: Óliver Pérez

3-4, 3.13 in Double A Harrisburg.