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Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Edgy DC
Feb 11 2011 11:25 AM

I don't know if we started another injury thread, but I couldn't find it despite many variations in my search parameters.

Anyhow, Johan is throwing.

metirish
Feb 11 2011 11:26 AM
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It should have been titled "Expectations of Eleven - Injuries"

TransMonk
Mar 22 2011 12:24 PM
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Per Metsblog, Angel Pagan left today's game with lower back pain.

Jason Bay moved to centerfield. Jason. Bay. Centerfield. Yikes!

Ceetar
Mar 22 2011 12:33 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
Per Metsblog, Angel Pagan left today's game with lower back pain.

Jason Bay moved to centerfield. Jason. Bay. Centerfield. Yikes!


Did play there some in 2005. Apparently Collins didn't want to give up the DH slot to move Harris there.

Hopefully lower back tightness isn't anything to worry about.




For completeness sake, Izzy had some tightness in his arm today. threw some curveballs today just fine and is expected to throw a bullpen tomorrow.

TransMonk
Mar 22 2011 12:37 PM
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Ah...forgot about Harris. I feel better now.

Ashie62
Mar 22 2011 06:44 PM
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Pagan has been tagged by Rotoworld as day-to-day.

Ceetar
Mar 22 2011 06:46 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Pagan has been tagged by Rotoworld as day-to-day.


Pass over him in the draft, I dare you.

Ashie62
Mar 22 2011 06:55 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
Pagan has been tagged by Rotoworld as day-to-day.


Pass over him in the draft, I dare you.


He is the highest rated Fantasy Met beyond Wright and Krod.

Edgy DC
Mar 22 2011 09:02 PM
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Beltran, while my bureau was busy writing him off for opening day, DH'd in two minor league games, going 2-8 with a homer.

Now all we have to do is join the American League.

The Second Spitter
Mar 22 2011 11:18 PM
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metirish
Mar 30 2011 04:03 PM
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The Mets will not announce until Thursday that Bay is going to the DL, what's the Logic there?

For good measure they will not place Santana on DL until Thursday either.

Ceetar
Mar 30 2011 04:12 PM
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metirish wrote:
The Mets will not announce until Thursday that Bay is going to the DL, what's the Logic there?

For good measure they will not place Santana on DL until Thursday either.


They'll do all there transactions in one go around I guess. Presumably Santana is headed to the 60day.

The way things are going, it's probably better this way. If someone trips on a crack and stubs a toe overnight and has to be DL'd, theynot have already set the roster yet.

Frayed Knot
Mar 30 2011 05:08 PM
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They can backdate the Bay DL to where he'll just miss a week and be back in time for the home opener.

That's all assuming he doesn't get hit by a train in the interim.

Ashie62
Mar 30 2011 05:47 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
They can backdate the Bay DL to where he'll just miss a week and be back in time for the home opener.

That's all assuming he doesn't get hit by a train in the interim.


That would be a quick heal for an oblique, lets hope!

metirish
Mar 31 2011 07:26 AM
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Bay to DL official , eligible to return April 9....

Ceetar
Mar 31 2011 07:33 AM
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metirish wrote:
Bay to DL official , eligible to return April 9....


I heard someone tweet last night that he's expected back sometime around then, that it's not serious, but I'm not sure who or if I trust them.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 31 2011 07:38 AM
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I'm having a hard time being too disturbed about Jason Bay missing a few weeks.

I know he's probably better than whoever they'll put out there, but is he significantly better? I have my doubts.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 31 2011 10:12 PM
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Paulino could use a visit from the Duke of Iron, it seems.

GM Sandy Alderson said Paulino diagnosed with anemia, taking medication, could be back as early as April 24. #mets
7 hours ago via TweetDeck

Edgy DC
Mar 31 2011 10:33 PM
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I'm a fan of our backup backup backstop, but if you take Mr. Nickeas' spring performance as having any meaning at all, you are scratching and scrambiling high and low for catching help right now.

Edgy DC
Apr 03 2011 02:35 PM
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Isringhausen gets pulled from an extended spring game with back issues. His career may end the way it started, with a repeating loop of rehab in St. Lucie.

Ashie62
Apr 03 2011 04:00 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Isringhausen gets pulled from an extended spring game with back issues. His career may end the way it started, with a repeating loop of rehab in St. Lucie.


Might be best for all...

The Second Spitter
Apr 06 2011 08:04 AM
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According to various sources:
- Bay won't be activate on Saturday:
- Paulino will probably be put on the DL on Saturday

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 06 2011 10:46 AM
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As per Waldstein (see "Inside Pitch" at the bottom), Isringhausen pitched a successful, ouchless inning in extended spring training.

Edgy DC
Apr 06 2011 10:54 AM
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Yeah, the Mets have bought some time, but they're still in their pickle now, with Niese and Parnell the only pitchers with options, and they're not going anywhere.

They could maybe trade Boyer or Buchholz, but it better be in a deal they like, because giving them up just for a roll of the dice with Izzy doesn't seem worth it.

Would they get anything for him if another team bites?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 06 2011 11:03 AM
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He's not actually under contract, is he?

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 06 2011 12:10 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I'm having a hard time being too disturbed about Jason Bay missing a few weeks.

I know he's probably better than whoever they'll put out there, but is he significantly better? I have my doubts.



Does anybody here still think of Jason Bay as the pre-Mets Jason Bay? The Jason Bay we imagined we were getting when we last signed him? Because if Bay still is, the Mets would have one heck of an offense.

Ceetar
Apr 06 2011 12:38 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I'm having a hard time being too disturbed about Jason Bay missing a few weeks.

I know he's probably better than whoever they'll put out there, but is he significantly better? I have my doubts.



Does anybody here still think of Jason Bay as the pre-Mets Jason Bay? The Jason Bay we imagined we were getting when we last signed him? Because if Bay still is, the Mets would have one heck of an offense.



Umm... I'm not willing to base my entire expectation of Jason Bay on a handful of months in 2010 and throw out the entire rest of the sample.

Yes, the Mets will have a heck of an offense when he returns. Not that they don't already, but Harris/Hairston/Duda are unlikely to keep producing at the rate of production LF has given us so far.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 06 2011 12:44 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Does anybody here still think of Jason Bay as the pre-Mets Jason Bay? The Jason Bay we imagined we were getting when we last signed him? Because if Bay still is, the Mets would have one heck of an offense.


I apparently don't. But there is the hope that he'll have a bounceback year, which could be a very good thing for the Mets. I'm just not terribly optimistic that it will play out that way.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 06 2011 12:46 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Does anybody here still think of Jason Bay as the pre-Mets Jason Bay? The Jason Bay we imagined we were getting when we last signed him? Because if Bay still is, the Mets would have one heck of an offense.


I apparently don't. But there is the hope that he'll have a bounceback year, which could be a very good thing for the Mets. I'm just not terribly optimistic that it will play out that way.



I don't know what to think. I'm just going to watch things unfold before my eyes and resist making a bet on either the over or under.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 06 2011 12:48 PM
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I'm from Missouri on Bay. Looked like absolute crap last year with a very slow bat. And I'm not encouraged that a plan to get him on track was abandoned (by him) this spring.

TransMonk
Apr 14 2011 08:03 AM
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F-Mart has hammy issue

Didn't see this one coming...

Edgy DC
Apr 14 2011 09:32 AM
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Young, rather than skipping a start, is being pushed back two days.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 14 2011 09:40 AM
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Since Jason Bay's return keeps getting pushed back (now it's practically May 1) I hope the Mets aren't still planning on carrying 13 pitchers until Bay is activated.

Give them a day or two to recover from today's doubleheader, and Carrasco's spot start, and then let's get back to 12.

Edgy DC
Apr 14 2011 09:57 AM
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I agree, but I think they were probably looking at the end of April when they made that declaration.

Also, if nobody's going to have the courtesy to get disabled, demoting a pitcher will be a challenge.

TransMonk
Apr 14 2011 10:00 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
...if nobody's going to have the courtesy to get disabled...

I'll volunteer Scott Hairston.

metirish
Apr 14 2011 10:02 AM
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TransMonk wrote:
F-Mart has hammy issue

Didn't see this one coming...



will he ever get going?

Edgy DC
Apr 15 2011 01:05 PM
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FernanDL Martinez placed on the seven-day.

Corresponding move is the activation of the former (for about nine minutes this spring) winner of the secondbase race, Luis Hernandez, from his extended springiness.

G-Fafif
Apr 15 2011 01:14 PM
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Paulino about to begin rehab stint with PSL.

Ashie62
Apr 15 2011 02:51 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
FernanDL Martinez placed on the seven-day.

Corresponding move is the activation of the former (for about nine minutes this spring) winner of the secondbase race, Luis Hernandez, from his extended springiness.


Heres a link on that for what it is worth...

[url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/04/former_top_prospect_fernando_m.html

MFS62
Apr 15 2011 08:49 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Paulino about to begin rehab stint with PSL.

He was pulled from tonight's game after 2 at bats.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... a_sluafa_1

Don't know if he was tiring from his anemia, got another injury, or it was just a platoon thing.

Later

Ashie62
Apr 16 2011 05:21 AM
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More on Chris Young. It does not appear he can pitch Sunday. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the D.L. to get someone up.

[url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/04/mets_chris_young_might_not_pit.html

Ceetar
Apr 16 2011 10:44 AM
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Young officially DL'd with the right bicep tendinitis (retroactive to I believe 4/9, which means eligible to return 4/26, Tuesday in Washington)

Misch recalled. not announced as Sundays starter. Still TBA, i imagine they're still considering Gee and Misch is just Carrasco depth.

Ashie62
Apr 16 2011 11:14 AM
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It is far too early for this shit.

metirish
Apr 16 2011 11:15 AM
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Good that Young is sent to the DL....no need to fuck around on this.

Edgy DC
Apr 16 2011 03:59 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
It is far too early for this shit.

It is the way of things, young grasshopper.

Ashie62
Apr 16 2011 05:06 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
It is far too early for this shit.

It is the way of things, young grasshopper.


I needed the laugh, thanks much.

Edgy DC
Apr 18 2011 09:16 PM
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Bay getting his seasoning in St. Loo, going 1-5 in his first two games back. He's expected to put in two more and return to the team Thursday.

Ceetar
Apr 18 2011 09:25 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Bay getting his seasoning in St. Loo, going 1-5 in his first two games back. He's expected to put in two more and return to the team Thursday.


Nixed in Buffalo because they didn't want to subject him to cold.

which is probably good, because it snowed there today and the game was canceled.

Ashie62
Apr 19 2011 05:07 AM
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I would have preferred they just keep Bay in NY rather than fly him to Florida to play two games.

metirish
Apr 19 2011 07:52 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
I would have preferred they just keep Bay in NY rather than fly him to Florida to play two games.


not finding much sense in that myself , could he not get the same swings in maybe with simulated pitching here in NY?

TransMonk
Apr 19 2011 07:54 AM
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He'll prolly bump his head on the overhead compartment of one of the plane rides and be out another six weeks with concussion-like symptoms.

Ceetar
Apr 19 2011 08:08 AM
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metirish wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
I would have preferred they just keep Bay in NY rather than fly him to Florida to play two games.


not finding much sense in that myself , could he not get the same swings in maybe with simulated pitching here in NY?


I think real life games are important. We saw what happened when Beltran and Castillo came back too fast after the break last year. or Reyes with no Spring.

seawolf17
Apr 19 2011 08:38 AM
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metirish wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
I would have preferred they just keep Bay in NY rather than fly him to Florida to play two games.


not finding much sense in that myself , could he not get the same swings in maybe with simulated pitching here in NY?

Simulated pitching here in NY? The other thread says that Philadelphia invented that.

TheOldMole
Apr 19 2011 09:30 AM
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Florida is not a long flight, and the plane tickets are not going to make much of a difference in the Wilpons' overhead.

Ceetar
Apr 19 2011 09:42 AM
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Florida is not a long flight, and the plane tickets are not going to make much of a difference in the Wilpons' overhead.


Actually they sent him back by bus to save costs: The Apple

MFS62
Apr 19 2011 10:08 PM
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From Rotoworld:
Bobby Parnell - R - Mets Bobby Parnell has been dealing with an issue with his right middle finger.
Team doctors have told the right-hander that it could be a desensitized nerve, but there hasn't been anything conclusive. Parnell has admitted that the ailment makes it hard for him to grip the baseball, which may help to explain his 6.14 ERA and 1.91 WHIP. He was able to appear in Tuesday's game, but it's not clear if the Mets might shut him down for a few days.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/5658/bobby-parnell
Later

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 20 2011 04:33 AM
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Sounds like he might be the guy to make room for Jason Bay.

Edgy DC
Apr 20 2011 05:25 AM
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It would seem to be for the best.

MFS62
Apr 20 2011 08:34 AM
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I don't see why he just can't use someone else's middle finger. Many fans have been giving him one all year.

Later

G-Fafif
Apr 20 2011 02:11 PM
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Parnell, rhymes with DL.

soupcan
Apr 20 2011 02:40 PM
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MFS62 wrote:
From Rotoworld:
Bobby Parnell - R - Mets Bobby Parnell has been dealing with an issue with his right middle finger.
Team doctors have told the right-hander that it could be a desensitized nerve, but there hasn't been anything conclusive. Parnell has admitted that the ailment makes it hard for him to grip the baseball, which may help to explain his 6.14 ERA and 1.91 WHIP. He was able to appear in Tuesday's game, but it's not clear if the Mets might shut him down for a few days.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/5658/bobby-parnell
Later


I say aneuryism.

Because why not?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 21 2011 08:26 PM
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Even in a laugher... Cripes.

Mets center fielder Angel Pagan left Thursday's game against the Astros with a pulled muscle in his left side, after running into second baseman Justin Turner on a popup in the fourth inning.

Chasing down Hunter Pence's pop to shallow left-center field, Turner backpedaled into Pagan's left side, forcing him to whirl out of the way of further contact. Though he stayed in the game for another two innings, Pagan gave way to a defensive replacement following his at-bat in the bottom of the fifth.

Edgy DC
Apr 21 2011 09:12 PM
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Well, we had a healthy offense for six innings, anyway.

Ceetar
Apr 21 2011 09:28 PM
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Gary said Parnell does not have an aneurysm, but a localized blood clot. He's taking asprin.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 22 2011 01:53 PM
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AAAAAUGH!

Angel Pagan will land on the disabled list before Friday's game. Jason Pridie will be activated and is in the lineup over Scott Hairston with the Diamondbacks using a left-handed starter.

G-Fafif
Apr 22 2011 01:53 PM
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And just when we were getting hot.

Edgy DC
Apr 22 2011 02:07 PM
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Really interesting to see who gets time in centerfield.

Ashie62
Apr 22 2011 02:25 PM
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Jeff Duncan has been re-signed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 04 2011 10:37 AM
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Johan "way ahead of schedule" in rehab. He's throwing and junk.

Ceetar
May 04 2011 01:54 PM
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Updating this..

Beato with tendinitis.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 06 2011 02:59 PM
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On the plus side, Chin-Lung Hu's job (as well as those of Harris, Hairston, and Pridie) is safe for the moment.

On the minus side...

LobbyMan wrote:
The plan to activate Angel Pagan from the disabled list on Saturday has been scrapped.

After playing a second full rehab game in the Florida State League on Thursday night, Pagan complained of pain with the strained left oblique that sent him to the disabled list on April 22, Terry Collins said.

Pagan was en route to New York to be examined by team doctors. Clearly, a recurrence of discomfort requires a shutdown period, meaning Pagan may now be at least a few weeks from returning.

"He played and said he's been feeling fine," Collins said. "And yesterday a couple of guys talked to him and he said he was feeling fine. Last night, after the game, he felt that he could swing. We were hoping he would be here [active] tomorrow. We just felt he wasn't ready for that, and that there was some discomfort and that ... tenderness."

Fman99
May 06 2011 03:34 PM
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Fuck.

soupcan
May 08 2011 11:11 AM
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Chris Young to the 15 day DL.

I like this guy and everything and he's good when he pitches but man, maybe he should just pack it in. Guy can't stay on the field.

Gwreck
May 08 2011 03:04 PM
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Per Rubin, MRI of Young's shoulder is not encouraging.

I still say it was a good signing. Low-cost, high-upside. At least we got a couple good starts out of him.

Edgy DC
May 08 2011 03:48 PM
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OK, Santana at least five weeks away, probably more like eight. Bonser down. Mejia down. Young looking down.

Rotation is Pelfrey-Dickey-Niese-Capuano-Gee.

If we need to keep digging, next up is Carrasco, I think. He's two starts into his conversion and still stretching. Schwinden is performing well, but I don't know if it's worth seeing as real.

Crazy, maybe, but I'm a-thinking Taylor Buchholz-type thougths.

Ceetar
May 08 2011 04:48 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
OK, Santana at least five weeks away, probably more like eight. Bonser down. Mejia down. Young looking down.

Rotation is Pelfrey-Dickey-Niese-Capuano-Gee.

If we need to keep digging, next up is Carrasco, I think. He's two starts into his conversion and still stretching. Schwinden is performing well, but I don't know if it's worth seeing as real.

Crazy, maybe, but I'm a-thinking Taylor Buchholz-type thougths.


Misch is probably a candidate there too. depth looking rather short, but no saying someone doesn't become available by trade somewhat soon.

metirish
May 08 2011 04:48 PM
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My sources on Twitter who have intimate knowledge of people within the Mets fanbase are saying that Young might have and they stress might on condition of anonymity has pitched his last game for the Mets.

soupcan
May 08 2011 05:18 PM
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Your 'sources'.

You crack me up you crazy old Mick, you.

Ashie62
May 08 2011 05:57 PM
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I didn't expect both Chris Young and Chris Capuano would stay healthy this season.

bmfc1
May 09 2011 09:03 AM
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Sherman says that Wright is hurt:

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/hardball/ ... evTs5gg3nJ

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 09 2011 09:06 AM
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He doesn;t make much of a case for the "injury" affecting performance.

I'm sure Wright is banged up a little every year.

metirish
May 09 2011 09:15 AM
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soupcan wrote:
Your 'sources'.

You crack me up you crazy old Mick, you.



never question "sources" , especially ones with intimate knowledge of things.....

Ceetar
May 09 2011 09:18 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
He doesn;t make much of a case for the "injury" affecting performance.

I'm sure Wright is banged up a little every year.



If it's true, and I could certainly see him being a little nicked up, it would've certainly behooved Collins to maybe give him a day off somewhere? Give him off Wednesday and let him have the back to back days off, or tell him not to swing or something. you know..rest the injury and let it heal? maybe?


I'm not yet worried about Wright. he's not exactly known for great Aprils. Remember his homerless, .244 avg April in 2007, a year that he finishd 4th in MVP voting and may have indeed won if the Mets didn't collapse?

metirish
May 09 2011 09:27 AM
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Ed Coleman thinks Wright just needs a blow..........all that swinging and missing probably has him banged up.

Benjamin Grimm
May 09 2011 09:29 AM
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Well, that's why there's a BJ's Clubhouse at Citi Field.

Ceetar
May 09 2011 11:36 AM
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Maybe he should ask Pridie to bring his girlfriend to work..

metsguyinmichigan
May 09 2011 03:39 PM
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Who is our back-up third-baseman? Hu? Murphy? Turner?

Ashie62
May 09 2011 04:41 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Well, that's why there's a BJ's Clubhouse at Citi Field.


Soon to be renamed "Fmans Clubhouse".

Gwreck
May 09 2011 04:58 PM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Who is our back-up third-baseman? Hu? Murphy? Turner?


Turner

G-Fafif
May 09 2011 06:25 PM
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Young done for 2011. Four games started, three of them pitched very well, two of them intensely memorable -- 3-for-3 hitting in one, providing backdrop for We Got Bin Laden announcement in the other.

$1.1 million. Nice work if you can get it.

Ashie62
May 09 2011 06:30 PM
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metirish wrote:
soupcan wrote:
Your 'sources'.

You crack me up you crazy old Mick, you.



never question "sources" , especially ones with intimate knowledge of things.....


like mistresses?

Nymr83
May 09 2011 09:13 PM
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Wright's been doing terrible hitting .240? but oh wait, if you are looking at more than just fantasy baseball stats, you'd see a .349 OBP entering play tonight and a BABIP 45 points lower than his career average... he's likely been as unlucky as he has been bad.

Ashie62
May 10 2011 05:41 AM
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Who brought up fantasy stats?

bmfc1
May 10 2011 07:38 AM
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metsguyinmichigan wrote:
Who is our back-up third-baseman? Hu? Murphy? Turner?


I was wondering that about 1B in case Ike got a day off. I think that Hu plays 3B and we know that Murphy can play 1B/3B. Wow!

Gwreck
May 10 2011 06:34 PM
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Rubin has reported that Turner will get the start at third tomorrow, weather permitting.

G-Fafif
May 10 2011 06:40 PM
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Gwreck wrote:
Rubin has reported that Turner will get the start at third tomorrow, weather permitting.


Murphy, actually, with Turner at second (if not snowed/rained out). Per Rubin in that link.

Gwreck
May 10 2011 06:45 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Gwreck wrote:
Rubin has reported that Turner will get the start at third tomorrow, weather permitting.


Murphy, actually, with Turner at second (if not snowed/rained out). Per Rubin in that link.


Huh. Maybe I was seeing things. I could've sworn I saw Rubin tweet Turner as well.

Edgy DC
May 10 2011 10:18 PM
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So, if Davis is hurt, do you call up a potential first basemen (Duda, Evans, or Pascucci) or a potential secondbaseman (Tejada, Hernandez, or Adams)?

Lucas Duda, 24 g: .241 / .354 / .398 // .751
Valentino Pascucci, 22 g: .230 / .373 / .361 // .734
Nick Evans, 30 g: .222 / .262 / .342 // .604

Ruben Tejada, 33 g: .281 / .348 / .438 // .785
Luis Hernandez, 25 g: .212 / .239 / .247 // .486
Russ Adams, 23 g: .180 / .296 / .246 //.542

Kind of narrows it down to a three-man question, doesn't it? Except (1) Tejada was intended to remain in Bufflao this year, (2) Pascucci isn't on the 40, and (3) Duda has had three chances (two this year) and been miserable.

TransMonk
May 11 2011 07:17 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

If it's my call, I give Evans a shot. But it's not my call.

Ceetar
May 11 2011 07:32 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

TransMonk wrote:
If it's my call, I give Evans a shot. But it's not my call.


Might be Duda just because it's been Duda. I'd go Evans. Wouldn't want to burn the option for Tejada. But it's looking like Ike thinks he can play. and he did stay in that inning so it's not horrible at least.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 11 2011 07:55 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

I'd give Ike the day off, 'twould be a 2-day rest and just let today's game be one of them to get the irregulars going.

Ike said he thought it was an achilles -- that's good because if he knew it was an achilles, we'd be looking at a few months at least.

TransMonk
May 11 2011 10:48 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Per Burkhardt's Twitter through Metsblog:

Ike Davis flying to NY to be looked at by team Drs....

Centerfield
May 11 2011 07:28 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Yikes Davis.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 11 2011 08:15 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

I bet he has a strained Ike-chilles tendon. Week or two of rest if it's not serious.

Edgy DC
May 11 2011 08:22 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

I suppose they could call up an outfielder and treat Harris as a backup infielder.

Ashie62
May 11 2011 08:57 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Heyman tweeting Fmart not in the Buffalo lineup tonight and may get the call if Ike goes on the DL.

I'm gonna say Ike out one month..goodnight 2011 Mets.

MFS62
May 11 2011 09:37 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Nymr83 wrote:
Wright's been doing terrible hitting .240? but oh wait, if you are looking at more than just fantasy baseball stats, you'd see a .349 OBP entering play tonight and a BABIP 45 points lower than his career average... he's likely been as unlucky as he has been bad.

And now he runs into Davis and injures him?
Are we sure Wright isn't being secretly paid by evil forces to sabotage the Mets' season?
Later

Ceetar
May 11 2011 09:42 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Edgy DC wrote:
I suppose they could call up an outfielder and treat Harris as a backup infielder.


Harris absolutely sucks. Do we trust Turner as the everyday second baseman? I might be okay with it..but I'm definitely not okay with lots of Hu/Harris starts.

bmfc1
May 12 2011 04:41 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Rubin says that F. Martinez is on the way so, unless he gets hurt getting on or off the plane, he'll join the Mets in Denver if Ike goes on the DL.

Edgy DC
May 12 2011 05:10 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Ceetar wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
I suppose they could call up an outfielder and treat Harris as a backup infielder.


Harris absolutely sucks. Do we trust Turner as the everyday second baseman? I might be okay with it..but I'm definitely not okay with lots of Hu/Harris starts.

I'm familiar with Harris' failures. That's why I wonder out loud if they might want to get an outfielder that might take some big at-bats away from him and knock his profile down.

bmfc1 wrote:
Rubin says that F. Martinez is on the way so, unless he gets hurt getting on or off the plane, he'll join the Mets in Denver if Ike goes on the DL.

I'm saying.

Ceetar
May 12 2011 05:53 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

I meant using Harris as an infielder. he hasn't been getting many OF starts thanks to Pridie being okay. So is Fernando really coming up to be primary Lefty off the bench or is he going to play CF? or not at all and this is a bogus rumor/Ike will be okay?

Edgy DC
May 12 2011 06:55 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Well, ideally, he won't be used much at all. I imagine there wouldn't be much need for any but the odd apperance in the infield for him. Look at it as Turner and Murphy getting their chance to shine. If Fernando takes Harris's day-game starts and maybe a few spots here and there in center, we can turn a shit deal into an opportunity.

Davis hurt stinks, but Davis hurt and all his plate appearances going to going-nowhere vets stinks more.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 12 2011 09:46 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Official: Ike to DL (ankle sprain, bone bruise) Fartinez in Denver.

TransMonk
May 12 2011 10:04 AM
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HahnSolo
May 12 2011 10:26 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

So will it be Murph at 1B for the time being? I think it would be better keep him at 2B than to move him. But I'm not sure what our other 1B options are now that they've opted to bring up Fmart.

TransMonk
May 12 2011 10:27 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Yeah, I would have preferred Evans.

Edgy DC
May 12 2011 10:44 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

We need to see Fernando get as many MLB reps in as possible this season, i think.

smg58
May 12 2011 11:36 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

I don't like F-Mart being here to sit on the bench. Evans would have made more sense. If he plays poorly he'd clear waivers again, and if he doesn't play poorly Scott Hairston would clear waivers.

G-Fafif
May 12 2011 11:37 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Couldn't they claim Ike's leg had a concussion and then stick him on the 7-day DL?

Ceetar
May 12 2011 11:38 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

smg58 wrote:
I don't like F-Mart being here to sit on the bench. Evans would have made more sense. If he plays poorly he'd clear waivers again, and if he doesn't play poorly Scott Hairston would clear waivers.


His plane isn't even due to land until 1, there's weather issues that could delay it and the game.

Hopefully he's the 'regular' starter. or something.

I'm just depressed. and now Ike's not even going to be back in 13 days? *sigh*

Ashie62
May 12 2011 11:46 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

This team just plain sucks ass.

Ike & Jose excluded.

Edgy DC
May 12 2011 11:50 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

That doesn't advance anything.

I'm sure that either Martinez will get some meaningful work or be returned in a prompt manner. The way Terry manages this team, it's hard to see him not getting some chances.

TransMonk
May 12 2011 01:02 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Ashie62 wrote:
This team just plain sucks ass.

Ike & Jose excluded.

El Está Aquí

Ashie62
May 12 2011 01:10 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

TransMonk wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
This team just plain sucks ass.

Ike & Jose excluded.

El Está Aquí



Oops..big omission!

G-Fafif
May 14 2011 11:54 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Beltran scratched from Saturday lineup because his right eye is burning.

No, I'm not making this up.

Edgy DC
May 14 2011 12:55 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

That's a shame, as we could've used a righthanded bat against Happ. Hairston will probably get a start in right, and Paulino catching, leaving the team with Pridie, Harris, or Fartinez in center and Murphy at first.

G-Fafif
May 14 2011 01:11 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Batting Seventh:
Scott Hairston - CF

Batting Eighth:
Fernando Martinez - RF

G-Fafif
May 14 2011 01:18 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Per Andy McCullough:

Carlos Beltran awoke this morning with swelling in his right eye, enough to remove him from the lineup for today’s game against Houston. “It just burns,” he explained, his eye glassy, before heading for more treatment. Beltran is expected to be checked out by doctors.
That altered Terry Collins’ plans and shuffled one of Friday night’s heroes, Fernando Martinez, into the lineup.
***
Two injury notes:
1. Angel Pagan (strained oblique) is expected to resume baseball activity today in Port St. Lucie, Fla.
2. Pedro Beato (elbow tendinitis) is traveling to meet Triple-A Buffalo to continue his rehab.

Benjamin Grimm
May 16 2011 06:38 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Here's something that at least sounds like good news...

Optimistic Davis set to begin rehab on ankle
By Anthony DiComo / MLB.com | 05/16/11 7:46 PM ET

NEW YORK -- Ike Davis was no longer walking with a heavy limp Monday, nor sporting a heavy plastic boot on his left foot. Briefly reuniting with his teammates at Citi Field, Davis was scheduled to fly down to Florida on Monday evening to begin his rehab from a sprained left ankle, with the goal of returning to the Mets when he is eligible on May 26.

"He told me he'll be ready on the 26th," manager Terry Collins said. "But only time will tell. Once he starts resuming his baseball activities, we'll see how that ankle responds."

After the ankle began healing and the fears of a more serious injury subsided, Davis became confident in a speedy return following his infield collision with David Wright last week. The first baseman said Monday that he is "going to be playing for sure" when he is eligible to come off the DL next week in Chicago, and Collins expressed similar optimism. "Being in your apartment by yourself all day is not fun," Davis said.

His next step involves a rehab program at the team's Spring Training complex in Port St. Lucie, Fla., which may or may not include Minor League games.

Given that Wright appears headed to the disabled list with his own back injury, Davis' speedy recovery has become even more important for the Mets, who need his thump in the middle of their lineup. Prior to the injury, Davis was hitting .302 with seven home runs and 25 RBIs.

"I knew it wasn't that bad," Davis said of his injury. "I just don't like missing time. It's not what I'm here to do."

Edgy DC
May 16 2011 09:33 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

I can't believe Terry used a press-release corporatespeak phrase like "resuming baseball activities" in actual conversation.

Edgy DC
May 19 2011 08:21 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Pagan is an encouraging 1-3 with a walk and a homer in his first rehab game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 19 2011 08:39 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Here's something that at least sounds like good news...

Optimistic Davis set to begin rehab on ankle
By Anthony DiComo / MLB.com | 05/16/11 7:46 PM ET

NEW YORK -- Ike Davis was no longer walking with a heavy limp Monday, nor sporting a heavy plastic boot on his left foot. Briefly reuniting with his teammates at Citi Field, Davis was scheduled to fly down to Florida on Monday evening to begin his rehab from a sprained left ankle, with the goal of returning to the Mets when he is eligible on May 26.

"He told me he'll be ready on the 26th," manager Terry Collins said. "But only time will tell. Once he starts resuming his baseball activities, we'll see how that ankle responds."

After the ankle began healing and the fears of a more serious injury subsided, Davis became confident in a speedy return following his infield collision with David Wright last week. The first baseman said Monday that he is "going to be playing for sure" when he is eligible to come off the DL next week in Chicago, and Collins expressed similar optimism. "Being in your apartment by yourself all day is not fun," Davis said.

His next step involves a rehab program at the team's Spring Training complex in Port St. Lucie, Fla., which may or may not include Minor League games.

Given that Wright appears headed to the disabled list with his own back injury, Davis' speedy recovery has become even more important for the Mets, who need his thump in the middle of their lineup. Prior to the injury, Davis was hitting .302 with seven home runs and 25 RBIs.

"I knew it wasn't that bad," Davis said of his injury. "I just don't like missing time. It's not what I'm here to do."


Yeah, Tracky today quotes Terry expressing doubt that his return is gonna be as quick as we'd like.

Edgy DC
May 27 2011 07:00 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

The Streakin' Puerto Rican back in the lineup today.

Be ready to play, Angel.

Ceetar
May 27 2011 07:19 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Edgy DC wrote:
The Streakin' Puerto Rican back in the lineup today.

Be ready to play, Angel.


Hasn't it felt like everytime we've gotten a major player back we lose one? Bay back, Pagan gone. Pagan back, Dickey gone?

Yeah, Dickey's walking around in a book. supposedly they've ruled out the Achilles but it still doesn't sound good.

Benjamin Grimm
May 27 2011 07:32 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

He's walking around in a book? Suddenly he's Christopher Robin?

Ceetar
May 27 2011 07:45 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
He's walking around in a book? Suddenly he's Christopher Robin?


I was thinking Gumby.

Actually the knuckleball delivery does have a little Pokey to it no?


If I correct it to walking around in a boot will you make a Mother Goose joke and an old lady who lived in a shoe..?

Edgy DC
May 27 2011 08:04 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

I had no idea what you mean.

The boot is sometimes more intimidating than it needs to be. Sometimes it's serious, but sometimes it's a major prop for a minor injury. Is it his pushoff foot or his landing foot that he hurt?

G-Fafif
May 27 2011 01:48 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

R.A. day to day with with plantar fascia partly torn.

Ashie62
Jun 04 2011 04:31 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Wright out another 3 wees at least before baseball activities per Knobler CBS.

[url]http://danny-knobler.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/8590096/29778867

The hits just keep on coming.

metirish
Jun 09 2011 02:34 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Joba with torn ligaments in his elbow, Tommy john says Girardi, a real doc has yet to confirm that.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 09 2011 03:14 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Not that you root for injuries or anything but what have the Joba Rules produced other than preventing the MFYs from using this guy before he was an overweight alcoholic and his arm was live? Idiots.

Fman99
Jun 09 2011 03:16 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

G-Fafif wrote:
Batting Seventh:
Scott Hairston - CF


The next time I see Harris or Hairston's name I hope it's followed by the phrase "Designated for Assignment." Throw these guys out with the fucking old magazines.

metsmarathon
Jun 09 2011 08:58 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

metirish wrote:
Joba with torn ligaments in his elbow, Tommy john says Girardi, a real doc has yet to confirm that.


hmm. i happen to know of a good, proven reliever they could probably use...

Edgy DC
Jun 09 2011 09:00 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Could we keep Joba out of this thread and away from our rehabbing players?

attgig
Jun 13 2011 03:46 PM
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setback for johan. he stopped throwing off the mound:
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/ ... id=6658027


PITTSBURGH -- New York Mets left-hander Johan Santana stopped throwing off a mound 10 days ago after "soreness" in his surgically repaired left shoulder surfaced when he increased the intensity of his delivery, general manager Sandy Alderson said Monday.

Alderson said Santana has resumed long-tossing on flat ground and hoped to return to a mound later this week.

Santana is working back from Sept. 14 surgery to repair a torn anterior capsule in his left shoulder.

Alderson said the Mets will be prudent with Santana this season. After all, the left-hander is owed $24 million next season and $25.5 million in 2013. The Mets have a $25 million team option for 2014 that otherwise requires a $5.5 million buyout.

"The nice thing is, as we speak today, our starting rotation is doing nicely," Alderson said. "In that sense the pressure to get him back earlier doesn't exist. Tomorrow, that could change completely. But, I think the other thing is, we're looking at Johan long term here, not short term. So he's got to be right."

Alderson did not pinpoint a timetable for Santana's return to the majors under the assumption the left-hander can progress smoothly from the June 3 setback with no other hiccups. But Alderson did note that Santana has not yet started what would be considered the beginning of the spring training program that pitchers begin in mid-February to prepare for Opening Day.

"We are now trying to get him to the point at which he would be beginning his spring training," Alderson said. "The thought process now is that we need to get him to the point where he would have been on the 14th of February. And from that point he will proceed with his spring training, which could last as long as spring training typically does. ... Once he's thrown off the mound (again), he needs to do it more than once without discomfort in order for us to feel that, OK, we're at Feb. 14."

Adam Rubin covers the Mets for ESPNNewYork.com.

TransMonk
Jun 17 2011 10:20 AM
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http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/p ... ith-injury

The URL says is all.

metirish
Jun 17 2011 10:29 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

An arthritic right knee at 22 isn't good obviously, I feel for the kid really.

Ceetar
Jun 22 2011 02:39 PM
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I don't get it, a small collision and you twist your ankle weirdly going down, bruise your ankle to the bone and may need _microfracture_ surgery. How crazy unfortunate.

Davis' bone bruise is still not healing. reevaluate in 3 weeks.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 22 2011 02:43 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Fuck Ike Davis and his fucking pussy slow-healing, easily-injured fucking foot.

Ceetar
Jun 22 2011 02:45 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Fuck Ike Davis and his fucking pussy slow-healing, easily-injured fucking foot.



It might be faster just to cut the damn thing off and have him grown a new one.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 22 2011 02:47 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Swear to god, if this is the guy at age 24, we oughta give up now.

Edgy DC
Jun 22 2011 02:49 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Fuck Ike Davis and his fucking pussy slow-healing, easily-injured fucking foot.

I strongly suspect there's something more to it than him being slow-healing pussy.

Well, anyways, we got what our chatmaster wouldn't tell us yesterday.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 27 2011 01:06 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

So... Niese shows signs of heat exhaustion and has heartbeat irregularities, so they take him out of the game almost immediately. (I'd quibble with that "almost," but still... nothing supergross about Mets management's conduct, probably.)

And it's okay, no big thing... because he's getting examined three days later, after doing his normal running yesterday, without anyone monitoring him. Wait, WHAT?

Hate to say it, but I'm with Rubin on this.

You can botch treatment for obliques and ankles, but why take any chances with a heart issue? Wasn't a change in the front office supposed to inject some common sense into the equation?

The likelihood is Niese has nothing severe. Saturday's rapid heartbeat may even have been induced by the mid-90s heat. But Niese said he had experienced the issue before on the mound, even in cooler climates.

Is it really sane -- even if there is an infinitesimally small chance of it being more severe -- to have Niese wait three full days for an exhaustive exam?


Misdiagnosing fractures is frustrating, but not taking precautions with a (recurrent?) HEART issue is borderline criminal.

Ceetar
Jun 27 2011 01:12 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

he was examined, just not 'intensively'.

Do you then break a guy out of his routine for the sake of some tests? If he then bombed his next start as a result of not running or throwing a side session or whatever?

It seems worse because it's the first we are hearing of this, but it's not the first the Mets are hearing of it.

I'm not a doctor, and i'm not going to pretend to play one. I'm certainly not going to suggest the Mets should always go the conservative route because of previous PR disasters, some warranted, some not. They sent him to one doctor. they talked to him, they talked to trainers. They discussed it (and I believe some beat writers got all in a fit when the Mets wouldn't immediately release information, instead waiting to get together on it..) and proceeded with everyone on the same page. I'm not sure I can really ask for more than that.

Edgy DC
Jun 27 2011 01:16 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

He's just a coffee freak.

Ruby Dubin wrote:
Why can't the Mets, just this once, take the most conservative path with a health issue?


I think they've taken plenty of conservative paths. Plenty of wrong ones, but plenty of conservative ones.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 27 2011 01:28 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Tracky got on them for the heart thingy too.

Me, I want my athletes worked out to a minute of their lives.

metirish
Jun 27 2011 01:36 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Some of the best hospitals in the country are in Dallas, he could have seen a cardiologist there.I would have to assume they did routine EKG on him though.

Ceetar
Jun 27 2011 01:39 PM
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if SNY doesn't have Niese's current heart rate up on the scoreboard next start the Mets are lost.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 27 2011 01:41 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Do you then break a guy out of his routine for the sake of some tests? If he then bombed his next start as a result of not running or throwing a side session or whatever?


If you haven't already? Yes. Because it's not his wrist or his hammy; IT'S HIS FUCKING HEART.

Ceetar
Jun 27 2011 01:43 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
Do you then break a guy out of his routine for the sake of some tests? If he then bombed his next start as a result of not running or throwing a side session or whatever?


If you haven't already? Yes. Because it's not his wrist or his hammy; IT'S HIS FUCKING HEART.


Maybe they should put him on the 60-DL, just to be safe.

Vic Sage
Jun 27 2011 02:49 PM
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It's getting to the point where, everytime i read anything you post, i want to rip my eyes out of my head.

By the way, whenever my kids now say anything that makes me roll my eyes like a pair of dice coming up box cars, i just call their comment "Ceetarded". They don't get it, but they laugh. I just sigh.

Ceetar
Jun 27 2011 02:50 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:
It's getting to the point where, everytime i read anything you post, i want to rip my eyes out of my head.

By the way, whenever my kids now say anything that makes me roll my eyes like a pair of dice coming up box cars, i just call their comment "Ceetarded". They don't get it, but they laugh. I just sigh.


who are you again?

Chad Ochoseis
Jun 30 2011 07:45 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Not an injury, but Trey Harris (Mrs. Willie) went into premature labor and Willie is taking some paternity leave. FMart to be called up as a replacement.

And Willie, like everyone else, was just starting to get on base.

Best of luck to the new mom and dad, but when I hear the name "Trey", this is who I think of:

Edgy DC
Jun 30 2011 07:48 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Not an injury, but Trey Harris (Mrs. Willie) went into premature labor and Willie is taking some paternity leave. FMart to be called up as a replacement.


I'm Edgy DC, and I endorse this message.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 30 2011 08:53 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Tracky noted his wife was in labor "several months early" -- hope all is OK for the Harrises.

TransMonk
Jun 30 2011 09:10 AM
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Jeez...how many is several? Best wishes to the Harris family.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 30 2011 09:12 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Not an injury, but Trey Harris (Mrs. Willie) went into premature labor and Willie is taking some paternity leave. FMart to be called up as a replacement.

And Willie, like everyone else, was just starting to get on base.

Best of luck to the new mom and dad, but when I hear the name "Trey", this is who I think of:



Funny. I think "GIVE ME THE MOTHERF*CKING GUN, TREY!"



Can't see any online mention of previous kids (although there's plenty of his and Trey's volunteer work). Anyone know if this is their first?

Ceetar
Jun 30 2011 09:14 AM
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TransMonk wrote:
Jeez...how many is several? Best wishes to the Harris family.


5 months pregnant. They lost it.

TransMonk
Jun 30 2011 09:15 AM
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http://www.metsblog.com/2011/06/30/will ... -her-baby/

Damn. That truly is depressing.

Edgy DC
Jun 30 2011 09:16 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Terrible.

MFS62
Jun 30 2011 09:19 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

I know what they are going through.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

Later

attgig
Jun 30 2011 09:20 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Jeez...how many is several? Best wishes to the Harris family.


5 months pregnant. They lost it.


:(

life really is painful sometimes...

smg58
Jun 30 2011 10:44 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Some things are bigger than baseball. I've spent the past nine months getting first-hand experience with pregnancy, and I can fully appreciate how alive the child is to the parents at that stage.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 30 2011 10:49 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

You a new parent smg? Congrats. Terrible news for Willie meantime.

metirish
Jun 30 2011 10:52 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

smg58 wrote:
Some things are bigger than baseball. I've spent the past nine months getting first-hand experience with pregnancy, and I can fully appreciate how alive the child is to the parents at that stage.


nothing can prepare for how stressful pregnancy is....

devastating for Willie and family , truly sorry for them.

smg58
Jun 30 2011 11:08 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
You a new parent smg? Congrats. Terrible news for Willie meantime.


Not yet, but hopefully within days. Harris' situation is indeed terrible. I'm sorry if I inserted something personal that I haven't talked about here at an inappropriate time; it's just that I'm going through all those anxieties and fears right now, and this hits really close to home.

Edgy DC
Jun 30 2011 11:29 AM
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No need. The real personal stuff is the Harrises. You want to volunteer your (happier, I trust) situation for context, you go ahead.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 30 2011 11:37 AM
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Damn.

bmfc1
Jul 01 2011 02:38 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

AdamRubinESPN Adam Rubin
Taylor Buchholz has been diagnosed with depression/anxiety and will be on DL for "foreseeable future."

Edgy DC
Jul 01 2011 02:50 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

I think I'm right there with you, Taylor.

Ashie62
Jul 01 2011 03:01 PM
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Heartbreaking. Maybe they can summon up to try again one day.

metirish
Jul 01 2011 03:50 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Heartbreaking is right, I can't imagine going through this in public.

MFS62
Jul 01 2011 08:23 PM
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metirish wrote:
Heartbreaking is right, I can't imagine going through this in public.

I remember Tony Horton, a good young first baseman for the Indians.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... to01.shtml
He had similar problems and went into psychiatric care. Unfortunately, he never made a comeback.
I wish better things for Taylor.
But you never know.

Later

Rockin' Doc
Jul 02 2011 07:32 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

The player that always comes to mind regarding players battling neuropsychiatric disorders is [url]http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/e/eisenji01.shtml Jim Eisenreich. He was a very good player, that had his career sidetracked by Tourettes Syndrome. His symptoms were intensified by being before large crowds (an obvious problem for a major leaguer) and were severe enough to force his retirment in 1984 at age 25. He eventually was able to return to baseball in 1987 and had a long and successful career.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 04 2011 06:19 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Adam Rubin has a few updates:

Adam Rubin wrote:
"As I just told him [Jose Reyes] earlier today, and as I said the other day, to get him for one game tonight or tomorrow and then lose him for three weeks is just stupid," Collins said. "I'm going to watch him run 100 percent before he gets back in there."

Also on the injury front with the Mets, third baseman David Wright, who is working his way back into playing shape from a lower-back stress fracture, will wait until next week to enter official minor league rehab games. Collins previously had floated later this week as a possible date for minor league games. The organization opted to proceed more cautiously with ramping up baseball activities since Wright has largely been idle for six weeks following the discovery of the stress fracture.

"They don't want to push him too hard," Collins said. "... You're talking about a guy that hasn't run in six weeks. We've got to get his legs back underneath him before a lot of stuff takes place."

First baseman Ike Davis will wait until next week to seriously test his left ankle running. Davis is at home in the Phoenix area. If discomfort related to cartilage damage resurfaces when Davis attempts to run, Davis likely will have season-ending surgery.

"Ike is progressing better," Collins said. "Now that he is out of the boot, he actually is getting more flexibility in the ankle, feeling better."

Left-hander Johan Santana again threw off a mound in Port St. Lucie, Fla., Monday. Wright stood in the batter's box and tracked pitches at one point. Alderson had indicated Santana would begin a spring-training-like regimen once he had thrown a pair of mound sessions without discomfort in his surgically repaired left shoulder. Santana had thrown off a mound last Wednesday as well, so that process may be ready to begin.

TransMonk
Jul 04 2011 06:27 PM
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Adam Rubin wrote:
Left-hander Johan Santana again threw off a mound in Port St. Lucie, Fla., Monday. Wright stood in the batter's box and tracked pitches at one point.

Ugh. This would sound great if this were April. But it sucks that it's July.

Ashie62
Jul 04 2011 08:12 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
Adam Rubin wrote:
Left-hander Johan Santana again threw off a mound in Port St. Lucie, Fla., Monday. Wright stood in the batter's box and tracked pitches at one point.

Ugh. This would sound great if this were April. But it sucks that it's July.


I think we can forget Johan for 2011.

Ashie62
Jul 04 2011 08:14 PM
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MFS62 wrote:
Heartbreaking is right, I can't imagine going through this in public.

I remember Tony Horton, a good young first baseman for the Indians.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... to01.shtml
He had similar problems and went into psychiatric care. Unfortunately, he never made a comeback.
I wish better things for Taylor.
But you never know.

Later


Horton..done at age 25 and his last season was strong.

They didn't have decent AD Meds back then..too bad..

Ceetar
Jul 04 2011 10:22 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
TransMonk wrote:
Adam Rubin wrote:
Left-hander Johan Santana again threw off a mound in Port St. Lucie, Fla., Monday. Wright stood in the batter's box and tracked pitches at one point.

Ugh. This would sound great if this were April. But it sucks that it's July.


I think we can forget Johan for 2011.


Why? It seems like most of you don't believe in the Mets anyway, so why not have Johan throwing 'rehab' games in the major leagues in September? (And right now we're talking about 6 weeks or so, which is actually closer to the middle of August. )

Regardless, you don't get better by being idle. This is more rehab than recovery, in that he needs to build up muscles and arm strength and get his shoulder and all related throwing muscles back into shape.

Edgy DC
Jul 05 2011 05:39 AM
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Please don't let Ashie speak for most of us.

metirish
Jul 05 2011 06:56 AM
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The news on Wright is hardly encouraging if you were hoping he'd be back in July.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 05 2011 07:33 AM
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If he starts playing minor league rehab games next week, I don't see any reason (barring a setback) that he won't be back in July.

metirish
Jul 05 2011 07:34 AM
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But he's not even running yet right?

Edgy DC
Jul 05 2011 07:42 AM
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Running isn't that big a deal. You're a young athlete and you can get your legs in shape in a week or so. You can even DH while still getting back into gameshape. My greater concern is the torque of swinging a bat and it's effect on the back.

Ceetar
Jul 05 2011 07:44 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
If he starts playing minor league rehab games next week, I don't see any reason (barring a setback) that he won't be back in July.


guess it depends where he plays. some of the minor leaguers have off M-W too.

metirish
Jul 05 2011 07:46 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Running isn't that big a deal. You're a young athlete and you can get your legs in shape in a week or so. You can even DH while still getting back into gameshape. My greater concern is the torque of swinging a bat and it's effect on the back.



um OK.


um OK sounds like a dick.....


you really think that him not running is not that big of a deal?

I'm thinking that he's not doing any of the other stuff until he does that.

Edgy DC
Jul 05 2011 07:54 AM
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Are you thinking that running could re-injure the back?

metirish
Jul 05 2011 08:16 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Are you thinking that running could re-injure the back?




not really thinking that but it's a thought , to me it just seems fundamental that running is a first step in recovery, and with the nature of his injury running hard would seem a requirement.

Edgy DC
Jul 05 2011 08:33 AM
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It depends on the injury. I imagine Johan Santana, for instance, was running months before he picked up a ball. But it's not like his leg was hurt here. They just needed to restrict running to keep the impact off the back.

We'll see.

Centerfield
Jul 05 2011 08:50 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Heartbreaking. Maybe they can summon up to try again one day.


It helps to have the support of loving family and friends to fall back on.

Those who have been posting here for a while know that this hits very close to home for me. Every healthy child is a miracle. We should never forget that.

Every couple's situation is different, but I hope they do try again some day. Then proceed to spoil that baby like it's no one's business.

MFS62
Jul 06 2011 08:44 AM
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Albert Pujols - off the 15 day DL (broken wrist) and may begin playing soon.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=A ... ors_070511
Is MLB testing for HGH these days?

Later

Ashie62
Jul 06 2011 12:22 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Please don't let Ashie speak for most of us.


I personally endorse this message.

It looks to me like the timetable for Santana returning would be so late in August that caution until 2012 might be the best option.

Ceetar
Jul 06 2011 12:27 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Please don't let Ashie speak for most of us.


I personally endorse this message.

It looks to me like the timetable for Santana returning would be so late in August that caution until 2012 might be the best option.


I think the information that can be gained by Santana pitching for a month about his arm strength and ability is extremely valuable about the 2012 construction of the team.

I've got a post written and scheduled for tomorrow morning where I suggest he pitch out of the bullpen actually.

Edgy DC
Jul 06 2011 12:29 PM
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I'm sure we'll know a lot more about what he's capable of after a few rehab games.

And yes, I do think it's worthwhile.

attgig
Jul 06 2011 12:42 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Please don't let Ashie speak for most of us.


I personally endorse this message.

It looks to me like the timetable for Santana returning would be so late in August that caution until 2012 might be the best option.


I think the information that can be gained by Santana pitching for a month about his arm strength and ability is extremely valuable about the 2012 construction of the team.

I've got a post written and scheduled for tomorrow morning where I suggest he pitch out of the bullpen actually.



I kinda agree with the pen thought, provided santana is good with it. we could use a reliable lefty out of the pen.

Ashie62
Jul 06 2011 01:42 PM
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Would you want Santana warming up a few days a week in the pen???

Ceetar
Jul 06 2011 01:47 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Would you want Santana warming up a few days a week in the pen???


You'd figure out a specific plan with him. You wouldn't warm him up without bringing him in.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 06 2011 01:52 PM
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Giving him a few bullpen appearances in lieu of a minor league rehab start or two may be okay, as long as it's a step towards returning him to the big league rotation.

If the Mets are going to hang in the Wild Card race, they will want Santana starting. And if they don't, then he might as well start. Meaningless starts are better for him, I would think, than meaningless relief appearances.

Ceetar
Jul 06 2011 02:02 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Giving him a few bullpen appearances in lieu of a minor league rehab start or two may be okay, as long as it's a step towards returning him to the big league rotation.

If the Mets are going to hang in the Wild Card race, they will want Santana starting. And if they don't, then he might as well start. Meaningless starts are better for him, I would think, than meaningless relief appearances.


I'm not so sure about that. I think what he needs is merely to do it. I'm not sure he needs "starts" or "50 IP" or anything. Just apperances in which he warms up, throws the ball at the plate, and feels fine the next day.

Can't rely on him for anything, so I'm not qutie sure if the Mets are in a playoff race of some kind that you can/should shove him into the rotation and demand he pitch like an Ace. Should the Mets be allowing him to throw 100 pitches? 110? He's at 88 throw 6. Pull him? what if he's at 107 with 1 out and a runner on first and second with a 4-2 lead in the 7th? Push him? Pull him?

In the bullpen you get a better chance at controlling when and how long he's going to pitch. "You've got the first inning after the starter today" and put him out there. Or have him close out the game. If the Mets are in it, I'm not sure a 5IP "rehab-like" start from Santana forcing extra bullpen innings is a good idea either.

Edgy DC
Jul 06 2011 02:02 PM
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Starts can be scheduled as well. If the Mets are in any semblance of a competition, the stituaton wil dictate usage, and that would help nobiddy.

I think we're overthinking this.

Ceetar
Jul 06 2011 02:12 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Starts can be scheduled as well. If the Mets are in any semblance of a competition, the stituaton wil dictate usage, and that would help nobiddy.

I think we're overthinking this.


well, actually I overthunk it last night and wrote a post about it. Now I'm just reiterating my overthinking istead of working. semantics really...

Basically was just wondering if it's really worth trying to build up Johan's arm strength to 100 pitches for a handful of starts.

Edgy DC
Jul 06 2011 02:16 PM
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He can start and pitch like spring training, 30-40-50.... And he'll stay on schedule, disrupting neither him nor the team.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 07 2011 04:00 AM
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Adam Rubin wrote:

Reyes Likely Headed to DL

The New York Mets put the wheels in motion toward placing shortstop Jose Reyes on the disabled list late Wednesday. Team officials arranged for corner infielder/outfielder Nick Evans to fly to Los Angeles from Triple-A Buffalo, multiple team sources told ESPNNewYork.com.

Reyes strained his left hamstring Saturday against the Yankees. After taking ground balls and working on a stationary bicycle and treadmill earlier this week, Reyes was unable to do any physical activity on Wednesday at Dodger Stadium, the shortstop said. A team official said a firm decision to place Reyes on the disabled list would not be made until Reyes arrives at the ballpark Thursday and is unable to run, which is the expected scenario.

"I didn't do anything today. ... Probably tomorrow I don't do anything, either," Reyes said after Wednesday's 5-3 win against the Los Angeles Dodgers.

The Mets had been inclined to play with a short bench this week and keep Reyes on the active roster if doctors believed there was a reasonable chance the spark plug would be healthy for the first series following the All-Star break, against the National League East-leading Philadelphia Phillies. Once Reyes is placed on the disabled list, he would be ineligible for that July 15-17 series.

"We have to see what is going to be the best-case scenario for me," said Reyes, who leads the majors with a .354 average. "If I have to go (to the DL), if I really need to go, I have to do it."

Ashie62
Jul 07 2011 06:41 AM
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Now we are up to July 18. I thought this was a day to day injury. I hope this does not snowball.

metirish
Jul 07 2011 07:24 AM
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Jeter would never accept going on the DL for such a thing.......Reyes is not a winner.

Ceetar
Jul 07 2011 07:36 AM
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metirish wrote:
Jeter would never accept going on the DL for such a thing.......Reyes is not a winner.


And if Jeter did have to go on the DL, he'd never let it escalate past the 15 day minimum.

Edgy DC
Jul 07 2011 07:37 AM
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Crudbuckets.

The Mets are going to need another shortstop before this is all over.

seawolf17
Jul 07 2011 07:39 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Crudbuckets.

The Mets are going to need another shortstop before this is all over.

MFS62
Jul 07 2011 07:48 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Crudbuckets.

The Mets are going to need another shortstop before this is all over.

Hey!
slap! slap!
Enough of that talk, young man.
The Mets are undefeated since Jose got hurt.
We don't need no steenking Jose.

Later
(j/k)

Ceetar
Jul 07 2011 07:50 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Crudbuckets.

The Mets are going to need another shortstop before this is all over.

Hey!
slap! slap!
Enough of that talk, young man.
The Mets are undefeated since Jose got hurt.
We don't need no steenking Jose.

Later
(j/k)


Yankees were 14-4 without Jeter, are now 1-2 with him. (to followup on seawolf17's point)

metirish
Jul 07 2011 07:55 AM
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But Jeter is getting his hits and apparently that's all that counts.

Ceetar
Jul 07 2011 07:59 AM
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metirish wrote:
But Jeter is getting his hits and apparently that's all that counts.


Did you see how he just DROVE that ball into the gap last night?

Edgy DC
Jul 07 2011 08:08 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
Edgy DC wrote:
Crudbuckets.

The Mets are going to need another shortstop before this is all over.

Hey!
slap! slap!
Enough of that talk, young man.
The Mets are undefeated since Jose got hurt.
We don't need no steenking Jose.

Later
(j/k)

Well, what I'm suggesting is that they'll need some insurance for Tejada. Maybe that's Luis Hernandez, I don't know. But I'm not sure how often they can keep running the same guys out there.

Ceetar
Jul 07 2011 08:10 AM
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Valdespin? nah, probably don't want to start his ML time.

Edgy DC
Jul 07 2011 08:12 AM
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I don't care a whit about ML time and arbitration clocks and the like, but you want somebody who is already there defensively, and Valdespin is still learning shortstop.

metirish
Jul 07 2011 12:47 PM
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DL today various twatters are saying" Mets wanna play it safe"

Ceetar
Jul 07 2011 12:56 PM
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metirish wrote:
DL today various twatters are saying" Mets wanna play it safe"


Perhaps the right move, was seeming inevitable anyway. I'll believe a timetable after he starts running. some random doc saying 3 weeks before the Mets get together and make a plan is worthless.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 07 2011 03:47 PM
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Turner was targeted for a swingman-type position, so would you really need a shortstop to replace Reyes on the roster?

Lutz, anyone?

Ashie62
Jul 07 2011 05:18 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Turner was targeted for a swingman-type position, so would you really need a shortstop to replace Reyes on the roster?

Lutz, anyone?


Lutz has been hurt most of the season..Turner is not going to play SS.. so its Ruben and Luis Hernandez??

Ashie62
Jul 07 2011 05:19 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
metirish wrote:
DL today various twatters are saying" Mets wanna play it safe"


Perhaps the right move, was seeming inevitable anyway. I'll believe a timetable after he starts running. some random doc saying 3 weeks before the Mets get together and make a plan is worthless.


Where did this 3 week reference come from?

Ashie62
Jul 07 2011 05:26 PM
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OK..Enrique Rojas of ESPN says Reyes will be out 3 weeks.

How did we go from day to day to 3 weeks. I mean wtf??

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 07 2011 05:45 PM
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I can't count how many times day-to-day has turned into week-to-week.

Ike Davis and David Wright started out day-to-day too, as I recall.

Edgy DC
Jul 07 2011 06:54 PM
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Happens often enough. Nobody should be shocked.

And yeah, I think it would behoove the Mets to peel their eyes for shortstop options. As of the last few days, the backup has been Willie Harris or somesuch. Let's not get caught with our pants down or ride poor Tejada until he drops, to mix a metaphor.

Rockin' Doc
Jul 07 2011 07:08 PM
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Well, I'm wearing my blue and purple shades today so I see this as allowing Reyes more time to negotiate and sign his next Mets contract.

Ceetar
Jul 07 2011 07:26 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I can't count how many times day-to-day has turned into week-to-week.

Ike Davis and David Wright started out day-to-day too, as I recall.


Nah, Wright was always at least the DL stint and even that seemed a long shot. They didn't DL him for the first game because he wanted that second opinion, but Terry wouldn't even pinch hit him.

I do think Davis was, but that turned into "2 weeks off" real fast when he couldn't run and still felt pain.

Dickey's been "day to day" and even "will miss his next start" a couple of times this season but hasn't missed a beat. (just for the "everything always gets worse" crowd) Capuano too. (funny, the old guy and the 2-TJ guy have bounced back from aches and pains pretty well) Turner hurt his thumb and didn't require DL time/it didn't fall off. Beltran experienced a set back (way back in Spring Training) and yet showed up right on time.

Ashie62
Jul 07 2011 07:32 PM
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Jose just said himself in the pregame "I pulled a hamstring." So the strain was a lie?

seawolf17
Jul 08 2011 01:30 AM
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And in St Louis, Albert Pujols is told eight weeks and is somehow back after four.

Edgy DC
Jul 08 2011 06:36 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Jose just said himself in the pregame "I pulled a hamstring." So the strain was a lie?

Or the nuances between strain and pull, and the various grades within those terms, is not something he has bothered to be the master of.

MFS62
Jul 08 2011 07:01 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Lutz, anyone?

I'd love to see him brought up, but he is built like a linebacker.
He's a 3B/1B type of player. Definitely not a shortstop.
Edgy's right. They need someone who can play short for at least a few games in a row if Tejada needs a rest.

Later

Ceetar
Jul 08 2011 07:06 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Lutz, anyone?

I'd love to see him brought up, but he is built like a linebacker.
He's a 3B/1B type of player. Definitely not a shortstop.
Edgy's right. They need someone who can play short for at least a few games in a row if Tejada needs a rest.

Later


I disagree, if Tejada needs a couple of games, send him down for someone else.

What I think they need is someone that won't embarrass them at SS the rest of the game if they want/need to PH for Tejada in a key 7th/8th inning AB.

Someone must have asked this of Alderson right? Maybe way back when they sent Hu away?

Edgy DC
Jul 08 2011 07:19 AM
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Yeah, well, he's not really quoting me correctly. i just think they have to add to the shortstop depth chart. Whether they find somebody for the major league roster or the minor league one. But yeah, I'm more concerned about a few innings without Tejada than a few games.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 08 2011 06:07 PM
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Ruben Tejada is 21 years old, and has a four-day vacation coming up.

Turner HAS played SS before, including 21 games last year in Buffalo, and will likely back up in a pinch (as he was slated to when called up).

Edgy DC
Jul 08 2011 07:35 PM
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Which is why I say what I say. I'm not afraid of fatiguing the guy, but rather of (a) him getting hurt, or (b) wanting to pinch hit for him in a game situation but being afraid to go forward in extra innings with Turner or Harris.

Really, the main issue I mean to get at is with Reyes down and Hu gone, we need to shore up the organizational depth.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 14 2011 06:51 AM
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Wright to join the St. Lucie Mets on Friday. The goal is to have him return to the big leagues by July 22 when the Mets are in Miami.

Ceetar
Jul 14 2011 08:09 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Wright to join the St. Lucie Mets on Friday. The goal is to have him return to the big leagues by July 22 when the Mets are in Miami.


I'm hopeful for Wright. Not expecting a relapse, especially since he was playing through the injury anyway. Not slated for another test, so I doubt he doesn't return.

Reyes is supposed to run tomorrow. Since he supposedly was on the field doing normal baseball type stuff at the All-Star Game, is it reasonable to expect he's probably okay, they were just conservative? If he runs tomorrow, is he activiated Monday? Do they get him a rehab start? is it in Brooklyn so he doesn't have to go away?

Ike still seems a ways off, but it sounds like he _is_ healing now. At least no microfracture.

TransMonk
Jul 14 2011 08:30 AM
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I'm pretty confident both Wright and Reyes will return on their current announced schedules.

I'm not hoping for anything from Ike and Johan other than that they'll be 100% for 2012.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 14 2011 08:31 AM
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TransMonk wrote:
I'm pretty confident both Wright and Reyes will return on their current announced schedules.

I'm not hoping for anything from Ike and Johan other than that they'll be 100% for 2012.


My hunch is that we'll see both Ike and Johan active in August, but you're right; Reyes and Wright seem much more promising at this point.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 14 2011 08:48 AM
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Wright's gonna have a huge second half.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 14 2011 03:01 PM
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Interesting (if slightly overwrought in spots) piece here on Buchholz's struggle with depression, courtesy of AOL Patch.

He didn’t want to look in the mirror that morning. He’d been floating by mirrors for some time now, his reflection a shadowy distortion. He didn’t like the face he saw, either. He didn’t like what he was becoming.

He reached for the stubble on his chin as he dragged his feet across the natty hotel room rug that morning, eyelids half-mast and not too eager to begin a new day with a hot shower. He hated the dark place where he was; only he didn’t know he was in a dark place. Maybe today will be different, he tried to convince himself. Maybe I’ll look forward to going to the ballpark and throwing again, he thought.

That’s when Taylor Buchholz hit his nadir.

metirish
Jul 14 2011 03:08 PM
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He didn’t want to look in the mirror that morning. He’d been floating by mirrors for some time now, his reflection a shadowy distortion. He didn’t like the face he saw, either. He didn’t like what he was becoming.


James Patterson wrote this?

Geez

Fman99
Jul 14 2011 03:44 PM
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He didn’t want to look in the mirror that morning. He’d been floating by mirrors for some time now, his reflection a shadowy distortion. He didn’t like the face he saw, either. He didn’t like what he was becoming.

He reached for the stubble on his chin as he dragged his feet across the natty hotel room rug that morning, eyelids half-mast and not too eager to begin a new day with a hot shower. He hated the dark place where he was; only he didn’t know he was in a dark place. Maybe today will be different, he tried to convince himself.


Ceetar
Jul 14 2011 07:52 PM
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Did Collins say Reyes was supposed to run in the outfield and the bases tonight, or tomorrow? One of those, and then they'll plan his return. no problems, Terry implied it'd be Monday.

metsmarathon
Jul 14 2011 08:17 PM
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regardless of the writing, all the best to taylor.

Edgy DC
Jul 14 2011 08:38 PM
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Ike, meanwhile, is doing everything he can to preserve Daniel Murphy's career:

Davis takes step backward, may need surgery
By Aaron Taube / MLB.com


NEW YORK -- Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said Wednesday he didn't expect injured first baseman Ike Davis to make an impact by the July 31 non-waiver Trade Deadline. On Thursday, the Mets announced it will likely be much longer than that.

Davis had progressed to running on artificial turf with his injured left ankle Saturday, but he felt sharp pain after a similar workout the next day. Though Davis said he felt better later and even went jogging that day, by Thursday he was receiving a cortisone shot from a doctor in North Carolina.

If the bone bruise and damaged cartilage in his ankle are not almost entirely healed within three weeks, he will have season-ending surgery.

"Some days it feels really good, some days it doesn't," Davis said. "The cortisone shot is like a last-ditch effort to see if I can push forward without having to have surgery.

"If it's not pretty much gone by then, then we'll think about surgery. Hopefully this cortisone shot kind of knocks all the inflammation out and I'm good to go after this."

Davis' announcement was almost identical to the one the Mets made June 22, when Alderson said that if Davis was not better in three weeks, he would have season-ending surgery.

Davis will rest for the next four to five days with the team in New York, during which time he will get a second opinion and an MRI. After that, he will return to the Mets' Spring Training complex in Port St. Lucie, Fla. In order for Davis to return, Alderson said he wanted him to be running for a period of time before returning to baseball activity.

Davis said he never expected to be out this long, originally thinking he had merely rolled his ankle in a May 10 collision with David Wright. Thursday's news was even more frustrating given the superb season Davis had been enjoying prior to his injury.

Davis batted .302 with a .383 on-base percentage in 149 plate appearances, but more than anything, the Mets have missed his power. Davis' .543 slugging percentage is best on the team, and his seven home runs trail only Carlos Beltran's 13.

"The biggest thing really is, you miss doing your job," Davis said. "I trained all offseason, I trained hard. I did Spring Training, I got ready. To play a month and a couple weeks is not the goal. It's a lot of effort to put into something and then get it cut short."

Ashie62
Jul 15 2011 09:23 AM
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The Star Ledgers take..not too spoony on Ike and Johan

[url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/07/mets_ike_davis_gets_cortisone.html

TransMonk
Jul 15 2011 09:28 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

TransMonk wrote:
I'm not hoping for anything from Ike and Johan other than that they'll be 100% for 2012.

The Star Ledger wrote:
But if the injury does not improve, Davis said he’ll have surgery to correct the problem, which would more than likely eliminate his chances of making a return this season.

Sandy Alderson via the Star Ledger wrote:
“We have to look at the importance of Johan pitching this season as it relates to next year,” Alderson said. “I don’t see him coming back and playing a meaningful role in any pennant race this season.”

Ashie62
Jul 15 2011 09:40 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Ledger pushed Jose beyond Monday, but I guess that was a given and no surprise.

Centerfield
Jul 15 2011 10:07 AM
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I'd feel better if one of these guys would confirm that if Davis has that surgery he will be 100% for spring training next year.

Ashie62
Jul 15 2011 05:43 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Centerfield wrote:
I'd feel better if one of these guys would confirm that if Davis has that surgery he will be 100% for spring training next year.


This.

Edgy DC
Jul 15 2011 08:43 PM
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I got the bartender at the Austin Grill to find SNY (channel 649, it was). Among the shots of Reyes taking batting practice, Davis smiling on the bench, and Wright pitching outrageously inefficient SUVs, it was like DL porn.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 20 2011 09:22 PM
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One play after Carlos Gomez takes a serious shot to the collarbone... well, I'm no orthopedist, but I'm pretty damn sure Stephen Drew's season is over.

OE: Blech. (NOT for the squeamish.)

Ceetar
Jul 21 2011 01:56 PM
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Talk is Johan Santana could be less than a month away. Talk about a rehab start for the Cyclones August 6th (which sucks! I'm gonna be at the August 5th game! )

A Boy Named Seo
Jul 21 2011 03:25 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

One play after Carlos Gomez takes a serious shot to the collarbone... well, I'm no orthopedist, but I'm pretty damn sure Stephen Drew's season is over.

OE: Blech. (NOT for the squeamish.)


Holy shit, that's gross. Visions of Thiesman...

Edgy DC
Jul 23 2011 03:50 PM
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Here's a better vision. A vision of fishing for health and wellness.

Johan Santana eyes rehab start
By Adam Rubin
ESPNNewYork.com

Archive MIAMI -- New York Mets left-hander Johan Santana confirmed he is ready to advance to a minor league rehab game assuming he throws a bullpen session without issue before Sunday's Mets-Marlins game at Sun Life Stadium.

Santana, working his way back from Sept. 14 surgery to repair a torn anterior capsule in his left shoulder, threw a three-inning simulated game Friday in Port St. Lucie, Fla. He then joined the Mets for their weekend series in Miami.

The Mets are eyeing Wednesday for Santana's first minor league game, which would start a maximum 30-day clock for him to return to the majors.

"After tomorrow, I hope that if everything goes right, I'll get an opportunity to maybe get in a minor league game or something like that," Santana said Saturday. "It's not for sure. But if everything is fine and they evaluate that it's fine, then that's what we're going to do."

Manager Terry Collins would like Santana to pitch in the major leagues this season, if for no other reason than to have peace of mind during the offseason that the shoulder will not be an issue in 2012.

"I've told him so. I think it will be very, very important for him to get some outings this year so that (when) he comes in next spring, the doubt is gone," Collins said.

Said Santana: "I'm working my way back, and I hope to be back sometime this season. That's where we're at right now, and that's what I want to do. But if it doesn't happen, it doesn't mean it's the end of the world. We are here on the same page, and we want to make sure looking toward the future we're in good shape."

Santana is signed for two more seasons, with a team option for 2014.

He registered 89 mph during his most recent session facing batters. The southpaw believes the velocity will rise as he goes through a spring training-like program over the next month.

"It's too early to think about velocity," Santana said. "The next couple of weeks are going to be important, and I'm going to have a better idea of where the velocity is and how I feel when I throw the ball. ... It's just a matter of getting the strength back. Time, I think, will dictate how I'm going to be. But as of now I feel good."

The track record for returning from the type of surgery Santana underwent has not been favorable. Chien-Ming Wang is still trying to work back to the major leagues for the first time since 2009 with the New York Yankees.

Still, Santana indicated he remains upbeat. He added that he has not consulted Mark Prior, Wang or any other pitcher who has undergone the procedure.

"Everybody's different," Santana said. "It all depends how you approach this. It's not easy. But, at the same time, it's not impossible. As of now, I feel good."

Santana had been held off a mound for two weeks in early June after experiencing what general manager Sandy Alderson described as discomfort in the shoulder. Santana minimized that issue, noting he continued to throw on flat ground during that time period while staying off the mound.

"I felt, and my body was telling me, to long toss more than just get on the mound, because that intensity was definitely different than what I was doing," Santana said. "I went back to long toss and everything was fine. And after I got on the mound again, I was doing this with no problem."

Santana added: "Just because you have a program written down doesn't mean you have to follow it exactly how it is."

Santana said the season-long absence from the Mets has been passable because he has his children with him while rehabbing. He also has gone fishing on occasion with injured first baseman Ike Davis at a pond behind the Mets' Port St. Lucie complex.

"I didn't know how to fish," Santana said. "Ike, every time he casts, he gets something. I was like, 'Again?' And I was just hanging there, just being careful for a snake or something -- I don't know, an alligator. We got a raccoon one time. It came out of nowhere. I was like, 'Oh, god.' But it was a great time."

Adam Rubin covers the Mets for ESPNNewYork.com.

Ceetar
Jul 23 2011 03:56 PM
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That last part was great. I think I know that lake too, I drove that way to the park once, got cursed at by a crossing guard in front of a school. I hope he means they got visited by a raccoon once..not caught it out of the lake?

Santana said the season-long absence from the Mets has been passable because he has his children with him while rehabbing. He also has gone fishing on occasion with injured first baseman Ike Davis at a pond behind the Mets' Port St. Lucie complex.

"I didn't know how to fish," Santana said. "Ike, every time he casts, he gets something. I was like, 'Again?' And I was just hanging there, just being careful for a snake or something -- I don't know, an alligator. We got a raccoon one time. It came out of nowhere. I was like, 'Oh, god.' But it was a great time."

Edgy DC
Jul 24 2011 09:06 PM
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Mr. Rubin wrote:
MIAMI -- New York Mets left-hander Johan Santana threw a 45-pitch bullpen session at Sun Life Stadium before Sunday's game against the Florida Marlins and declared he is ready to pitch in a minor league rehab game if he awakes on Monday feeling similarly good.

"I think we actually started spring training a week ago, a week and a half ago, when we moved the bullpens closer together," said Mets rehab coordinator Randy Niemann, who monitored Santana's bullpen session along with the major league staff. "We started batting practice. That's what you would do in spring training. He's gotten to the point where, if he recovers, and he's feeling good, we can start getting into games, like you would in spring training."

Santana underwent Sept. 14 surgery to repair a torn anterior capsule in his left shoulder. The Mets are eyeing a minor league game on Wednesday for Santana. Niemann expects Santana's pitch count in his first game would be about 45 as well.

"I felt good overall," Santana said about Sunday's session, which came two days after he threw a three-inning simulated game in Port St. Lucie, Fla. "I think all the work that we have been doing is paying off. The way I'm feeling right now, I'm getting closer."

Niemann recounted the progress Santana has made since he became fatigued just throwing briefly on flat ground a couple of months ago.

"I told him the other day, I reminded him, when we were out to 60 feet and his arm got tired at 25 throws," Niemann said. "What a difference. He's made great progress. I'm very proud of how hard he's worked. Every time I see him on the mound, I see it just a little bit better than the last time. That's what we're looking for. And then the biggest thing is how he recovers the next day. ... We'll take it one step at a time. You can't get ahead of anything in the rehab game. That's for sure."

Said Santana: "We still have some way to go, but I'm feeling better. And that's what we're looking for day in and day out -- that every day I feel better, every time I throw in the bullpen or off the mound I feel good. The last couple of times has been really good."

Adam Rubin covers the Mets for ESPNNewYork.com.

Edgy DC
Jul 25 2011 10:55 AM
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And... no.

No midweek minors game for Johan?
July, 25, 2011By Adam Rubin



Johan Santana throws a bullpen
session Sunday in Miami.


Despite weekend suggestions Johan Santana is ready to proceed to a minor league game on Wednesday -- including from Santana himself -- GM Sandy Alderson indicated the ace is likely to instead throw another simulated game, according to a tweet from Binghamton Mets beat writer Lynn Worthy.

Santana threw a bullpen session Sunday in Miami and had suggested a midweek game would be next if he awoke Monday feeling up to it. But everyone stressed the plan was fluid and subject to change.

Alderson told the Press & Sun-Bulletin of Binghamton on Sunday night via email: "The next outing for Johan will be in a controlled setting in Port St. Lucie."


Seems like step two in the gradual rollout of the white flag.

Ceetar
Jul 25 2011 12:08 PM
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And... no.

No midweek minors game for Johan?
July, 25, 2011By Adam Rubin



Johan Santana throws a bullpen
session Sunday in Miami.


Despite weekend suggestions Johan Santana is ready to proceed to a minor league game on Wednesday -- including from Santana himself -- GM Sandy Alderson indicated the ace is likely to instead throw another simulated game, according to a tweet from Binghamton Mets beat writer Lynn Worthy.

Santana threw a bullpen session Sunday in Miami and had suggested a midweek game would be next if he awoke Monday feeling up to it. But everyone stressed the plan was fluid and subject to change.

Alderson told the Press & Sun-Bulletin of Binghamton on Sunday night via email: "The next outing for Johan will be in a controlled setting in Port St. Lucie."


Seems like step two in the gradual rollout of the white flag.


I don't know about that. Given the giant clusterfuck of reporters they let watch him Sunday, I always presumed htere would be a ton of speculation and assertions about what would happen next. But I was surprised when the rumors of a real game were brought up, because I really didn't think they wanted to start that 30 day clock. A controlled situation probably doesn't set his rehab back, but allows them to better keep the pace slow, so taht either he progresses and they give him a couple of majors starts, or they don't, and can keep him on the DL.

Edgy DC
Jul 25 2011 12:20 PM
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I don't know either. Just saying it seems like it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 25 2011 12:51 PM
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"Let's sit this one out" would be more of a definitive concession (duh).

This seems more like "let's not let competitive juices/possible freak injury come into play JUST yet, until we ramp up his sim-game/bullpen game a BIT more."

Edgy DC
Jul 27 2011 10:37 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Santana reportedly scheduled to start tomorrow for the St. Lucies.

Marlins reportedly shutting down Smosh Smonson for the rest of the year.

Chad Ochoseis
Jul 30 2011 09:31 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

The ace of an NL East team's pitching staff, who is coming off surgery and hasn't pitched an inning in 2011, is looking good in simulated games and may be coming back in September.

Hint - his uni number ends in 7.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2 ... assignment

Edgy DC
Aug 03 2011 09:16 AM
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When life isn't quite painful, it's filled with lingering discomfort.

Santana's comeback stalls, Mets ace to see doctor Thursday due to lingering discomfort
By MIKE FITZPATRICK | ASSOCIATED PRESS | 2 hours, 55 minutes ago in Sports


Johan Santana's comeback from shoulder surgery has stalled.

The New York Mets ace was scratched from his next scheduled rehab start because of lingering discomfort in his pitching shoulder. He will head back to New York to be examined by a doctor Thursday and it's uncertain if he will get back to the majors this season.

"I don't really believe this is about this year. This is about a timetable that will get him ready and if part of that timetable is pitching games in the major leagues this year, good. If it's not, it's not," general manager Sandy Alderson said Tuesday. "We're certainly not going to rush things. I think right now a window in September is open to us. If it closes, that's the way it goes."

Santana pitched three scoreless innings last Thursday for Class-A St. Lucie in his first rehab outing since undergoing surgery last September to repair a torn anterior capsule in his left shoulder.

The two-time Cy Young Award winner was slated to pitch again Wednesday for St. Lucie, but Alderson said Monday that Santana would likely be pushed back a day because he didn't feel as strong as he wanted to following the first outing.

Then, on Tuesday, Alderson said the 32-year-old left-hander was scheduled to see the doctor and won't pitch again until at least next week.

"There is some lingering discomfort in his shoulder and we want to make sure that's checked out before we go any further with the rehab," Alderson said. "I can't comment on the severity of this discomfort _ that's one of the reasons we want him seen by a doctor _ but there is some there. More than anything else, Johan would like to have it checked out before he proceeds."

Alderson said he wasn't sure whether the news should be characterized as a setback for Santana, but it definitely delays his rehab schedule.

"I wouldn't say this is something we expected, but in the overall course of things, it's probably not something that should be unexpected," Alderson said.

"Nothing is worth it to the point where we're going to push him to do something that he's not capable of doing. I've already said that as far as 2011 is concerned, we're not looking for him to contribute to a pennant race, so we will view September as part of his overall recovery from this surgery. If he's able to pitch, great. If not, we'll work that into his offseason schedule and spring training."

Santana threw 26 of 33 pitches for strikes and allowed two hits last week against the Daytona Cubs. He played long toss after the outing but did not throw a bullpen session, Alderson said.

Acquired from Minnesota before the 2008 season, Santana is signed through 2013 on a deal that guaranteed him $137.5 million over six years.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 03 2011 09:32 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Yeah, he's done.

Ashie62
Aug 03 2011 09:59 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

I have lingering discomfort in my shoulder everyday. I wish I could shut it down sometimes but I am not that valuable.

Ceetar
Aug 03 2011 10:04 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
I have lingering discomfort in my shoulder everyday. I wish I could shut it down sometimes but I am not that valuable.


Your changeup doesn't have much break to it anyway.

Edgy DC
Aug 03 2011 11:28 AM
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I've been doing rehab for lingering shoulder discomfort. Best part of my week. I highly recommend it to you, Ashie, and recommend that the rest of you strain your shoulders immediately.

Gwreck
Aug 07 2011 07:38 PM
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It comes as no surprise but Murphy is done for the year. The only good news is that no surgery is required.

Edgy DC
Aug 07 2011 08:01 PM
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Duda becomes the lefthanded firstbaseman, and here's hoping that Martinez gets his outfield at-bats sooner or later.

Really, the curiosity is Reyes. It knocks a couple of bucks off his asking price I guess, but...

Ashie62
Aug 07 2011 08:39 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Edgy DC wrote:
Duda becomes the lefthanded firstbaseman, and here's hoping that Martinez gets his outfield at-bats sooner or later.

Really, the curiosity is Reyes. It knocks a couple of bucks off his asking price I guess, but...


If Fernando Martinez has been diagnosed with arthritis can he even be an everyday player?

Reyes? Let all previous debates be rehashed. Personally, I'm waiting for the first "He shoulda been traded!"

Edgy DC
Aug 07 2011 08:49 PM
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Rehashing is for suckers. That Reyes is made of flesh and blood is nothing new.

I'm proposing Martinez get the outfield at-bats Duda had been getting, not that he play every day. At any rate, they're playing him steadily in Buffalo and the grass is no harder in the National League.

If Reyes doesn't get disabled, then it's a moot point, as they'll likely call up Tejada for Murphy's spot.

Ashie62
Aug 07 2011 09:19 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

The media enjoys flesh and blood.

Ashie62
Aug 07 2011 09:32 PM
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And tracksuit is first outta the box.

[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2011/08/what-does-reyes-injury-mean-for-his-chances-of-returning

HahnSolo
Aug 08 2011 07:50 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Dr. Burkhart on SNY's Sports Nightly (or whatever they call they're SportsCenter ripoff) said he can't see how Reyes won't miss at least as long as he was out the last time.

Ashie62
Aug 08 2011 08:17 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Torn MCL for Murphy.

MFS62
Aug 08 2011 08:24 AM
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Ashie62 wrote:
If Fernando Martinez has been diagnosed with arthritis can he even be an everyday player?

I've noticed that Martinez has been DH-ing lately. But the Bisons' announcers haven't told us anything about that. Is it really arthritis?
Edgy is right. The grass at Citi can't be any harder than the grass at Coca-Cola Field (the Buffalo Stadium).
Let's get him up here and find out what he can do. He's 22 years old now, and tempis fugit.

Later

Ashie62
Aug 08 2011 08:33 AM
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Fmart..mild arthritis in right knee.

[url]http://www.metsblog.com/2010/11/30/fernando-martinez-mild-arthritis-in-the-knee/

MFS62
Aug 08 2011 08:37 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Ashie62 wrote:
Fmart..mild arthritis in right knee.

[url]http://www.metsblog.com/2010/11/30/fernando-martinez-mild-arthritis-in-the-knee/

I guess I can give them a pass on that one since it is old news.
Never saw that before.
Thanks,
Later

Edgy DC
Aug 10 2011 02:45 PM
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Acosta going in for x-rays on the pinkie, and Parnell designated as the closer for the night --- both situations threatening to leave the Mets bullpen a little stretched for the evening. Go deep, R.A.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 12 2011 08:55 PM
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NY Daily News wrote:
The latest on Ike Davis

BY Andy Martino

Ike Davis lives in Arizona, and had nothing better to do than join the Mets for this series. When life consists of walking on a treadmill, watching DVDs of The Wire and Breaking Bad, and wishing your ankle would heal, it’s nice at least to see your friends.

“It’s up in the air,” said Davis, who saw a specialist in North Carolina this week. “It could heal on his own. It couldn’t.”

That, at least, will end around Labor Day. If Davis needs surgery--which could be either a serious microfracture procedure, or a minor arthroscopic one--he needs to have it by early September, in order to be ready for spring training.

He still hopes to avoid surgery, because doctors told him, “It’s probably never going to feel the same (if he has surgery), but it will hopefully get better.”

Still, if he he has to undergo the procedure, he wants to do it as soon as possible, and move his life and career out of stasis.

“The waiting game is kind of getting old,” he said.

Edgy DC
Aug 13 2011 08:14 PM
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Contusion for Pelf. X-ray's negative.

Ceetar
Aug 18 2011 05:06 PM
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Will Carroll wrote:
Just got some really positive news on Jose Reyes. More in tomorrow's UTK. #SI


Well gee thanks. That's helpful. I didn't know there was anything really up in the air about Reyes that we could get surprise "really positive" news.

Edgy DC
Aug 26 2011 08:33 AM
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His eyes have alchemical powers that can turn sand into gold dust with a single focused look. That would be really positive.

Jose played five innings for Binghamton In his first rehab game with Binghamton and went 0-for-1 with a walk and a run scored against Altoona, as Backman's team's winning streak ended at seven with Josh Stinson yielding a ninth-inning homer.

Chin-lung Hu, meanwhile, is starting to find his stroke way down in the Gulf Coast League, going 7 for his last 28 and has his average up to yippytastic .182.

Edgy DC
Aug 27 2011 10:37 PM
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Jose Reyes makes a mockery of Eastern League pitching:

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/mult ... d=18495441

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 30 2011 10:07 AM
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Ike Davis is running all out, becoming optimistic that he'll be able to avoid the microfracture surgery. Decision soon.

metirish
Aug 30 2011 10:50 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Ike Davis is running all out, becoming optimistic that he'll be able to avoid the microfracture surgery. Decision soon.




Here's what I see happening....Ike comes back, running all out, no surgery required and then snap, something goes and surgery is needed after all......yyybbb time wasted.

seawolf17
Aug 30 2011 12:29 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

metirish wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Ike Davis is running all out, becoming optimistic that he'll be able to avoid the microfracture surgery. Decision soon.




Here's what I see happening....Ike comes back, running all out, no surgery required and then snap, something goes during the last week of spring training 2012 and surgery is needed after all......yyybbb time wasted.

Fixed that for you.

Ceetar
Aug 30 2011 12:31 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

seawolf17 wrote:
metirish wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Ike Davis is running all out, becoming optimistic that he'll be able to avoid the microfracture surgery. Decision soon.




Here's what I see happening....Ike comes back, running all out, no surgery required and then snap, something goes during the last week of spring training 2012 and surgery is needed after all......yyybbb time wasted.

Fixed that for you.


That's how we got to see Mike Jacobs for three weeks. remember that?

seawolf17
Aug 30 2011 12:58 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
seawolf17 wrote:
metirish wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Ike Davis is running all out, becoming optimistic that he'll be able to avoid the microfracture surgery. Decision soon.




Here's what I see happening....Ike comes back, running all out, no surgery required and then snap, something goes during the last week of spring training 2012 and surgery is needed after all......yyybbb time wasted.

Fixed that for you.


That's how we got to see Mike Jacobs for three weeks. remember that?

Mike Jacobs never happened. You hear me? NEVER HAPPENED. /strikes out

Edgy DC
Aug 31 2011 06:26 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Didn't Jacobs appear because Murphy was hit by a pitch --- that is, a new injury?

Ceetar
Aug 31 2011 06:56 AM
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Edgy DC wrote:
Didn't Jacobs appear because Murphy was hit by a pitch --- that is, a new injury?


oh semantics! Wasn't this the one where he hurt himself in a rundown? He later had a little bit of a setback and that's when we got Ike.

Edgy DC
Aug 31 2011 07:27 PM
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No, he Ike took the job from Jacobs after a month of excelling in the minors while Jacobs was failing in the majors. Murphy later got spiked during a rehab game.

Not semantics.

Ceetar
Aug 31 2011 07:49 PM
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Edgy DC wrote:
No, he Ike took the job from Jacobs after a month of excelling in the minors while Jacobs was failing in the majors. Murphy later got spiked during a rehab game.

Not semantics.


Semantics in the difference between a new injury and a setback.

But Murphy did have a setback, coupled with Jacobs sucking and Ike anti-sucking. (blowing? no that's not right) When Murphy's return wasn't eminent is when they promoted Davis, and that's when they shifted Murphy's rehab to second base and when he got spiked. In fact, Murphy might have a beef with Jacobs as if he was holding down the fort maybe they don't promote Davis right away and let him get more seasoning.

Edgy DC
Aug 31 2011 08:00 PM
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All I could get was the Marlin radio feed.

I think those guys were more generous to the Mets than Wayne Hagin is.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 01 2011 06:31 PM
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Associated Press wrote:
Mets C Thole leaves game

NEW YORK -- Mets catcher Josh Thole has left their game against the Florida Marlins in the second inning after being hit in the left hand by a foul ball.

Thole was hit when Emilio Bonifacio fouled a 2-0 pitch back. Thole stayed in his crouch until a Mets trainer and manager Terry Collins went out to check on him. He fell to his knees after trying to squeeze the trainer's hand Thursday night.

Mike Nickeas replaced Thole.

Ceetar
Sep 01 2011 09:35 PM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

Thole and Tejada both negative. Thole will see a hand specialist tomorrow to be sure.

Collins asked Adam Rubin to identify the bone he was talking about for him in the post-game while pointing to the bone on the wrist just below the hand. (Adam didn't actually know)

Ashie62
Sep 15 2011 08:38 AM
Re: Life is painful: Injuries in Eleven

There will be no minor league starts this year for Johan Santana or starts for the Mets either. Randy Niemann says Santana will be ready for spring training.

Reyes' hammy is still bothering him but playing through..Zee link..

[url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2011/09/mes_johan_santana_feels_rehab.html

Edgy DC
Sep 24 2011 12:16 AM
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Two thirds of Mets outfield out with headaches and being watched for concussion syndromes. The third third is apparently back after a sinus infection. It'd be nice to get resolution on these before the season ends.