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Bill Pecota Revisited

Edgy DC Feb 15 2011 08:00 AM

Royals blogger, counting down his team's top 100, looks back at Jeff Torborg's favorite futility infielder.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 15 2011 08:07 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

"Wait until you see Bill Pecota!" That's got to be high on the list of famous/infamous Mets quotes. Maybe that can be next off-season's forum project: compiling and ranking famous Mets quotes.

The Second Spitter Feb 15 2011 08:27 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

Nate Silver was/is a Mets fan; If he developed his stat system a decade later it probably would have been called the VELANDIA.

Edgy DC Feb 15 2011 08:30 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

My favorite double-quote: Wally Backman: "From the stuff I heard from the trainer’s room, Straw should’ve been out there. Nobody in the world that I know of gets sick 25 times a year." Darryl Strawberry: “I'll bust that little redneck in the face." I try to imagine being the reporter running back and forth between them. Do you file or do you go back for one more quote, seeing if the other guy will escalate?

The Second Spitter Feb 15 2011 08:45 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

Edgy DC wrote: I try to imagine being the reporter running back and forth between them. Do you file or do you go back for one more quote, seeing if the other guy will escalate? If you extend the meaning of "reporter" to cover Bob Klapisch, I can vividly picture it.

Edgy DC Feb 15 2011 09:01 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

Met figures in the top 100 Royals: #89: Paul Byrd #77: Fran Healy #66: Bil Pecota

Benjamin Grimm Feb 15 2011 09:07 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

No Bret Saberhagen???

Edgy DC Feb 15 2011 09:09 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

#29: Cookie Rojas #94: Kevin McReynolds #42: Jose Offerman #58 Emil Brown and #57 Raul Gonzalez (really?) Don't think they've reached the top ten (and Saberhagen) yet.

Frayed Knot Feb 15 2011 09:12 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Feb 15 2011 09:14 AM

Royals blogger, counting down his team's top 100, looks back at Jeff Torborg's favorite futility infielder. First comment to the blog piece on Pecota: He's one of my favorite "gritty, hustles" type player. Nothing fancy just gives it all that he's got everytime on the field. ... although maybe we shouldn't knock it seeing as how the CPF #66 guy is Ron Hunt.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 15 2011 09:12 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

So, Mets still to come would have to include Saberhagen and Amos Otis and Carlos Beltran.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 15 2011 09:14 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

Oh! And Clint Hurdle and David Cone.

Edgy DC Feb 15 2011 09:16 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

#40 Brian McRae #52: David Cone #56: Brent Mayne

Edgy DC Feb 15 2011 09:18 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

#63: Clint Hurdle #64 Angel Berroa #73: Michael Tucker

Edgy DC Feb 15 2011 09:22 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

#99: Rey Sanchez #100: Jay Bell

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 15 2011 10:35 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

Coney won a Cy for them-- he and Bagwell both got kneecapped in '94-- and posted a net 144 ERA+ for 2+ years, and his reward is a figurative place in Emil Brown's and Raul Gonzalez's neighborhood. That's some messed-up value system, there.

seawolf17 Feb 15 2011 10:58 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

Edgy DC wrote: #58 Emil Brown and #57 Raul Gonzalez (really?) No. Not really. Raul Ibanez, not Gonzalez.

Frayed Knot Feb 15 2011 11:04 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

CPF Ranks of Met/Royals: Bill Pecota = 404 (vs KCR ranking of 66) Fran Healy = N/A (77) Paul Byrd = 547 (89) Bret Saberhagen = 70 (??) Cookie Rojas = N/A (29) Jose Offerman = 562 (42) Kevin McReynolds = 24 (94) Emil Brown = no ranking (58) Brian McRae = 142 (40) David Cone = 23 (52) Brent Mayne = 519 (56) Clint Hurdle = 410 (63) Angel Berroa = no ranking (64) Michael Tucker = no ranking (73) Jay Bell = no ranking (100) Rey Sanchez = 526 (99) Amos Otis = 482 (??) Carlos Beltran = 20 (??)

Edgy DC Feb 15 2011 11:08 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

Jay Bell going wire to wire for the 2003 Mets, yet remaining unranked, has to go down as one of the top accomplishments in futility in Mets history.

Gwreck Feb 15 2011 11:48 AM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

In 116 ABs, Jay managed to hit 20 singles and 1 double. Good lord, I had forgotten how bad that was.

G-Fafif Feb 15 2011 12:04 PM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

The Royals: Just a bunch of wanna-be Mets. Or is it the other way around?

HahnSolo Feb 15 2011 01:56 PM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Coney won a Cy for them-- he and Bagwell both got kneecapped in '94-- and posted a net 144 ERA+ for 2+ years, and his reward is a figurative place in Emil Brown's and Raul Gonzalez's neighborhood. That's some messed-up value system, there. Uh, yeah. WTF?

HahnSolo Feb 15 2011 01:57 PM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

Frayed Knot wrote: CPF Ranks of Met/Royals: Bill Pecota = 404 (vs KCR ranking of 66) Fran Healy = N/A (77) Paul Byrd = 547 (89) Bret Saberhagen = 70 (??) Cookie Rojas = N/A (29) Jose Offerman = 562 (42) Kevin McReynolds = 24 (94) Emil Brown = no ranking (58) Brian McRae = 142 (40) David Cone = 23 (52) Brent Mayne = 519 (56) Clint Hurdle = 410 (63) Angel Berroa = no ranking (64) Michael Tucker = no ranking (73) Jay Bell = no ranking (100) Rey Sanchez = 526 (99) Amos Otis = 482 (??) Carlos Beltran = 20 (??) Reading that guy's Cone piece, I think it's safe to say Ed Hearn won't be cracking his Royals top 100.

Edgy DC Feb 15 2011 02:19 PM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

Other Metroyals in the UMDB (a surprisingly high number): Jermaine Allensworth Chip Ambres Rick Anderson Kevin Appier Tucker Ashford Brian Bannister Juan Berenguer Ricky Bottalico Craig Brazell Hubie Brooks Ambiorix Burgos José Cardenal Alberto Castillo Jaime Cerda Endy Chavez Bruce Chen Galen Cisco Vince Coleman Jeff Conine Jerry Cram (who is everywhere) Tommy Davis Wilson Delgado Elmer Dessens Mike DiFelice Octavio Dotel Jorge Fabregas Joe Foy Wes Gardner Ruben Gotay Jerry Grote Tom Hall Shane Halter Andy Hassler Ed Hearn Bob Heise Doug Henry Luis Hernandez Roberto Hernandez Philip Humber Mike Jacobs Jason Jacome Gregg Jefferies Bob Johnson Ross Jones Jeff Keppinger Terry Leach José Lima Doug Linton Graeme Lloyd Terrence Long Eli Marrero Jerry Martin Jerry May Bob McClure Joe McEwing Brian McRae Doug Mientkiewicz Keith Miller Orber Moreno Dan Murray Hideo Nomo Jon Nunnally Craig Paquette Rick Reed Desi Relaford Luis Rivera Glendon Rusch Bret Saberhagen Ray Sadecki Juan Samuel Ken Sanders José Santiago Rich Sauveur Dan Schatzeder Tim Spehr Kelly Stinnett Pat Tabler Hawk Taylor John Thomson Gary Thurman Julio Valera Derek Wallace

Benjamin Grimm Feb 15 2011 02:34 PM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

Didn't Jerry Grote have something like a 9-rbi day with the Royals? And he played very few games with them.

G-Fafif Feb 15 2011 02:35 PM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

When I think about the 1992 Mets, I often confuse/conflate Bill Pecota and Dave Gallagher. When I think of the 1993 Mets, I often conflate/confuse Dave Gallagher and Joe Orsulak. But I never associate Joe Orsulak with Bill Pecota.

Frayed Knot Feb 15 2011 02:37 PM Re: Bill Pecota Revisited

Didn't Jerry Grote have something like a 9-rbi day with the Royals? And he played very few games with them. Seven - which is a lot under any circumstance but particularly so considering he had only 9 total for them oe: and those were the final RBIs of his career