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Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Edgy MD Feb 21 2011 10:45 PM

Justin Matthew Turner Pos: 2b (plus 3b and ss); BR-TR. Born: November 23, 1984 in Long Beach, CA (He'll be 26 in 2011.) Birth Context Karma: Two days later, Band Aid recorded "Do They Know It's Christmas?" Acquired: Claimed waivers by Mets from the Orioles May 25, 2010. Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos BB-Ref WAR FG WAR Norfolk IL (AAA) 23 95 84 11 21 8 0 1 8 2 0 9 13 .250 .319 .381 .700 32 1 0 1 1 0 2b, 3b, ss Buffalo IL (AAA) 78 348 312 58 104 22 1 11 35 5 3 24 38 .333 .390 .516 .906 161 9 6 4 2 0 2b, ss, 3b Totals Minors 101 443 396 69 125 30 1 12 43 7 3 33 51 .316 .374 .487 .862 193 10 6 5 3 0 BAL AL 5 9 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 .000 .000 .000 .000 -100 0 0 0 0 0 0 2b, ss -0.3 (-0.2 off) -0.3 NYM NL 4 9 8 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .125 .222 .250 .472 29 2 0 0 0 0 0 2b, 3b 0-0 (-0.1 off) -0.1 Totals MLB 9 18 17 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 3 .059 .111 .118 .229 -37 2 0 0 0 0 0 Totals All 110 461 413 70 126 31 1 12 43 7 3 34 54 .305 .354 .472 .826 195 10 6 5 3 0 Number: 2. Greatest 2 in Mets history is probably Mackey Sasser --- I know, right? --- unless you count Bobby Valentine, and why shouldn't you? The most recent previous occupant of the number is Sandy Alomar, Sr. The most recent previous player to don it? Damon F. Buford way back in 1995. It had been that long, all the while either out of circulation or on the backs of coaches --- including Valentine, Gary Pettis, and Sandy, Sr. Wife: I can't say. Nickname: I like "The Beav." Namesakes: This Michigan defensive back, also a numbersake: Best Day in 2010: Turner's only Met hit --- a double --- led to him scoring his only Met run, a run that proved to be the difference in this 4-3 win over the coming World Champion San Francisco Giants. Last Word: Justin is in the mix for secondbase job, but he'll have to really score a knockout over Brad Emaus, as the Mets lose Emaus if they don't keep him the big-league clubhaus. What do you expect of Justin Turner in 2011?

Benjamin Grimm Feb 22 2011 05:03 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

I'd like to see him make the team, but I suspect he's Buffalo-bound. If he fails to win the 2B job, he can stick with the Mets as Murphy's backup if Castillo is released and Emaus goes back to Toronto, but I don't see it playing out that way. Put me down for 500 plate appearances in Buffalo, 80 with the Mets, mostly in September. Or, if the Mets manage to be buyers around July 31, he could very well be dealt.

Lefty Specialist Feb 22 2011 07:00 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

I'm expecting Never Say Never will gross well over $100 million and his concert tour will continue to sell out, but by the end of 2011 we'll tire of him and move on to the next teen pop flavor of the month. Oh, Justin TURNER. Gosh, I have no idea.

smg58 Feb 22 2011 07:02 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Difficult to say. He may be the best fielder of the 2B candidates, and if he's a decent enough SS he'd obviate the need to bring a weaker bat up north. My guess is he makes the team as a reserve, and pulls a .280/.340/.390 line in 200 ABs.

Edgy MD Feb 22 2011 07:21 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

So you have him taking Hu's spot, rather than Emaus's? Minteresting.

Ceetar Feb 22 2011 07:22 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'd like to see him make the team, but I suspect he's Buffalo-bound. If he fails to win the 2B job, he can stick with the Mets as Murphy's backup if Castillo is released and Emaus goes back to Toronto, but I don't see it playing out that way. This is how I see it as well. I do kinda want to see him get a shot, and was curious why he didn't last September. He'd provide much less jokes than Hu as a backup though. Maybe closer to 250 AB, as he may get more time as a backup early on while Murphy is still learning the ropes so to speak. .270/.335/.410 ish. 6 HBP in half a season in Buffalo? Hmm..Maybe bump that OBP up a tick.

TransMonk Feb 22 2011 07:23 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

I think Hu makes him redundant. Unless Murphy is awful both defensively and offensively, I see Turner in Buffalo until September.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 22 2011 07:28 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

I kinda like the idea of Turner displacing Hu. (I gather that Hu has the better glove, and Turner the better bat, but which differential is greater?) Hu's advantage in the competition is the Mets' palpable fear of pissing off that Asian reporter.

Ashie62 Feb 22 2011 07:37 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Turner will continue to look good in that Buffalo uni unless Hu falls flat, and Hu has bombed befroe, so...

Edgy MD Feb 22 2011 07:45 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I kinda like the idea of Turner displacing Hu. (I gather that Hu has the better glove, and Turner the better bat, but which differential is greater?) They've both hit in AAA, but not in the majors. The only difference is that Turner has gotten 40 plate appearances and Hu 191 (which still isn't large). Turner is 26 and Hu is 27. Hu certainly looks more athletic, but hu knows?

metirish Feb 22 2011 07:53 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Is he our token red headed stud on the team?

Edgy MD Feb 22 2011 08:03 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Asked like an Irishman. We also signed freeswinging Chris Shelton to a minor league deal last week, and he's definitely got some Rusty Staub in his bloodlines. Some Heath Bell too, come to think of it.

metirish Feb 22 2011 08:11 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Put him in a Mayo shirt and he'd look right at home.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 22 2011 09:23 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

With guys like Emaus and Murphy-- both "offensive second basemen" in more ways than one-- as the pre-preseason favorites, I suspect Alderson and Co. are looking at their backup to be a gloveman. Hu's supposedly better defensively, and they traded a decent arm in Antonini to get him. He's making the team. If someone gets hurt up the middle, Turner's first in line. I suspect he would look good should that happen, but I'm not sure it does... for anything beyond a week or so, anyway. I'll go with 80 PA, okay D, good patience, and inconsequentially-good stats.

Lefty Specialist Feb 22 2011 11:41 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Edgy DC wrote: Asked like an Irishman. We also signed freeswinging Chris Shelton to a minor league deal last week, and he's definitely got some Rusty Staub in his bloodlines. Some Heath Bell too, come to think of it. Isn't Chris Shelton the guy who hit like 14 home runs in a April a few years ago, then dropped off the planet?

Edgy MD Feb 22 2011 11:47 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

One in the same. I think he's in the history books for "Fastest guy to nine homeruns" or something.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 22 2011 01:39 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Human hair should not be that color.

metirish Feb 22 2011 01:44 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Edgy DC wrote: One in the same. I think he's in the history books for "Fastest guy to nine homeruns" or something. pretty sure it was fastest guy with ginger hair to hit nine homers.

Edgy MD Feb 22 2011 01:45 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Human hair should not be that color. 50,000,000 Rita Hayworth fans can't be wrong

metirish Feb 22 2011 01:47 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 22 2011 01:48 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

I stand by my position. She's like a hot alien. A hot-bomination.

Edgy MD Feb 22 2011 01:49 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Racist.

Vic Sage Feb 22 2011 02:14 PM Re: Expectatons of Eleven: Justin Turner

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I stand by my position. She's like a hot alien. A hot-bomination. i couldn't agree less. Except i think that's Maureen O'Hara, not Rita Hayworth.

metirish Feb 22 2011 02:22 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

'tis Mary Kate Danaher the one and only.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 22 2011 02:34 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Edgy DC wrote: Racist. I don't understand. All I'm saying is that, since they creep me out a little personally, really-ginger gingers would be one of the first up against a wall facing a "reeducation" squad after any revolution that I should happen to spearhead. Am I likely to be in a ruling junta? Am I likely to have access to a submachine gun or 10 and command authority over a dozen conscienceless men in a lawless, consequence-free environment? Has any publishing house even agreed to print and distribute my manifesto? Then what's the big deal?

Vic Sage Feb 22 2011 02:43 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

http://abcnews.go.com/WhatWouldYouDo/gi ... d=12929946 Ginger Abuse: Tackling Redhead Harassment What Would You Do If You Saw a Redhead Face Cruel Taunts? By LARA GLASWAND

Edgy MD May 19 2011 02:29 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Good stuff here. None of us really forsaw the pretty foreseeable process of Turner getting the call after the Mets rode Emaus around the block a few times. What ever happened to Chris Shelton?

Benjamin Grimm May 19 2011 02:41 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Benjamin Grimm on February 22 wrote: I'd like to see him make the team, but I suspect he's Buffalo-bound. If he fails to win the 2B job, he can stick with the Mets as Murphy's backup if Castillo is released and Emaus goes back to Toronto, but I don't see it playing out that way. Put me down for 500 plate appearances in Buffalo, 80 with the Mets, mostly in September. Or, if the Mets manage to be buyers around July 31, he could very well be dealt. I started off pretty good, but then tailed off.

Ceetar May 19 2011 02:57 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

CEETAR wrote: Maybe closer to 250 AB, as he may get more time as a backup early on while Murphy is still learning the ropes so to speak. .270/.335/.410 ish. I'm perhaps the closest?

smg58 May 19 2011 03:29 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

smg58 wrote: Difficult to say. He may be the best fielder of the 2B candidates, and if he's a decent enough SS he'd obviate the need to bring a weaker bat up north. My guess is he makes the team as a reserve, and pulls a .280/.340/.390 line in 200 ABs. Hu got exactly one inning of work at short, and my guess is that Turner wouldn't have killed us there if the inning had gone to him instead. I'm thinking he'll beat my projection for slugging percentage, though.

Fman99 May 19 2011 08:13 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

He's the greatest ginger since Ralph Malph.

MFS62 May 19 2011 10:09 PM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

He's got the coolest scraggly red goatee since Bobcat Golthwaite. Later

El Segundo Escupidor May 20 2011 04:50 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Am I the only person who thinks he bears a resemblance to Gwreck?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 20 2011 10:16 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

Gwreck's super-wide-eyed, excitable cousin, maybe. (Gwreck reminds me a little more of the actor Max Perlich.)

TransMonk May 20 2011 10:26 AM Re: Expectations of Eleven: Justin Turner

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Gwreck reminds me a little more of the actor Max Perlich. I can see that. From Beautiful Girls and Young MC's Bust A Move video.