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Double IGT, 3/8

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 08:26 AM

In one of the lesser-known Mets spring traditions, March 8 is traditionally designated as DH-the-Fourth-String-Catcher-Candidates Day 1:05pm @ Astros [list=1][*]Scott Hairston, CF[/*:m] [*]Brad Emaus, 2B[/*:m] [*]Ike Davis, 1B[/*:m] [*]Lucas Duda, LF[/*:m] [*]Zach Lutz, 3B[/*:m] [*]Fernando Martinez, RF[/*:m] [*]Josh Thole, C[/*:m] [*]Dusty Ryan, DH[/*:m] [*]Ruben Tejada, SS[/*:m][/list:o] Oliver Perez, SP (fight for your life, Ollie!) 1:10pm vs. Nationals [list=1][*]Jose Reyes, SS[/*:m] [*]Willie Harris, RF[/*:m] [*]David Wright, 3B[/*:m] [*]Daniel Murphy, 1B[/*:m] [*]Nick Evans, LF[/*:m] [*]Justin Turner, 2B[/*:m] [*]Kirk Nieuwenhuis, CF[/*:m] [*]Mike Nickeas, C[/*:m] [*]Raul Chavez, DH[/*:m][/list:o] Chris Capuano, SP

Ceetar Mar 08 2011 08:28 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 08 2011 08:48 AM

Nats game is on SNY, other one on Astros radio.

TransMonk Mar 08 2011 08:32 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Terry and Sandy are travelling to see Ollie pitch. I thought our GM wanted to see Reyes play. Hey, Sandy! Jose's in St. Lucie.

bmfc1 Mar 08 2011 08:32 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

I think that we are going to be seeing a lot of Scott Hairston in RF this season.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 08:40 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Well, we're seeing him in centerfield today, which suggests that they're not looking to even fake it with Martinez there.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 08 2011 08:44 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

If Beltran can't answer the bell, then maybe it's Fernando's time to shine.

Ceetar Mar 08 2011 08:48 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Actually, i amend my statement, it looks like the game in Kissimmee might be on the radio. I'll tune in and can hear the Astro's announcers impression of Ollie..

Benjamin Grimm Mar 08 2011 08:49 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

They also do a good impression of Cary Grant.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 09:00 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

It seems like the Astros have been in Kissimmee forever, but it's been like 27 years. I think they should move to Cape Canaveral.

metirish Mar 08 2011 09:02 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

TransMonk wrote: Terry and Sandy are travelling to see Ollie pitch. I thought our GM wanted to see Reyes play. Hey, Sandy! Jose's in St. Lucie. Rubin rather smugly says this is Ollies last time in a Mets uniform.

metirish Mar 08 2011 09:03 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Carlos Beltran will refrain from any game action for a second straight day Tuesday to rest left knee tendinitis coupled with his chronic right knee woes. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets

metirish Mar 08 2011 09:04 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

metirish wrote: TransMonk wrote: Terry and Sandy are travelling to see Ollie pitch. I thought our GM wanted to see Reyes play. Hey, Sandy! Jose's in St. Lucie. Rubin rather smugly says this is Ollies last time in a Mets uniform. I take that back , he said this Tuesday marks the final start of Oliver Perez's Mets career I guess that can be taken many ways.

TransMonk Mar 08 2011 09:05 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Can Ollie play RF?

Ceetar Mar 08 2011 09:09 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

metirish wrote: metirish wrote: TransMonk wrote: Terry and Sandy are travelling to see Ollie pitch. I thought our GM wanted to see Reyes play. Hey, Sandy! Jose's in St. Lucie. Rubin rather smugly says this is Ollies last time in a Mets uniform. I take that back , he said this Tuesday marks the final start of Oliver Perez's Mets career I guess that can be taken many ways. The main theme there being that Collins and Alderson are not being open and honest with Ollie, and that he doesn't actually have a chance to win the rotation spot even if he throws 4 innings with 12 Ks at 95mph today. You have to wonder why they're bothering to watch then.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 09:13 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Come on. There is no evidence of anybody being dishonest. It's been reported all weekend that this is expected to be Perez's last start and that Collins sees his primary opportunity to make the team as the bullpen.

Ceetar Mar 08 2011 09:18 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Edgy DC wrote: Come on. There is no evidence of anybody being dishonest. It's been reported all weekend that this is expected to be Perez's last start and that Collins sees his primary opportunity to make the team as the bullpen. that's contradictory in it of itself. If he's trying to make the team as a starter, what he does today matters. If today was going to be his last start no matter what, then he's not actually auditioning to be a starter. I know it was always extremely likely and it seemed like Collins told Perez "I'll give you a shot, show me something" and that he hasn't to this point. But to 'report' things as a done deal before it actually happens annoys me.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 08 2011 09:19 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Ceetar wrote: metirish wrote: metirish wrote: TransMonk wrote: Terry and Sandy are travelling to see Ollie pitch. I thought our GM wanted to see Reyes play. Hey, Sandy! Jose's in St. Lucie. Rubin rather smugly says this is Ollies last time in a Mets uniform. I take that back , he said this Tuesday marks the final start of Oliver Perez's Mets career I guess that can be taken many ways. The main theme there being that Collins and Alderson are not being open and honest with Ollie, and that he doesn't actually have a chance to win the rotation spot even if he throws 4 innings with 12 Ks at 95mph today. You have to wonder why they're bothering to watch then. I'd bet everything that if Ollie threw "4 innings with 12 Ks at 95mph", he'd climb the depth charts. If my mother threw "4 innings with 12 Ks at 95mph", she'd move up the Mets depth charts.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 09:21 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Come on. There is no evidence of anybody being dishonest. It's been reported all weekend that this is expected to be Perez's last start and that Collins sees his primary opportunity to make the team as the bullpen. that's contradictory in it of itself. If he's trying to make the team as a starter, what he does today matters. If today was going to be his last start no matter what, then he's not actually auditioning to be a starter. I know it was always extremely likely and it seemed like Collins told Perez "I'll give you a shot, show me something" and that he hasn't to this point. But to 'report' things as a done deal before it actually happens annoys me. No, it's not contradictory. I think you're kind of conflating Rubin with Alderson here.

batmagadanleadoff Mar 08 2011 09:34 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Ollie's throwing 84 MPH High School fastballs. He seems done. He's only auditioning because of his $12M contract. What would you prefer the Mets do with him?

Ceetar Mar 08 2011 09:43 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Ollie's throwing 84 MPH High School fastballs. He seems done. He's only auditioning because of his $12M contract. What would you prefer the Mets do with him? leaving the varying degree of fastball out of it, because every report mentions a different number for every start and if he was competant he's got the movement on those pitches to get guys out regardless. I want them to give him a chance to prove he can make the team, up until they need those innings for the serious races. I don't want him to audition as a lefty specialist because the biggest thing keeping him from being successful is also what's going to make it even worse as a reliever. Walks, and not accepting that walks are the worst thing ever. If there isn't a chance he's going to be effective, release him. Why pretend he's auditioning for anything today? Because he _is_. It's probably a .5% chance he earns anything, but it annoys me that people are reporting that it's basically a done deal and yet are all pumped up to give us constant updates as to his status and results. If it's a done deal, I don't need to hear that he threw a ball on a 2-0 count in the second inning do I?

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 11:07 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Well, Rubin will predict what he wants. Part of the goal of columnists (and internet posters) is to predict things before they happen. I don't know how we get from there to Collins and Alderson being dishonest.

G-Fafif Mar 08 2011 11:30 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Meanwhile, at St. Lucie, Capuano having many chances to test his awesome pickoff move.

bmfc1 Mar 08 2011 11:31 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

3 in the 1st against Ollie before getting an out. Had enough?

G-Fafif Mar 08 2011 11:31 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

OK, he heard me and stopped putting on Nationals.

G-Fafif Mar 08 2011 11:32 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Space Coast Stadium should be shaped like Jeannie's bottle. You'd have to bunt a lot, though.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 11:51 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Oliver Perez goes 1-2-3 in the second inning, striking out Michael Bourne to finish. Mets down by a net score of 5-1 in the two games.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 11:53 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Old buddy Nelson Figueroa and his enormous eyebrows dealing for Houston.

Ceetar Mar 08 2011 12:04 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Presumably that's it for Ollie. Mostly bad, although doesn't look so bad after the first four batters. did he adjust? (probably not) Houston announcers said he hit 90 at one point. Can't see that being enough to earn another start. Will they leave him in Disney? (near Disney) probably not, probably going to throw him an inning or two in relief from here.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 12:05 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

A double and an unintentional intentional walk in the third before Ollie gets out of it. Sounds like it was bad enough to knock him out of the mix for the rotation, but not so bad to knock him out of the bullpen mix, but obviously he's got to show more than that.

Ceetar Mar 08 2011 12:12 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Edgy DC wrote: A double and an unintentional intentional walk in the third before Ollie gets out of it. Sounds like it was bad enough to knock him out of the mix for the rotation, but not so bad to knock him out of the bullpen mix, but obviously he's got to show more than that. Rich Coutino said he was averaging 85-88 according to scouts, although the Houston guy said he was peaking at a scouts gun and saw 90, so who knows. I agree with that assessment though, bad but not bad enough. one of those outs was caught at the top of the wall by Duda. Announcers said he was still at 89mph in the third. I wonder if my phone has a speed gun app that I can bring down there next week..

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 12:33 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Ollie rival Pat Misch giving up runs in consecutive innings (one unearned) and the Astros up 5-1.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 01:04 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

The Class of 2008 gives us a run in St. Lucie. Two-out double by Daniel Murphy and Nick Evans singles him home. Nats 2, Mets 1.

Ceetar Mar 08 2011 01:06 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Edgy DC wrote: The Class of 2008 gives us a run in St. Lucie. Two-out double by Daniel Murphy and Nick Evans singles him home. Nats 2, Mets 1. meanwhile Emaus and whoever's in RF now misplay a popup for an infield single. Murphy may be in the lead in that race.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 08 2011 01:09 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

I haven't seen any of the games yet, but I'm getting the sense that Emaus hasn't been looking too good out in the field. Is that accurate?

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 01:24 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Michael O'Connor entered with second and third, two one out and Rick Ankiel coming up. He struck him out, just like a LOOGy ought to do. Then he stayed on and sweetened the pot by striking hopeful righthanded-batting firstbaseman Chris Marrero.

Ceetar Mar 08 2011 01:25 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I haven't seen any of the games yet, but I'm getting the sense that Emaus hasn't been looking too good out in the field. Is that accurate? Made a 'real' error earlier today too. That's been my impression as well, but I haven't watched much either. more listening. I don't think Turner, Murphy or even Castillo have looked great either defensively though.

Ashie62 Mar 08 2011 01:26 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Can Ollies contract be sold to Japan at a nominal price?

Gwreck Mar 08 2011 01:43 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Emaus looked bad when I saw him in person on Saturday, with a couple of mis-plays that weren't errors in your boxscore.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 08 2011 01:45 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Ceetar wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: I haven't seen any of the games yet, but I'm getting the sense that Emaus hasn't been looking too good out in the field. Is that accurate? Made a 'real' error earlier today too. That's been my impression as well, but I haven't watched much either. more listening. I don't think Turner, Murphy or even Castillo have looked great either defensively though. Valdespin, on the other hand... Plus, the kid's looked half-decent at the plate, too-- a triple and single today in two AB.

Ceetar Mar 08 2011 01:47 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Yeah, Valdespin has been a nice surprise, but he's a long shot candidate as it is right? would be surprised with 6million here, rule 5 there, that he makes the team.

bmfc1 Mar 08 2011 01:54 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

What a bomb by Cory Vaughn--ties the home game.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 08 2011 01:57 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Yeah, Valdespin's probably headed to more northerly precincts to do his thing while the Mets get a longer look at Emaus and whoever joins him at the Citi keystone. Interesting idea for the future, though... maybe as soon as later this year.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 08 2011 02:02 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Can Valdespin play shortstop?

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 02:06 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Yes, but he's not projected there currently. He's got 47 games there in his career vs. 175 at second. MEANWHILE, Daniel Murphy doubles in the eighth and Cory Vaughn (who, like Sam and Frodo, shouldn't even be here, but apparently caught a break on a split squad day) brings him around with a homer off of Atahualpa Severino, all-time minor league leader in wins by a guy name Atahualpa. Bingo-bango-bongo, the Mets and Nats are tied and we go to the tenth.

Ceetar Mar 08 2011 02:08 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Can Valdespin play shortstop? 23 games last year. 47 overall (17 errors though) so probably. Got promoted to Binghamton late last year. so only 23 games above A right now.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 02:19 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

A late rally in Kissimmeedeadly, also, with two in the eighth: [list:63n8z8ys][*:63n8z8ys]Valdespin triples.[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Pascucci grounds out. (Valdespin scores.)[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Cecliani doubles.[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Campbell walks.[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Ceciliani steals third. (crazy reckless.)[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Puello erases Campbell with fielder's choice ground out. (Ceceliani scores.)[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Gronauer strikes out as the tying run.[/*:m:63n8z8ys][/list:u:63n8z8ys] Then one more in the ninth: [list:63n8z8ys][*:63n8z8ys]Peņa strikes out looking.[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Hu reaches on error.[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Den Dekker pops out.[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Valdespin singles and becomes the tying run on first. (Hu's on second.)[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Hu steal's third. (Hu's on third. This steal qualifies as absolute madness.)[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Pascucci singles. (Hu scores; Valdespin goes to third and the tying run is tastily ninety feet away.)[/*:m:63n8z8ys] [*:63n8z8ys]Ceciliani goes down swinging. (Hearts break.)[/*:m:63n8z8ys][/list:u:63n8z8ys] Houston wins 5-4.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 02:25 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

We lose in St. Lucie also, as Met I've never heard of Dale Thayer comes on for the tenth and gives up a run, which the Mets are unable to answer.

Edgy DC Mar 08 2011 09:13 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

This afternoon's version of the Astros were managed by sexy-exy Met Al Pedrique.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 08 2011 09:47 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Also known as "NL All-Star" Al Pedrique.

MFS62 Mar 08 2011 10:04 PM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Edgy DC wrote: We lose in St. Lucie also, as Met I've never heard of Dale Thayer comes on for the tenth and gives up a run, which the Mets are unable to answer. He went to Chico State. I'm wondering if he is the first, or only, major leaguer to come from that school. Later

Edgy DC Mar 09 2011 05:13 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

No way. There was Chico Carrasquel, Chico Walker... Matt Chico. Lots of others, I'm sure.

MFS62 Mar 09 2011 07:25 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Edgy DC wrote: No way. There was Chico Carrasquel, Chico Walker... Matt Chico. Lots of others, I'm sure. I didn't want to go there. Fortunately (or was it unfortunately?) you did. LOL! Later

Frayed Knot Mar 09 2011 07:30 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

MFS62 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: We lose in St. Lucie also, as Met I've never heard of Dale Thayer comes on for the tenth and gives up a run, which the Mets are unable to answer. He went to Chico State. I'm wondering if he is the first, or only, major leaguer to come from that school. Later A number of draftees, but no major leaguers yet.

Edgy DC Mar 09 2011 07:33 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Sure, there's been Thayer himself and Clay Dalrymple.

Frayed Knot Mar 09 2011 07:37 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

So neither of the two MLers who came from Chico State was actually drafted from there -- Thayer was signed as a amateur FA; Dalrymple preceded the draft. Meanwhile all of those who were drafted have fallen short (at least so far).

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 09 2011 09:45 AM Re: Double IGT, 3/8

Chico State's an actual school? I always thought it was, like, a cutesy euphemism for the state pen.