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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 11 2011 06:40 AM |
Stinson
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2011 06:44 AM Re: You're cut |
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Not Frankie, surely? No real surprises there. If Beltran ends up on the DL to start the season, Martinez may end up getting un-cut, but I suspect he won't. Duda appears to be higher on the depth chart, at least for now.
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MFS62 Mar 11 2011 06:54 AM Re: You're cut |
All (or most) of those guys look like the kinds of players who are being sent down early so they can get lots of work in the minor league camp. These aren't the types of veterans with no chance of making the club who are still in PSL to flesh out rosters for ST games.
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metirish Mar 11 2011 07:06 AM Re: You're cut |
I expect Tejada will be back up before long.
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Ceetar Mar 11 2011 07:14 AM Re: You're cut |
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I wouldn't be surprised if he _never_ has a Mets uniform on again actually. Tejada and Valdespin are no surprises, had to send down the two faux 2B guys so they can make AB there for the real competitors.
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Edgy DC Mar 11 2011 07:45 AM Re: You're cut |
Yeah, I think the Mets have real problems if they call on Tejada again any time soon. They have a ton of better hitters and they have guys just as versatile as him in Hu and Hernandez. Hu's at least as good a fielder. Ruben's been rushed and needs to catch up.
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metirish Mar 11 2011 08:02 AM Re: You're cut |
Obviously I know absolutely nothing.
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Ceetar Mar 11 2011 08:11 AM Re: You're cut |
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I don't feel like grabbing the link, but there's pictures of Spring Training on the Real Dirty Mets Blog today, and one of them is the back of Rodriguez's helmet where his name sticker is attached. it reads "A-Rod" I think Tejada is ripe to be traded. The Mets are going to play him at SS (of course, you could read into this as the Mets cutting payroll to 70million and planning on using a guy that can't hit there for the next 10 years) in Buffalo which suggests they don't have any real plans for him this year. It seems like they haev other guys they like better too, so he could easily be moved. The way the 40man is stuffed, I suspect we're going to see a bunch of trades anyway.
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Edgy DC Mar 11 2011 08:14 AM Re: You're cut |
Well, I don't think the evidence yet suggests that he can't hit. More that he isn't ready to hit at the big-league level. He's a baby.
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Ceetar Mar 11 2011 08:27 AM Re: You're cut |
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Oh, i'm just speculating. I didn't mean right now, I meant in July, or even in the offseason as they rejigger their roster for next year. Finances aside, the team is still going to exist and need to manage a 40man roster. They've seemingly got a lot of these A Rodriguezes on there and you have to think they're going to need to empty it out a little bit at one point as other guys join the organization or rise through the ranks. (Just like Tampa drafting a billion guys this season is a good reason to keep an eye on their farm in a couple of years, as talented guys that they won't be able to protect become avail in rule5) he can't hit yet was my point, he's done nothing to prove he is a heir to any position, but playing him at SS increases his value some.
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smg58 Mar 11 2011 08:41 AM Re: You're cut |
Valdespin was the only 2B option showing signs of life with the bat, so I'm a little surprised by that. I'm glad he and Gronauer got to out with a bang.
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Ceetar Mar 11 2011 08:50 AM Re: You're cut |
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Valdespin apparently _never_ walks. And he's only played a dozen or two games above A. He's not ready. Did like what I saw though. Hu's a defensive backup now, Tejada is still likely to improve.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 11 2011 08:54 AM Re: You're cut |
Murphy hasn't been wretched with the bat, exactly (.273/.300/.415, or thereabouts)... but Valdespin has surprised.
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Edgy DC Mar 11 2011 08:55 AM Re: You're cut |
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Murphy has gone .276 / .300 / .414 // .714 --- not great but hardly lifeless. Hu has been lovely at .300 / .417 / 400 // .817. Harris is a reveleation at .273 / .385 / .545 // .930. Adams hasn't been without a big moment at .222 / .263 / .444 // .707. Tejada has been a tastey dish (if lo-cal) at .313 / .333 / .313 // .646. Castillo is still looking for his stroke, and Turner and Emaus too. But it's oily. The surprise here for me is F-Mart, especially with Beltran hobblin'.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 11 2011 08:56 AM Re: You're cut |
Yeah, Martinez's demotion shows that, at least at the moment, Duda is ahead of him in the Beltran replacement derby.
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Edgy DC Mar 11 2011 08:59 AM Re: You're cut |
Despite hitting the snot out of the ball.
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Ceetar Mar 11 2011 09:12 AM Re: You're cut |
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Yes, but we don't know if that derby is a 4th (or 5th) OF derby, or a week of fulltime derby or possible 'hope he can win ROY' derby. Might very well be the first, and Duda and Evans types are more polished for a more part time role.
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smg58 Mar 11 2011 09:57 AM Re: You're cut |
Has Harris gotten any time at 2B yet? He's probably a better fielder there than a few of the guys we're trying.
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seawolf17 Mar 11 2011 10:03 AM Re: You're cut |
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Okay, FINE, they can have Ollie. But just this time.
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metirish Mar 11 2011 10:17 AM Re: You're cut |
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funny you should ask, John Haper in the Snooze yesterday had one of those really annoying Harper articles, the ones where he talks to "prominent Mets people". Luis Castillo, Daniel Murphy, Brad Emaus, Justin Turner not standing out in Mets second base race JOHN HARPER
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Edgy DC Mar 11 2011 10:30 AM Re: You're cut |
Does that mean he's as good as Castillo was at 26, or that he brings as much to the table at 26 as Castillo does at 35?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 11 2011 10:37 AM Re: You're cut |
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Neat trick, Harper. Missing a sentence?
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Ashie62 Mar 11 2011 11:20 AM Re: You're cut |
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Perhaps Permanantly?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 11 2011 11:45 AM Re: You're cut |
Duda's far closer to his ceiling, that's all. Martinez, on the other hand, has two big holes in his prospect portrait-- the lack of plate discipline and the health. If he can resolve these, he should be the superior player defensively, on the basepaths, and all-around (even if the bats seem like they'll probably be a push).
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 18 2011 08:02 AM Re: You're cut |
Gee
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metirish Mar 18 2011 08:05 AM Re: You're cut |
Tankersley's wife gives birth and he gets cut.....tough crowd.....welcome Huck.
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Edgy DC Mar 18 2011 08:06 AM Re: You're cut |
So, cutting the sixth-place-out-of-five-guys Adams is the closest we come to clearing up second base.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 18 2011 08:12 AM Re: You're cut |
Glad to see Turner hanging in there.
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Gwreck Mar 18 2011 08:57 AM Re: You're cut |
Luis Castillo released. (Source: Adam Rubin twitter)
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 18 2011 09:02 AM Re: You're cut |
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Hmmm... asked for his release, huh? Probably a smart move. He'll get his $6 million anyway, and he becomes a free agent, who anyone can sign for the major league minimum. He'll be a Phillie before Monday.
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Edgy DC Mar 18 2011 09:15 AM Re: You're cut |
Congratulations, Andy Martino.
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metsmarathon Mar 18 2011 09:17 AM Re: You're cut |
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he'll probably get ripped for asking to be cut so that he can get his lazy ass his money.
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bmfc1 Mar 18 2011 09:20 AM Re: You're cut |
@jimbaumbach
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metirish Mar 18 2011 09:26 AM Re: You're cut |
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Luis Castillo has been cut by Mets
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Edgy DC Mar 18 2011 09:30 AM Re: You're cut |
Nothing there about asking for his release. Hmmm.
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metirish Mar 18 2011 09:32 AM Re: You're cut |
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yeah , seems quite the opposite to me
there will be a he a miscommunication argument here I bet the next week or more , a he said I said thing.
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metirish Mar 18 2011 09:38 AM Re: You're cut |
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Alderson
Alderson refused to handicap the remaining field of candidates, but Rule 5 pick Brad Emaus appears a leading candidate. He has a supporter in J.P. Ricciardi, who was the general manager who drafted Emaus with the Toronto Blue Jays, and who has a track record of walking more than striking out while displaying power that is in line with the Mets front office’s philosophy. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets
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Edgy DC Mar 18 2011 09:45 AM Re: You're cut |
Also seems to imply that the "asked for his release" thing was a false report.
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Vic Sage Mar 18 2011 09:49 AM Re: You're cut |
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he got as much or more ABs as every other 2b candidate other than Dan Murphy, who they played more to learn if he could handle the position. And what are they going to learn about Castillo that the last 3 years of his career didn't already tell them? That his range has diminished to the point that his defense is no longer an asset? that as a powerless hitter, he relied on a OB% & speed, but his speed is gone, too? Plus, he's a whiner. good riddance. Even if they play Luis Hernandez, he won't contribute less as a #8 hitter than Castillo, and he'll certainly cover more ground. I still think you play Murphy and live with his glove. The guy is producing an .850 OPS this spring.
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Valadius Mar 18 2011 09:51 AM Re: You're cut |
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Edgy DC Mar 18 2011 09:53 AM Re: You're cut |
I agree you go about Murphy, but I think the Mets have given up on making a keystoner of him.
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metirish Mar 18 2011 09:55 AM Re: You're cut |
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How about that though?, play Murph primarily because of his offense but as soon as he starts making errors in the field the masses will start screaming for a glove man over there. It's a fine line to thread no?
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 18 2011 09:59 AM Re: You're cut |
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Agreed on Murphy. But Hernandez is like a walkless Castillo with the bat.
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The Second Spitter Mar 18 2011 10:23 AM Re: You're cut |
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lol@Metsblog
Yes, Matt, we all know you took a crash-course in microeconomics when the new administration took over.
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smg58 Mar 18 2011 12:16 PM Re: You're cut |
The only way the other contestants were going to get enough ABs at this point was to let Castillo go, so you either commit to him now or boot him now. I don't expect the choice to be regretted.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 19 2011 10:30 AM Re: You're cut |
Klapisch: Sandy "caved."
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metsmarathon Mar 19 2011 11:00 AM Re: You're cut |
that's just stupid. at best, castillo is a 1.5 WAR player at this point. murphy easily tops that no matter how murderous his glove.
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Edgy DC Mar 19 2011 11:14 AM Re: You're cut |
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Mets do something. Mets are idiots. Klapisch's next thesis is always predicatable.
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smg58 Mar 19 2011 11:18 AM Re: You're cut |
It's as accurate as his report on Johan earlier in the week was.
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The Second Spitter Mar 19 2011 11:19 AM Re: You're cut |
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How long before the Klap makes his first cunty remark. 1,2,3...
.....4 sentences in!
What are odds that the Klap doesn't support this statement?
This is the best he comes up with why Castillo should be preferred.
So 12 points lower than the ML average is the new standard for acceptability.
Fuck me, if there's a worthless statistic to conjure up an argument, you can guarantee the Klap to find it.
Gee, I don't know, you can start by not being a cunt about it.....sorta like you.
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Edgy DC Mar 19 2011 11:35 AM Re: You're cut |
I don't think that's a worthless stat. He just cribbed it out of context (and without citation) from a far-superior article.
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The Second Spitter Mar 19 2011 11:45 AM Re: You're cut |
For a player like Adam Dunn it may be quite relevant - but for a player who struggles to get the ball out of the infield on a good day, his connecting rate is so not going to tell me a great deal. That's the way I see it, anyway.
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Benjamin Grimm Mar 20 2011 02:32 PM Re: You're cut |
If I have this right, there are 36 guys remaining in camp, and eleven who have to be demoted or disabled or dispatched by next Friday:
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Edgy DC Mar 20 2011 02:58 PM Re: You're cut |
The Roster thread should be up to date. I know Gronauer is gone.
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The Second Spitter Mar 25 2011 07:59 AM Re: You're cut |
Mike O'Connor (or "Snoz" as I prefer to call him) has been re-assigned to minor league camp per Rubin, A.
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themetfairy Mar 25 2011 08:04 AM Re: You're cut |
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That's too bad - I liked what I saw from him this spring.
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smg58 Mar 25 2011 08:38 AM Re: You're cut |
I like him too, but he's not on the 40 and can therefore be demoted, unlike just about everybody else he's competing with. I expect him to be the first guy called up, though.
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Ceetar Mar 25 2011 09:08 AM Re: You're cut |
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well, as a specialist maybe. Sandy hinted that it'd be Igarashi as the next guy to call on.
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Edgy DC Mar 25 2011 09:12 AM Re: You're cut |
That was more in the sense of "We're about to lose some depth due to 40-man roster considerations. Brace for it."
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Ceetar Mar 25 2011 09:17 AM Re: You're cut |
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Fair enough, but also he's been a guy on and off the 40 man already and up here before, so that (provided he's not sucking) would probably factor in versus adding a new guy on. Then again, Iggy's contract status would require him to be demoted through waivers again, where they could option O'Connor if they added him? Ultimately, I think they're 'auditioning' for different roles anyway.
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The Second Spitter Apr 08 2011 10:10 AM Re: You're cut |
Minor leaguers that are goneski -
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Edgy DC Apr 08 2011 10:12 AM Re: You're cut |
Les Walrond will make up a new name and surface again. Maybe he has already.
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