Master Index of Archived Threads


Memories of Luis Castillo

Gwreck Mar 18 2011 08:59 AM

Everybody remembers the worst one. I remember him playing pretty well when he came over to the Mets from the Twins in 2007.

metirish Mar 18 2011 09:06 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

That he played through pain , that he had a good 2009 season and on opening day 2010 it meant nothing as he got booed with vigor. Wrong memories? the contract , the dropped ball, being the poster boy for Miniya's bad contracts.... adios Luis

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 18 2011 09:07 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Not his fault but got a contract that was four times the length it should have been. Not his fault but Mets were never good enough during his stay to thrive with a player of his limited usefulness in the everyday lineup. Not his fault but the Mets didn't have or couldn't find a better option. Also, dropped a popup.

The Second Spitter Mar 18 2011 09:08 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Gwreck wrote: Everybody remembers the worst one. . Geezus, AlBilly's "creepy sun baby" made an appearance in that thread, as well. Coincidence?

Edgy DC Mar 18 2011 09:09 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

This thread.

themetfairy Mar 18 2011 09:17 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

That even after the dropped ball, he STILL would catch balls with only one hand. That drove me absolutely bonkers!

Benjamin Grimm Mar 18 2011 09:21 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Came close enough to becoming Schaefer Mets Player of the Month in July or August of 2009 that I went ahead and prepared this card:

seawolf17 Mar 18 2011 09:22 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

The Second Spitter wrote: Gwreck wrote: Everybody remembers the worst one. . Geezus, AlBilly's "creepy sun baby" made an appearance in that thread, as well. Coincidence? All told, that's a pretty solid IGT by us right there.

bmfc1 Mar 18 2011 09:23 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Bunting. Always bunting. And not covering bases. And being unable to move more than one foot in any direction.

metirish Mar 18 2011 09:23 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

The Second Spitter wrote: Gwreck wrote: Everybody remembers the worst one. . Geezus, AlBilly's "creepy sun baby" made an appearance in that thread, as well. Coincidence? Just read through that thread , the ending sucked but the thread was great....

The Second Spitter Mar 18 2011 09:27 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

God, that steak sandwich looked good.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 18 2011 09:28 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

The Second Spitter wrote: Gwreck wrote: Everybody remembers the worst one. . Geezus, AlBilly's "creepy sun baby" made an appearance in that thread, as well. Coincidence? "Your lack of faith is disturbing, Ozzie."

Willets Point Mar 18 2011 09:28 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

metirish wrote: The Second Spitter wrote: Gwreck wrote: Everybody remembers the worst one. . Geezus, AlBilly's "creepy sun baby" made an appearance in that thread, as well. Coincidence? Just read through that thread , the ending sucked but the thread was great.... Damn, Soupcan told me to fuck myself?!?!

Willets Point Mar 18 2011 09:30 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

This is a funny picture:

metirish Mar 18 2011 09:31 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Willets Point wrote: metirish wrote: The Second Spitter wrote: Gwreck wrote: Everybody remembers the worst one. . Geezus, AlBilly's "creepy sun baby" made an appearance in that thread, as well. Coincidence? Just read through that thread , the ending sucked but the thread was great.... Damn, Soupcan told me to fuck myself?!?! you were a little curt with him though.

metsmarathon Mar 18 2011 09:33 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

i remember him being much better in 2009 than anyone was willing to give him credit for.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 18 2011 09:34 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Usted va al Buffalo en un autobus. Classic.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 18 2011 09:45 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

I yelled "DOS MANOS" at anyone in Metly pinstripes within earshot for weeks, made a baby into an unwelcome IGT staple, made an actual baby, attended three MFY games (including the ALCS clincher) and rooted for Gary Sheffield. That's one crazy-ass summer.

Edgy DC Mar 18 2011 09:48 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I yelled "DOS MANOS" at anyone in Metly pinstripes within earshot for weeks..., I like that. The thing is that two-handed catches is hardly a standard that Luis failed to meet alone. It's not a standard at all, although I imagine some clubs drive it home more than others.

metirish Mar 18 2011 09:49 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Edgy DC wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I yelled "DOS MANOS" at anyone in Metly pinstripes within earshot for weeks..., I like that. The thing is that two-handed catches is hardly a standard that Luis failed to meet alone. It's not a standard at all, although I imagine some clubs drive it home more than others. Didn't Jerry have them do drills for that after the "incident"?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 18 2011 09:57 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Edgy DC wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I yelled "DOS MANOS" at anyone in Metly pinstripes within earshot for weeks..., I like that. The thing is that two-handed catches is hardly a standard that Luis failed to meet alone. It's not a standard at all, although I imagine some clubs drive it home more than others. Once I started paying attention, I found myself getting particularly worked up over Wright (whose defense was quietly regressing in other ways).

G-Fafif Mar 18 2011 10:08 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

He turned a really snazzy double play with Reyes shortly after coming over in '07. Mysteriously reached the second deck in left at Citi Field in '09; I'm pretty sure he was the first Met to do that. Was kept company on the bench the final game at Shea by an injured Moises Alou, who came out of DL purgatory to support the club that was still paying him. I saw a shot of them and strained to remember they were once young and world champions. Saw him from a few feet away on one of the Mets' blogger outreach nights and noted he sported neither horns nor tail (nor range).

seawolf17 Mar 18 2011 10:34 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

metirish wrote: metirish wrote: The Second Spitter wrote: Gwreck wrote: Everybody remembers the worst one. . Geezus, AlBilly's "creepy sun baby" made an appearance in that thread, as well. Coincidence? Just read through that thread , the ending sucked but the thread was great.... Damn, Soupcan told me to fuck myself?!?! you were a little curt with him though. Yeah, that was harsh.

Fman99 Mar 18 2011 10:41 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Dropped the fucking pop up. (That thread is a nugget of greatness, by the way. CPF in full mid-season form.)

Willets Point Mar 18 2011 10:46 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

seawolf17 wrote: metirish wrote: metirish wrote: The Second Spitter wrote: Gwreck wrote: Everybody remembers the worst one. . Geezus, AlBilly's "creepy sun baby" made an appearance in that thread, as well. Coincidence? Just read through that thread , the ending sucked but the thread was great.... Damn, Soupcan told me to fuck myself?!?! you were a little curt with him though. Yeah, that was harsh. Especially coming from Soupy.

metirish Mar 18 2011 10:57 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

LOL ........

smg58 Mar 18 2011 12:19 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

He had a much better 2009 than most people realize, but one very costly play when he was still in the fans' doghouse damned him.

Ashie62 Mar 18 2011 12:29 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

He dropped the damn ball..

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 18 2011 01:07 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Ashie62 wrote: He dropped the damn ball.. Hey you, report to the Klassik Rokk thread now

Ceetar Mar 18 2011 03:08 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

underrated as a Met, wasn't as bad (by even close) defensively as people make him out to be. Seemed to care and tried hard, and was one of the more 'clutch' Mets in his time (just because it's not a three run bomb doesn't mean his RBI singles and not making outs were worthless) In at least two occasions was probably the better option as a steady player versus a 'hope this guy has a hot week or two' option that Manuel didn't utilize. Once due to his rehab in 2008 and coming back on the tail end of some family crisis that prevented him from being up to speed when the maximum rehab days time elapsed and later in 2010 when they rushed him back midseason and then benched him just as he started performing. Seems like he probably still harbored a grudge from that, despite new guys here this year. Not sad to see him go, please cut Luis Hernandez as well ,btw, who sucks.

TransMonk Mar 18 2011 03:16 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Not his fault but got a contract that was four times the length it should have been. Not his fault but Mets were never good enough during his stay to thrive with a player of his limited usefulness in the everyday lineup. Not his fault but the Mets didn't have or couldn't find a better option. This. I don't care about the popup. If it were done against the Marlins, many Mets fans would barely remember. That game meant less than nothing to me in the long run of that less-than-meaningful season.

Ceetar Mar 18 2011 03:50 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

I wonder what they were talking about at 10am this morning...

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 18 2011 07:18 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

"Sandy don't look back. But is that creep with the camera still checking out my ass?"

MFS62 Mar 18 2011 08:27 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

I remember some very generous scoring decisions at home in 2009 on some of his 19 sac bunts. More than a few were attempts for a base hit. Turn a few of those into outs, and his BA might have dropped below .300. But alll in all, he wasn't as terrible as some major league regulars. Just not quite as good as we would have wanted him to be. Later

Edgy DC Mar 18 2011 09:17 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Everybody in baseball, if they bunt a guy over while attempting to beat it out, will tend to get credited with a sacrifce. The implication that he was manipulating the scoring system to achieve a .300 batting average is absurd.

MFS62 Mar 18 2011 09:23 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Of course, Castillo had nothing to do with those decisions. I never said that he tried to manipulate anything. There have always been scoring decisions that favor the home team. I'm just saying that I remember (the topic of the thread, right?) some obvious ones. Later

Edgy DC Mar 18 2011 09:29 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

No, neither did I say that you said it. I said you implied it. Which you did.

The Second Spitter Mar 19 2011 12:29 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

smg58 wrote: He had a much better 2009 than most people realize, The fifth most productive 2B in MLB according to the Runs Created statistic. Edgy DC wrote: Everybody in baseball, if they bunt a guy over while attempting to beat it out, will tend to get credited with a sacrifce.. Fangraphs discusses this and his abnormally low BABIP last year, in making the case why the Phillies should bite. Castillo’s 2010 numbers were dragged down by a .259 BABIP, which is absurdly low for a guy who hit the ball on the ground 70 percent of the time. While it’s easy to say that a guy with no power was just hitting into easy outs too often, his BABIPs since 2007 are .325, .267, .338, and .259. His career mark is .329, by the way. While he’s lost a good amount of his speed from earlier in his career, and shouldn’t be expected to post another .330 BABIP, .259 is simply too low to be repeated. That’s the kind of BABIP you expect from a lumbering fly ball hitter, not a guy who bunts with regularity. Marcel projects Castillo’s BABIP to bounce back to .288, which is pretty reasonable given his current skillset. Combined with his walk rate, that gives him a 2011 projected line of .257/.345/.321. Not exactly a superstar, but a .340 on base percentage from your emergency second baseman isn’t the worst thing in the world. That projected .307 wOBA, by the way, is better than any single year mark Valdez has posted, and blows away his career .271 mark.

Edgy DC Mar 19 2011 07:19 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

I agree with that, and was privately hoping the Mets would at least hang onto him long enough for the Phillies to bite, and maybe give the Mets a little something for him, or maybe pick up a few dollars of his salary. What that contrast doesn't include, however, is defense.

Ashie62 Mar 20 2011 10:49 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Phillies, Cubs, Marlins and Orioles after Castillo? [url]http://eye-on-baseball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22297882/27978034 He could start for any of these.

Edgy DC Mar 20 2011 11:30 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

I think he'll sign with whichever is the first to offer him a four-year deal.

Farmer Ted Mar 23 2011 06:54 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

I always held back on criticizing Castillo. I thought that sometime, somewhere he would redeem himself of any bad karma...in a big way. It never happended. And now he has the odasity to say that the Mets never gave him a chance this spring. Luis, you piece of shit. All you had to do is beat out four other guys with a total of 20 major league games under their combined belts at 2B. That's it. I was there in PSL on Tuesday when you fell asleep and never covered first on the 3-2-4 double play. And that's how I'll remember you, falling asleep; sleep walking through 365 games in the royal blue and orange. Have fun sniffing Utley's taint.

metirish Mar 23 2011 07:00 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Farmer Ted wrote: I always held back on criticizing Castillo. I thought that sometime, somewhere he would redeem himself of any bad karma...in a big way. It never happended. And now he has the odasity to say that the Mets never gave him a chance this spring. Luis, you piece of shit. All you had to do is beat out four other guys with a total of 20 major league games under their combined belts at 2B. That's it. I was there in PSL on Tuesday when you fell asleep and never covered first on the 3-2-4 double play. And that's how I'll remember you, falling asleep; sleep walking through 365 games in the royal blue and orange. Have fun sniffing Utley's taint. damning to say the least.....saw a tweet about him showing up a day late for the phillies and that Manuel was pissed with him already....

Ceetar Mar 23 2011 07:03 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

metirish wrote: Farmer Ted wrote: I always held back on criticizing Castillo. I thought that sometime, somewhere he would redeem himself of any bad karma...in a big way. It never happended. And now he has the odasity to say that the Mets never gave him a chance this spring. Luis, you piece of shit. All you had to do is beat out four other guys with a total of 20 major league games under their combined belts at 2B. That's it. I was there in PSL on Tuesday when you fell asleep and never covered first on the 3-2-4 double play. And that's how I'll remember you, falling asleep; sleep walking through 365 games in the royal blue and orange. Have fun sniffing Utley's taint. damning to say the least.....saw a tweet about him showing up a day late for the phillies and that Manuel was pissed with him already.... That was presumably blown out of proportion, as all things are. Manuel just assumed that he'd showed up and wrote his name down without ever even seeing him. Sounds like they expected him to drive over Monday night, and he figured he'd stay with hisfamily or whereever he went after he was cut and leave Tuesday morning.

metirish Mar 23 2011 07:17 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

blown all out of proportion sure......but geez Luis , get over there no?

Ceetar Mar 23 2011 07:47 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

metirish wrote: blown all out of proportion sure......but geez Luis , get over there no? yeah. Once they were finalizing details of the deal probably would've been wise to get in the car and head over there. He probably thinks the jobs gonna be handed to him in Utley's absense.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 23 2011 09:17 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Ceetar wrote: That was presumably blown out of proportion, as all things are. Manuel just assumed that he'd showed up and wrote his name down without ever even seeing him. Sounds like they expected him to drive over Monday night, and he figured he'd stay with hisfamily or whereever he went after he was cut and leave Tuesday morning. This. Except add a day in between-- they signed him Sunday afternoon, pencilled him in for the next day and Tuesday, then found out on Monday that he wasn't leaving his house until Tuesday morning.

themetfairy Mar 23 2011 10:39 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

He's a real go-getter....

Benjamin Grimm Mar 23 2011 11:04 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Face it, his career is winding down. He's earning $6 million either way. He can work hard and try to extend his career, but he still may not be able to get himself a contract from anyone for 2012. So why not start his retirement a little earlier and enjoy himself this year, while being paid handsomely to do so. I don't know for sure that that's how he's thinking, of course. But if Castillo senses that he's done anyway, I can understand his lack of motivation.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 23 2011 11:13 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Then why sign the minor-league deal with the Phils now?

Benjamin Grimm Mar 23 2011 11:37 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

He may be trying to motivate himself. Who knows? I'm just groping in the dark here. His effort to continue his career has seemed awfully half-hearted, hasn't it?

Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 11:39 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Maybe, but I think that's maybe drawing too much from too little.

Frayed Knot Mar 23 2011 11:53 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Castillo in the lineup for today's Phillies - playing 2nd, batting 2nd.

The Second Spitter Mar 24 2011 09:55 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Improves to 0 for 8 as a Philly.

Frayed Knot Mar 24 2011 09:57 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

The Second Spitter wrote: Improves to 0 for 8 as a Philly. On top of today's news that Chase Utley will almost certainly start the year on the DL.

metirish Mar 25 2011 10:03 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

According to a Philly guy on twitter there is every chance Castillo will be released by the Phillies , things not going good apparently.

Edgy DC Mar 25 2011 10:12 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Just giving in to the fan outrage.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 25 2011 10:16 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

metirish wrote: According to a Philly guy on twitter there is every chance Castillo will be released by the Phillies , things not going good apparently. Utley's so annoyed by the lateness, he got up off of his stool and stood. Why, I hear he's considering writing a stern letter to the community newspaper about the whole thing.

Edgy DC Mar 25 2011 10:24 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

For what it's worth, many Philly blogs were on fire ripping the Mets when the Walter Reed non-story broke last season. (When a similar visit by the Phils produced a lower turnout, not so much.)

metirish Mar 30 2011 11:07 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Released by Phillies

Edgy DC Mar 30 2011 11:11 AM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Wonder if they're putting up a "Memories of Luis Castillo" thread over at sonsofvonhayes.com.

Valadius Mar 30 2011 01:57 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

The move leaves Wilson Valdez as the Phillies second baseman.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 30 2011 02:02 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

Cue Wilson Valdez's out-of-nowhere All-Star season. (see: Shane Victorino 2008, Raul Ibanez 2009, Carlos Ruiz 2010)

Ashie62 Mar 30 2011 03:52 PM Re: Memories of Luis Castillo

metirish wrote: According to a Philly guy on twitter there is every chance Castillo will be released by the Phillies , things not going good apparently. Irish nails it.