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Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Kong76 Mar 20 2011 12:29 PM

I know it's not the top CPF genre, but thought I throw this up and see if anyone has some opinions. Ronnie James kickin' ass from the urn!! 19- David Lee Roth 18- Geoff Tate 17- Paul Stanley 16- Joe Elliott 15- Ozzy 14- Klaus Meine 13- Bruce Dickenson 12- Geddy Lee 11- Ian Astbury 10-James Hetfield 09- Sammy Hagar 08- Rob Halford 07- Robert Plant 06- David Coverdale 05- Brian Johnson 04- Axl Rose 03- Steven Tyler 02- Bon Scott 01- Ronnie James Dio Tyler is way too high, so is Coverdale. Love that Scott is still so appreciated.

Edgy DC Mar 20 2011 01:15 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Love that Scott is still appreciated, but probably still too high. Axl lost it early. Plant probably deserves higher considering how he recognized what he was doing wasn't sustainable and re-invented himself. Plus considering the breadth of imitators. Speaking of imitators, Coverdale over Plant? Come on. Omissions that jump out at me: Ian Gillan, Iggy Pop (too punk for the boneyard?), and some grunge guys with metuhl deliveries maybe like Chris Cornell.

Kong76 Mar 20 2011 01:32 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Didn't even notice that Ian is missing. Shit, he could easily be in the top 7-8! Yeah, Iggy isn't Boneyard material. Big Bon Scott fan ... If You Want Blood, You've Got It is my second favorite live album of all time.

Edgy DC Mar 20 2011 01:38 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Lemmy?

Kong76 Mar 20 2011 01:43 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Should probably be snuck in there somewhere.

Edgy DC Mar 20 2011 01:45 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Dee Snider Freddy Mercury Don Dokken

Kong76 Mar 20 2011 01:55 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Thought of Mercury, they don't play Queen much on Boneyard for some reason if at all. Rob Zombie, Alice Cooper?

Edgy DC Mar 20 2011 01:57 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Kong76 wrote: for some reason if at all. Flame-aphopbia? Queen's drummer probably outsang a half dozen guys on that list.

Kong76 Mar 20 2011 02:00 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Not with Halford standing erect at #8.

Edgy DC Mar 20 2011 02:11 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

vs.

Kong76 Mar 20 2011 03:15 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Someone start a 'who's gayer' thread NOW!!! (and no, not between Edge and I smart asses, between Halford and Mercury)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 20 2011 03:53 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 20 2011 05:34 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Lemmy? Lemmy's probably closer to "attitude" than "pipes," no? On chops alone, Geoff Tate probably deserves a bump. Also, if we're really considering chops, the ultraversatile Mike Patton (Faith No More, Mr. Bungle) strikes me as a big omission. Layne Staley? The guy from Tool (OE: Oh, yeah-- Maynard James Keenan)? Also, I didn't love his band, but... Sebastian Bach, maybe? (OE: Also opera-trained... and now a Broadway vet!) Although... Coverdale over Plant-- hell, Coverdale over Tate, or Hagar, or Hetfield, or Dickinson-- kinda makes me think that, instead of Hulking out over anything here, I should shake my head, stick my thumb out, and move on to the next town.

metirish Mar 20 2011 05:25 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Agree on Tate , great singer, Elliot was and is an absolutely terrible live singer ,shouldn't be on the list at all. Sebastian Bach was a hell of a live singer and could have made this list over Elliot.

metirish Mar 20 2011 05:27 PM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Kong76 wrote: Not with Halford standing erect at #8. brilliant

The Second Spitter Mar 21 2011 12:18 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Sebastian Bach was a hell of a live singer [...]. This. Saw SR in concert, he rocked the house....and it was a very large house. Somebody please explain: why does Vince Neil get shat on?

Edgy DC Mar 21 2011 05:49 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Because I think the Boneyard is in part about disassociating "real" metal from the hair band revival of the late eighties. While the Crüe pre-dates that, they rather peaked there. Ergo, no Neil, no Bach, no Jani Lane, no Gary Cherone, no Bret Michaels, no bald Quiet Riot guy, and no Bon Jersey. How Coverdale survives that purging, I dunno, because Whitesnake was all in that, and his main other claim to history is replacing the list-absent Ian Gillan in Deep Purple, and no DP fan looks at that as a step forward.

The Second Spitter Mar 21 2011 06:23 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

That makes sense. Gary Cherone. Heh. Famous for being the answer to a trivia question.

Edgy DC Mar 21 2011 07:20 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Yabbut, despite being responsible the extremely awful ballad that broke the hair band camel's back, Extreme wasn't exactly a parade of suck. They did, from my point of view, the best set during the Freddy Mercury tribute, and had the guts to do "I Want to Break Free." [youtube:1yxfyyck]_NvnfXJK0Uw[/youtube:1yxfyyck] (Not that I went out and bought their albums the next day or anything.)

metirish Mar 21 2011 07:23 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

I don't disagree with Edgy here but the list loses credibility(did it ever have any?) if you go with your thinking. If Coverdale , Hager and Elliot are in but Neil , Bach and Bon Jovi are not when essentially they are interchangeable then it's all bollox isn't it?

Edgy DC Mar 21 2011 07:27 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Don't forget Bald Quiet Riot Guy.

metirish Mar 21 2011 07:31 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Edgy DC wrote: Yabbut, despite being responsible the extremely awful ballad that broke the hair band camel's back, Extreme wasn't exactly a parade of suck. They did, from my point of view, the best set during the Freddy Mercury tribute, and had the guts to do "I Want to Break Free." [youtube]_NvnfXJK0Uw[/youtube] (Not that I went out and bought their albums the next day or anything.) What a memory , and you are right , they were great that day, one thing that set Extreme apart was the brilliant axe work of Nuno Bettencourt. And let's add Ian Astbury to the list of lucky ones to make the cut, loved The Cult and for a time in my youth I even bought into his fake lizard king/goth look. Seawolf needs to be heard in this thread.

The Second Spitter Mar 21 2011 07:44 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

metirish wrote: And let's add Ian Astbury to the list of lucky ones to make the cut, loved The Cult and for a time in my youth I even bought into his fake lizard king/goth look.. He was a hot-looking chick in his day.

TransMonk Mar 21 2011 07:45 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Kong76 wrote: Love that Scott is still so appreciated. Should have been #1.

seawolf17 Mar 21 2011 09:27 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Okay, I'm here. Vince Neil is a terrible, terrible singer, and what Lemmy does isn't technically "singing" at all. And yeah, I don't think Queen gets a whole lot of Boneyard love, or else Freddie would be Top Five. 19- David Lee Roth: Not much of a singer, really. All show. 18- Geoff Tate: Great, great voice, but tends to be a little overblown. 17- Paul Stanley: You're kidding, right? 16- Joe Elliott: Awful live, but distinctive. 15- Ozzy: Is this list going up or down? Just kidding. I know he's now clinically insane, but he should be a lot higher. 14- Klaus Meine: Yeah, I'll put him in the top 20. 13- Bruce Dickenson: That's also a win. 12- Geddy Lee: Certainly distinctive, but I'm not a fan. 11- Ian Astbury: Not a Cult fan either. 10- James Hetfield: Singing, or growling? 09- Sammy Hagar: Really?!?! 08- Rob Halford: Yes, definitely yes. 07- Robert Plant: Also definitely yes. 06- David Coverdale: Should not, under any circumstances, be ahead of Plant. 05- Brian Johnson: Sure. 04- Axl Rose: Probably not this high. 03- Steven Tyler: Yes. 02- Bon Scott: Sure. 01- Ronnie James Dio: I'm okay with Dio at the top. I guess it depends on what you mean by "top." Influence? Talent? Sound? The top eight are all pretty damn solid. I'd add Ozzy and Bruce Dickinson to the top ten. Gary Cherone should definitely be on the list; and you're right, their performance at the Freddie Mercury tribute was incredible. Surprised JBJ and Sebastian Bach aren't there too. Wild cards nobody's mentioned: Mark Slaughter before he got old and lost his voice, the Nelson brothers, Mike Matijevic from Steelheart, the guy from Nitro who married Lita Ford and could break glasses with his high notes (Jim Gillette). Non-hair band wild cards: Chris Cornell before he got old and lost his voice, Serj Tankian from System of a Down.

The Second Spitter Mar 21 2011 09:30 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

seawolf17 wrote: Okay, I'm here. Vince Neil is a terrible, terrible singer, . I disagree -- and I think "Without You" proves he's a pretty good singer.

metirish Mar 21 2011 09:32 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Nice Wolf , I had thought of Slaughter , speaking of wild cards how about Tom Keifer from Cinderella, guy had some pipes. Disagree on Neil though , "Don't go away mad" and "without you" are brilliant.

seawolf17 Mar 21 2011 09:33 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Steelheart's Mike Matijevic (money notes from 3:00-3:28): [youtube:2fus7ctf]F-nyeiKk35M[/youtube:2fus7ctf] Mark Slaughter: [youtube:2fus7ctf]ukmobha2krY[/youtube:2fus7ctf] I'll throw Tom Keifer and Jeff Keith into the group of "guys I could listen to all day," although neither one is exactly a contender for American Idol. And I can't believe I forgot Jani Lane, who isn't the greatest vocalist, but might be the best songwriter of his era.

seawolf17 Mar 21 2011 09:35 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

I'm not saying I don't like Motley Crue. I'm just saying that Vince Neil is the Derek Jeter of hair metal vocalists.

The Second Spitter Mar 21 2011 09:39 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

metirish wrote: Nice Wolf , I had thought of Slaughter , speaking of wild cards how about Tom Keifer from Cinderella, guy had some pipes. Disagree on Neil though , "Don't go away mad" and "without you" are brilliant. I love DGAM. They did another ballad, which they sung with Seb Bach, "Time for change" which better showcases Neil's singing prowess. That entire album reminds me of our 1991 Championship....goosebumps I tell you.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 21 2011 09:40 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

The Second Spitter wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Okay, I'm here. Vince Neil is a terrible, terrible singer, . I disagree -- and I think "Without You" proves he's a pretty good singer. Neil is the one with the fatty, bluesy voice, yes? I agree, he's got something.

metirish Mar 21 2011 09:40 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Damn , when the MTV music awards were good....1990 [youtube:3965e9x1]1&list=PLC96D681AD94231BA[/youtube:3965e9x1] Time for change is fucking awesome.. did my video show up? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXhfnUAj ... 1AD94231BA

Fman99 Mar 21 2011 10:32 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Edgy DC wrote: How Coverdale survives that purging, I dunno, because Whitesnake was all in that, and his main other claim to history is replacing the list-absent Ian Gillan in Deep Purple, and no DP fan looks at that as a step forward. You won't find a bigger DP fan than me.

Edgy DC Mar 21 2011 10:40 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

And... would you agree?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 21 2011 10:49 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 21 2011 10:50 AM

Resubmitted for your consideration: Mike Patton. Percussive vocals for stompy-singalong rap-rock, straightfaced crooning on surprisingly credible covers, squealing guitar-solo mimicry, Slayer or Lemmy-like growls on demand, and demented mixes of it all on Fantomas' cut-and-paste metal weirdness. [youtube]1qAzdEXawM8[/youtube] Youtube's being weird-- here's a nice sampler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qAzdEXawM8

TransMonk Mar 21 2011 10:50 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

I'd vote for Patton.

Edgy DC Mar 21 2011 10:57 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

I know Patton from Faith No More and from some John Zorn ensemble, but I suppose such a resume isn't what they're looking for.

seawolf17 Mar 21 2011 11:07 AM Re: Sirrius Boneyard's Top 19 Vocalists

Forgot Patton, but yeah, he's not Boneyard material. His "Mondo Cane" disc from last year is actually really neat; covers of Italian film music.