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AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk
Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 08:42 AM |
More or less In order of prominence, if not necessarily quality.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2011 08:46 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Molly Hatchet was also a Jacksonville band.
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Chad Ochoseis Mar 23 2011 08:51 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Black Oak Arkansas is from Black Oak, Arkansas.
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 08:52 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
OK, yeah. I can totally see that.
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Frayed Knot Mar 23 2011 08:59 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
No way can Skynyrd be ahead of the Allmans in a list of prominence or quality.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2011 09:01 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
I'd count .38 Special as a "Southern Rock." They were certainly on the lighter side of it, and seemed to come after the phenomenon was a branded thing, but I do believe they featured the twin-guitar, twin-drummer lineup at least for a while.
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 09:06 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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Take it easy, soldier of rock. I clearly state that quality isn't part of the formula. If it was, they'd be, like, eighth. But as for prominence, the legacy that they have now is what we're talking about: two top-ten classic rawk tunes, Kid Rock remaking himself as their disciple, KFC commercials, Ruben Stoddard. Their star in death shines higher on the horizon than it did it in life, true, but shine it does. That's what the surviving Allman Brothers get for surviving. As for .38 Special, it was their eighties-ness that put them onto the auxiliary lineup.
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Frayed Knot Mar 23 2011 09:08 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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Or a couple of them anyway.
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Frayed Knot Mar 23 2011 09:18 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Charlie Daniels: The South's Gonna Do It Again
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2011 09:23 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
(begs LWFS to re-publish his new-style Charlie Daniels lyrics)
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 09:51 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Not every subgenre is blessed with such an explicit and boundary-defining call to arms. That song is practially a Wikipedia article.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2011 10:17 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
I owned this song on 45 way back when. Still pretty good! Southern fried soul and harmonies.
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Fman99 Mar 23 2011 10:33 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Go back and listen to the Doobie Brothers first self titled album. It's as country rock as you can get, and also quite good listening.
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 10:42 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
They are, soundwise, and certainly seventies-wise, but their Northern California-y-ness kind of puts them into a different zeitgeist in my mind. I think they (and Pure Prarie League, by that measure) go on the "Related Acts" folder.
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batmagadanleadoff Mar 23 2011 10:43 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
I would remove Big Brother from the associated list. They played experimental psychedelia and added a heavy dose of the blues when Janis joined. The only thing southern about Big Brother is that they were based south (and west) of the Mason-Dixon line, in San Francisco.
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 10:45 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Yeah, they're probably too far outside the beta-circle. If they're half-in, then the Stones maybe are also.
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batmagadanleadoff Mar 23 2011 10:46 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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You could probably compile a double album, at least, of Stones country songs.
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sharpie Mar 23 2011 10:48 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Elvin Bishop was also a San Francisco guy when he hit. CCR was from Oakland.
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batmagadanleadoff Mar 23 2011 10:49 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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Johnny Cash's cover of "No Expectations" rolls like a freight train: [youtube]aXEraKEqKP8[/youtube]
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 10:51 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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Ergo, the Associated Acts list.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 23 2011 11:40 AM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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Can Geico save you up to fifteen percent on car insurance? Is the "Search" tool ultra-useful? (Nice slam-dunk contest of a thread, off a great feed from FK.)
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Frayed Knot Mar 23 2011 12:03 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
So I guess 'Gov't Mule' and 'Derek Trucks Band' are the current bands carrying the flag for the southern boys.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2011 12:14 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
As I recall it, the tipping point of "southern Rock" becoming a phenomenon, and referred to as such, was with the K-Tel album SOUTHERN FRIED ROCK, which had a picture of eggs on an iron skillet on the cover. The commercial gave you snippets of all the songs on it and the scroll, and you were like, "Wow. That's a lotta great rock!"
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 23 2011 12:18 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Where does Little Feat fit in? And Ram Jam?
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 12:24 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
I dunno. Did the Feat actually rock? Was Ram Jam actually southern. It's still coming together.
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TheOldMole Mar 23 2011 12:30 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
[youtube:12bkc1dt]xy8ba2eL7cI[/youtube:12bkc1dt]
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Ashie62 Mar 23 2011 12:44 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Blackfoot was based in Morris County NJ in the seventies.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2011 12:46 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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What a song though. Let that feelin' grab you deep inside and send you reelin' where your love can't hide and then go stealin' through the moonlit nights with your lover
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2011 12:50 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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Gotta like the guitar player's t-shirt.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 23 2011 01:19 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
I once won a bet where, if I'd lost, I would have had to make and wear a t-shirt with my name on it for two weeks. (My friend ended up welching on his end-- eating a third party's shaved goatee-- instead paying for my drinks for a weekend or two.)
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Vic Sage Mar 23 2011 02:09 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
I loved me some boogie-woogie rockin' in the culturally barren 70s. But its popularity was based on the success of such late 60s-early 70s groups as CANNED HEAT, which may not have been "southern" in geography, but was certainly southern in style. And if your including PURE PRAIRIE LEAGUE country-rock (which you seem to have done), then other 70s acts to consider include:
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Vic Sage Mar 23 2011 02:16 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
oh, and i forgot one of my faves, right down the middle of "southern rock" - The Henry Paul Band; their album GREY GHOST still rocks.
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 02:19 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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Pure Prarie League has already been declared a scratch.
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Vic Sage Mar 23 2011 02:27 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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well, never mind then. I still think you should include HENRY PAUL BAND, and LITTLE FEAT.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2011 02:29 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
I'm listening to "Grey Ghost" right now and thinking, this is pretty much "Green Grass and High Tides" all over again ... only to realize that Henry Paul is an x-Outlaw.
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 02:34 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
To contain things, I think we should pretty much go with the following necessary conditions:
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 23 2011 02:41 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
I see Feat fans intersecting more with Dead fans than Allman Bros. fans.
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 02:44 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Who's wussier?
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G-Fafif Mar 23 2011 02:45 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Point Blank shot to its commercial peak in 1981.
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 02:50 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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Good point. Checking Wikipedia.
Meat of their catalog skews toward the seventies. But their biggest hit singe comes in 1981. Formed in 1974, sort of second-wavey for a genre whose gods got it going earlier. Their eighties sound wasn't really Southern Rock. This may be a reject.
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Frayed Knot Mar 23 2011 03:07 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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Most definitely. The worst thing about the Dead wasn't the band so much as it was their fans* and when a dead-head would take over the stereo at a college party the only non-Dead music that stood even a remote chance of being played was either Little Feat or New Riders of the Purple Sage. Laid-back hippie music was a different breed than guitar-heavy southern rock even if there were more similarities than fans of either side would like to admit. * insert 'Yankees' or any other least-liked sports team for 'dead-heads' and apply that logic liberally And, yeah, Henry Paul was a break-away from The Outlaws. The more balladic (though still with the requisite lengthy guitar riff) 'So Long' was maybe his/their biggest hit. [youtube]Nyt4Y153OF4[/youtube]
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sharpie Mar 23 2011 03:13 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
I think of Little Feat as being a Southern California band and not in the Southern Rock school at all. I don't think Marshall Crenshaw/Lynyrd Skynyrd fans would be happy if one of those band's records were taken off and Little Feat put on instead.
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Vic Sage Mar 23 2011 03:16 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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Agreed, and you might add PURE PRAIRIE LEAGUE and HOT TUNA/JORMA to that Deadhead mix. If the deadhead had a momentary spasm of MOR "why are the girls leaving" panic, you might even hear AMERICA.
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Vic Sage Mar 23 2011 03:19 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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um... TUCKER. MARSHALL TUCKER. Crenshaw's a whole other kettle o grits. But if that's the test, i don't think there's alot of crossover between ARS and Molly Hatchett either. but i could be wrong.
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Frayed Knot Mar 23 2011 03:20 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
The DH tunnel-vision was almost frightening at times.
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Vic Sage Mar 23 2011 03:21 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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like any other cult. but without the kool-aid.
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Vic Sage Mar 23 2011 03:43 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 23 2011 03:46 PM |
as for LITTLE FEAT, while they may have had stronger leanings toward a southern-Jazz fusion style, their best album, FEATS DON'T FAIL ME NOW, from 1974, featured such songs as OH, ATLANTA which sounds like any other southern rock band's anthem. I will grant you that Lowell George is more multi-talented musician/writer/producer than most of his contemporaries, but i don't think his obvious superiority should deny him a place on our list.
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Frayed Knot Mar 23 2011 03:45 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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Which inevitably leads us to the old joke about what one Dead fan said to the other when the drugs ran out? -- "Hey man, this music SUCKS!"
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Vic Sage Mar 23 2011 03:47 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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don't get me started on that subject...
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metsguyinmichigan Mar 23 2011 03:56 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Never got the whole Southern rock thing.
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Vic Sage Mar 23 2011 04:06 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Oh, Atlanta - LITTLE FEAT, 1974
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Willets Point Mar 23 2011 06:34 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
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I'm waiting for a P-Funk/Southern Rock crossover now.
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 07:14 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
A recent Skynyrd lineup.
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Edgy DC Mar 23 2011 09:24 PM Re: AH YEAH! A Crane Pool Guide to Seventies Southern Rawk |
Among the greatest testimony to the ascendency of Southern Rock is the number of high profile bands that certainly weren't of that genre but had at least one SR song in their catalog. "Life in the Fast Lane" may have been one more Eagles song about the spiritual emptiness of the Southern California lifestyle, but it was Southern Rocker through and through. Queen had "Fat-Bottomed Girls." Clapton had "Lay Down Sally."
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