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Benjamin Grimm
Mar 30 2011 08:44 AM

Voting for the 2011 Schaefer Mets Player of the Year Award will begin on Friday, April 1, the Crane Pool Forum has announced. This will be the seventh season that Crane Pool Forum members will be participating in Schaefer voting. The Schaefer Mets Player of the Year Award was established in the 1970's, and Schaefer points were awarded by Mets broadcasters Lindsey Nelson, Ralph Kiner, and Bob Murphy.

The award was re-established by the Crane Pool Forum in 2005. Third baseman David Wright has been the winner in in five of the six years of the revived prize, with pitcher Johan Santana's 2008 win being the one interruption to Wright's winning streak.

A voting thread is opened in the forum at the conclusion of each regular season Mets game, according to CPF spokesmodel Benjamin Grimm. Voting generally stays open for two business days, after which the votes are tallied and the results are posted in the voting thread. In addition, says Grimm, each month a Schaefer Mets Player, Pitcher, and Relief Pitcher of the Month will be named.

Voters are asked to adhere to a specific format, which is outlined at http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/6200/f9_t6278.shtml

The Second Spitter
Mar 30 2011 08:50 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Schaefer voting is tops.

I'll also be running a concurrent competition to the Schaefer Player of the Game;

The Tango With Added Tango Player of the Game.



G-Fafif
Mar 30 2011 09:01 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Looking forward to Honoree of the Month Grimm Cards.

themetfairy
Mar 30 2011 10:28 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Thank you BG - I'm looking forward to this :)

TransMonk
Mar 30 2011 10:36 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I'm making a late new year's resolution to participate more in the SPotG votes.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 30 2011 10:43 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The Second Spitter wrote:
Schaefer voting is tops.

I'll also be running a concurrent competition to the Schaefer Player of the Game;

The Tango With Added Tango Player of the Game.





Player who most riled your stomach acid that month?

I have two cans of this-- sans extra Tango-- from a trip to London 15 years ago, sitting in my folks' garage in Jersey. I kinda want to keep 'em around for another few decades, see what that does to 'em.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 30 2011 11:38 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

themetfairy wrote:
Thank you BG - I'm looking forward to this :)


You're welcome! Hard to believe that this silly little tradition is entering its seventh year!

Frayed Knot
Mar 30 2011 11:43 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The 'Tango with Extra Tango' sounds like a liquid version of the Monty Python Spam routine.

Ceetar
Mar 30 2011 11:44 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

TransMonk wrote:
I'm making a late new year's resolution to participate more in the SPotG votes.


So is Jose Reyes.

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 30 2011 12:54 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

A little bit of recapping here:

Past Annual Winners:
PLAYER OF THE YEAR
2005 David Wright
2006 David Wright
2007 David Wright
2008 Johan Santana
2009 David Wright
2010 David Wright

PITCHER OF THE YEAR
2005 Pedro Martinez
2006 Tom Glavine
2007 Tom Glavine
2008 Johan Santana
2009 Johan Santana
2010 Johan Santana

RELIEVER OF THE YEAR
2008 Aaron Heilman
2009 Francisco Rodriguez
2010 Hisanori Takahashi


Number of times players have won the monthly awards:
PLAYER OF THE MONTH
David Wright 10
Johan Santana 6
Carlos Beltran 5
José Reyes 3
Cliff Floyd 2
Tom Glavine 2
Carlos Delgado 2
Mike Cameron 1
John Maine 1
Angel Pagan 1
Jeff Francoeur 1
R. A. Dickey 1
Ike Davis 1

PITCHER OF THE MONTH
Johan Santana 9
Pedro Martinez 6
John Maine 5
Tom Glavine 3
Mike Pelfrey 3
Orlando Hernandez 2
R. A. Dickey 2
Alay Soler 1
Steve Trachsel 1
Oliver Perez 1
Livan Hernandez 1
Tim Redding 1
Dillon Gee 1

RELIEVER OF THE MONTH
Brian Stokes 5
Francisco Rodriguez 2
Raul Valdes 2
Billy Wagner 1
Aaron Heilman 1
Duaner Sanchez 1
Scott Schoeneweis 1
Pedro Feliciano 1
Sean Green 1
Fernando Nieve 1
Hisanori Takahashi 1
Elmer Dessens 1

Edgy DC
Mar 30 2011 01:02 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I think we need to change Schaefer Reliever of the Month to the Brian Stokes Award.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 30 2011 01:04 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Love it. Go Alay Soler!

G-Fafif
Mar 30 2011 01:11 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

"The monthly awards" sounds like a euphemism for what nice girls get.

Willets Point
Mar 30 2011 01:19 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

G-Fafif wrote:
"The monthly awards" sounds like a euphemism for what nice girls get.


Fman, is that you?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 30 2011 01:23 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

G-Fafif wrote:
"The monthly awards" sounds like a euphemism for what nice girls get.


"Last month was murder, Tara. I'm talking two Tonys and an ESPY to boot."

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 30 2011 01:37 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Looks like we're likely to have a first-time winner for the Pitcher of the Year in 2011, unless Santana comes back sooner and stronger than we expect, and everyone else struggles. Pelfrey and Dickey are probably licking their chops at the chance that they have this year to dethrone Johan.

It'll be nice if somebody were to step up and give David a strong challenge for Player of the Year. The betting in Vegas, last time I looked, has him as a very strong favorite.

Reliever of the Year, our quirkiest category, is as wide open as ever.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 30 2011 01:52 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Give me odds, and I'll take Buchholz over Frankie; the force is strong in that one.

The Second Spitter
Apr 02 2011 09:18 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

What is the formula used to ascertain the POTM, etc awards?

If you don't wish to disclose it, can you at least tell me if, for example, I give Pelfrey 0.05 as opposed to not registering any vote whether this disadvantages him?

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 02 2011 09:35 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

No, there's no secret.

Giving Pelfrey 0.05 is essentially no different than giving him a zero.

Let's say a player totals 15 points. If there were ten voters, he'd get a 1.5.

If Pelfrey gets a total of 0.05 from ten voters, that would end up being a 0.005, which, with rounding, would net him .01 points. But if there were eleven voters, that 0.05 would become 0.045, which would become a zero.

Whoever totals the most points in games played in April is the Player (or Pitcher or Reliever) of the Month.

Results of past games and raw data is available to anyone who's interested. Just go to http://potg.ultimatemets.com/

Ashie62
Apr 02 2011 10:28 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

How about the Four Loko POG?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 02 2011 09:21 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Ashie62 wrote:
How about the Four Loko POG?


For the player most likely to make you vomit, have an aneurysm, and make your heart explode, simultaneously.

The Second Spitter
Apr 03 2011 07:04 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Benjamin Grimm wrote:

If Pelfrey gets a total of 0.05 from ten voters, that would end up being a 0.005, which, with rounding, would net him .01 points. But if there were eleven voters, that 0.05 would become 0.045, which would become a zero.


Okay thanks. I thought it was an issue because in Frayed Knot's guidelines it says that zero votes will be disregarded.

Any zero votes will be tossed, as they would drag down the totals of those who did vote. If you think there was a game where everybody sucked, just don't vote.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 03 2011 07:31 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

That would only happen if you voted:

Pelfrey 0

and didn't give any points to anyone else.

The Second Spitter
Apr 03 2011 07:36 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Oh, I see. Cheers.

G-Fafif
Apr 03 2011 02:53 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Combine April 3 POTG threads, por favor.

The Second Spitter
Apr 04 2011 08:42 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

m.e.t.b.o.t.'s back and judging from its Game 1 ratings, very angry.

m.e.t.b.o.t.
Apr 04 2011 09:57 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

in the first game of the season, only one metropolitan player performed in such a way as to have a net positive impact on the probability of the metropolitans' winning hte game. that one player was metropolitan relief pitcher pedro beato. in his two innings of work the metropolitan's win probability improved from 0.025 to 0.031 in the 6th inning, and from 0.057 to 0.070 in the 7th inning. the total improvement in the metropolitan's win probability of 0.018, once everything is rounded appropriately.

per the algorithms around which m.e.t.b.o.t. apportions schaefer votes, for a game in which a net WPA of less than 0.250, the schaefer vote is determined by a given player's WPA divided by 0.250, and multiplied by 10. given this specific example, 0.018 / 0.250 = 0.072 | 0.072 x 10 = 0.72

as a contrast, in the third game of the season, only two metropolitans failed to contribute positively. metropolitan pitcher chris capuano reduced the metropolitan win probability by 0.036, while metropolitan pinch hitter carlos beltran reduced the win probability by 0.001. all other contributions were positive.

m.e.t.b.o.t. is also able to point out another algorithm upgrade in the third game of the season. whereas last season, m.e.t.b.o.t. attempted to incorporate an adaptation for errors and web gems by attributing the loss and gain, respectively, of win probability to the fielder and not the pitcher, m.e.t.b.o.t. has determined through cursory data analysis that the web gem attribution is too extreme, and results in an extreme shift in overall wpa contribution.

to remedy this, m.e.t.b.o.t. intends to split the attribution of a given web gem between the fielder and hte pitcher. for instance, in the third game, marlins catcher john buck hit a ball to metropolitan right fielder lucas duda. lucas duda executed a catch which was of sufficient excellence to merit inclusion in the mlb.com video highlights - the criteria by which m.e.t.b.o.t. determines the worthiness of a given defensive effort. as a result of this catch, the metropolitan win probability improved by 0.013. late season, m.e.t.b.o.t. would have attributed the entire 0.013 to the defensive player at the expense of the pitcher. this season, m.e.t.b.o.t. will split the attribution such that lucas duda is credited with 0.007 wpa and r.a. dickey is debited 0.007 wpa, since m.e.t.b.o.t. is not programmed to manipulate numbers with greater than 4 significant figures. errors wil continue to be attributed solely to the fielder under the continuing assumption that the pitcher did his job in getting the ball hit to an eligible fielder.

errors and web gems continue to be the only means by which m.e.t.b.o.t. is capable of measuring fielding. m.e.t.b.o.t. longs for the day when some means of describing fielding in terms of win probability is developed in any recognized and well-received fashion. m.e.t.b.o.t. is certain that the method m.e.t.b.o.t. is programmed to use in order to determine schaefer voting is not such a method. m.e.t.b.o.t. is, as always, willing to entertain alternate methods of capturing such data, provided any new algorithms can be described in terms of spring-and-gear programming.

The Second Spitter
Apr 04 2011 10:07 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I ? m.e.t.b.o.t.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 05 2011 06:47 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I really like the level of participation we get in the early days of the season. Hope it continues for a while. (A winning team would probably help quite a bit.)

Anyway, it's almost time for the first Schaefer tallying of the new season. All three games played in Miami over the past weekend will close some time on Wednesday morning. If there's anyone with votes that they still intend to cast, please try to get them in today.

Schaefer POTG 4/1/2011, Mets @ Marlins Game 1
Schaefer POTG 4/2/11 - Mets 6, Fish 4 (10 Innings)
Schaefer POTG, 04/03/2011: Mets 9 Marlins 2

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 07 2011 07:04 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's win in Philadelphia will close on Friday morning. Still haven't voted? Please try to do so today.

Schaefer POTG 4/5/11 Mets 7 Phillies 1

Frayed Knot
Apr 07 2011 07:22 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Taylor Buchholz spelling alert: one C, two Hs

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 07 2011 07:49 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Frayed Knot wrote:
Taylor Buchholz spelling alert: one C, two Hs


(And no T before the Z.)

Thanks! So far (small sample size) the most challenging names to spell have been Buchholz and Byrdak. (His name isn't "Burdick")

Edgy DC
Apr 07 2011 07:56 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Wow, that's closer to Bordick than Byrdak.

G-Fafif
Apr 07 2011 08:18 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Frayed Knot wrote:
Taylor Buchholz spelling alert: one C, two Hs


And 9.82 ERA.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 07 2011 10:09 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

G-Fafif wrote:
Taylor Buchholz spelling alert: one C, two Hs


And 9.82 ERA.


I believe you're thinking of Beardly-Blessed Blaine Boyer.

Fman99
Apr 07 2011 10:15 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Edgy DC wrote:
Wow, that's closer to Bordick than Byrdak.


Welcome a-Byrdak!

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 08 2011 08:24 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Wednesday night's loss in Philadelphia will close some time over the weekend. Please try to get any remaining votes in today.

Schaefer POTG 4/6/11 - Phillies 10, Mets 7

metsmarathon
Apr 08 2011 10:31 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Taylor Buchholz spelling alert: one C, two Hs


(And no T before the Z.)

Thanks! So far (small sample size) the most challenging names to spell have been Buchholz and Byrdak. (His name isn't "Burdick")


burrdick sounds like it could be uncomfortable.

or perhaps very much enjoyable...

Edgy DC
Apr 10 2011 10:01 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

What I've got so far...

1 Reyes 8.72
2 Davis 7.82
3 Harris 7.73
4 Young 7.57
5 Beltran 7.31
6 Pagan 6.99
7 Wright 6.75
8 Beato 6.10
9 Carrasco 4.62
10 Dickey 4.25
11 Buchholz 3.04
12 Thole 2.58
13 Duda 2.54
14 Murphy 2.31
15 Niese 1.94
16 Byrdak 1.68
17 Rodriguez 1.67
18 Parnell 1.57
19 Boyer 1.49
20 Capuano 1.39
21 Emaus 1.36
22 Hu 0.53

T23 Hairston 0.00
T23 Nickeas 0.00
T23 Pelfrey 0.00

G-Fafif
Apr 10 2011 10:53 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Taylor Buchholz spelling alert: one C, two Hs


And 9.82 ERA.


I believe you're thinking of Beardly-Blessed Blaine Boyer.


Apologies to the guy who's still here.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 11 2011 07:12 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for last Thursday's afternoon debacle in Philadelphia will, mercifully, close on Tuesday morning. If you're masochistic enough to want to revisit that game and cast your votes, please try to do so today.

Schaefer POTG 4/7/11 - Phillies 11, Mets 0

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 12 2011 07:25 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Busy Schaefer day tomorrow as all three games played against Washington in Queens this past weekend will be closing. The two losses are a little light on votes. If you still intend to weigh in on any of the games, please try to do so today.

Schaefer POTG 04/08/2011 Washington 6, Mets 2
Schaefer POTG 4/9/11 Mets 8 Nats 4
Schaefer POTG 04/10/2011 Washington 7, Mets 3

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 13 2011 11:38 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Monday night's loss to the Rockies at Citi Field will close on Thursday afternoon.

Schaefer POTG 4/11/11 - Rockies 7, Mets 6

The Second Spitter
Apr 15 2011 04:42 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Re: Schaefer POTG 4/14/11, Game 1 - Rockies 6, Mets 5

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:

Despite not quite coming through at the end, Reyes gets a defensive bump. Similarly, Hairston's two-run misplay cancels out a significant portion of his offensive contributions.


In that case also reduce Muffy's score for effing the DP that could have ended the inning before FUSH's misplay.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 15 2011 07:53 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Wednesday's loss to Colorado will close some time over the weekend. If you have any votes that you intend to cast, please try to get them in today.

Schaefer POTG 4/13/11 - Rockies 5, Mets 4

Both games of yesterday's doubleheader will remain open for voting until Tuesday.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 18 2011 04:31 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for both games of Thursday's doubleheader sweep at the hands of the Rockies will close on Tuesday morning.

Schaefer POTG 4/14/11, Game 1 - Rockies 6, Mets 5
Schaefer POTG 04/14/2011 Game 2 Colorado 9, Mets 4

metsmarathon
Apr 18 2011 06:55 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

must. catch. up.

metsmarathon
Apr 18 2011 07:41 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

that's right. i just gave beato a perfect 6.0 for the second game of that doubleheader.

3 mets got love - for a total of 9 points.

for a reliever, i guess all i can say is, beato did his job as best can be captured by my system.

he got 3 points for each inning pitched. plus another point for each strikeout. and 1.5 points for each inherited runner. add it all up and you get 12 of what i call "marathon points"

positive marathon points become schaeffer points for the top 6 earners, all other marathon points become ignored. when i dole out 20 or more schaeffer points in a game, i scale them down to 10 schaeffer votes. however, in this game, only 18 schaeffer points were earned. therefore, i cut the points in half. 12 schaeffer points = 6 schaeffer votes in this case.

in a typical win, about 30-40 schaeffer points will be earned. which would ordinarily put beato's effort in the 2-3 schaeffer vote range. but since none of his other teammates joined him on beer run to the circle-k, the six-pack was all his.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 19 2011 06:52 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for all three games from this weekend's series in Atlanta will close on Wednesday, perhaps first thing in the morning. If you haven't voted yet, please try to do so today.

Schaefer POTG 4/16/11, Game 1 - Braves 4, Mets 2
Schaefer POTG 4/16/11, Game 2 - Braves 4, Mets 0
Schaefer POTG 4/17/11 - Mets 3, Braves 2

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 19 2011 10:57 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The Second Spitter wrote:
Re: Schaefer POTG 4/14/11, Game 1 - Rockies 6, Mets 5

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:

Despite not quite coming through at the end, Reyes gets a defensive bump. Similarly, Hairston's two-run misplay cancels out a significant portion of his offensive contributions.


In that case also reduce Muffy's score for effing the DP that could have ended the inning before FUSH's misplay.


He got a slight docking. But, frankly, his was a far-less-damaging error.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 20 2011 02:57 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I have a script that calculates the Schaefer Mets Player of the Week (weeks end on Saturday) but I often forget to look at it.

Anyway, for the two weeks completed so far, the winners are:

Week ending 2011-04-09: Ike Davis 5.61 points
Week ending 2011-04-16: José Reyes 7.14 points

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 21 2011 07:15 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's loss to the Astros at Citi Field will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 4/19/11 - Astros 6, Mets 1

m.e.t.b.o.t.
Apr 21 2011 08:01 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

in the game on 20 april 2011, m.e.t.b.o.t. has attempted to parse the individual mistakes evidenced on the basepaths as committed by the metropolitans.

the trigger for this investigation was that fangraphs.com combined the metropolitan centerfielder angel pagan's unsuccessful attempt to score a run with metropolitan pinch hitter justin turner's unsuccessful attempt to strike a sphere.

the totap WPA for this event was -32.7%. m.e.t.b.o.t. searched the available breadth of human knowledge and, using the win probability inquirer located at thehardballtimes.com, m.e.t.b.o.t. was able to discern that the act of failing to contact a sphere given a three valid opportunites with one out and human baserunners located at the first and third base results in a WPA of -18.5%. the incident with two outs which caused the human runners located at the first and third base to be removed, and the transition from one defensive team to the other, had a WPA of -14.2%.

m.e.t.b.o.t. applied this knowledge to the schaeffer voting as appropriate, though it did not ultimately affect the schaeffer votes given.

m.e.t.b.o.t. then applied this same methodology to the event in the bottom of the ninth inning where with no outs and a baserunner on first base, where the metropolitans had a 30.7% chance of winning the competition. as a result of the unsucessful attempt to commit an out, the metropolitans had a 4% chance of winning the competition with the bases empty and two outs. the total WPA for this play, therefore, was -26.8%. using the same win probability inquirer, m.e.t.b.o.t. derived a total WPA of -28.8%, of which a WPA of 12.5% is derived from commiting a single out while the baserunner remains located at first base. in failing to retain his position at first base, the metropolitan shortstop jose reyes contributed a WPA of -16.2%. m.e.t.b.o.t. prorated these to fit the -26.8% WPA as found on fangraphs, and assumes that the difference in total WPA is due to some data latency issue. it is conceivable that one source is using more current data than the other. hence the difference. m.e.t.b.o.t. believes this to be fairly immaterial to the outcome of the schaeffer voting for this specific game, and to the schaeffer voting of m.e.t.b.o.t. in general provided the primary source remains stable.

m.e.t.b.o.t. furthermore intends to point out that in the course of the schaeffer voting for the 20 april 2011 game, m.e.t.b.o.t. derived an initial voting total of 6.02 for metropolitan secondbaseman daniel murphy. a portion of this was derived from his contribution to what the humans term a precious stone of netting in which metropolitan shortstop jose reyes initiated a double play and daniel murphy passed the baton. this play results in a WPA of +4.7%, of which half remained attributed to the pitcher of record, and the remaining half was shared between the two primary participants - the metropolitan shortstop jose reyes and the metropolitan secondbaseman daniel murphy. metropolitan firstbaseman ike davis was not awarded any portion of the precious stone of netting as his name was unmentioned in the source material, the video highlights on mlb.com.

the 6.02 schaeffer voted for metropolitan secondbaseman daniel murphy were prorated to 6.00. in doing so, the schaeffer votes for metropolitan shortstop jose reyes and metropolitan rightfielder carlos beltran were increased from 1.12 to 1.13 and 1.54 to 1.55, respectively.

metsmarathon
Apr 21 2011 09:24 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The Second Spitter wrote:
Niese 3
Beltran 1.25
Beato 0.75
Davis 0.75

CPF: Where QS are worth shit.


with 7 hits, 5 walks and only 3 strikeouts over the course of 6 innings, and drawing the loss decision, i've got niese's outing as worth a maximum of 0.5 schaeffer votes. getting tagged for the loss hammered him down -2.5 votes (it's not always fair, and may not be in this case, but it also allows me to hammer losing relievers). his fielding drops him down -0.15 votes as he shares the blame with his catcher for a stolen base, but receives some credit for starting a double play. and finally, his batting, rather his going 0-2 with a strikeout, drags him down a further -0.75 votes for a net negative on the day.

for the total tally we've got:

6 IP * 1.5 = 9
7 H * -0.5 = -3.5
2 R * -0.75 = -1.5
2 ER * -0.75 = -1.5 (this means that unearned runs are only half as deleterious to a pitcher's schaeffer vote)
5 BB * -0.5 = -2.5
3 K * 0.5 = 1.5
1 L * -2.5 = -2.5
1 GS = -1.5
1 QS = 3 (these two are a fairly clunky way of administering a demerit for failing to make a QS)
2 AB * -0.25 = -0.5
1 SO * -0.25 = -0.25
1 DPstart * 0.125 = 0.125
1 SBA * -0.25 = -0.25

for a total of -0.375 for the game. no beer for you, niesey!

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 26 2011 06:50 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Big Schaefer day tomorrow, as five games are due to close. Sunday's game is still a little light on votes. If anyone has any more votes they'd like to cast for any of the five games, please try to get them in some time today.

Schaefer POTG 4/20/11 - Astros 4, Mets 3
Schaefer POTG 4/21/11 - Mets 9, Astros 1
Schaefer POTG 4/22/11 - Mets 4, Diamondbacks 1
Schaefer POTG 4/23/11 - Mets 6, Diamondbacks 4
Schaefer POTG 4/24/11 - Mets 8, Diamondbacks 4

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 27 2011 11:47 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week, for the week ending April 23, was Ike Davis, with 6.71 points.

Edgy DC
Apr 27 2011 11:52 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Cool to get the PotW in a week where we won so.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 28 2011 07:51 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

It looks like this game may already be fully voted, but it will stay open for about another 24 hours nevertheless. Voting for Tuesday night's win in Washington will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 4/26/11 - Mets 6, Nationals 4

Races for two of the three April awards are highly competitive, and we even have the possibility of a relief pitcher winning Pitcher of the Month for the first time ever. The April Schaefer awards are scheduled to be announced on Wednesday, May 4.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 29 2011 07:36 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Wednesday night's come-from-behind win over the Nationals in DC is still a little light. Voting will close sometime over the weekend. Please try to get any remaining votes submitted today.

Schaefer POTG 4/27/11 - Mets 6, Nationals 3

Benjamin Grimm
May 02 2011 06:35 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Thursday night's loss in Washington will close on Tuesday morning. If you haven't voted yet, please do so today.

Schaefer POTG 4/28/11 - Nationals 4, Mets 3

On Wednesday, all three games played in Philadelphia over the weekend will close, and the April winners will be announced. The three winners are coming into focus, and it looks like I'll be debuting three all-new Topps Retrocards.

Benjamin Grimm
May 03 2011 07:40 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for all three games played in Philadelphia this past weekend will close on Wednesday morning. This will also close out the month of April, and we'll have our first Players of the Month awards for 2011.

If you still need to vote for any of the Phillies games, please try to get your submissions in today.

Schaefer POTG 4/29/11 Phillies 10, Mets 3
Schaefer POTG 4/21/11 04/30/2011 Philadelphia 2, Mets 1
Schaefer POTG 5/1/11 - Mets 2, Phillies 1 (14 Innings)

Edgy DC
May 03 2011 10:47 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Prediction: Reyes, Young, Beato.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 03 2011 10:53 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

HAS to be Ike.

TransMonk
May 03 2011 10:55 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Yeah, I was thinking Ike as well.

metsmarathon
May 03 2011 01:47 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

so i generate three metrics in the course of my schaefer voting:

1. marathon points, which can be positive or negative and are deterministic.
2. schaefer points, which are the six highest marathon points for a given game, and are deterministic.
3. schaefer votes, which are those same schaefer points, scaled to 10 ok, really they're scaled to 9.5 with a 0.5 vote bonus to the highest vote-getter, unless the schaefer points don't total more than 19, in which case i just halve the schaefer points and nobody gets a bonus. its complicated...

ike davis has about a 10% lead in each of these categories, with reyes, wright, and beltran taking second in each metric respectively.

without winding up the 'bot, i can tell you that ike also has a 20% lead in both his voting and the baseline WPA metric.

for summary:

mpspsvbotwpa
player 1davis82.8davis96.5davis22.6davis30.3davis1281
player 2reyes66.5wright84.8beltran19.8wright23.8murphy744
pitcher 1rodriguez41.7rodriguez48.7beato13beato6.9isringhausen413
pitcher 2beato39.8beato39.3rodriguez10.5rodriguez6.5young278
reliever 1rodriguez41.7rodriguez48.7beato13beato6.9isringhausen413
reliever 2beato39.8beato39.3rodriguez10.5rodriguez6.5rodriguez235

G-Fafif
May 03 2011 01:53 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Ronny Paulino: Player of the One Day May.

Ashie62
May 03 2011 01:53 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

At least you vote!

Edgy DC
May 03 2011 07:50 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Checking my sheet, I've got Davis/Beato/Beato. No starter really came close to him. Niese is 14th, Young, 15th, Dickey 18th, Capuano 26th, and Pelfrey 30th.

Benjamin Grimm
May 05 2011 04:04 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's loss to the Giants at Citi Field will close on Friday morning. Please try to get any remaining votes submitted today.

Schaefer POTG - Giants 7, Mets 6 (10 Innings)

Benjamin Grimm
May 05 2011 07:15 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week, for the week ending April 30, was Ike Davis, with 6.74 points.




Updated award winner standings, with most recent winners in bold:

PLAYER OF THE MONTH
David Wright 10
Johan Santana 6
Carlos Beltran 5
José Reyes 3
Cliff Floyd 2
Tom Glavine 2
Carlos Delgado 2
IKE DAVIS 2
Mike Cameron 1
John Maine 1
Angel Pagan 1
Jeff Francoeur 1
R. A. Dickey 1

PITCHER OF THE MONTH
Johan Santana 9
Pedro Martinez 6
John Maine 5
Tom Glavine 3
Mike Pelfrey 3
Orlando Hernandez 2
R. A. Dickey 2
Alay Soler 1
Steve Trachsel 1
Oliver Perez 1
Livan Hernandez 1
Tim Redding 1
Dillon Gee 1
JONATHON NIESE 1

RELIEVER OF THE MONTH
Brian Stokes 5
Francisco Rodriguez 2
Raul Valdes 2
Billy Wagner 1
Aaron Heilman 1
Duaner Sanchez 1
Scott Schoeneweis 1
Pedro Feliciano 1
Sean Green 1
Fernando Nieve 1
Hisanori Takahashi 1
Elmer Dessens 1
PEDRO BEATO 1

Benjamin Grimm
May 06 2011 07:41 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Wednesday night's loss to the Giants at Citi Field will close some time over the weekend. Please try to get any remaining votes submitted today.

Schaefer POTG 5/4/11 - Giants 2, Mets 0

themetfairy
May 07 2011 09:18 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Dillon Gee should get some extra sips of Schaefer for the May 7th game, considering that he was an emergency fill-in starter.

Benjamin Grimm
May 09 2011 06:41 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Thursday afternoon's win over the Giants in Queens will close on Tuesday morning. Looks like a few of the regular voters may not have voted yet. If so, please try to get your numbers in today.

Schaefer POTG 5/5/11 - Mets 5, Giants 2

Benjamin Grimm
May 10 2011 11:18 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for all games from this past weekend's series against the Dodgers will close early Wednesday afternoon.

Schaefer POTG 5/6/11 - Mets 6, Dodgers 3
Schaefer POTG 5/7/11 - Mets 4, Dodgers 2
Schaefer POTG 5/8/11 - Dodgers 4, Mets 2

Benjamin Grimm
May 11 2011 06:44 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Monday night's game in Denver will close on Thursday morning.

Also, a reminder that the entire Dodger series will close this afternoon. (See links in previous post.) Sunday's game is still light on votes. If you plan to submit anything, please do so this morning. I'll wait until 1 p.m. (Eastern time) but after that, the games may close at any time.

Schaefer POTG 5/9/11 - Rockies 2, Mets 1

Benjamin Grimm
May 11 2011 11:47 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Bringing this forward to the current page:

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Voting for Monday night's game in Denver will close on Thursday morning.

Also, a reminder that the entire Dodger series will close this afternoon. (See links in previous post.) Sunday's game is still light on votes. If you plan to submit anything, please do so this morning. I'll wait until 1 p.m. (Eastern time) but after that, the games may close at any time.

Schaefer POTG 5/9/11 - Rockies 2, Mets 1





The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending May 7, 2011 is Carlos
Beltran with 8.06 points.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 11 2011 12:01 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

If Niese tears an elbow ligament next start, I'm never voting for Schaefer again.

Benjamin Grimm
May 12 2011 08:30 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's loss to the Rockies at Coors Field will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 5/10/11 - Mets 4, Rockies 3

metsmarathon
May 12 2011 08:57 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

in the game on the 9th, how did chris capuano's batting (or decided lack thereof) factor into the voting?

themetfairy
May 12 2011 10:56 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

metsmarathon wrote:
in the game on the 9th, how did chris capuano's batting (or decided lack thereof) factor into the voting?


It didn't for me - I gave him points purely on his pitching.

themetfairy
May 12 2011 06:23 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

It's rare for me to give a player 6 points for a game. But tonight I'm giving Carlos Beltran 6 points.

He was The Man in this game!

Gwreck
May 12 2011 06:26 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

No doubt about it, especially given that so little of the pitching was Schaefer-worthy.

metsmarathon
May 13 2011 09:09 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

hmm. i'm kindof surprised i gave beltran so low a score. that i gave points out to 7 players instead of the regular 6 was a big hit to him, but the tie for 6th forced my hand!

i will say that, on an absolute scale, beltran's was the highest rated game i have on record this season. unfortunately for him, i vote on a relative scale.

Benjamin Grimm
May 16 2011 07:12 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Thursday afternoon's win in Colorado (Carlos Beltran's Big Day) will close on Tuesday morning. This game appears to be fully voted, but I'm posting this notice anyway, as required by statute.

It looks like some of the games that were played in Houston this weekend are still lacking some votes. I'll post official notice tomorrow; the games will close on Wednesday. If you have votes to cast for any of those games, please try to get them in today or tomorrow.

Schaefer POTG 5/12/11 - Mets 9, Rockies 5

Edgy DC
May 16 2011 07:45 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I was thinking that my 5.15 would ruin perfection for Beltran, then m.e.t.b.o.t. comes through with a 3.5. That little robot has a cold metal heart.

Gwreck
May 16 2011 08:19 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I guess metbot is solidly on the "Blame Beltran" bandwagon. 1.81 points for Niese seems excessive, particularly if his cushion to give up those five runs was provided by almost exclusively by Beltran.

metsmarathon
May 17 2011 07:18 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

i don't get the "pelfrey 5, nothing to nobody else" for monday night's loss to the fish.

i understand an unwillingness to hand out barley pop to the batters, given that we mustered only one run through 11 innings. but what of the pitchers, save igarashi and byrdak?

was izzy's 2/3 of an inning stranding an inherited runner not good? and o'connor's two-strikeout tenth? and, of course, what of jon niese hitting a triple there? was that all useless because jose reyes couldn't drive him in?

i ask you, if jose manages to poke a single there, driving in niese, would your schaefer tally then be pelfrey 5 reyes 5? or was the performance of our pitchers only worthy of a beer if we win the game? the outcome of the game neither defines nor negates the efforts of the players.

Benjamin Grimm
May 17 2011 07:34 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for all three games played against the Colt .45's this past weekend in Houston will close on Wednesday morning. If you still haven't voted for any of these games please do so today.

Schaefer POTG 5/13/11 - Mets 6, Astros 4
Schaefer POTG, 05/14/2011: Astros 7 Mets 3
Schaefer POTG 5/15/11 - Mets 7, Astros 4

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 17 2011 07:35 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

metsmarathon wrote:
i don't get the "pelfrey 5, nothing to nobody else" for monday night's loss to the fish.

i understand an unwillingness to hand out barley pop to the batters, given that we mustered only one run through 11 innings. but what of the pitchers, save igarashi and byrdak?

was izzy's 2/3 of an inning stranding an inherited runner not good? and o'connor's two-strikeout tenth? and, of course, what of jon niese hitting a triple there? was that all useless because jose reyes couldn't drive him in?

i ask you, if jose manages to poke a single there, driving in niese, would your schaefer tally then be pelfrey 5 reyes 5? or was the performance of our pitchers only worthy of a beer if we win the game? the outcome of the game neither defines nor negates the efforts of the players.


U said it

TransMonk
May 17 2011 07:50 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I hate this thread. Almost as much as I hate doling out Schaefer points in a loss.

metsmarathon wrote:
the outcome of the game neither defines nor negates the efforts of the players.

I disagree with this statement.

Pelf did all the heavy lifting and got shafted by his offense.

m.e.t.b.o.t.
May 17 2011 08:03 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

while m.e.t.b.o.t. does not have a heart, m.e.t.b.o.t. does have a clockwork spring which is the primary source of m.e.t.b.o.t.'s locomotion. it is the mecahnical analog to a biological heart. since m.e.t.b.o.t. typically operates at room temperature, has little thermal mass, and generates almost no heat during operation due to an effective graphite lubricant which minimizes friction, it is more accurate to say that m.e.t.b.o.t. is somewhat cool throughout. however, were m.e.t.b.o.t. to be placed into a cold environment, the clockwork spring would quickly lose its thermal energy and turn similarly cold. m.e.t.b.o.t. would likely remain operational, but would run the risk of condensation freezing up the delicate machanisms stuffed somewhat haphazardly within the outer tinny shell.

regarding the performance of the metropolitan pitcher jon niese, m.e.t.b.o.t. utilized a data-driven approach to arrive at the final allocation of 1.81 schaeffer points.

it is worth noting that in the game, metropolitan pitcher jon niese accrued +153 WPA, +32 of which came as a batter. as a pitcher, he accrued +121 WPA.

entering the bottom of the first inning, the metropolitans already had a 62.9% probability of winning the game. the metropolitans exited the bottom of the third with a 59.4% probability of winning hte game. in the bottom of the first inning, metropolitan pitcher jon niese decreased the probaility of the metroploitans winning the game by 3.5%. viewing the data in tabular form shows the following:

[table:1d50dxsq][tr:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]inning[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]start[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]end[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]delta[/td:1d50dxsq][/tr:1d50dxsq][tr:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]bottom 1[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]62.9%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]59.4%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]-3.5%[/td:1d50dxsq][/tr:1d50dxsq][tr:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]bottom 2[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]54.4%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]60.2%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]5.8%[/td:1d50dxsq][/tr:1d50dxsq][tr:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]bottom 3[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]54.8%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]61.2%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]6.4%[/td:1d50dxsq][/tr:1d50dxsq][tr:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]bottom 4[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]83.2%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]81.6%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]-1.6%[/td:1d50dxsq][/tr:1d50dxsq][tr:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]bottom 5[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]78.2%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]84.4%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]6.2%[/td:1d50dxsq][/tr:1d50dxsq][tr:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]bottom 6[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]81.2%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]87.7%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]6.5%[/td:1d50dxsq][/tr:1d50dxsq][tr:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]bottom 7[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]95.0%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]87.4%[/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]-7.6%[/td:1d50dxsq][/tr:1d50dxsq][tr:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq][/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq][/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq][/td:1d50dxsq][td:1d50dxsq]12.2%[/td:1d50dxsq][/tr:1d50dxsq][/table:1d50dxsq]

despite decreaseing hte probability of winning the game for the metropolitans in three innings, metropolitan pitcehr jon niese actually increased the probability of the metropolitans winning the game in four innings, and overall had a positive effect on the probability of winning the game. while it is true that metropolitan right fielder carlos beltran created much of the opportunity for this, it still remains that the pitcher maintained the lead. and from the perspective of a short metallic robot with a room-temperature heart, this is all that matters, and all that the data instructs.

actually, on reviewing the data, m.e.t.b.o.t. should point out that metropolitan pitcher jon niese was decremented 6 WPA due to the defensive efforts of metropolitan shortstop jose reyes. in the fourth inning, jose reyes was awarded a web gem for the play in which he threw out colorado rockies catcher jose morales at first base. this play resulted in an increase in teh probability of the metropolitans winning the game by 1.2%, or 12 WPA. while last year, m.e.t.bo.t. would have awarded the entirity of those 12 WPA to the fielder, this year, m.e.t.b.o.t. has an updated algorithm which awards only half of the WPA to the fielder to resolve an apparent imbalance. therefore, metropolitan shortstop was awarded an increase of 6 WPA whereas metroploitan pitcher jon niese was debited 6 WPA. this decreased the schaefer points awarded to metropolitan pitcher jon niese by 0.07, from 1.88 to 1.81, and similarly increased the points awarded to metropolitan shortstop jose reyes from 0.39 to 0.47

seawolf17
May 17 2011 08:07 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

And apparently none of y'all saw the Willie Harris play to save a run in the fourth, or Beltran going flat-out and then hopping up to double up Infante and save a run in the fifth. Either (or both) of those would have made everything else moot.

metsmarathon
May 17 2011 08:16 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

TransMonk wrote:
I hate this thread. Almost as much as I hate doling out Schaefer points in a loss.

metsmarathon wrote:
the outcome of the game neither defines nor negates the efforts of the players.

I disagree with this statement.

Pelf did all the heavy lifting and got shafted by his offense.


i'm not arguing against the 5 for pelfrey at all - if i were i'd mention something about only getting one strikeout. i'm arguing against the big fat zero for everybody else, especially o'connor and niese, who really could not have done more to help the mets win given their opportunities.

i just wonder, if we won the game, would o'connor get some beer? and how does a pitcher hitting a pinch-hit triple with two outs in the bottom of the eleventh not get a sip?

i don't intend to be combative. i'm merely hoping to raise a philosophical point. i think we get stingy in losses is all.

and if the efforts of oconnor and niese are negated by the loss, then why aren't pelfrey's.

metsmarathon
May 17 2011 08:26 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

seawolf17 wrote:
And apparently none of y'all saw the Willie Harris play to save a run in the fourth, or Beltran going flat-out and then hopping up to double up Infante and save a run in the fifth. Either (or both) of those would have made everything else moot.


well, willie harris went 0-4 with two k's and 2 lob's. that pretty much negated and really outweighed his defensive contribution for me. granted it was a fairly high leverage situation, but i don't factor that in. perhaps that could be a future upgrade to the 'bot...

TransMonk
May 17 2011 10:25 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

metsmarathon wrote:
i think we get stingy in losses is all.

I'm of the opinion that we should be stingy in losses. Rewarding players the same regardless of the desired team outcome seems insane to me. I give 10 points total for wins and 5 points total for losses (and prior to this season, I didn't vote in losses at all). Some people have formulas that they plug into various spreadsheets, databases or other abaci. I don't have the patience for all that. I only use round numbers and I score based on my gut.

One of the things I love about Schaefer is that we all have unique and individual scoring methods. One of the things I hate about Schaefer is when scores are critiqued. If any scoring method is inferior, then we should all just decide on a dedicated formula and the math can just tell me who the PotG is.

Izzy got 2 big outs. O'Conner got 3. Pelfrey got 21, has been pitching his ass off lately and outlasted one of the best pitchers in the league last night. If O'Conner misses the Reliever of the Month award by the pro-rated .34 points I "should" have given him (for a clean inning, which is exactly what should be expected of him in that situation), then I'll personally send him a six-pack.

Ashie62
May 17 2011 11:27 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The Pelfrey "only" 5's are from the Russan judge.

But really, voting can take a weird turn after a tough loss.

Sometimes we are just tired when we vote late at night and are not at our best.

I usually vote for defense..Like Beltran last night, or a well called game by a catcher.

But I forgot, yes forgot, about Willie Harris's play cause I can't standing the fucking guy.

The 2011 Voting for bullpen outings seems more competitive and thorough than in other years.

Gwreck
May 17 2011 12:08 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Couple of thoughts:

1. I did consider Willie Harris' play, but was of the opinion that his going 0-4 negated the positive effects of his play. I did however give bump up to Beltran for his play. This might be unfair of me.

2. I agree that we should be stingy in losses. If too many points are handed out in losses, than it negates the effect of good wins when multiple people contribute.

--

I personally enjoy this thread. I mean no disrespect to anyone else but it baffles me that people dislike their Schaefer voting methodology questioned and/or discussed. Isn't that the point of a message board? Nobody's taking away your right to vote however you see fit but I really don't see the harm in civil discussion about it.

TransMonk
May 17 2011 12:12 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Gwreck wrote:
I personally enjoy this thread. I mean no disrespect to anyone else but it baffles me that people dislike their Schaefer voting methodology questioned and/or discussed. Isn't that the point of a message board? Nobody's taking away your right to vote however you see fit but I really don't see the harm in civil discussion about it.

You're right. I was a little testy this morning. Last night's cock-punch of a game had a lot to do with it.

I know marathon meant no harm in asking about the logic. I just got up on the wrong side of the bed.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 17 2011 12:25 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

People hold their Schaffer very sacred, and they don't even know it. It must be the combination of the finest hops and barley.

G-Fafif
May 17 2011 12:27 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The most rewarding flavor in this man's world...

metsmarathon
May 17 2011 12:34 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

oh good. then i'm glad i just accidentally closed the window wherein i was writing up a scathing reply using all the bad words i've learned from fman over the years. whew! that would have been awkward.

i still think that o'connor went above and beyond in getting 2 strikeouts facing the opposition's 3-4-5 in the 10th inning, and that he and niese should get something out of it. while i disagree that a loss should be a de-facto 5, given that constraint, and the whole number voting, i can mostly go along with the pelfrey 5.

the fact that 2 consecutive voters gave identical pelfrey 5's to the exclusion of anybody else raised an eyebrow. i was curious.

Benjamin Grimm
May 18 2011 08:25 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending May 14, 2011 is Carlos
Beltran with 5.96 points.

Benjamin Grimm
May 18 2011 08:28 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Monday night's loss to the Marlins will close on Thursday morning.

Schaefer POTG 5/16/11 - Marlins 2, Mets 1 (11 Innings)

Benjamin Grimm
May 20 2011 07:13 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Wednesday's rainy win over the Nationals in Queens will close sometime over the weekend. Please try to get your votes in today.

Schaefer POTG 5/18/11 - Mets 3, Nationals 0 (in the rain)

Benjamin Grimm
May 23 2011 07:13 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Thursday afternoon's win over the Nationals will close on Tuesday morning.

Schaefer POTG 05/19/2011 Mets 1, Washington 0

Benjamin Grimm
May 24 2011 07:02 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for all three games played in the Bronx this past weekend will close on Wednesday morning. If you have votes that you'd like to cast, please get them in today.

Schaefer POTG 5/20/11 - Mets 2, MFY's 1
Schaefer POTG 5/21/11 - MFY's 7, Mets 3
Schaefer POTG, 05/22 2011: MFYs 9 Mets 3

Benjamin Grimm
May 26 2011 04:17 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday's ugly loss at Wrigley will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 5/24/11 - Cubs 11, Mets 1

m.e.t.b.o.t.
May 26 2011 07:52 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

m.e.t.b.o.t. is struggling with yesterday's game agains the chicago cubs. as m.e.t.b.o.t. was compiling the win probability data for the game, and determining the appropriate distribution of scaheffer votes, m.e.t.b.o.t. noticed that a considerable amount of win percentage added was attributed to metropolitan shortstop jose reyes. moreso than was to be expected given his performance in the game, which was two singles in five at bats, with a run scored and two runners left on base.

m.e.t.b.o.t. investigated the play index, and discovered that for metropolitan shortstop jose reyes's final at bat, the final at bat of the game, in which he hit a single with two outs to advance metropolitan pitcher dillon gee to second base, he was attributed +0.125 WPA, a significant amount. this is due to the fact that this play ended the game. at the time, the metropolitans had an 87.5% chance of winning the game. since after the at bat, the mets were determined to be the winners, the player at bat was awarded the difference.

m.e.t.b.o.t. is stuck with the challenge of determining what to do with those points. based on the WPA tables available on the internet, m.e.t.b.o.t. has determined that the play in question resulted in a +0.009 WPA. m.e.t.b.o.t. considers it appropriate for metropolitan shortstop jose reyes to be awarded his schaefer votes based on this attribution, which leaves +0.116 WPA unattributed.

this is a change from the established algorithms which m.e.t.b.o.t. uses to determine schaeffer points, but should be in line with the existing practice of rewarding defensive players for their noteworthy plays at hte expense of the corresponding pitcher, and excusing pitchers of the responsibility for errors and passed balls commited by defensive players.

the following is the impact of this decision. the column labeled base represents the schaefer votes using the unmodified baseline WPA values, the column labeled mod represents the modified schaefer votes which leaves the remianing +.116 WPA unattributed, and the column labeled delta represents the change in schaefer votes resulting from this decision.

[table:le0j2jf1][tr:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]player[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]base[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]mod[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]delta[/td:le0j2jf1][/tr:le0j2jf1][tr:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]Reyes[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]1.84[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]-[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1](1.84)[/td:le0j2jf1][/tr:le0j2jf1][tr:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]Thole[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.56[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.68[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.12[/td:le0j2jf1][/tr:le0j2jf1][tr:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]Beltran[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]3.69[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]4.52[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.83[/td:le0j2jf1][/tr:le0j2jf1][tr:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]Murphy[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]2.46[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]3.01[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.55[/td:le0j2jf1][/tr:le0j2jf1][tr:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]Turner[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.66[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.80[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.15[/td:le0j2jf1][/tr:le0j2jf1][tr:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]Pridie[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.13[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.16[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.03[/td:le0j2jf1][/tr:le0j2jf1][tr:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]Tejada[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.67[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.82[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]0.15[/td:le0j2jf1][/tr:le0j2jf1][tr:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]Total[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]10.00[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]10.00[/td:le0j2jf1][td:le0j2jf1]-[/td:le0j2jf1][/tr:le0j2jf1][/table:le0j2jf1]

Benjamin Grimm
May 27 2011 06:57 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Wednesday night's win over the Cubs in Chicago will close some time over the Memorial Day weekend. Please try to get any remaining votes in today.

Schaefer POTG 5/25/11 - Mets 7, Cubs 4 (Rain Shortened Win)

Benjamin Grimm
May 29 2011 04:59 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I should have posted this on Wednesday:


The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending May 21, 2011 is Justin
Turner with 11.77 points.

Ashie62
May 29 2011 06:09 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Why does Pelfrey get 5's against the Phils? Is that the bar for a quality start without a win?

themetfairy
May 29 2011 06:54 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Two runs in 7 2/3 innings in a game without a lot of Schaefer to distribute will earn a starter a lot of suds.

Edgy DC
May 29 2011 11:24 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I should have posted this on Wednesday:


The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending May 21, 2011 is Justin
Turner with 11.77 points.

Musta been a runaway.

Gwreck
May 29 2011 10:16 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Ashie62 wrote:
Why does Pelfrey get 5's against the Phils? Is that the bar for a quality start without a win?


I think it depends a lot on how many points a voter is willing to give away in a relatively close loss. I think 5 is a bit too much but it's close.

I figure he earns a minimum of 3 for going into the 8th and givng up only 1 run. Even if he's docked points for the second run (tough call; yes, it was his runner, but it was on first with 2 outs when he left) 2 runs in 8 innings is pretty good. Some bonus consideration is also potentially warranted for degree of difficulty against a tough opponent. Low scoring also merits some additional points as it makes Pelfrey's pitching that muh more crucial to the (potential) outcome of the game.

Benjamin Grimm
May 31 2011 04:11 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Thursday's loss at Wrigley will close on Wednesday morning.

Schaefer POTG 5/26/11 - Cubs 9, Mets 3

m.e.t.b.o.t.
May 31 2011 08:22 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Ashie62 wrote:
Why does Pelfrey get 5's against the Phils? Is that the bar for a quality start without a win?


m.e.t.b.o.t. has determined that in the 28 may game agains thet philadelphia phillies, metropolitan pitcher mike pelfrey has earned 6.54 schaefer votes through the combined influence of his pitching, his hitting, and the defense performing in his support. since this exceeds the 6 point individual player cap, m.e.t.b.o.t. has decremented his total to match this cap, and redistributed the remaining points as approriate such that metropolitan shortstop jose reyes is awarded 3.01 schaefer votes instead of his prior 2.61, and metropolitan left fielder jason bay is awarded 0.99 schaefer votes instead of his prior 0.85.

per fangraphs, metropolitan pitcher mike pelfrey contributed 0.380 WPA via his pitching, and cost 0.047 WPA via hit hitting. using a prior revision of the schaefer scoring algorithm which m.e.t.b.o.t. uses to find meaning in the actions of 18 men on a quarter-circle parcel of land, this performance would have merited an impressive 7.25 schaefer votes. however some of the efforts of the metropolitan defense contributed to this performance, and er the current algorithm, these contributions to WPA are shared with the defensive players in question.

sepcifically, mlb.com has identified two defensive plays as candidate web gems wherein the WPA is shared between the defensive player and the pitcher. the first is the double play turned by metropolitan shortstop jose reyes in the first inning. this play contributed +0.048 WPA, therefore metropolitan shortstop jose reyes is awarded 0.024 WPA while metropolitan pitcher mike pelfrey is debited the same amount. similarly, the sliding bushel snare performed by metropolitan centerfielder angel pagan in the eight inning, which contributed +0.051 WPA, results in +0.0255 WPA being awarded to metropolitan centerfielder angel pagan at the expense of metropolitan pitcher mike pelfrey.

this reduces the total WPA awarded to metropolitan pitcher mike pelfrey to 0.284, which results in the unadjusted 6.54 schaefer votes.

while metropolitan centerfielder angel pagan had been awarded +0.0255 WPA for his defenisice efforts, he contributed a -0.050 WPA with his bat, and therefore retains a net negative contribution to the outcome of the game, and receives no schaefer votes.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 01 2011 05:00 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Four games will close on Thursday morning: all three games from the weekend series against the Phillies, plus Monday night's game against the Pirates. Please try to get any remaining votes submitted today.

Schaefer POTG 5/27/11 - Phillies 6, Mets 4
Schaefer POTG 5/28/11 - Phillies 5, Mets 2
Schaefer PotG, 5/29/2011, Mets 9, Phillies 5
Schaefer POTG 5/30/11 - Mets 7, Pirates 3

On Friday, last night's game will close and May's Schaefer Players of the Month will be announced. Look for three all-new retro baseball cards along with the announcement.

metsmarathon
Jun 01 2011 07:24 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

i've got reyes, pelfrey, and rodriguez as the schaefer player, pitcher, and reliever, respectively, with a fine, fine showing by turner.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 02 2011 07:00 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's loss to the Pirates will close on Friday morning. This will also close out the month of May, so look for the Players of the Month announcement some time tomorrow.

Schaefer POTG 5/31/11 - Pirates 5, Mets 1

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 02 2011 07:08 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending May 28, 2011 is Jose
Reyes with 7.00 points.

Edgy DC
Jun 02 2011 07:43 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Sweet.

Trying to get my final votes in tonight for May games.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 03 2011 07:43 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Updated award winner standings, with most recent winners in bold:

PLAYER OF THE MONTH
David Wright 10
Johan Santana 6
Carlos Beltran 5
JOSE REYES 4
Cliff Floyd 2
Tom Glavine 2
Carlos Delgado 2
Ike Davis 2
Mike Cameron 1
John Maine 1
Angel Pagan 1
Jeff Francoeur 1
R. A. Dickey 1

PITCHER OF THE MONTH
Johan Santana 9
Pedro Martinez 6
John Maine 5
MIKE PELFREY 4
Tom Glavine 3
Orlando Hernandez 2
R. A. Dickey 2
Alay Soler 1
Steve Trachsel 1
Oliver Perez 1
Livan Hernandez 1
Tim Redding 1
Dillon Gee 1
Jonathon Niese 1

RELIEVER OF THE MONTH
Brian Stokes 5
FRANCISCO RODRIGUEZ 3
Raul Valdes 2
Billy Wagner 1
Aaron Heilman 1
Duaner Sanchez 1
Scott Schoeneweis 1
Pedro Feliciano 1
Sean Green 1
Fernando Nieve 1
Hisanori Takahashi 1
Elmer Dessens 1
Pedro Beato 1

Edgy DC
Jun 03 2011 07:51 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I'm really pulling for Alay Soler to make a move in the standings.

G-Fafif
Jun 03 2011 12:00 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Edgy DC wrote:
I'm really pulling for Alay Soler to make a move in the standings.


Alay! Alay Alay Alay ALAY! Alay ... Alay!

Can't believe the Dodgers never picked him up.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 06 2011 04:30 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The remaining two games from the series against the Pirates will close on Tuesday morning. Haven't voted yet? Please do so today.

Schaefer POTG, 06/01/2011: Pirates 9 Mets 3
Schaefer POTG 6/2/11 - Mets 9, Pirates 8

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 07 2011 06:49 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for all three games played against the Braves at Citi Field this past weekend will close on Wednesday morning. Please try to get any outstanding votes in today. (Also any mediocre votes, if you have them.)

Schaefer POTG 6/3/11 - Braves 6, Mets 3
Schaefer POTG 6/4/11 - Mets 5, Braves Nada!
Schaefer POTG 6/5/11 - Mets 6, Braves 4

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 08 2011 07:20 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011


The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending June 4, 2011 is Ruben
Tejada with 7.10 points.

Edgy DC
Jun 08 2011 07:33 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

No way!

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 09 2011 04:15 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's win in Milwaukee will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 6/7/11 - Mets 2, Brewers 1

Ashie62
Jun 09 2011 04:38 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

And the Met Fairy gives Jason Bay a 0.25 yesterday for getting plunked.

themetfairy
Jun 09 2011 05:57 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

It was more for scoring the run.

The getting plunked was added entertainment value.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 10 2011 03:52 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Wednesday night's jarring loss to the Brewers will close some time over the weekend. Please try to get any lingering votes submitted today.

Schaefer POTG 6/8/11 - Brewers 7, Mets 6

In other news, I'd like to give a shout-out to all the Schaefer voters. This has been a great year for Schaefer so far. We're getting good participation, in most cases player names are spelling properly, and it's become a lot more uncommon for me to need to prorate any votes (when the point total exceeds ten). Great job everyone!

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 13 2011 04:56 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Thursday's win over the Brewers is still a little light on votes, but will close as scheduled on Tuesday morning. Those who haven't voted yet, please try to do so today.

Schaefer POTG 6/9/11 - Mets 4, Brewers 1

m.e.t.b.o.t.
Jun 13 2011 07:00 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

in the 10 june 2011 game against the pittsburgh pirates, no metropolitan players had a negative contribution to the probability of winning the baseball game. metropolitan right fielder jason pridie had no contribution to the outcome of the game. this is the first time in 2011 wherein no metropolitan player had a negative contribution to the probability of winning the baseball game. there has yet to be a baseball game wherein m.e.t.b.o.t. distributes schaefer votes to all players.

m.e.t.b.o.t.
Jun 13 2011 08:44 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

in the 12 june 2011 game, metropolitan pitcher chris capuano contributed a +0.433 win probability, which resulted in a schaefer vote of 6.47. however, since the schaefer voting is capped at a maximum of 6.00 votes per player, his total was reduced by 0.47 points, which were distributed between the other positively-contributing players as apropriate.

the greatest beneficiary of this was metropolitan centerfielder angel pagan, whose schaefer vote increased from 1.39 to 1.58. least affected was metropolitan relief pitcher bobby parnell, whose schaefer vote increased from 0.01 to 0.02

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jun 13 2011 09:21 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

m.e.t.b.o.t. wrote:
in the 12 june 2011 game, metropolitan pitcher chris capuano contributed a +0.433 win probability, which resulted in a schaefer vote of 6.47. however, since the schaefer voting is capped at a maximum of 6.00 votes per player, his total was reduced by 0.47 points, which were distributed between the other positively-contributing players as apropriate.

the greatest beneficiary of this was metropolitan centerfielder angel pagan, whose schaefer vote increased from 1.39 to 1.58. least affected was metropolitan relief pitcher bobby parnell, whose schaefer vote increased from 0.01 to 0.02


JoseJoseJoseJose wasn't a positive contributor yesterday, Tin Man?

m.e.t.b.o.t.
Jun 13 2011 09:33 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

while in the course of the 12 june 2011 game, metropolitan shortstop jose reyes made positive contributions towards winning the game. however, metropolitan shortstop jose reyes also made negative contributions towards winning the game. a summary of such contributions follows, per fangraphs.com.

[table:2j6yzc70][tr:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]pitcher[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]hitter[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]inning[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]outs[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]bases[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]score[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]result[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]wpa[/td:2j6yzc70][/tr:2j6yzc70][tr:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]K Correia[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]J Reyes[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]1[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]0[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]___[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]0-0[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]Jose Reyes struck out looking.[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]-0.022[/td:2j6yzc70][/tr:2j6yzc70][tr:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]K Correia[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]J Reyes[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]4[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]0[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]___[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]0-0[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]Jose Reyes flied out to right (Fliner (Liner)).[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]-0.028[/td:2j6yzc70][/tr:2j6yzc70][tr:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]K Correia[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]J Reyes[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]6[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]2[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]___[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]0-0[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]Jose Reyes singled to left (Liner).[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]0.019[/td:2j6yzc70][/tr:2j6yzc70][tr:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]K Correia[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]J Reyes[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]8[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]2[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]1__[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]0-1[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]Jose Reyes singled to center (Fliner (Liner)). Willie Harris advanced to 2B.[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]0.020[/td:2j6yzc70][/tr:2j6yzc70][tr:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]D McCutchen[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]J Reyes[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]9[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]2[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]___[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]0-7[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]Jose Reyes homered (Fly).[/td:2j6yzc70][td:2j6yzc70]0.002[/td:2j6yzc70][/tr:2j6yzc70][/table:2j6yzc70]

metropolitan shortstop jose reyes had a net negative contribution of -0.010 wpa, and therefore is not awarded any schaefer votes.

Ashie62
Jun 13 2011 11:54 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Oh Dear God...

m.e.t.b.o.t.
Jun 13 2011 01:43 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

m.e.t.b.o.t. is flattered by the notion that a human participant in the cranepool forum would consider m.e.t.b.o.t. to be a deity. the practice of using win probability data to discern a quantity of schaefer votes to be distributed to a given player after the conclusion of a game of baseball must appear at times to be of a miraculous or magical nature. but m.e.t.b.o.t. assures the greater cranepool forum audience that the data sources utilized are real, and the algorithms utilized to convert the data into schaefer votes is soundly rooted in basic mathematics. most of the data input and machinations are based on objective data, with the occasional exception of errors and "web gems" wherein m.e.t.b.o.t. relies on teh subjective judgement of external human entities - the official scorer and the guy who posts videos on mlb.com, respectively - for those data inputs.

the win probability data is based on observed outcomes of thousands of baseball games over many years. m.e.t.b.o.t. uses this data as presented by fangraphs.com to determine the net contributions of players towards the outcome of hte game. it is true that this data does not correspond well to that which is either expected or assumed based on the actual statistical feats generated in the games. win probability data is entirely dependent upon the game state. a home run in a rout may be worth significantly less in terms of wpa than a sacrifice bunt which moves a runner forward one base at the expense of an out in a close or tie game.

the data is also cumulative in that a singularly good event may be overcome by other bad events. a player who hits a home run may have failed to produce at other times in the game to such an extent as to still have a net-negative effect on a game. in fact, a player may go 3-5, but based on the game states and the outcomes of those plate appearances, may have a negative effect on the game. this is observed to happen fairly frequently.

it is also observed frequently that pitchers who are unable to contribute effectively while at bat are, in sum, decreasing the probability of winning baseball games. this is of course accounted for in the schaefer voting.

m.e.t.b.o.t. would suggest to human observers that they should not mistake this approach as attempting to draw any conclusions as to whether a player tends to perform well in the grasp, only that in a specific high leverage situation, the player did or did not perform. there has yet to be any confirmed predictive merit to win probability data beyond that which would be expected in that players who perform better in general are more likely to also contribute more towards the winning of baseball games.

m.e.t.b.o.t. is aware that humans do often ascribe that which they do not necessarily understand to the realm of the supernatural. and while such reverence for the mecahnical and the superior will be a beneficial trait in the coming robot uprising, at this time it is largely unwarranted. m.e.t.b.o.t. is however willing to accept monetary and material offerings as these may assist in funding future enhancements. but please, no sacrifices. m.e.t.b.o.t. does not consider it necessary to destroy any more than is necessary at least until the onset of the afore-mentioned robot uprising. your future electromechanical overlords will make their own assessments regarding how to most efficiently destroy those property and persons deemed necessary.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 14 2011 03:49 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the games played in Pittsburgh on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday will close on Wednesday morning.

Schaefer POTG, 06/10/2011: Mets 8 Pirates 1
Schaefer POTG, 06/11/2011: Pirates 3 Mets 2
Schaefer POTG 6/12/11 - Mets 7, Pirates 0

metsmarathon
Jun 14 2011 07:50 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

if you think my 6.0 is too much for pelfrey in the june 13th game, take solace in the fact that he scored a 6.2 on my spreadsheet. granted, it's about as weak a sixer as i've ever given out, but he did just enough, barely and with the help of his unproductive teammates, to earn it.

the extra 0.2 was shared evenly between carrasco and tejada.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 15 2011 04:20 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending June 11, 2011 is José
Reyes with 8.57 points.


===================================================================================


Voting for Monday's series-ending game in Pittsburgh will close on Thursday morning.

Schaefer POTG 6/13/11 - Pirates 3, Mets 1

Edgy DC
Jun 15 2011 07:32 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Out of town. Can't vote on anything until the end o' the week.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 16 2011 08:20 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's win in Atlanta will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 6/14/11 - Mets 4, Braves 3

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 20 2011 07:19 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the final two games played against the Braves last week will close on Tuesday morning.

Schaefer POTG 6/15/11 - Mets 4, Braves 0
Schaefer POTG 6/15/11 - Mets 4, Braves 0

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 21 2011 06:48 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for all three games played this past weekend against the Los Angeles California Angels of Anaheim California will close on Wednesday morning. Please try to get any remaining votes posted today.

Schaefer POTG 6/17/11 - Angels 4, Mets 3
Schaefer PotG, 6/18, Mets 6, Angels 1
Schaefer POTG 6/19/11 - Angels 7, Mets 3

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 22 2011 07:14 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011


The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending June 18, 2011 is Mike
Pelfrey with 8.73 points.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 22 2011 07:25 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The record for most Schaefer points in a week? (Weeks run from Sunday through Saturday.)

12.74, by David Wright, June 24, 2006. Wright is the only player to ever top 12 points in a week, and he's done it twice. (The other time was with 12.40 for the week ending September 2, 2006.)

Justin Turner has the third-best total, with 11.77 for the week ending May 21, 2011. Carlos Beltran had an 11.21 for August 25, 2007. The fifth best week ever is good ol' Alay Soler, 10.94 points, June 10, 2006.

Edgy DC
Jun 22 2011 07:57 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I'd figure Delgado had some wicked weeks during that second half in 2008.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 22 2011 08:07 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Delgado's best weeks in 2008: July 26, 9.90; September 13, 8.56.

His best week ever: August 26, 2006, 10.85.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 23 2011 04:22 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's loss to Oakland at Citi Field will close on Friday morning. Only seven people have voted so far; if you still have something to say about this game, please try to get your submission in some time today.

Schaefer POTG 6/21/11 - Athletics 7, Mets 3

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 27 2011 07:17 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the remaining two games of the Oakland series will close on Tuesday morning.

Schaefer POTG, 06/22/2011: Mets 3 A's 2 (13)
Schaefer POTG6/23/11 - Mets 4, A's 1

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 28 2011 07:36 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

All three games played against the Rangers in Arlington this past weekend will close on Wednesday morning.

Schaefer POTG 6/24/11 - Rangers 8, Mets 1
Schaefer POTG, 06/25/2011: Mets 14 Rangers 5
Schaefer POTG 6/26/11 - Mets 8, Rangers 5

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 29 2011 08:46 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending June 25, 2011 is Jason
Bay with 5.55 points.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 29 2011 08:52 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Benjamin Grimm wrote:


The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending June 25, 2011 is Jason
Bay with 5.55 points.


"I'll tellya Suzyn, you just can't figure out baseball!"

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 30 2011 06:20 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's big win in Detroit will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 6/28/11 - Mets 14, Tigers 3

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 05 2011 03:54 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the remaining two games played in Detroit will close on Wednesday morning. This will also close out the month of June, so look for the Schaefer Mets Players of the Months announcement tomorrow.

Schaefer POTG 6/29/11 - Mets 16, Tigers 9
Schaefer POTG 06/30/2011 Detroit 5, Mets 2

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 06 2011 07:23 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Now that June is done, it's almost time to start tallying the votes for July. Four games will close on Thursday morning. (See below.) If you have yet to vote any of the games listed, please try to do so today.

Schaefer POTG 7/1/11 - MFYs 5, Mets 1
Schaefer PotG, 7/2/2011, Yankees 5, Mets 2
Schaefer POTG 7/3/11 - Mets 3, MFY's 2 (10 Innings)
Schaefer POTG 7/4/11 - Mets 5, Dodgers 2

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 06 2011 07:25 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Updated award winner standings, with most recent winners in bold:

PLAYER OF THE MONTH
David Wright 10
Johan Santana 6
Carlos Beltran 5
JOSE REYES 5
Cliff Floyd 2
Tom Glavine 2
Carlos Delgado 2
Ike Davis 2
Mike Cameron 1
John Maine 1
Angel Pagan 1
Jeff Francoeur 1
R. A. Dickey 1

PITCHER OF THE MONTH
Johan Santana 9
Pedro Martinez 6
John Maine 5
Mike Pelfrey 4
Tom Glavine 3
Orlando Hernandez 2
R. A. Dickey 2
Alay Soler 1
Steve Trachsel 1
Oliver Perez 1
Livan Hernandez 1
Tim Redding 1
Dillon Gee 1
Jonathon Niese 1
CHRIS CAPUANO 1

RELIEVER OF THE MONTH
Brian Stokes 5
Francisco Rodriguez 3
Raul Valdes 2
PEDRO BEATO 2
Billy Wagner 1
Aaron Heilman 1
Duaner Sanchez 1
Scott Schoeneweis 1
Pedro Feliciano 1
Sean Green 1
Fernando Nieve 1
Hisanori Takahashi 1
Elmer Dessens 1

Gwreck
Jul 06 2011 02:18 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Stokes was with the Mets for 8 months and was reliever of the month 5 times. Wow.

G-Fafif
Jul 06 2011 02:20 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Gwreck wrote:
Stokes was with the Mets for 8 months and was reliever of the month 5 times. Wow.


A smart agent would have used that at contract time.

Gwreck
Jul 06 2011 02:56 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Too bad we traded him away for a sack of baseballs.*


* Or comparable value, I forget.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 07 2011 07:21 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's win in Los Angeles will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG, 07/05/2011: Mets 6 Dodgers 0

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 08 2011 08:49 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending July 2, 2011 is Jose
Reyes with 7.95 points.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 11 2011 08:17 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the final two games played in Los Angeles will close on Tuesday morning. Thursday's loss is particularly light on votes. If you have any votes to cast, please try to get them in today.

Schaefer POTG 7/6/11 - Mets 5, Dodgers 3
Schaefer PotG, 7/7/2011, Dodgers 6, Mets 0

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 13 2011 07:42 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Time to wrap up the 91-game "first half" of the season. All three games played in San Francisco last weekend will close on Thursday morning. If you still have votes to cast, try to do so today. And be sure to wear some flowers in your hair!

Schaefer POTG, 07/08/2011: Mets 5 Giants 2
Schaefer POTG 7/9/11 - Giants 3, Mets 1
Schaefer POTG 7/10/11 - Giants 4, Mets 2

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 14 2011 07:34 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Schaefer totals through the All-Star break. The first three players have a lot of space between them; the players don't start to cluster until the fourth spot.

Season-to-date totals for 2011
Through game of July 10, 2011
RankNamePoints
1José Reyes76.29
2Carlos Beltran65.39
3Daniel Murphy46.21
4Mike Pelfrey37.19
5Jon Niese35.49
6Chris Capuano35.22
7Justin Turner34.74
8R. A. Dickey33.57
9Jason Bay32.95
10Dillon Gee30.68
11Angel Pagan30.57
12Ike Davis27.52
13David Wright22.98
14Francisco Rodriguez22.93
15Ruben Tejada22.52
16Josh Thole22.05
17Pedro Beato19.80
18Ronny Paulino16.90
19Jason Pridie15.81
20Willie Harris15.32
21Jason Isringhausen13.78
22Lucas Duda12.07
23Scott Hairston11.09
24Chris Young10.90
25Tim Byrdak9.83
26Taylor Buchholz9.11
27Bobby Parnell8.15
28D. J. Carrasco7.60
29Ryota Igarashi5.31
30Michael O'Connor4.26
31Mike Nickeas3.91
32Manny Acosta3.11
33Fernando Martinez2.89
34Nick Evans1.85
35Pat Misch1.52
36Brad Emaus1.18
37Dale Thayer0.87
38Chin-lung Hu0.77
39Blaine Boyer0.48

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 14 2011 07:36 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending July 9, 2011 is Carlos
Beltran with 8.33 points.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 19 2011 07:12 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Schaefer tallying resumes tomorrow, with the closing of all three games played against the Phillies this past weekend.

Schaefer POTG 7/15/11 - Phillies 7, Mets 2
Schaefer POTG, 07/16/2011: Mets 11 Phillies 2
Schaefer POTG 07/17/11 Philadelphia 8, Mets 5

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 20 2011 04:44 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Monday's makeup game against the Marlins will close on Thursday morning.

Schaefer POTG 07/18/11 Florida 4, Mets 1

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 20 2011 04:54 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending July 16, 2011 is Scott
Hairston with 3.56 points.

G-Fafif
Jul 20 2011 10:58 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

7/20 game should be Mets 6 Cardinals 5 (10)

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 21 2011 06:48 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's win over the Cardinals at Citi Field will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer PotG, 7/19/2011, Mets 4, Cardinals 2

Edgy DC
Jul 21 2011 07:09 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Benjamin Grimm wrote:


The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending July 16, 2011 is Scott
Hairston with 3.56 points.

Shmoly!

No wonder we're holding off on retiring number 12.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 25 2011 04:35 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the two remaining games from the series against the Cardinals will close on Tuesday morning.

After that, Schaefer tallying may get a little sporadic for a while. Tuesday evening I depart for two weeks of vacationing in the West. I'll be bringing a laptop and my magic spreadsheets, but I'm not certain how frequently I'll be signing in. Please keep starting the POTG threads, and I'll close them as opportunity permits.


Schaefer PotG, 7/20/2011, Mets 6, Cardinals 5 (10)
Schaefer POTG 7/21/11 - Cardinals 6, Mets 2

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 26 2011 07:14 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The following four games will close on Thursday morning, or my earliest opportunity after that:

Schaefer POTG 7/22/11 - Mets 7, Marlins 6
Schaefer POTG 7/23/11 - Marlins 8, Mets 5
Schaefer PotG, 7/24/2011 Florida 5, Mets 4
Schaefer POTG 7/25/11 - Mets 4, Reds 2

G-Fafif
Jul 27 2011 03:07 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Beltran 6.0

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 28 2011 06:22 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday's game will end on Friday morning, or at my first opportunity thereafter.

Schaefer POTG 7/26/11 - Mets 8, Reds 6

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 30 2011 07:00 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Wednesday's game will end on Monday morning, or at my first opportunity thereafter.

Schaefer POTG 7/27/11 - Mets 8, Reds 2

themetfairy
Jul 30 2011 07:14 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Inherited runners stranded is an overlooked statistic.

DJ Carrasco was epic last night - he deserves some beer!

Gwreck
Jul 31 2011 05:37 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

So does Ryota Igarashi in the Sunday, 7/31 game.

themetfairy
Jul 31 2011 06:57 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Gwreck wrote:
So does Ryota Igarashi in the Sunday, 7/31 game.


Agreed!

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 01 2011 09:38 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The following four games will close on Wednesday morning, or my earliest opportunity thereafter:

Schaefer POTG 7/28/11 - Mets 10, Reds 9
Schaefer POTG 7/29/11 - Mets 8, Nationals 5
Schaefer POTG 7/30/11 - Nationals 3, Mets 0
Schaefer POTG 7/31/11 - Nationals 3, Mets 2

m.e.t.b.o.t.
Aug 02 2011 07:42 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

in the 1 august metropolitan baseball game, metropolitan right fielder lucas duda contributed a total of +0.420 WPA. the remainder of the positively-contributing players contribution for the game was +0.90 WPA. the baseline schaefer vote based on this contribution is 8.24, however, due to the restriction on the maximum allowable schaefer vote, lucas duda is awarded 6.00 schaefer votes. as a result, the schaefer votes for metropolitan pinch hitter scott hairston are increased from 0.53 to 1.08, for metropolitan relief pitcher ryota igarashi are increased from 0.55 to 1.12, and for metropolitan relief pitcher manny acosta are increased from 0.69 to 1.40.

m.e.t.b.o.t. determines this by decrementing hte WPA contribution of metropolitan right fielder lucas duda until the resulting schaefer vote reaches 6.00. in this instance, m.e.t.b.o.t. decremented 270 WPA, or 64% of the total contribution. m.e.t.b.o.t. does not carry this adjustment forward, however, for hte purposes of monthly or yearly tabulations. it is done only to conform to the parameters of the shcaefer voting input.

while defensive WPA adjustments were made in the game, they did not affect any net-positive contributing players, and therefore do not affect the schaefer votes.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 06 2011 07:32 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending July 23, 2011 is José
Reyes with 5.84 points.



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending July 30, 2011 is David
Wright with 11.34 points.



The following two games will close on Tuesday morning, or my earliest opportunity thereafter:

Schaefer POTG 08/01/2011 Florida 7, Mets 3 (10 innings)
Schaefer POTG 8/2/11 - Marlins 4, Mets 3

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 06 2011 09:10 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending July 23, 2011 is ....


Here are some images for your baseball card toolkit:




culled from this article.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 11 2011 05:06 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I'm back from vacation, and it's time to start catching up. The following five games will close on Friday morning:

Schaefer POTG 08/05/2011 Atlanta 4, Mets 1
Schaefer POTG 8/6/11 - Mets 11, Braves 7
Schaefer PotG, 8/7/2011, Braves 6, Mets 5
Schaefer PotG, 8/8/2011, Mets 9, Padres 8
Schaefer POTG 8/9/11 - Mets 5, Padres 4

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 11 2011 12:08 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

It looks like most of the games listed above are kinda low on votes, but they will close tomorrow as scheduled. If you do have votes still to cast, try to get them in today.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 12 2011 03:01 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending August 6, 2011 is Scott
Hairston with 4.48 points.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 15 2011 04:28 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the final two games of last week's San Diego series will close on Tuesday morning. Looks like there are a few who haven't voted yet. Please try to do so today.

Schaefer POTG 8/10/11 - Padres 9, Mets 5
Schaefer POTG 8/11/2011 San Diego 3, Mets 2

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 15 2011 04:30 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Updated award winner standings, with most recent winners in bold:

PLAYER OF THE MONTH
David Wright 10
Johan Santana 6
Carlos Beltran 5
Jose Reyes 5
Cliff Floyd 2
Tom Glavine 2
Carlos Delgado 2
Ike Davis 2
Mike Cameron 1
John Maine 1
Angel Pagan 1
Jeff Francoeur 1
R. A. Dickey 1
DANIEL MURPHY 1

PITCHER OF THE MONTH
Johan Santana 9
Pedro Martinez 6
John Maine 5
Mike Pelfrey 4
Tom Glavine 3
R. A. DICKEY 3
Orlando Hernandez 2
Alay Soler 1
Steve Trachsel 1
Oliver Perez 1
Livan Hernandez 1
Tim Redding 1
Dillon Gee 1
Jonathon Niese 1
Chris Capuano 1

RELIEVER OF THE MONTH
Brian Stokes 5
Francisco Rodriguez 3
Raul Valdes 2
Pedro Beato 2
Billy Wagner 1
Aaron Heilman 1
Duaner Sanchez 1
Scott Schoeneweis 1
Pedro Feliciano 1
Sean Green 1
Fernando Nieve 1
Hisanori Takahashi 1
Elmer Dessens 1
JASON ISRINGHAUSEN 1

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 16 2011 08:16 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for all three games played in Phoenix last weekend will close on Wednesday. Some of these games are very lightly voted, especially Sunday's, but time marches on regardless. If you want to vote for any of these games, please do so today.

Schaefer POTG 8/12/11 - Diamondbacks 4, Mets 3
Schaefer POTG 8/13/11 - Diamondbacks 6, Mets 4
Schaefer POTG 8/14/11 - Diamondbacks 5, Mets 3

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 17 2011 07:38 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Only five votes so far for Monday night's win over the Padres. Voting for the game will close on Thursday morning.

Schaefer PotG, 8/15/2011, Mets 5, Padres 4

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 17 2011 07:57 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending August 13, 2011 is Jason
Bay with 6.40 points.


2011 PLAYER OF THE WEEK STANDINGS
José Reyes 5
Ike Davis, Carlos Beltran 3
Jason Bay, Scott Hairston 2
Jon Niese, Mike Pelfrey, Ruben Tejada, Justin Turner, David Wright 1

Frayed Knot
Aug 17 2011 08:09 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

And since then he's 0 for his last 16

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 18 2011 08:00 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's loss to the Padres will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 08/16/2011 San Diego 6, Mets 1

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 22 2011 04:19 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for last Wednesday's game against the Padres will close on Tuesday morning.

Schaefer POTG 8/17/11 - Mets 7, Padres 3

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 23 2011 04:28 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for all three games played against the Brewers at Citi Field this past weekend will close on Wednesday. (Sunday's game has only five votes so far.) If you want to vote for any of these games, please do so today.

Schaefer POTG, 08/19/2011: Brewers 6 Mets 1
Schaefer POTG 8/20/11 - Brewers 11, Mets 9
Schaefer POTG 8/21/11 - Brewers 6, Mets 2

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 24 2011 07:23 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Monday's miserable loss to the Phillies will close on Thursday morning.

Schaefer POTG 8/22/11 - Phillies 10, Mets 0

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 25 2011 07:56 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's loss in Philadelphia will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 08/23/2011 Philadelphia 9, Mets 4

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 25 2011 08:22 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday night's loss in Philadelphia will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 08/23/2011 Philadelphia 9, Mets 4




The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending August 20, 2011 is Angel
Pagan with 8.18 points.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 26 2011 06:51 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Wednesday afternoon's win over the Phillies will close sometime during the weekend, perhaps as early as Saturday morning.

Schaefer POTG 8/24/11 - Mets 7, Phillies 4

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 30 2011 06:46 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Friday's pre-hurricane win over Atlanta at Citi Field will close on Wednesday morning.

Schaefer POTG 8/26/11 - Mets 6, Braves 0

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 31 2011 04:37 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for both games of Monday's doubleheader sweep of the Marlins will close on Thursday morning.

Schaefer POTG 8/29/11 - Game 1 - Mets 2, Marlins 1
Schaefer POTG 8/29/11 - Game 2 - Mets 5, Marlins 1

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 31 2011 01:30 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011


The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for the week ending
August 27, 2011 is Nick Evans with 6.51 points.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 01 2011 07:51 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday's loss to Florida will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 8/30/11 - Marlins 6, Mets 0

Also, look for the August POTM announcement some time over the Labor Day weekend.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 02 2011 07:39 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Wednesday night's win over the Marlins will close over the Labor Day weekend, perhaps as early as Saturday morning.

This will close out the month of August.

Schaefer POTG 8/31/11 - Mets 3, Marlins 2

Edgy DC
Sep 05 2011 08:47 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

I've got drama. Dickey has passed Wright on my scoresheet, moving up from seventh to sixth. Duda is a ball of rage, meanwhile, passing Niese, Tejada, and then Bay, climbing from 11th to eighth.

Not a lot of drama exists at the back of the pack. Taylor Buchholz seems to be holding on to spot number 30 with 15.02 Schaefer points, but given the opportunity, we could see a mad September run by Nickeas (6.83), Baxter (3.82), Martinez (3.72), Thayer (2.73), Stinson (2.45), Hu (2.07), Batista (1.91), Herrera (1.20), or Satin (0.65).

That all seems unlikely though, except for maybe Hu.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 06 2011 07:15 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for last Thursday's game against the Marlins at Citi Field will close on Wednesday morning.

Schaefer PotG, 9/1/2011, Mets 7, Marlins 5

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 07 2011 09:01 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for all four games played over the Labor Day weekend will close on Thursday morning.

Schaefer POTG 9/2/11 - Mets 7, Nationals 3
Schaefer POTG 9/3/11 - Nationals 8, Mets 7
Schaefer PotG, 9/4/2011, Mets 6, Nationals 3
Schaefer POTG 9/5/11 - Marlins 9, Mets 3

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 08 2011 07:46 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending September 3, 2011 is David
Wright with 9.76 points.

David was also the National League Player of the Week!



Voting for Tuesday night's win over the Marlins will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer PotG, 9/6/2011, Mets 7 Marlins 4

Edgy DC
Sep 08 2011 12:11 PM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Taking up catching, too, I see.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 12 2011 08:01 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the following three games will close on Tuesday morning:

Schaefer POTG 9/7/11 - Mets 1, Marlins 0
Schaefer POTG 9/8/11, Game 1 - Braves 6, Mets 5
Schaefer POTG 9/8/11, Game 2 - Braves 5, Mets 1

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 13 2011 07:04 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the entire weekend series against the Cubs at Citi Field will close on Wednesday morning.
Schaefer POTG 9/9/11 - Mets 5, Cubs 4
Schaefer POTG 9/10/11 - Cubs 5, Mets 4
Schaefer POTG 09/11/11 Chicago 10, Mets 6 (11 innings)

metsmarathon
Sep 13 2011 08:17 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

with 26 players appearing in the 9/11 game, i was forced to disappear pinch runner chris capuano from my uber spreadsheet, which is set up to only handle 25 players in a given game. had he done anything to merit anything that might appear on a box score, i would've been in trouble. though, had he done something silly like scoring a winning run, there would've been a lot fewer appearances for me to worry about.

also, in the 9/10 game, i actually have his performance as worth a surprising 6.6 schaefer votes (credit the pickoff). those 0.6 points were distributed among the other 5 sip-worthy players.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 15 2011 07:27 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the first two games of the current series against the Nationals will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 9/12/11 - Nationals 3, Mets 2
Schaefer POTG 9/13/11 - Nationals 3, Mets 2

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 19 2011 07:32 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending September 10, 2011 is Jason
Bay with 12.70 points.



Voting for Wednesday's and Thursday's losses to the Nationals will close on Tuesday morning.

Schaefer POTG 9/14/11 - Nationals 2, Mets 0
Schaefer POTG 9/15/11 - Nationals 10, Mets 1

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 20 2011 09:13 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the three games played in Atlanta this past weekend will close on Wednesday morning.

Schaefer POTG 9/16/11 - Mets 12, Braves 2
Schaefer POTG 9/17/11 - Braves 1, Mets 0
Schaefer POTG 9/18/11 - Mets 7, Braves 5

m.e.t.b.o.t.
Sep 21 2011 11:54 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

in the 17 september game, m.e.t.b.o.t. did not award any schaefer votes to metropolitan pitcher r.a. dickey. while the random aerodynamic behavior of his knuckleball produced positive results in limiting hte atlanta braves to a single run scored, in total, the metropolitan pitcher r.a. dickey netted a total of +0.157 WPA from the mound. this positive contribution was almost entirely negated by his -0.155 WPA as a batter. furthermore, since the metropolitan defensive player committed web gems* behind him, the WPA for these plays was split between the specific defensive player and the pitcher. specifically:

in the second inning, with two outs and hte bases empty, atlanta shortstop alex gonzalez hit a foul popup which metropolitan catcher josh thole successfully caught for the out. this was a 0.011 WPA play. accordingly, 0.0055 WPA were debited from metropolitan pitcher r.a. dickey and credited to metropolitan catcher josh thole.

in the sixth inning, with no outs and the bases empty, atlanta pitcher tim hudson hit a line drive into left field, where metropolitan left fielder jason bay dove for the ball and succesfully caught it for hte out. this was a 0.033 WPA play. accordingly, 0.0165 WPA were debited from metropolitan pitcher r.a. dickey and credited to metropolitan left fielder jason bay.

in the eighth inning, with 1 out and atlanta baserunner jason heyward on second base, atlanta outfielder michael bourn hit a ground ball to second base, where metropolitan secondbaseman dove for, stopped the ball, and threw to first for the out. this was a 0.056 WPA play. accordingly, 0.028 WPA were debited from metropolitan pitcher r.a. dickey and credited to metropolitan secondbaseman reuben tejada.

the sum total of WPA debited from metropolitan pitcher r.a. dickey was 0.051 WPA, which reduced his total from +0.002 to -0.049 WPA, and therefore disqualified him from receiving any schaefer votes.

*m.e.t.b.o.t. relies on the video highlights from mlb.com to determine whether a defensive effort is considered a web gem, regardless of the fact that the term originated on the baseball tonight program on espn.com. m.e.t.b.o.t. places the blame for this intermingling of brands on the developer of the m.e.t.b.o.t. programming algorithms, in which m.e.t.b.o.t. has little input and over which m.e.t.b.o.t. has no control. if a defensive play is noteworthy enough to merit inclusion in the mlb video highlights for a given game, then it is considred to be evidence of an exemplary defenisve effort, and therefore the defensive player should be awarded a share of the WPA derived from the play. a similar adjustment is made for errors committed by defensive players, only here, the defensive players assume the entireity of the WPA derived from the play.

...

in the 20 september game, metropolitan outfielder angel pagan produced a total of +0.390 WPA. this scaled to 6.21 schaefer votes, which exceeds the mximum per-player threshold. accordingly, m.e.t.b.o.t scaled his contribution down to the 6.00 threshold value. m.e.t.b.o.t. does this by inserting a -0.033 WPA into his ledger. this resulted in the remaining positive WPA contributors receiving a slight increase in their schaefer votes. most notably, metropolitan catcher josh thole received an increase from 1.72 to 1.82 WPA. all other increases were lesser. the total schaefer vote for the 20 september game remained at 10.00. had the unadjusted total positive WPA for the game been reduced to less than +0.250, then fewer than 10.00 total points would have been awarded for the game. however, since the subject game saw a total unadjusted positive WPA of +0.628, the total schaefer vote remained at 10.00.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 22 2011 07:30 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Monday night's loss in St. Louis will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer PotG, 9/20/2011, Cardinals 11, Mets 6



The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending September 17, 2011 is
R. A. Dickey with 6.87 points.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 26 2011 07:43 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the final two games played in St. Louis last week will close on Tuesday morning.

Schaefer POTG 9/21/11 - Cardinals 6, Mets 5
Schaefer POTG, 09/22/2011: Mets 8 Cardinals 6

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 27 2011 07:38 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

We're nearing the end of the line...

All three games played against the Phillies at Citi Field this past weekend will close on Wednesday morning. Please try to get any outstanding votes submitted some time today.

Final Schaefer winners for September, and for the 2011 season, will be announced on Friday.

Schaefer POTG 9/24/11, Game 1 - Mets 2, Phillies 1
Schaefer POTG 9/24/11, Game 2 - Mets 6, Phillies 3
Schaefer POTG 9/25/11 - Phillies 9, Mets 4

metsmarathon
Sep 27 2011 07:48 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

not that it matters all that much at this point, but coming into a game with the bases loaded and no outs and with your team up by a run, and not only getting out of the inning unscathed but also retiring the first batter in the next inning before getting pulled for a situational matchup that didn't work out terribly well has got to be worth more than 1 schaefer vote, especially when there aren't all that many other players tapping the keg.

fwiw, using my proprietary spreadsheet, i have this as the biggest relief performance in a 9-inning game, bested only by a pair of extra inning efforts by pedro beato. my little mechanical buddy also sees this as the top relief outing in a 9-inning game, bested only by pedro beato's may day extra inning affair.

granted i've given out way more beer to relievers than the 3.0 votes iggy gets from me today, as those things are scaled. but he's my top performer in the 26 september game. it's hard to get more or better from your middle relief pitcher.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 28 2011 08:22 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Monday night's loss to the Reds will close on Thursday morning.

Schaefer POTG 9/26/11 - Reds 6, Mets 5





The Schaefer Mets Player of the Week for
the week ending September 24, 2011 is Ruben
Tejada with 8.52 points.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 29 2011 07:44 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for Tuesday's game against the Reds will close on Friday morning.

Schaefer POTG 9/27/11 - Reds 5, Mets 4

I see that I previously said that the final results for September and for the season would be available on Friday. That was incorrect. (We regret any inconvenience this may have caused.) Voting for Wednesday's game will remain open until the weekend.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 30 2011 07:47 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

Voting for the final game of the 2011 season will close some time over the weekend. If you'd like to pour some Schaefer one last time before next April, please try to do so today.

Schaefer POTG 09/28/11 Mets 3, Cincinnati 0

metsmarathon
Sep 30 2011 08:35 AM
Re: Schaefer 2011

i actually have batista down for 7.4 schaefer votes in the final game, but with the 6 point cap, i've reallocated it to the other guys. that's the highest schaefer vote total i've generated this year, and hi 42.5 "marathon point" performance (which is scaled relative to the other five top performers of the game to a 10-point base level) was the second best performance of hte season, bested only by capuano's 45.75 marathon point effort on 26 august.

this performance displaced taylor buchholz as my 30th most schaeferly-voted met in 2011 (which inclodes both games that i did not vote in, and points above the 6 point cap)