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IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

metirish Apr 11 2011 01:23 PM

Some Irish luck needed(although all we have had is bad luck truth be known) Mets Reyes Murphy Wright Beltran Davis Pagan Harris Thole Pelfrey

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 11 2011 01:38 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

The Pelfrey turnaround begins NOW!!!!

metirish Apr 11 2011 01:41 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: The Pelfrey turnaround begins NOW!!!! I hope so , I don't trust him one iota though , even last season when he won ten in a row?, didn't trust him. Pelfrey is not to be trusted.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 11 2011 01:49 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Well if tonight isn't his best outing of the year, then I don't know what. I'd start to worry about an injury or something.

Willets Point Apr 11 2011 01:55 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Seven homegrown players in the starting lineup.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 01:56 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

I assume Murph is at second and Harris in left, yes? Had Harris been used in the infield in spring training at all?

Frayed Knot Apr 11 2011 03:24 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Murph hitting 2nd with Harris down below beats the hell out of the other way around. Jerry would have no doubt hung onto Harris hitting #2.

Fman99 Apr 11 2011 03:55 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Frayed Knot wrote: Murph hitting 2nd with Harris down below beats the hell out of the other way around. Jerry would have no doubt hung onto Harris hitting #2. I agree. This lineup gets me erect with optimism.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 11 2011 04:50 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Fman99 wrote: I agree. This lineup gets me erect with optimism. Yeah, but tonight's starter could have the opposite effect.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 05:08 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

I expect a big outing from Pelf and 2 out of three at home.

Ceetar Apr 11 2011 05:18 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Ashie62 wrote: I expect a big outing from Pelf and 2 out of three at home. Throw in an extra win for good measure, and now you're talking.

Ceetar Apr 11 2011 05:19 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Single and SB for Herrera in the first inning, btw I just picked him up in our fantasy league.

Ceetar Apr 11 2011 05:36 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

you guys all at the game or something? 1-0 Mets on a murphyrun, but leadoff triple for seth smith.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 05:37 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

That was a pathetic relay throw from Muffy.

Ceetar Apr 11 2011 05:40 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Keith basically just called seth smith a pussy for not running over Thole.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 05:42 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Yes he did. And that keeps Smith healthy for the Ceetars. Also, nice throw Muffy. CPF'ers there? Looking at the crowd 15 of them would be a majority on the 500 level.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 05:47 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

I want to "pre-thank" Irish for, well, the luck of the Irish for this win tonight. I hope you are a slave to the I.G.T. for longer than you might like. Yeah, I know its only 1-0 in the second.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 06:02 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

I don't know if it's the plan, but Gameday shows Pelfrey coming upstairs.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 06:03 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

...and... he gives up a double on a low one.

Ceetar Apr 11 2011 06:06 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Edgy DC wrote: ...and... he gives up a double on a low one. and by double, you mean routine fly that Willie Harris lost.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 06:08 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

And that gets the old ERA up to an even dozen.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 06:19 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

And there she is. Lead recovered.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 06:23 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Gary & Keith are speaking about Jose Reyes like he is gone already.

soupcan Apr 11 2011 06:30 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Well isn't he?

metirish Apr 11 2011 06:35 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

@KeithOlbermann Oddity of the day: Joba Chamberlain of #Yankees, on an off night, is here in the stands at CitiField watching Mets-Rockies

Ceetar Apr 11 2011 06:41 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

metirish wrote: @KeithOlbermann Oddity of the day: Joba Chamberlain of #Yankees, on an off night, is here in the stands at CitiField watching Mets-Rockies He obviously wants to see what real baseball is like.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 06:49 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

This game is pretty much the Mets of 2011 --- perfectly capable of winnng games the other team gives to them.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 11 2011 06:52 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Ceetar wrote: @KeithOlbermann Oddity of the day: Joba Chamberlain of #Yankees, on an off night, is here in the stands at CitiField watching Mets-Rockies He obviously wants to see what real baseball is like. Or to meet Snooki.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 06:55 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Hey! That inning gets Pelfrey down in the single digits with a 9.53 ERA.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:06 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Pitching around the number-eight hitter to get to the pitcher gets you pulled, Mike.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 07:06 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Pelfrey sucks ass again..Can he put up one friggin quality start?????

TheOldMole Apr 11 2011 07:07 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

When did Igarashi get called up? Who got sent down? What's new with Izzy?

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:08 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Izzy activated and Iggy called up. Boyer designated for assignment and Duda sent down.

TheOldMole Apr 11 2011 07:09 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Bay back?

TheOldMole Apr 11 2011 07:10 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Well, they brought up another reliever who can give up walks.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 07:10 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Fuck you Igarashi.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:11 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

IGGY! Stop acting like it's 2010!

Fman99 Apr 11 2011 07:15 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

It's 2011 but he still sucks cockarashi.

soupcan Apr 11 2011 07:16 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

This is gonna be a long season.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:16 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Thank you, CitiField.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 07:17 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Fuck you Pelfrey and Igarashi This is a last place team..fuck.

PiggiesTomatoes Apr 11 2011 07:21 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Collins should force each pitcher to watch Young's performance from yesterday's game -- expecially that tall glass of water that started tonight. Young went after what seemed to be each hitter, trusted his stuff and derserved a win. Pelfrey, again, pitches like a 6'7" pussy with legs and gets what he deserved - no decision. Oh yeah, and an ERA over 10 again. He's got a better than average arm with the confidence of a a fat chick waiting to be asked to the prom.

metirish Apr 11 2011 07:23 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

out by only ten feet....Jesus Christ

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:24 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Izzy 2.0 debuts tonight.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:26 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Using Bordick to pitch to one guy in the seventh with the bags empty? Really? OE: That worked poorly.

soupcan Apr 11 2011 07:32 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

I have a feeling this going to get ugly...

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:33 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Bring in m.e.t.b.o.t.!

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:34 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

This guy at the plate --- wasn't he in The Rolling Stones?

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:35 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Strikeout! There we go. And they're bringing Izzy in to pitch to Bill Wyman.

Nymr83 Apr 11 2011 07:35 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

12 years later, its IZZY TIME!!

metirish Apr 11 2011 07:35 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Geez , don't show Izzy coming in SNY

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:38 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:40 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

What are these "strikes" Isriinghausen is throwing? Funking huge.

soupcan Apr 11 2011 07:40 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

That was cool.

Nymr83 Apr 11 2011 07:40 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Welcome home, Izzy!

Fman99 Apr 11 2011 07:40 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

That was awesome. Nice work by Izzy there.

Ceetar Apr 11 2011 07:41 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Izzy comes into Lifehouse - First Time. (music reference courtesy of the wife)

bmfc1 Apr 11 2011 07:42 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

On the Extra Innings feed of the SNY broadcast, they just showed a commercial where a little kid got run over by a car. Was that on in NY?

Fman99 Apr 11 2011 07:42 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Jesus H. Tapdancing Fucking Christ, the never ending PSAs. I don't text while driving. I don't smoke. I won't run a kid over. I promise. Just stop fucking preaching to me.

bmfc1 Apr 11 2011 07:46 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 11 2011 07:46 PM

"Jesus H. Tapdancing Fucking Christ"--I'll take that as a yes. Last year we had the cockroaches, the guy who was without his voicebox, and Tito Puente, Jr.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 07:46 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Welcome home Izzy..Great too see. A few pounds heavier, some gray hair, and strikes!

soupcan Apr 11 2011 07:46 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Esai Morales gets sent to prison after raping Ally Sheedy. Sean Penn in to relieve.

soupcan Apr 11 2011 07:49 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Nope sorry, my bad. Not Sean Penn, It's Matt Belisle.

Nymr83 Apr 11 2011 07:50 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Jose triples again!

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 07:51 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Gone in any other park. Seth Smith was so disinterested in fielding his bobble I think Jose could have scored.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:51 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Jesus H. Tapdancing Fucking Christ, the never ending PSAs. I don't text while driving. I don't smoke. I won't run a kid over. I promise. Just stop fucking preaching to me. Issue advertisers are the only ones who care to buy Mets time. Waddayagonna do? My friend Brian is a traffic safety researcher, and he's brilliant. He resliced the data and astounded the traffic safety industry by uncovering strong evidence that drowsy driving was responsible for about 16% of traffic fatalities (rather than previously understood figures like 4%). The Secretary of Transportation, throughly committed to the anti-texting campaign, was furious, and ordered the research staff to debunk his conclusions. Nobody has yet.

bmfc1 Apr 11 2011 07:52 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Gary didn't just say that, did he?

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:52 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

soupcan wrote: Esai Morales gets sent to prison after raping Ally Sheedy. Sean Penn in to relieve. Wow, reachng way back for that one.

TransMonk Apr 11 2011 07:53 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Tulo can play short! Cripes. What'd Gary say? I had volume down.

Nymr83 Apr 11 2011 07:53 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

wow, great play by Tulowitski. ten lashes for the SNY crew calling it "jeteresque" though. jeter doesnt get to the ball.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 07:55 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Edgy DC wrote: Jesus H. Tapdancing Fucking Christ, the never ending PSAs. I don't text while driving. I don't smoke. I won't run a kid over. I promise. Just stop fucking preaching to me. Issue advertisers are the only ones who care to buy Mets time. Waddayagonna do? My friend Brian is a traffic safety researcher, and he's brilliant. He resliced the data and astounded the traffic safety industry by uncovering strong evidence that drowsy driving was responsible for about 16% of traffic fatalities. The Secretary of Transportation, throughtly committedt to the anti-texting campaign, was furious, and ordered the research staff to debunk his conclusions. Nobody has yet. I am always trying to quit but am aware that the taxes I pay on smokes and the 216 billion dollar Philip Morris settlement to the U.S. government 11 years back are helping to close all 50 states budgets.

soupcan Apr 11 2011 07:57 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Edgy DC wrote: soupcan wrote: Esai Morales gets sent to prison after raping Ally Sheedy. Sean Penn in to relieve. Wow, reachng way back for that one. Whenever I see 'Morales' it's what comes to mind.

soupcan Apr 11 2011 07:58 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

TransMonk wrote: Tulo can play short! Cripes. What'd Gary say? I had volume down. He called Tulowitski's play 'Jeteresque'.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 07:59 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

We need George Bamberger.

soupcan Apr 11 2011 07:59 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

How does THAT fucking happen?!

TransMonk Apr 11 2011 08:00 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Our bullpen sucks.

soupcan Apr 11 2011 08:00 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

This bullpen suuuuuuuuucks.

metirish Apr 11 2011 08:01 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

TransMonk wrote: Our bullpen sucks. the pitching overall gets a low grade...

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 08:01 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Shall we go for 14 pitchers? This bullpen and team suck.

bmfc1 Apr 11 2011 08:01 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Back to Buffalo for Parnell. Hit the road.

Nymr83 Apr 11 2011 08:02 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

I am always trying to quit but am aware that the taxes I pay on smokes and the 216 billion dollar Philip Morris settlement to the U.S. government 11 years back are helping to close all 50 states budgets. and the cumulative effects of Phillip Morris' products over the last XX years may very well have had an even higher cost on the budget through Medicare and Medicaid. What does this have to do with the game going on right now?

soupcan Apr 11 2011 08:03 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Is Pulsipher available?

Nymr83 Apr 11 2011 08:03 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

TERRIBLE bullpen for the Mets so far this year

PiggiesTomatoes Apr 11 2011 08:03 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Parnell airmails the plate and then gets jacked. This is another fucking guy that's got a very nice arm but no fucking clue how to pitch.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 08:03 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

This staff simply doesn't seem like they were prepared for the season to start.

bmfc1 Apr 11 2011 08:05 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

We should turn off each game after the 6th inning.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 08:06 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

It's not like Pelfrey has been a good bet either. He was more lucky than good today.

Ceetar Apr 11 2011 08:13 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Well, David doesn't think it's over at least.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 08:14 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Nor does Edgevid. But I'm still angry and I want Dan Warthan on line two.

Nymr83 Apr 11 2011 08:14 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Come on Ike, keep it going!

soupcan Apr 11 2011 08:16 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

I flipped over to 'Law & Order:L.A.', did Wright homah?

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 08:16 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Nymr83 wrote: I am always trying to quit but am aware that the taxes I pay on smokes and the 216 billion dollar Philip Morris settlement to the U.S. government 11 years back are helping to close all 50 states budgets. and the cumulative effects of Phillip Morris' products over the last XX years may very well have had an even higher cost on the budget through Medicare and Medicaid. What does this have to do with the game going on right now? PSA commercials were discussed.

Nymr83 Apr 11 2011 08:17 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

yeah!!!!!!

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 08:18 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

WonderMet Powers, activate!

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 08:18 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Bunt at your peril, Terry.

Nymr83 Apr 11 2011 08:22 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

rally dying....help!

PiggiesTomatoes Apr 11 2011 08:26 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Willets Point Apr 11 2011 08:32 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 08:39 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Triple again, Jose.

soupcan Apr 11 2011 08:41 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Yuck.

Nymr83 Apr 11 2011 08:41 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Booooooooo!

metirish Apr 11 2011 08:41 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

feels like late September already with this effort.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 08:52 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Collins is mellow but his face is getting redder.

Frayed Knot Apr 11 2011 08:57 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

If NYM relievers could: a) throw their pitches over the plate and b) throw fielded balls TO the plate we'd have won this game. Parnell's error attempting to throw home and Iggy botching the DP with a wide throw home were killers.

Ceetar Apr 11 2011 09:00 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Frayed Knot wrote: If NYM relievers could: a) throw their pitches over the plate and b) throw fielded balls TO the plate we'd have won this game. Parnell's error attempting to throw home and Iggy botching the DP with a wide throw home were killers. Those were the big ones. They also suffered some bad luck (And some good luck too). the shift killed them twice. Willie Harris dropped a pop fly. Those pitches to Jose looked low and outside from Street. And then he ended up expanding his strike zone and flailing at a pitch. No excuses. I just hope some of this flailing helps give the coaches areas to target, and helps Sandy cull the crap from the bullpen and leave us with beautiful out-getting roses.

Edgy DC Apr 11 2011 09:36 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

I don't think culling is the answer. I think the approach is just awful. I pray that Terry and Warthan dig that, because DW --- as a holdover --- has got to be finding his seat to be a hot one. This team, I'm certain, is finding itself, and has something worth finding. Maybe the offense will lead the pitchers to pitch with some courage. Maybe Paulino will bring some guts to the staff. I'm not confident in either of these being the answer. I do agree with yesterday's suggestion that a lot of guys could stand to learn from Young's performance. But that seems like grabbing at big fat straws too. What a shellshocked group.

Ceetar Apr 11 2011 09:43 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

if it's the approach, it's on Warthen. And we know I think he's horrible. I think it may be overreacting a bit. it's been a quick and heavy workload, and it is a lot of small samples. The backend guys will come and go, but if we can start with more leads we've got one of the best 9th inning guys, and enough talent that we can find a second guy that can pitch well before him. As Collins figures out who's going to burn him, and who he can trust, that bridge will get easier. And as it gets warmer and more arm strength and the starters go longer (they will, they're not nearly as bad as people make them out to be), things should settle in. It's 10 games.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 11 2011 09:48 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

We (me, Gwreck, LWFS) had a fun time at the game despite the shit result. We agreed that Byrdak sucks, and Parnell ought to spend some time in Buffalo. Maybe just Parnell for Tankersley at this point. Credit due to the Rockies for coming back 3 times in this game and for making a couple of excellent plays in the field, where obviously, a few bad plays by us were very costly. Pelf did himself few favors by putting so many guys on base and zooming to 100 pitches in 5 innings, even if he acquitted himself well on the leadoff triple. Gonna go see the Dexter Fowler Trio at Birdland this weekend.

Gwreck Apr 11 2011 09:50 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Parnell - you get Buffalo. Pronto. You've got options. Until you can throw your slider for strikes, we've got little use for you. Byrdak - you're on notice, mostly because we still have no other left-handed pitchers. Igarashi - you get Xanax. Calm down. Pelfrey - you get a swift kick in the ass. Man up already. I am convinced your problems are in your head and not due a lack of talent. Gonzalez and Tulowitzki - you get my grudging respect, particularly for your great arms. LWFS and Lunchbucket - you get my thanks for the good company tonight.

G-Fafif Apr 11 2011 10:23 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

My fourth straight game @ Citi to start the season -- I'm in the lineup more than Beltran. Perhaps I've built up a tolerance to suck, because I know this game sucked, but punctuated by the unsuck, it was a lovely evening; Sunday sucked more gamewise and it was lovely, too. Curse you, habit, for dulling my discernment. Hahn Solo introduced himself in the right field corner prior to game time, so that was value added. He and Izzy were good to see. Mets pitcher fielding practice going awry...not so much.

Ashie62 Apr 11 2011 10:33 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

I'd like to see 1 or 2 more position players. Collins made it clear thebullpen performance was unacceptable and if anyone cannot take the pressure they perhaps should not be on the team. It may not be early for DW to start sweating. For those that were there how was the attendance?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 11 2011 10:56 PM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

When I yelled at Igarashi to CALM DOWN, it echoed. Seriously, though, I don't know what else can be done to light a fire under the relievers we've got. Threaten corporal punishment? The threat of release ain't working, and you can only churn so many. Nice to see some signs of life out of Wright and the meaty part of the order, though, and nice to see Jose continue to price himself out of our market. Muffy did okay with that glove, too, eh? T'was good times, thanks to GWreck y JCL, but, man... did we leave all the more bummed for having our hopes raised a bit near the end there. It'll take a lot of smooth, smooth saxophone from Dexter and the Fowl Four to sooth this burn.

smg58 Apr 12 2011 07:30 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Ceetar wrote: Those pitches to Jose looked low and outside from Street. And then he ended up expanding his strike zone and flailing at a pitch. If Jose is going to bend his knees that much and then take two pitches that cross the plate at the same level as his overly bent knees, he deserves to be two strikes in the hole. And if he then swings at the pitch that breaks in the dirt, he deserves to strike out. Half of me thinks that Parnell going from the eighth inning guy here to the closer in Buffalo ten games into the season would be an extremely ill-advised panic move. But the other half is really angry at him right now. I could almost forgive the home run, if it wasn't the second straight night where a reliever buckled in the face of adversity. The wild pitch and the horrible throw home were worse, from a mental perspective. The focus is on the pen, but the starters really need to get deeper into games, starting with Pelfrey. His game is control and pitching to contact, and he's throwing 100 pitches in 5 innings. Not acceptable. I don't have a problem with carrying an extra pitcher until Bay is healthy, because the pen is overworked. It's not like Duda was forcing the Mets to keep him up. The bizarre thing is that all of our relievers have legit major-league credentials -- except for Beato, who's naturally the only guy who's pitched well. They're better than this. They were much better than this only a month ago. I think the whole lot of them just need to settle down and get through this.

Ceetar Apr 12 2011 07:46 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Yeah, they need to let things settle, they're a remarkably new team (44%) with new leadership (mostly) and still getting a feel for things. I agree about Parnell, and that's the thing, he probably lost the role as "go to 8th inning guy" at least for now. Something that'll get outs will get that. That's what happens, the pen will be a state of flux but it's too early to declare it disgustingly terrible and the Mets will never hold leads. I wasn't expecting Pelfrey to go from his last start to how he pitched in April last year overnight. He didn't implode (only gave up 1 unearned RBI hit with the other two being inherited runners scoring) and while he missed the strikezone a lot and worked full counts too much, he did battled or whatever. Except for the hit and run by the pitcher which kinda infuriates mef or some reason, he would've probably gone 6. I'm not sure why he couldn't retire the 8th hitter, and I hope the Mets at least take a look at his scouting report today and question if maybe they need to approach him differently. That was probably the crux of it. Had Pelfrey retired him even just twice, he'd have led off the next inning with the easy out, and maybe ended up looking a little more economical. Dickey had a nail issue, Niese is going to have the occasional "I got rocked" moments in his youth. The Chrises are probably goign to be babied along to building up arm strength, but I think in another couple of weeks they'll all be giving us a little more length than now. It is April after all.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 12 2011 07:53 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Whatever the issue with the bullpens -- I think the anointment of Parnell and Byrdak to their respective roles were awfully early calls without a lot of strong evidence to support them -- the Mets have to start winning games like this or the mojo's gonna vanish and the Pons will absolutely go broke.

TransMonk Apr 12 2011 07:53 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Mullets for all!

Edgy DC Apr 12 2011 07:57 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Not to harp too much on it, but that's a part of why you let Chris Young take it as deep as his abilities allow. It's not just right for the game, it's right for the next game where you're going to be needing those releivers you needlessly put to work the day before. That's harping too much on it. I'm sorry.

soupcan Apr 12 2011 07:58 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Ceetar wrote: Yeah, they need to let things settle, they're a remarkably new team (44%) with new leadership (mostly) and still getting a feel for things. I agree about Parnell, and that's the thing, he probably lost the role as "go to 8th inning guy" at least for now. Something that'll get outs will get that. That's what happens, the pen will be a state of flux but it's too early to declare it disgustingly terrible and the Mets will never hold leads. I wasn't expecting Pelfrey to go from his last start to how he pitched in April last year overnight. He didn't implode (only gave up 1 unearned RBI hit with the other two being inherited runners scoring) and while he missed the strikezone a lot and worked full counts too much, he did battled or whatever. Except for the hit and run by the pitcher which kinda infuriates mef or some reason, he would've probably gone 6. I'm not sure why he couldn't retire the 8th hitter, and I hope the Mets at least take a look at his scouting report today and question if maybe they need to approach him differently. That was probably the crux of it. Had Pelfrey retired him even just twice, he'd have led off the next inning with the easy out, and maybe ended up looking a little more economical. Dickey had a nail issue, Niese is going to have the occasional "I got rocked" moments in his youth. The Chrises are probably goign to be babied along to building up arm strength, but I think in another couple of weeks they'll all be giving us a little more length than now. It is April after all. -Ceetar, the Optimistic Mets Fan

Edgy DC Apr 12 2011 08:00 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

My new band name: The Chrises.

Ceetar Apr 12 2011 08:38 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Edgy DC wrote: My new band name: The Chrises. Dickey and the Chrises?

TransMonk Apr 12 2011 08:42 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Big Pelf and the Chrises

metirish Apr 12 2011 08:48 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Not calling him Big Pelf anymore, doesn't deserve such a moniker.

willpie Apr 12 2011 09:10 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Well that sucked.

HahnSolo Apr 12 2011 09:13 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

It was nice meeting GFafif and LWFS for the first time. The rest? blech. And I could not believe Collins in the postgame talking about how he thought Pelf showed improvement! It was torture watching that guy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 13 2011 10:34 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

Did my ears deceive me, or was it a REALLY tepid reaction for Izzy the other night? (Even taking into account crowd size, and the fact that half of the attendees were people who were fetal or preverbal when he was around the first time.)

Gwreck Apr 13 2011 11:46 AM Re: IGT Rockies @ Mets - 04/11/11

I recall that it was a warmer round of applause than I had expected. But certainly no hero's welcome or anything like that.