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CPF NL League 2012

metirish
Apr 12 2011 10:55 AM

This is to remind me not to join next year, yes I suck but there is absolutely no fun in this league, and that in no way means you guys , you're all great craic.....if I could only do the live draft then leave I would....

Nymr83
Apr 12 2011 08:08 PM
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perhaps you could partner up with someone who wants to play but cant make the draft time, i'm sure they'd rather have you than auto-draft.

Vic Sage
Apr 13 2011 01:06 PM
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whattsamatta, Irish?
why no fun?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 13 2011 01:12 PM
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One thing is not playing a "keeper" league sorta hammers the fun out of it when you're in the second division. There's something to be said for the ease of running this one but might be more fun to do the whole auction draft/ build for the future kinda thing.

Any interest in something like that?

metirish
Apr 13 2011 01:14 PM
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I look at my team and yeah it has some holes that need filling but damn if there is anybody out there to pick up.Do I spend an hour a night pouring over charts?, no I don't but I make sure my pitching is set and my players....some of these guys available have like five at bats.


What would you do with my team?

Vic Sage
Apr 13 2011 01:14 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2011 01:15 PM

Any interest in something like that?

totally. with a LIVE in-person rotisserie-style auction.

metirish
Apr 13 2011 01:14 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:

Any interest in something like that?



I'm interested in that, very much so.

Vic Sage
Apr 13 2011 01:17 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 13 2011 01:29 PM

metirish wrote:
I look at my team and yeah it has some holes that need filling but damn if there is anybody out there to pick up.Do I spend an hour a night pouring over charts?, no I don't but I make sure my pitching is set and my players....some of these guys available have like five at bats.


What would you do with my team?


its the problem with a 13-team/NL-only/4-OFer league. if you have an injury, or get unlucky, or make a mistake in the draft, you are stuck playing part-time guys... or guys who hardly play at all!

I agree. i don't like that either. If a team has an injury, they bring in somebody to fill the slot... they don't just abandon the position! While i understand wanting to tighten things up a little (how competitive can a league be if there are all-stars on the waiver wire?), this league goes too far.

Perhaps a trade?

metirish
Apr 13 2011 01:21 PM
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I'll test the trade waters when I get home , damned IS people at work have blocked fantasy baseball.

Vic Sage
Apr 13 2011 01:30 PM
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damned IS people at work have blocked fantasy baseball


damn them to hell!

metirish
Apr 14 2011 06:01 AM
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Vic, counter offer made.

Gwreck
May 15 2011 10:46 PM
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I haven't ever played in the CPF league before but if you're planning on switching to a new format next year and need players, let me know...

attgig
Jul 05 2011 02:16 PM
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same with gwreck. I've missed out on these leagues here, but i'd be up for a serious league.

bmfc1
Jul 06 2011 08:46 AM
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If we're going to stay NL-only, we should cut an OF spot and 2 or 3 bench spots so more players are available as FAs.

I recommend a switch to ESPN. The interface is far superior to Yahoo!

Ceetar
Jul 06 2011 01:02 PM
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bmfc1 wrote:
If we're going to stay NL-only, we should cut an OF spot and 2 or 3 bench spots so more players are available as FAs.

I recommend a switch to ESPN. The interface is far superior to Yahoo!


I've never liked most of the other formats, but I agree on cutting an OF spot. not enough players out there. There are like 7 guys that aren't on teams and they get 2-3 AB a week.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2012 11:35 AM
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Bump.

Anyone ready to take charge of this?

As discussed above, who's on board with a "keeper" style league, and live auction draft?

Vic Sage
Jan 19 2012 12:46 PM
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i like both those ideas, but wouldn't a "live" draft require an in-person meeting (which penalizes our out-of-town participants)? And keeper leagues require an optimism about our continued existence as a species (or even a CPF subset of our species) that i'm not sure i share.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2012 12:48 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:
Any interest in something like that?

totally. with a LIVE in-person rotisserie-style auction.

Ceetar
Jan 19 2012 01:19 PM
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Vic Sage wrote:
i like both those ideas, but wouldn't a "live" draft require an in-person meeting (which penalizes our out-of-town participants)? And keeper leagues require an optimism about our continued existence as a species (or even a CPF subset of our species) that i'm not sure i share.


so you're saying I shouldn't really worry about trying to lose weight for the future? gotcha.


I'm good with the keeper league idea. I don't think we have to do a live draft do we? It would certainly help with the randomness I felt like was inherent with trying to guess which fringe guys were going to get playing time if someone got hurt last year since we pretty much had every active player on the rosters.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 19 2012 01:59 PM
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I think in order to do an auction you'd wanna at least be at your computer, yeah? In person is fun but I could see the logistic issues.

Ceetar
Jan 19 2012 02:14 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I think in order to do an auction you'd wanna at least be at your computer, yeah? In person is fun but I could see the logistic issues.


although a couple of years ago they did invent this thing called conferences calls.

smg58
Jan 19 2012 02:42 PM
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I'm cool with a keeper league. Since I don't think we've ever had a draft where everybody could get to their computer at the same time, I don't see how getting everybody into the same real room at the same time is feasible. I've never tried auction style, but would be willing.

Ceetar
Jan 19 2012 02:55 PM
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What's a good keeper site? Yahoo doesn't do that right?

Nymr83
Jan 19 2012 03:08 PM
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I wouldn't want to go Auction unless its in-person, if its online whoever misses the draft isn't going to like the results.

You can use any site you want really, if Yahoo won't carry things over we can just post the keepers here and the commish can enter them pre-draft next year.

I like CBS, I've heard good things about ESPN too.


I'm cool with the keeper idea, but you need a lot more rules going in (who can you keep, for how many years, are there penalties), most of all you run into arguments surrounding keeper trades (or, as the contender not being helped will call them, "Dump Deals") that are better regulated ahead of time.

Ceetar
Jan 19 2012 08:08 PM
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and who here doesn't love a good argument?

well, we probably have some time, still like 2.5 months until freaking season starts.

Ceetar
Jan 20 2012 07:59 AM
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Brian Erni recommends ESPN. fantasy season hasn't started just yet, but we're getting closer.

bmfc1
Jan 21 2012 10:49 AM
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Looking forward to another season... but again, consider ESPN or even CBS... anything but Yahoo!

Fman99
Jan 21 2012 07:19 PM
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Well, since I already run a local 14 team keeper league here in town I won't be taking up management of another one, thanks.

Yahoo does have keeper league options. I've preferred them for many years to ESPN's league management, though I'll admit I don't know CBS. They were a for-pay service for the longest time.

I'd be up for playing again in 2012, and if you want someone to set up a free Yahoo site league I can do it as I did the last few years. I am also fine with cutting the number of active slots to make it easier to find talent on the waiver wire.

Ceetar
Jan 31 2012 10:03 PM
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We could try Otto Neu if anyone's interested. Keeper style, 40 man rosters, etc. $10 though.

[url]http://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/userdashboard

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 01 2012 10:23 AM
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I'm ok with that for $10.

metsmarathon
Feb 02 2012 07:51 AM
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looks like it could be an interesting thing to try.

i'm certain there'll be a significant benefit to anyone whose ever played a auction draft before, and an even more significant benefit to anyone who won't have a munchkin nipping at their heels all night long.

the draft will be like herding cats, i'm sure. but what the heck. i have a title to defend.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 02 2012 08:02 AM
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I haven't participated in a fantasy baseball auction in 20 years so forgive me if I call out $30 for Barry Larkin.

Ceetar
Feb 02 2012 08:31 AM
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metsmarathon wrote:
looks like it could be an interesting thing to try.

i'm certain there'll be a significant benefit to anyone whose ever played a auction draft before, and an even more significant benefit to anyone who won't have a munchkin nipping at their heels all night long.

the draft will be like herding cats, i'm sure. but what the heck. i have a title to defend.


Never have. It'll be interesting though, since it's a continuous league, the balance between signing prospects and guys that'll actually contribute.

Nymr83
Feb 02 2012 05:06 PM
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Keep your ENTIRE 40-man for next year? Sign me the heck up, I love deep leagues and I love leagues with long term keeper decisions. Let's do it!

smg58
Feb 02 2012 08:53 PM
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Sounds like fun.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 02 2012 08:57 PM
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Nymr83 wrote:
Keep your ENTIRE 40-man for next year? Sign me the heck up, I love deep leagues and I love leagues with long term keeper decisions. Let's do it!


i would imagine if its truly realistic some players would be due raises? I don't know this.

Also, can't imagine you'd wanna keep all 40 but some stability is a good thing.

Ceetar
Feb 03 2012 06:57 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Nymr83 wrote:
Keep your ENTIRE 40-man for next year? Sign me the heck up, I love deep leagues and I love leagues with long term keeper decisions. Let's do it!


i would imagine if its truly realistic some players would be due raises? I don't know this.

Also, can't imagine you'd wanna keep all 40 but some stability is a good thing.


Not sure. I think their value does go up and that affects the cap or whatever.

there's a drop deadline every spring. for most leagues it was last week. I saw something about voting off players on the other teams too. I guess that's akin to offering them bigger contracts to leave.

Ashie62
Feb 04 2012 09:09 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Bump.

Anyone ready to take charge of this?

As discussed above, who's on board with a "keeper" style league, and live auction draft?


If you are doing a Keeper league its gotta be auction style. I'm for it but it might get tricky rules wise.

smg58
Feb 04 2012 09:11 PM
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Auction bidding for 40-player teams could take a long while, too. And we would all have to be there. Unless you have everybody submit one bid per player, like you would for a guy on the waiver wire?

Nymr83
Feb 05 2012 01:14 PM
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You could have an auction for the starting roster and then snake-draft the bench?

attgig
Feb 08 2012 10:53 AM
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is there still room for another gm in this league?

smg58
Feb 08 2012 10:59 AM
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Since I don't think anything's been settled, welcome abordick!

Ceetar
Feb 08 2012 11:00 AM
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smg58 wrote:
Since I don't think anything's been settled, welcome abordick!


attgig wrote:
is there still room for another gm in this league?


definitely.

attgig
Feb 08 2012 02:19 PM
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sweet!