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Options Declined and Picked Up

Valadius Oct 31 2005 06:10 PM

Options Declined - Braden Looper, Doug Mientkiewicz Options Picked Up - Steve Trachsel

Nymr83 Oct 31 2005 07:32 PM

good, good, and good. Whether we have room for Traschel right now shouldn't matter, we can make a trade later if we feel the need to have less good pitching. If the plan was to go forward with Jacobs at 1B i'd want to keep Mientkiewicz around as his backup, but if we're going after a big 1B bat theres no room or place for him on this team. I was obviously a member of the "i don't like looper" contingent. regardless of how you felt about him we all knew he wouldn't be back. Hopefully this is a sign that Ryan/Wagner is on the way.

Edgy DC Oct 31 2005 08:46 PM

No ruling yet on Heredia?

ScarletKnight41 Oct 31 2005 08:47 PM

There's no realistic chance of Mr. Steroid coming back, is there?

smg58 Oct 31 2005 08:48 PM

No surprises there, which is a good thing. The only thing with Trachsel, since he now has veto power over trades, is that the Mets should make sure they know where he would and wouldn't go if a trade came up.

Nymr83 Oct 31 2005 10:16 PM

oh and the Mets declined Graves' insane $5mil option, i think i'd have hunted down minaya if they exercized that. I'd bring him back for AAA if he was interested, if he looked good enough down there i'd call him up when the need arose...if he's not ok with that idea he can look elsewhere theres no way he's worth a major league deal right now.

Frayed Knot Oct 31 2005 11:23 PM

]Hopefully this [declining Looper's option] is a sign that Ryan/Wagner is on the way. I don't think one has anything to do with the other. That they've decided to replace Looper as closer isn't a sign that it'll be a top-dollar one. ]The only thing with Trachsel, since he now has veto power over trades, is that the Mets should make sure they know where he would and wouldn't go if a trade came up. There's no way Trax is going to let them know that kind of stuff in advance. When you have guys with no-trade protection you just have to take your chances and deal with it if/when trade options come up.

Elster88 Nov 01 2005 09:15 AM

I'd have no problem bring Loopy back as a setup guy.

Valadius Nov 01 2005 09:58 AM

Blooper needs to prove himself before I'll let him touch a Mets uniform.

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2005 10:30 AM

Prove himself how -- by showing that he's able to pitch effectively in NY? ... he's already done that IMO by what he did in '04. The question I suppose is how much they believe his poor pitching in '05 was on account of the injury he just "got fixed" or how much was something else. As it is, Minaya has said that he's going to keep in contract w/Loopy's agent toward a possible deal for next year. What they did by dumping the option was to show that they wanted no part of was bringing Loop back for the money ($5-sumtin mil or so) that the option would have locked in.

Edgy DC Nov 01 2005 10:37 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 01 2005 10:46 AM

I'm under the impression that there's almost nobody who has a switch in his system that allows them to pitch well for one team but poorly when he's in a New York uniform. I guess it flatters us to think so, though we should ask why. And too often is a circumstance of a guy pitching well there and bad here is brandished as a causation.

Frayed Knot Nov 01 2005 10:43 AM

I don't buy the 'NY/not NY' dichotomy either, just pointing out that if that is the worry of some peeps than it's already been answered. I think the only thing he needs to do to earn a role here is prove that he's healthy and ready to go - keeping in mind that if someone else offers him 'closer money' then you let him walk.

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 11:55 PM

Dae-Sung Koo's option is declined. I don't know whether that makes him instantly free to sign with another US team, or the Mets still hold a reserve on his US rights. It's too bad. I really think he had winning stuff, but just missed in his approach.

smg58 Nov 05 2005 10:44 AM

What is Ishii's contract status? I don't see him on the FA list, but I was under the impression the Mets had an option on him.

Edgy DC Nov 05 2005 12:14 PM

Koo does, in fact, remain Mets property.

MFS62 Nov 05 2005 02:12 PM

I believe I saw that that was a formality, since he was released, then signed to a minor league contract on the same day as Graves. Later

metirish Nov 05 2005 11:37 PM

Some info on Ishii and others, Kaz has a hell of a buyout $...I hope Bert stays.. ]Mets aiming to close with Wagner By JOHN DELCOS jdelcos@thejournalnews.com THE JOURNAL NEWS (Original publication: November 5, 2005) Having declined the option on closer Braden Looper earlier in the week, the Mets expressed interest in one of their premier free-agent targets: Philadelphia Phillies left-handed closer Billy Wagner. The Phillies retain exclusive negotiating rights until Nov. 10, so Mets general manager Omar Minaya could not talk money during his reported meeting with Wagner this week in Virginia. The Mets did not confirm the meeting. A catcher, a power-hitting first baseman and a second baseman are the Mets' other priorities. The club announced yesterday that it had declined to pick up the $2 million option on left-hander Dae-Sung Koo. Koo, 0-0 with a 3.91 ERA in 33 appearances last season, remains property of the Mets. He made a $400,000 base salary last season. Koo's shining moment remains his double against Randy Johnson and the Yankees on May 21. Koo then scored from second on a bunt. The Mets also said they have until Nov. 15 to decide whether to exercise the options on pitchers Kaz Ishii ($3.25 million with a $2.2 million buyout) and Felix Heredia ($2.5 million option with a $200,000 buyout). Heredia will serve a 10-day suspension at the start of next season after testing positive for steroids. Right-handed reliever Roberto Hernandez, whom the Mets hope to keep, filed for free agency.

Nymr83 Nov 05 2005 11:56 PM

heredia should be bought out easily. it sucks that ishii's number is so high but they stil might as well buy him out, they have like 8 or 9 guys i'd rather see starting a game for them.

Edgy DC Nov 06 2005 11:57 AM

They would do better to pick up Ishii's option. They could pick him up and trade him while sending 2.2 mills of his salary with him and at least get compensation for him.

smg58 Nov 06 2005 07:31 PM

I remember reading somewhere that the Dodgers agreed to foot the bill for the buyout when the trade was made, the way the Red Sox did with Mintkiewicz. If that's true, just let him go. If not, he could conceivably be worth more as trade bait or as a possible LOOGY option. Either way, it's hopefully likely he's started his last game with the Mets.

Nymr83 Nov 06 2005 07:37 PM

Edgy DC wrote: They would do better to pick up Ishii's option. They could pick him up and trade him while sending 2.2 mills of his salary with him and at least get compensation for him. i hear what you're saying, but i don't think thats going to happen. the 2.2 million is gone no matter what, leaving a balance of 1.05 million between his salary and his buyout. is it worth that million to trade him for a marginal prospect? i'd say no, and that nobody will take him unless the mets are paying almost the whole salary. if you think they can get someone who isn't junk for him and that they can get someone to pickup at least that million then go ahead and sign him...i just wouldnt bother.

Valadius Nov 15 2005 07:04 PM

The Mets have declined the options of both Felix Heredia and Kazuhisa Ishii. Good riddance.

Zvon Nov 15 2005 08:28 PM

Valadius wrote: The Mets have declined the options of both Felix Heredia and Kazuhisa Ishii. Good riddance. Yep, time to move on. We sure gave Ishii a chance to evolve. Good luck to both wherever they go.

smg58 Nov 16 2005 08:24 AM

The Mets were responsible for half of Ishii's buyout. Technically, since he has less than six years of service, he is still under the Mets' control, but picking up his contract would actually be cheaper than offering him arbitration. I think it's safe to say he's not coming back.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 16 2005 09:27 AM

Ishii might have made an interesting swingman/lefty specialist IMO, but he was quoted by the papers in Japan saying he wanted to be a starter, which wouldn't have been in the Mets' plans. That said, if he doesn't want back, why not offer arbitration? (anyone know what class he belongs to? Is that stuff out yet?) Met lawyers could probably win. I suppose the risk is the space on the 40, and the possibility he goes back to NPB.