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Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 12:06 PM

I started my ongoing project of tabulating which Mets are in which in smal-time Halls of Fame. Piazza makes it six Mets are in the Italian-American Sports Hall of Fame. Name the other five.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2005 12:07 PM

Yogi Berra? Joe Torre? Lee Mazzilli?

Diamond Dad Nov 03 2005 12:09 PM Italian-American Hall of Fame?

Didn't know there was an Italian-American Hall of Fame. Where is it? Sounds like a nice Crane Pool group outing! Lee Mazzilli Is Bobby Valentine Italian? That's a head-scratcher, all right.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 03 2005 12:09 PM

Bobby Valentine John Franco

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 12:16 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Yogi Berra? Joe Torre? Lee Mazzilli? Stop asking and start answering with confidence! Yogi Berra is one. Joe Torre is two. Lee Mazzilli is not three. ="Diamond Dad"]Lee Mazzilli Is Bobby Valentine Italian? Answers. Not questions. Bobby Valentine isn't Italian. He's Italian-American. The way things are going, he'll soon be Italian-American-Japanese. Nonetheless he's right. But, you too, answer with confidence. That's three. ="Johnny Dickshot"]Bobby Valentine John Franco Too late on the former. Wrong on the latter. Cool that JD answered Johnny and Bobby while he's posting as Johnny Dickshot at the level of Bobby Valentine.

Valadius Nov 03 2005 12:21 PM

Jim Fregosi?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2005 12:24 PM

I know he's not a Met, but I'm wondering if Roy Campanella is in there. Or does his black mother keep him from being seen as Italian-American? If he's not in there, he oughta be.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 12:29 PM

Valadius wrote: Jim Fregosi? Stop asking! Yes. Jim Fregosi. One more. Campy was inducted in 1990, three years before he died.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2005 12:33 PM

Frank Viola!

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 12:35 PM

That's the way to answer! You are correct, sir!

Valadius Nov 03 2005 12:35 PM

I was just gonna say that!

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 12:38 PM

So, of six Met Hall of Famers, three both played for and managed the team, one (Fregosi) interviewed and one made it far in interviewing to be manager. The likely next to to be inducted --- Mazzilli and Franco, to judge by respondents' answers --- will also someday be managerial candidates for hte Mets.

metirish Nov 03 2005 12:43 PM

I think Franco will be a Mets coach in a few years, in the system of course, maybe in Brooklyn to start and in perhaps five years he'll be coaching with the big club.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 12:59 PM

No Mets were found in the Greek-American Sports Hall of Fame.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 01:02 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2005 01:24 PM

One Met is enshrined in the Polish-American Sports Hall of Fame. Name that Met. On edit: oops, two. Name those Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2005 01:07 PM

Joe Grzenda!

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 01:09 PM

No! Thank you for playing!

seawolf17 Nov 03 2005 01:10 PM

The most Polish names I can come up with off the all-time roster are Joe Orsulak and Tom Paciorek.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 01:13 PM

Arre those your answers?

seawolf17 Nov 03 2005 01:20 PM

ARGH! Yes. Tom Paciorek and Joe Orsulak.

metirish Nov 03 2005 01:24 PM

I found the answers and one I would never have guessed.......not exactly what you might expect from a Polish name...

seawolf17 Nov 03 2005 01:33 PM

Aha! Rafael Santana!

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 01:35 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2005 01:42 PM

Paciorek, yes. Orsulak, no. Tom Paciorek Inducted June 11, 1992 One of four brothers to play professional baseball, Paciorek chalked up a .282 average in an 18-year career (1970-1987) with the Los Angeles Dodgers, Atlanta, Seattle, Chicago White Sox, New York Mets and Texas. His career-best year came in 1981 at Seattle when he batted .326, second-best in the American League, and played in the All-Star Game. Down the September stretch in 1983, he hit well over .400 to lead the White Sox to the American League West Division championship. He finished the year at .307 (his third straight year at .300 or better) and a team-leading .462 slugging average. An All-American in football and baseball at the University of Houston, Paciorek played shortstop on the Hamtramck (Mich.) 1961 Pony League world champions. Click on memorabilia for larger view.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 01:36 PM

MetsIrish: Big Fat Cheater.

metirish Nov 03 2005 01:40 PM

Well I did admit to it, and I didn't post the answer and then claim like I knew it all along.....LOL

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 01:42 PM

i fixed the image links. That trophy looks suspiciously like an emmy.

MFS62 Nov 03 2005 01:49 PM

Edgy DC wrote: No Mets were found in the Greek-American Sports Hall of Fame. If only for just one game, Bob Mlicki should be in the Polish-American Mets Hall of Fame. Later

metirish Nov 03 2005 01:59 PM

You mean Dave Mlicki 62, and for that game pitched against the MFY's I agree.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 02:18 PM

Still looking for one more pole.

seawolf17 Nov 03 2005 02:26 PM

If you're looking for Dick Pole, you won't find him here.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 02:28 PM

One more Polish-American guy, to clarify.

Diamond Dad Nov 03 2005 02:31 PM Never would have guessed

OK, I cheated, so I won't post the answer -- but Never -- not in a million, billion years -- would I have gotten that one. not even if you gave me a list of all the players on the mets in history and I went down the list, one by one. Never. No way.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2005 02:38 PM

I guess that means it's not Phil Mankowski.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 02:38 PM

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seawolf17 Nov 03 2005 02:41 PM

That's a lot of Mets. Don Zimmer.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 03 2005 02:41 PM

Grover Powell!

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 02:42 PM

That's two elimnated.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 02:44 PM

Hint: In the original "Gimme a Met" thread, he was the roadie who picked out groupies for a famous metal band's debauchery.

seawolf17 Nov 03 2005 02:49 PM

And you can delete all the black and Latin guys from that list, along with anyone else who has any kind of "Z" or weird consonant combination, because I'm assuming his name doesn't "sound Polish."

Willets Point Nov 03 2005 02:51 PM

Wally Whitehurst.

ScarletKnight41 Nov 03 2005 03:43 PM

D-Dad is NOT fat!

metirish Nov 03 2005 08:21 PM

I can't believe you guys haven't got this player yet, yeah so I cheated earlier today and found his name but still....a crate of schaefer to the person that gets him.

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 08:41 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 04 2005 05:49 AM

Not Whitehurst. He shares something with Darren Bragg and Bob Friend.

metsmarathon Nov 03 2005 09:40 PM

ron swoboda!!!! aw, hell. i cheated. i was ][ this close to guessing him, instead of the above...

Edgy DC Nov 03 2005 09:47 PM

Not Rocky. Maybe soon.

Valadius Nov 03 2005 11:03 PM

They all played for the Yankees.

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 05:50 AM

Did you do peaky-peaky, too?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2005 05:58 AM

Should we go to Twenty Questions?

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 06:04 AM

Yes.

MFS62 Nov 04 2005 06:05 AM

If we can use some of the weird ancestral associations some athletes use to get on Olympic teams, then Ron Swoboda might also be in the Chinese-American Baseball Hall Of Fame. I remember that his grandmother (when she was widowed) got a job in a Chinese Restaurant and later married the owner. So Ron had a Chinese grandfather. Later

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2005 06:18 AM

Is he a pitcher?

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 06:38 AM

1) Yes, he is a pitcher.

Valadius Nov 04 2005 07:10 AM

Actually, no, I don't know who it is. And there's 92 Mets who played for the Yankees as well, so that doesn't help too much.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2005 07:12 AM

Did he make his Mets debut before the beginning of the 1986 season?

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 07:14 AM

2) No, he made not his Mets debut before the beginning of the 1986 season.

metirish Nov 04 2005 08:28 AM

Does he have a winning record as a Mets pitcher?

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 08:30 AM

3) No, he does not have a winning record as a Mets pitcher.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 04 2005 08:40 AM

Is he Turk Wendell?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2005 08:41 AM

126 possibilities (pitchers with losing or .500 records who debuted in 1986 or later) Don Aase Edwin Almonte Jason Anderson Manny Aybar Mike Bacsik James Baldwin Blaine Beatty Heath Bell Rigo Beltran Mike Birkbeck Willie Blair Brian Bohanon Toby Borland Terry Bross Kevin Brown Tim Burke Eric Cammack Juan Castillo Jaime Cerda Brad Clontz Mark Corey Reid Cornelius Jeff D'Amico Vic Darensbourg Kane Davis Mike Draper Tom Edens Scott Erickson Shawn Estes Pedro Feliciano Tom Filer John Franco Mike Fyhrie Paul Gibson Bob Gibson Matt Ginter Tom Glavine Mauro Gozzo Danny Graves Jeremy Griffiths Lee Guetterman Eric Gunderson Tim Hamulack Pete Harnisch Aaron Heilman Doug Henry Felix Heredia Manny Hernandez Eric Hillman Brett Hinchliffe John Hudek Jonathan Hurst Jeff Innis Kaz Ishii Jason Isringhausen Jason Jacome Bobby Jones Ricardo Jordan Jeff Kaiser Satoru Komiyama Dae-Sung Koo Graeme Lloyd Kevin Lomon Braden Looper Rob MacDonald Mike Maddux Jim Mann Barry Manuel Josias Manzanillo Pedro Martinez Roger Mason Chuck McElroy Greg McMichael John Mitchell Dave Mlicki Dan Murray Jeff Musselman Hideo Nomo Yorkis Perez Robert Person Bill Pulsipher Steve Reed Mike Remlinger Jerrod Riggan Royce Ring Jason Roach Grant Roberts Rich Rodriguez Brian Rose Glendon Rusch Jose Santiago Rich Sauveur Dan Schatzeder Pete Schourek Don Schulze Frank Seminara Jae Seo Doug Simons Pete Smith Dennis Springer Mike Stanton Pat Strange Scott Strickland Jeff Tam Frank Tanana Kevin Tapani Billy Taylor John Thomson Steve Trachsel Rick Trlicek Julio Valera Joe Vitko Donne Wall Derek Wallace Gene Walter Allen Watson Dave Weathers Dave West Mickey Weston Dan Wheeler Rick White Wally Whitehurst Paul Wilson Tyler Yates Anthony Young Victor Zambrano

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 08:44 AM

4) No, it's not Turk Wendell. But he may be in the Turkish-American Sports Hall of Fame.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 04 2005 08:45 AM

Wasting questions, going for the big score: Is he Mike Stanton?

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 11:28 AM

5) No, it's not Mike Stanton. You don't have very high standards for what makes a quality Polish-American athlete, do you?

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2005 11:41 AM

Did he make his Mets debut before the start of the 1995 season?

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 11:52 AM

6) Yes, he debuted as a Met before the start of the 1995 stazione.

HahnSolo Nov 04 2005 11:54 AM

Did he pitch somewhere before coming to the Mets?

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 12:29 PM

7) Yes, he did pitch somewhere before coming to the Mets.

rpackrat Nov 04 2005 12:39 PM

Gene Walter?

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 12:46 PM

8) No, not Gene Walter.

Willets Point Nov 04 2005 12:49 PM

Does Armando Benitez have the same thing in common with anonymous Polish-American as Friend and Bragg?

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 12:55 PM

9) Not quite but kind of.

seawolf17 Nov 04 2005 01:25 PM

Thanks to Valadius' hint, now let's get rid of the non-Yanks from Yancy's list: Yancy Street Gang wrote: 126 possibilities (pitchers with losing or .500 records who debuted in 1986 or later) Jason Anderson Tim Burke Paul Gibson Lee Guetterman Felix Heredia Graeme Lloyd Mike Stanton Frank Tanana Allen Watson Dave Weathers Lloyd's Australian, Heredia's Latin, so they're out. Stanton's out because he was guessed. Guetterman, Anderson, Burke, Watson, and Weathers haven't really been around long enough to be in any kind of HoF, which leaves Tanana and Gibson. Gibson's done a lot of coaching around LI, but I guess my guess is going to be Frank Tanana.

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 01:54 PM

Frank Tanana Inducted June 13, 1996 The California Angels' No. 1 pick in the 1971 baseball free agent draft out of Detroit Catholic Central High School, Tanana also had to decide from among more than 100 college basketball scholarships. He chose baseball, and the lefthander with a sizzling fastball hurled 21 years in the major leagues and finished with a 240-236 won-lost record and a 3.66 ERA. He notched 2,773 strikeouts to rank among the all-time leaders for left-handers. Tanana pitched for the Angels, Boston, Texas, Detroit, New York Mets and New York Yankees. In 1979, he fired a complete game 4-1 victory over Kansas City in the American League playoffs to give the Angels their first-ever post-season victory. Tanana pitched Detroit to a 1-0 win over Toronto on the last day of the 1987 season to clinch the AL East Division crown and complete an unbelievable seven-game year-end Tigers' sweep of the Blue Jays, each game decided by one run. View complete bio. Click on memorabilia for larger view.

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 02:03 PM

Congratulations on all you fans of the Slavs. Now, we move on the the Missouri Sports Hall of Fame, which seems to include sporstmen and women who hailed from Missouri, as well as those who performed there. Without peeking, please name the six enshrined Mets. (Hint: Only one of these six actually played for the team, while the others have been employed with the team otherwise.)

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2005 02:05 PM

Bob Gibson has to be one of them.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2005 02:06 PM

And how about Yogi Berra as the Mets player?

Valadius Nov 04 2005 02:07 PM

Joe Torre.

HahnSolo Nov 04 2005 02:12 PM

Tim McCarver and Whitey Herzog

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 02:29 PM

Four for five, so far. Gibson. Berra. McCarver. Herzog. Torre wrong. I also found another Met player in there, so there's three more.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2005 02:46 PM

Casey Stengel!

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 02:53 PM

Casey Stengel. Not exactly a solid entry in the Spelling Hall of Fame, however.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 04 2005 03:02 PM

Bing Devine. Was the other player Amos Otis?

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 03:16 PM

Two good guesses. Two incorrect guesses.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 04 2005 03:19 PM

David Cone will probably join the group at some point.

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 03:21 PM

A point that hasn't yet come to pass.

Valadius Nov 04 2005 05:02 PM

OOH! Should have thought of this earlier, seeing as I mentioned him in my Charley Smith song. Ken Boyer.

Edgy DC Nov 04 2005 09:08 PM

Ken Boyer is correct. He's in, but Clete and Cloyd have to pay to get in. ONe more feller.

Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 12:12 PM

Ok, sure, twenty questoins then.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2005 12:14 PM

Was he born in Missouri?

Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 12:19 PM

1) No, he was not born in the Show-Me State.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 07 2005 12:36 PM

2. Was he a Met and a Cardinal?

Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 12:38 PM

2) Yes, he Metted and Cardinaled, in a sense, anyhow.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2005 12:40 PM

Did he play for the Cardinals in at least one regular season game?

Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 12:42 PM

3) Yes, he displayed his Cardinal virtues as a player at least once.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 07 2005 12:43 PM

Did he play for the Mets in at least one regular season game?

Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 12:45 PM

Yancy, running with the ball. 4) No, his Metliness did not extend to a regular-season playing appearance.

Edgy DC Nov 08 2005 11:55 AM

At this rate, we'll never get to the San Antonio Sports Foundation Hall of Fame.

HahnSolo Nov 08 2005 12:41 PM

Was he a coach for the Metsies?

Edgy DC Nov 08 2005 12:57 PM

5) Yes, he coached for the Mets.

Willets Point Nov 08 2005 12:59 PM

Was he a pitching coach?

Edgy DC Nov 08 2005 01:04 PM

6) No, he was not a pitching coach.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 08 2005 01:09 PM

Is he Dal Maxvill?

Edgy DC Nov 08 2005 01:10 PM

7) No, he is not Dal.

Willets Point Nov 08 2005 01:32 PM

Is he Rogers Hornsby?

Valadius Nov 08 2005 01:39 PM

That has to be right.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 08 2005 01:50 PM

Of course.

Edgy DC Nov 08 2005 02:06 PM

The Rajah it is. Met in 1962. Dead in 1963. Good job. How 'bout that Alabama Sports Hall of Fame? Five Met figures, all five of whom played for them.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 08 2005 02:25 PM

Cleon Jones. Tommie Agee.

Edgy DC Nov 08 2005 02:30 PM

Jones, correct. Agee, unmistaken.

Johnny Dickshot Nov 08 2005 02:56 PM

Terry Leach

Edgy DC Nov 08 2005 02:57 PM

Not Leach.

HahnSolo Nov 08 2005 03:06 PM

Dave Magadan

Edgy DC Nov 08 2005 03:35 PM

Notadan.

Lundy Nov 08 2005 05:08 PM

Willie Mays must be here.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 08 2005 05:11 PM

How about George Foster and Amos Otis?

Edgy DC Nov 08 2005 07:16 PM

Mays and Foster are three and four. One more, and, surprisingly, Otis isn't it.

Edgy DC Nov 09 2005 08:37 AM

You are near. Keep exhibiting entries known in less llikely every region

Benjamin Grimm Nov 09 2005 08:41 AM

Edgy DC wrote: You are near. Keep exhibiting entries known in less llikely every region Huh??

Edgy DC Nov 09 2005 09:11 AM

Yup. Apparent nonsense. Not keeping eleoquent English. Killer. It looks like Edgy's retarded.

Willets Point Nov 09 2005 09:16 AM

Yankee Killer.

Edgy DC Nov 10 2005 10:18 AM

I'm removing this kwiz from life support.