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Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 02:50 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 07 2005 02:53 PM

Huston Street is AL Rookie of the Year, beating out Robinson Cano. Also placing: West Fourth Street, Great Jones Way, and Washington Square. Ryan Howard wins it for the National League. No Mets place. http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20051107&content_id=1265232&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb For a team with a disastrous record, the Rockies have to be happy about having three guys place.

Elster88 Nov 07 2005 02:50 PM

I'm kind of hoping Jacobs doesn't win it next year. That award can be the kiss of death.

Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 02:57 PM

I don't make much of that. I suspect a reason it seems like the kiss of death is often because teams on the fringes are more likely to give a non uber-phenom rookie a shot out of camp, so a lot more full-season rookie years are turned in by players with Pittsburgh and Cleveland than with richer teams. So that can lead to lesser prospects beating out David Wrights and Jeff Francouers. It's a purely speculative and not fully-formed theory.

metirish Nov 07 2005 02:59 PM

Great for Street, Tadahito Iguchi faired very well,Howard beating out the competition by a large number, especially Jeff Francoeur....Kazmir got a vote.....damn you to hell Duke.....

Elster88 Nov 07 2005 02:59 PM

Edgy DC wrote: It's a purely speculative and not fully-formed theory. Just like any other superstition.

Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 03:02 PM

It hardly characterizes itself as that.

ScarletKnight41 Nov 07 2005 03:06 PM

Yea for Huston Street - he was amazing this season.

Frayed Knot Nov 07 2005 03:14 PM

AL: 28 votes total - 5 pts 1st place, 3 pts 2nd place, 1 pt 3rd place Street: 15 - 6 - 4 = 97 pts total Cano: 4 - 10 - 7 = 57 Gomes (TB): 2 - 8 - 5 = 39 Iguchi: 5 - 1 - 2 = 30 Chacin (Tor): 2 - 0 - 4 = 14 Swisher (Oak): 0 - 2 - 0 Blanton (Oak): 0 - 1 - 3 Crain (Min): 0 - 0 - 2 Kazmir: 0 - 0 - 1 NL: 30 votes total Howard: 19 - 3 - 5 = 109 Tavarez (Hou): 7 - 11 - 10 = 78 Francoeur: 2 - 14 - 8 = 60 Atkins (Col): 1 - 2 - 6 = 17 Duke (Pit): 3 - 0 - 1 = 16 Francis (Col): 0 - 1 - 0 Weeks (Mil): 0 - 1 - 0 Barmes (Col): 0 - 0 - 1 Vargas (Fla): 0 - 0 - 1 5 different guys receiving 1st place votes is pretty unusual I'd bet, especially in both leagues in the same year. AL seems to have had a bunch of good choices though no great one. NL had a bunch of real good half-year guys: Barmes in the 1st half, Francoeur, Howard & Duke in the 2nd.

Elster88 Nov 07 2005 03:28 PM

Barmes: the forgotten man. I would've thought he was the easy winner back before the deer meat incident. When do we get MVPs?

Valadius Nov 07 2005 03:59 PM

Nov. 14th AL MVP Nov. 15th NL MVP

Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 04:06 PM

Of 18 guys, only three foreign born.

Elster88 Nov 07 2005 04:20 PM

Thanks Valaddy Daddy.

Frayed Knot Nov 07 2005 04:39 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 07 2005 04:43 PM

Edgy DC wrote: Of 18 guys, only three foreign born. Cano - DR Chacin - Venz Iguchi - Japan Taverez - DR

Edgy DC Nov 07 2005 04:41 PM

Missed the Venezuelan.

MFS62 Nov 08 2005 08:25 AM

Edgy, why do you think the number (or percentage) of Latin American players was important? Is this from the other thread where it was brought out that 9% of major leaguers are African-American? Or is it just an observation? On quick inspection, it seems that most of the songs parodied in our contests over the years were based on songs originally recorded by White Males. Do you think it make a difference in the way the CPF-ers voted when those songs were up against songs originally recorded by African-Americans or women? Later

Edgy DC Nov 08 2005 09:53 AM

]Edgy, why do you think the number (or percentage) of Latin American players was important? Is this from the other thread where it was brought out that 9% of major leaguers are African-American? Or is it just an observation? 1) It's not important. Just worthy of note in passing. Because much is publicized about the changing demographics of the league and it's stars. This is one unscientific way of observing which way the league is going demographically. ]On quick inspection, it seems that most of the songs parodied in our contests over the years were based on songs originally recorded by White Males. Do you think it make a difference in the way the CPF-ers voted when those songs were up against songs originally recorded by African-Americans or women? I won year one on the considerable high heels of Donna Summer, and the flat heels of Suzanne Vega and Patty Smith.

MFS62 Nov 08 2005 10:04 AM

Edgy DC wrote: 1) It's not important. Just worthy of note in passing. Because much is publicized about the changing demographics of the league and it's stars. This is one unscientific way of observing which way the league is going demographically. I won year one on the considerable high heels of Donna Summer, and the flat heels of Suzanne Vega and Patty Smith. 1) That's what I thought. The change in demographics is interesting, isn't it? 2) Nice imagery. Thanks, Later