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IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Gwreck Apr 19 2011 11:42 AM

Time to turn this into a protracted winning streak.

metirish Apr 19 2011 11:44 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

A team that are as bad if not worse than our beloveds?

G-Fafif Apr 19 2011 12:08 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Gwreck wrote: Time to turn this into a protracted winning streak.

G-Fafif Apr 19 2011 12:15 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 19 2011 02:13 PM

Reyes SS Thole C Wright 3B Beltran RF Davis 1B Pagan CF Hairston LF Turner 2B Niese P Word: Hairston with lifetime BA of .500+ vs. Wandy Rodriguez in lineup instead of Harris. Mets PR blamed for typo. Jay Horwitz to be offered back to Fairleigh Dickinson for $25K.

TransMonk Apr 19 2011 01:16 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

While waiting for a KTE, here are some tidbits from today's media guide: Houston and New York each have a 5-11 season record, however the Mets started off 4-4 and have gone 1-7 since while the 'Stros started off 1-7 but have split their last 8 games 4-4. Michael Bourne is 7 for 7 in Stolen Bases attmpts this season He has reached safely in 12 straight games and in 51 of his last 53 games dating back to last season. Carlos Lee leads the majors in outfield assists with 4. Astros pitchers are batting .286 in 2011, tops in the majors (the Mets are second at .200).

Ashie62 Apr 19 2011 03:23 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

The Astros suck...A team to beat up on.

Ceetar Apr 19 2011 04:59 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Bourn CF, Sanchez SS, Pence RF, Lee LF, Johnson 3B, Hall 2B, Wallace 1B, Towles C, Rodriguez P

TransMonk Apr 19 2011 05:51 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

FC E4 5U Don't see that too often.

Ceetar Apr 19 2011 05:52 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

TransMonk wrote: FC E4 5U Don't see that too often. definitely! is it 5u or 4-5? or as Ted Berg said, 4-6ish-5?

TransMonk Apr 19 2011 05:56 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Gary said it was 5u. It was a nice play by David no matter what.

TransMonk Apr 19 2011 06:09 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

The 1-6-3 DP is pretty nice too. C'mon O! Score some runs!

Edgy DC Apr 19 2011 06:28 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Pitching progressing. Hitting regressing.

TransMonk Apr 19 2011 06:30 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Niese has been better, but the infield (Turner excluded) has helped him out a few times. The walks. Ugh.

TransMonk Apr 19 2011 06:47 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Another nice defensive play to quash a jam. Thole!

Fman99 Apr 19 2011 06:55 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Anemic at the plate tonight.

Edgy DC Apr 19 2011 07:00 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

We need us some Bay.

TransMonk Apr 19 2011 07:06 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

KABOOM!! Carlos!

TransMonk Apr 19 2011 07:07 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

I think with Emaus gone, Hairston may want to start looking over his shoulder.

Edgy DC Apr 19 2011 07:14 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Rallllleeee!

Edgy DC Apr 19 2011 07:17 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Bu!

TransMonk Apr 19 2011 07:18 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Yeah, I'm not sure why we didn't see Muffy there.

Edgy DC Apr 19 2011 07:26 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

They would have gone to a lefty, but I'm saying, whatever chases the starter sooner rather than later is good. I hate to let an opposing starter go deep in game one of a series.

Fman99 Apr 19 2011 07:35 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Yeesh. Balk in a run before you throw a pitch. Embarrassing.

Edgy DC Apr 19 2011 07:38 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

A six-one lead looks to be a tough haul. Parnell is a perfect candidate to shuffle off Teufelo when Bay and/or Paulino join the team. So perfect that I might be angry if it's not him.

Edgy DC Apr 19 2011 07:46 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

OK, Thole. Let's hit.

TransMonk Apr 19 2011 07:50 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Horseshit call!!!

Fman99 Apr 19 2011 08:10 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Just in? Turn her!

TransMonk Apr 19 2011 08:12 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

At least that torture is over. Also, I'll be the one to say that Justin should get a haircut.

bmfc1 Apr 19 2011 08:14 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Terry's better PH, Murphy, and better RP, Isringhausen, didn't get in the game and the players that were used didn't come through. Sometimes you shouldn't save your "bullets" for later in the game.

Fman99 Apr 19 2011 08:20 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Depressing to look outmatched so badly by a team with an equally shitty record. The reality is as long as you've got bullpen pitchers shitting on the mound, and shaky defense, combined with a lack of hitting for power and/or average, well, you're going to be those guys.

Edgy DC Apr 19 2011 08:26 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

bmfc1 wrote: Terry's better PH, Murphy, and better RP, Isringhausen, didn't get in the game and the players that were used didn't come through. Sometimes you shouldn't save your "bullets" for later in the game. Well, I have no problem with Isringhauesen staying out. I'd've like to have seen Murphy. But I think he's trying to get Hu some opportunity to get going. I just like attacking the starting pitcher until he's walking to the dugout. It's a big part of winning to me.

Ceetar Apr 19 2011 09:09 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Edgy DC wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Terry's better PH, Murphy, and better RP, Isringhausen, didn't get in the game and the players that were used didn't come through. Sometimes you shouldn't save your "bullets" for later in the game. Well, I have no problem with Isringhauesen staying out. I'd've like to have seen Murphy. But I think he's trying to get Hu some opportunity to get going. I just like attacking the starting pitcher until he's walking to the dugout. It's a big part of winning to me. I agree with that. Was it because it was lefty-lefty? There are other opportunities to get Hu AB and playing time if need be. I don't know what suddenly happened to all the offense.

bmfc1 Apr 20 2011 03:05 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

The bases were loaded and with the Mets lack of hitting, the game was on the line. Parnell has not been good so this wasn't the opportunity to hope that he showed improvement. He gave up 3 runs and the game was over right there. Terry should have brought in Isringhausen.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 05:21 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

I agree that the game was on the line, to the extent that to get out of it would have meant that we go to the bottom of the eighth down two runs. One of Jerry's trademarks was using the "eighth-inning guy" in all close games, which meant at least any game down two to up three, and ninth inning ties of course --- situations which almost any decent team will find themselves in almost any game. And he absolutely ran those guys into the ground. I'd have liked to have seen Izzy too, but after two years of seeing the Neives of the world run out to the mound until they exploded, I'd be a hypocrite if I demanded Isringhausen. My guess, though, is that the team is trying to move in that direction, and we'll start seeing Izzy and Beato in game situations on alternate nights. And Terry will try and get some Sanchez/Heilman 06 mojo going. But he burned Beato early. Lord have mercy on me.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2011 06:21 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

I didn't have a problem with the relief choice, though did with the PH choice. Two-on/two-out/down-two in the 7th could be your last best chance to get some runs and opting for Hu there over Muffy wasn't the way to go IMO. That smells of either over-playing lefty/righty or because he wanted to save him for later on, a later on which turned out not to matter.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 06:50 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: I didn't have a problem with the relief choice, though did with the PH choice. Two-on/two-out/down-two in the 7th could be your last best chance to get some runs and opting for Hu there over Muffy wasn't the way to go IMO. That smells of either over-playing lefty/righty or because he wanted to save him for later on, a later on which turned out not to matter. I just had this thought, what if not PHing Murphy there was a sort of punishment for the baserunning blunders? there was enough lefty/righty/getHuAB stuff to justify it I suppose, even if I don't agree.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 06:53 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

I guess that was where I am. I don't agree with it, but I'm not ready to kill Collins for it. Same time, that's got to be dis-spiriting for a team --- finally getting something going and sending a guy batting .100 up there, with no track record of major league success, to try and finish the job. Such are the choices of a guy with 13 pitchers on his roster (four bench players, the backup catcher and backup shortstop haven't shown any ability to hit, and the other two are lefties), but still. If I'm a manager, I open every post-game interview with discussion on where I made a bad move, didn't put my team in the best position to win, and thus take as much heat off of them as possible. "This is what I was thinking, but in retrospect, it didn't work out and perhaps I could have done this instead." Anyhow, that AB would be where I'd start.

TransMonk Apr 20 2011 06:55 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

The Mets now have the worst record in baseball. From what I've seen so far, I think the record fits the team.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 07:02 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

TransMonk wrote: The Mets now have the worst record in baseball. From what I've seen so far, I think the record fits the team. I think they're unlikely to win 48 games or be the worst team in baseball.

TransMonk Apr 20 2011 07:04 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

TransMonk wrote: The Mets now have the worst record in baseball. From what I've seen so far, I think the record fits the team.

soupcan Apr 20 2011 08:07 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Was there last night. I highly doubt that the announced attendance of 27,000 was anything close to the amount of people that were there. The entire triangle-shaped right centerfield section was empty. No lines for any concession stand. The people that were there were surprisingly vocal though, doing the 'ooooh' and 'aaaah' thing for every routine flyball off the bat. This season is not going to suck anymore, it is well in the midst of complete and utter suckitude.

Gwreck Apr 20 2011 08:11 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

FYI: Mets announced that your tickets from last night can be exchanged for a free game against the Pirates, May 30-June 2.

metirish Apr 20 2011 08:19 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

soupcan wrote: Was there last night. I highly doubt that the announced attendance of 27,000 was anything close to the amount of people that were there. The entire triangle-shaped right centerfield section was empty. No lines for any concession stand. The people that were there were surprisingly vocal though, doing the 'ooooh' and 'aaaah' thing for every routine flyball off the bat. This season is not going to suck anymore, it is well in the midst of complete and utter suckitude. judging for the TV it looked utterly miserable there.....no concession lines is a good thing but you'd rather have long lines and a good team.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 08:25 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

I'll be there tonight myself. Gonna whip them into shape. They've looked worse the last couple of days, but maybe teams just look worse when they're not hitting versus not pitching.

soupcan Apr 20 2011 08:29 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

metirish wrote: judging for the TV it looked utterly miserable there.....no concession lines is a good thing but you'd rather have long lines and a good team. Most definitely.

soupcan Apr 20 2011 08:31 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Ceetar wrote: I'll be there tonight myself. Gonna whip them into shape. They've looked worse the last couple of days, but maybe teams just look worse when they're not hitting versus not pitching. I know you pride yourself on being 'optimistic', but dude they are bad all around and they are not getting better anytime soon.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2011 08:41 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

I agree that the "optimism" shtick is more than played out, but do I suspect that the Mets are a better team than we've seen. But they've been so bad that even hoping for mediocrity at this point seems far fetched. Maybe at best, they'll win 75 games, and that's not nearly enough. Citi Field is going to be very quiet and empty after Labor Day, and probably not very noisy at all throughout the season.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 08:44 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

So, it's far-fetched. It's free.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2011 08:47 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

True. I'll keep watching. But there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that things are looking dire.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 09:00 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

soupcan wrote: Ceetar wrote: I'll be there tonight myself. Gonna whip them into shape. They've looked worse the last couple of days, but maybe teams just look worse when they're not hitting versus not pitching. I know you pride yourself on being 'optimistic', but dude they are bad all around and they are not getting better anytime soon. well, they're going to get _better_..that's almost inevitable. Just shear luck will do that, but so will adding Jason Bay. I just meant that there were some games against the Nationals and the Rockies where they seemed to be leading and playing better for 7 or 8 of the innings and just blew it. The last 4-5 games though they've mostly been bad all around, all game, with small exceptions. Even Sunday they only scored 3 runs and barely hung on.

soupcan Apr 20 2011 09:05 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Yeah sure it's free and it doesn't hurt anyone. Ceetar reminds me of me as a Mets fan circa 1979-80. I would look at the fact that Mark Bomback had won 22 games in AAA and thought 'HA! Just wait till HE shows 'em what he can do..!' And I can appreciate what you say Ceetar, but being 'in it' doesn't count. They're bad, they're losing. Whether it be 5-4 or 6-1. A loss is a loss is a loss. I don't mean to deride, I'm just frustrated and I want everyone else to be pissed off too.

TransMonk Apr 20 2011 09:13 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Sounds like Muffy may be in Terry's doghouse. I hope that didn't influence Collin's decision making on whether or not to use him in the PH spot.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 09:16 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

soupcan wrote: Yeah sure it's free and it doesn't hurt anyone. Ceetar reminds me of me as a Mets fan circa 1979-80. I would look at the fact that Mark Bomback had won 22 games in AAA and thought 'HA! Just wait till HE shows 'em what he can do..!' And I can appreciate what you say Ceetar, but being 'in it' doesn't count. They're bad, they're losing. Whether it be 5-4 or 6-1. A loss is a loss is a loss. I don't mean to deride, I'm just frustrated and I want everyone else to be pissed off too. I'm not saying I'm not frustrated and pissed off. But I don't want to be. And I get annoyed when people tell me Blah blah it'll never get better. I can watch baseball that's meaningless anywhere, so if I'm not going to root for the Mets to succeed, at whatever odds, to me it's just not worth the effort. It may be a long shot for Niese to step up and strike out 200, but I'm rooting for the long shot. Worse is people telling me that I shouldn't get upset when the Mets lose because they suck. That's irrelevant. "Miracles" happen all the time in sports, and imo, rooting for one is almost what being a fanatical fan is about. Everyone is getting on the Mets and killing them. So why can't I look for the silver lining and think about why it could happen that way? I understand they suck, and are sucking, and look like they want to suck forever. But I'd rather root for the signs of hope rather than proclaiming Pagan will bat .180 or David Wright will strike out more than Niese. (Actually, I think that would bea decent "Who has more" question)

seawolf17 Apr 20 2011 09:20 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Gwreck wrote: FYI: Mets announced that your tickets from last night can be exchanged for a free game against the Pirates, May 30-June 2. In case you think losing to the Astros isn't enough and you'd like to see them lose to another awful team too.

Gwreck Apr 20 2011 09:21 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

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TransMonk Apr 20 2011 09:22 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

I hear ya, Cee. I am enjoying watching the development of Ike and Thole. They both seem like that even if they are not world beaters, they could both end up being good Mets for a long while. Even if nothing else is going right, I like seeing the kids play. True, Klap sucks, but it sounds like the story of Collins blowing up at Murph could be true.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 09:28 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

TransMonk wrote: I hear ya, Cee. I am enjoying watching the development of Ike and Thole. They both seem like that even if they are not world beaters, they could both end up being good Mets for a long while. Even if nothing else is going right, I like seeing the kids play. True, Klap sucks, but it sounds like the story of Collins blowing up at Murph could be true. well, we wanted accountability right? I like seeing Ike develop too, and Niese too, who battled last night despite not being that good. Could we perhaps stop walking people? maybe? please? However, the stories, which I think may be last years and have the statistics updated and Collins name in for Manuel's about maybe it's time for Meija are a little annoying. As are the Daily OMG TRADE REYES NOW ones.

The Second Spitter Apr 20 2011 09:44 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

TransMonk wrote: Sounds like Muffy may be in Terry's doghouse. I hope that didn't influence Collin's decision making on whether or not to use him in the PH spot. Christ, the Klap's like Johnny-on-the-spot when it comes to shitting on the Mets. I'm surprised he resisted the urge to throw in a reference to TWTMCB. That said, TWTMCB were infinitely more interesting to watch than this mob.....

metirish Apr 20 2011 09:54 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Good that he chewed Murphy out , he deserved it.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 10:01 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

TransMonk wrote: II am enjoying watching the development of Ike and Thole. They both seem like that even if they are not world beaters, they could both end up being good Mets for a long while. Even if nothing else is going right, I like seeing the kids play. How about that Thole, though? Breaking in a young catcher is hard, and doing it without a veteran catcher who knows the league sharing the load seems to be hurting Thole. None of his starters are making their pitches and he's not doing bupkis to stop the running game. Flushing needs Paulino as much as Bay, I fear.

soupcan Apr 20 2011 10:11 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Edgy DC wrote: How about that Thole, though? Breaking in a young catcher is hard, and doing it without a veteran catcher who knows the league sharing the load seems to be hurting Thole. None of his starters are making their pitches and he's not doing bupkis to stop the running game. Flushing needs Paulino as much as Bay, I fear. Hadn't thought about that lack of a veteran catcher thing. That's a good point.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 10:12 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

PREDICTION: The Mets will eventually go on a torrid, torrid streak that coincides with Paulino's return to the team, and he will receive an inordinate amount of credit for both tangible and ineffable (handling the pitching staff, holding runners, etc.) contributions.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 10:23 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

If they can go on a rip, I don't care if the papers want to credit Wayne Hagin.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2011 10:40 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

TransMonk wrote: True, Klap sucks, but it sounds like the story of Collins blowing up at Murph could be true. I'm sure it is true (cuz if he's faking that level of quotable knowledge he better turn in his journalistic creds) but -- a) it's deserved and I'm fine with it and b) it's not the same thing as assuming Collins is holding something over Murphy and would use it against him in PH spots. A manager who does that it hurting himself at least as much as the player. Terry has pretty much said 2B is a straight platoon situation so you assume Muffy is going to get about 2/3 of the starts at least for the time being. I write the PH last night off to a R/L move - something I wish he hadn't done but at the same time aren't going to attribute to even a temporary personal vendetta.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 10:44 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

It's great that he's got a kernel of a scoop there, but there's still about nine things wrong with that article.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 10:57 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

So, it's a better-than-average Klap piece, is what you're saying.

G-Fafif Apr 20 2011 11:42 AM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

“What the [bleep] are you doing?” Collins shouted, according to a person who’d been made aware of the exchange. “Mike [Nickeas] was up, [Mike] Pelf[rey] was on deck; I was trying to get something started,” Murphy responded. “So now you’re the manager? I was going to pinch-hit [for Pelfrey],” Collins shot back. “I’m the manager, not you. Get your head out of your [bleep].” In the time it took for Collins to air out his player, no more than 15 seconds, Collins had whisked away the last of Jerry Manuel’s legacy. He demonstrated, loudly, an interest in winning and losing that never stirred in Manuel’s bones. Collins arrived in Flushing promising to care, and for the most part, he’s kept his word. But that’s not to say Collins’ in-your-airspace style can reverse the Mets’ accelerating slide into the cesspool. It’s already a dreadful season at Citi Field, with or without an emotional manager. The Mets have too little talent to make a dent in the East, too little money to rebuild quickly, and apparently, too few fans to fuel the organization’s engine (and coffers). The stands were mostly empty in Tuesday’s 6-1 loss to the Astros, a battle between two of the National League’s worst teams that mercifully was over in under three hours. 1) Love the chew out. Great vicarious theater for those of watching from the comfort of our couches and depths of our despair. 2) WTF does Klapisch know about Jerry Manuel's bones? Do we know Jerry never tried to instill fundamentals in Murphy's head? Perhaps the kid is just errantly enthusiastic by nature (a.k.a. kinda thick). 3) Time of game was 2:59. One minute longer expunges all mercy? Oh, and cesspool? Is there a kiddie porn ring being run out of Charlie Samuels' old office or something?

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 12:09 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Frayed Knot wrote: TransMonk wrote: True, Klap sucks, but it sounds like the story of Collins blowing up at Murph could be true. I'm sure it is true (cuz if he's faking that level of quotable knowledge he better turn in his journalistic creds) Well, It was according a person made aware of the exchange. Which makes it...third hand to Klap? The person that heard it, the person he made aware, and then Klap. Not that I'm doubting it, but that far removed from actually hearing it himself I wonder if he should even use quotes?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2011 12:13 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Which reminds me... I'm getting awfully tired of Kevin Burkhardt paraphrasing in the first person. Last night he did it again, talking about Scott Hairston and his comments about bats made of ash, maple, and birch. A few times during that segment, Kevin would switch between perspectives; "I" would go from meaning, "I, Scott Hairston" to "I, Kevin Burkhardt" and back again.

TransMonk Apr 20 2011 12:17 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Which reminds me... I'm getting awfully tired of Kevin Burkhardt paraphrasing in the first person. Last night he did it again, talking about Scott Hairston and his comments about bats made of ash, maple, and birch. A few times during that segment, Kevin would switch between perspectives; "I" would go from meaning, "I, Scott Hairston" to "I, Kevin Burkhardt" and back again. Agreed.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 12:23 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Ceetar wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: TransMonk wrote: True, Klap sucks, but it sounds like the story of Collins blowing up at Murph could be true. I'm sure it is true (cuz if he's faking that level of quotable knowledge he better turn in his journalistic creds) Well, It was according a person made aware of the exchange. Which makes it...third hand to Klap? The person that heard it, the person he made aware, and then Klap. Not that I'm doubting it, but that far removed from actually hearing it himself I wonder if he should even use quotes? Yeah, that and the three things listed above you by G-Fafif are about four of the nine things I was speaking of. You don't think he could have asked about two dozen folks for a corroborating statement? Murphy himself, maybe? He might have had a heckuva story, even if they all stonewalled.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 12:35 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

He could've thrown some "blah blah blahs" in there at least. amateur.

G-Fafif Apr 20 2011 12:51 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

TransMonk wrote: Which reminds me... I'm getting awfully tired of Kevin Burkhardt paraphrasing in the first person. Last night he did it again, talking about Scott Hairston and his comments about bats made of ash, maple, and birch. A few times during that segment, Kevin would switch between perspectives; "I" would go from meaning, "I, Scott Hairston" to "I, Kevin Burkhardt" and back again. Agreed. Every story Guys Burkhardt tells of that nature reminds me of Felix Unger's inspiring radio tales of heroism, albeit at a less breathtaking pace. And guys, when Hairston put down his bat, you know what he found? Penicillin: the Big P. Guys?

bmfc1 Apr 20 2011 12:56 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

I'm sick of Guys. They used to go to him 2 or 3 times a game but now they're up to 4 or 5 as they try to distract us from thinking about how badly the Mets are playing. And something always happens when he's talking. Save him for rain delays, pre and post-game, etc. but enough w/Guys already.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 01:00 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Just wait-- if this continues into the summer, two or three of those will become florid, weird Keith rants.

soupcan Apr 20 2011 01:24 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Just wait-- if this continues into the summer, two or three of those will become florid, weird Keith rants. IF this contines into summer...?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 01:29 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

soupcan wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Just wait-- if this continues into the summer, two or three of those will become florid, weird Keith rants. IF this contines into summer...? Call me The Marginally-Optimistic Mets Fan.

metirish Apr 20 2011 01:49 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

You know what's hilarious too?, during this miserable time for the org last nights game featured several segments of some of the best nights this org has had.....Astros/Mets 86.......yes please distract us from the current team.

TransMonk Apr 20 2011 02:26 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Keith and Ron both said the '86 NL Championship Series was the best games they were involved in during their careers, which I assume trumps the '86 World Series.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 02:33 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Well, Game Six, for all it's drama, turned on errors. That Houston series had stuff like that back door play by Santana. Gorgeous.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2011 02:36 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

The tension was a lot higher in the NLCS, which made the games all the more memorable. I liked how, last night, Bob Ojeda came out and said what I don't think was ever acknowledged before, when he said to Keith, "You guys (meaning the hitters on the Mets) were afraid of* Mike Scott." *or did he say "worried about"? Either way, Scott had worked his way into their brains. We all knew it, even then, but I don't think it's ever been stated so flatly by a member of the team before.

G-Fafif Apr 20 2011 03:16 PM Re: IGT 4/19/11 - Astros at Mets

Gonna dance right out onto the edge of time That's Jackson Browne, from "Disco Apocalypse". That's how Game Six of the '86 NLCS felt. The only other time I felt it was Game Six of the '99 NLCS as the Mets kept coming back. So we're 1-1 on the edge of time.