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IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 12:19 PM

They lost the first game in '86/NLCS too. Reyes-SS, Thole-C, Wright-3B, Beltran-RF, Davis-1B, Pagan-CF, Harris-LF, Murphy-2B, Dickey-RHP I'll be in attendence tonight. Presumably there will be others, but I'm not positive on that.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 12:25 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

The others may not actually be there, but you can bet your bippy they'll be announced as if they were.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 12:28 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: The others may not actually be there, but you can bet your bippy they'll be announced as if they were. They do this across baseball. But only the teams care about the 'sold' over the 'in attendance'. Why can't they give us both?

Gwreck Apr 20 2011 12:31 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Actual turnstile attendance is considered by MLB as something they don't want the public or media to have, particularly to contrast with paid attendance figures. I'm quite sure the Mets do have that information available to themselves at least.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2011 12:37 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Yeah. Publishing "No-show" statistics could be very embarrassing at time.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2011 12:39 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Years ago they separated the "Paid" and "actual" attendance because it mattered as to how the money was divided. And to further complicate things the AL figured their split with the visiting team based on tickets sold vs the NL which did so on bodies in attendance. The merging of the leagues under the Bud era standardized the two under the 'Paid' umbrella at which point the total number of warm bodies seemed to go out the window.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 12:42 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Yeah. Publishing "No-show" statistics could be very embarrassing at time. Because we all really think Citi Field had 27k last night and that it wasn't embarrassing? And fans aren't taking pictures of all the emptiness and posting it to Twitter and blogs? It's silly. I understand MLBs all about the secrecy and the don't embed our clips or dare to show them elsewhere OMG! but they're not fooling anyone. Ahh. good info Frayed Knot. I wonder if it's something that didn't exist to the extent it does today? Now everyone's a scalper, so lots more tickets go unsold. Also the value of said ticket has made it more of a commodity.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2011 12:45 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

I think a larger pct of tickets now-a-days are sold via season tickets or partial season packages which could contribute to a gap between sold and used.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 12:47 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Wait. I'm not a scalper. Are all you people scalpers? Ick.

Gwreck Apr 20 2011 12:48 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: Because we all really think Citi Field had 27k last night and that it wasn't embarrassing? And fans aren't taking pictures of all the emptiness and posting it to Twitter and blogs? It's silly. I understand MLBs all about the secrecy and the don't embed our clips or dare to show them elsewhere OMG! but they're not fooling anyone. There's still a difference between widespread knowledge that "paid attendance does not equal actual attendance" and publishing cold, hard statistics that prove it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 12:50 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Edgy DC wrote: Wait. I'm not a scalper. Are all you people scalpers? Ick. Truth? YoungerPooper is, in actuality, a remarkably lifelike ticket-forging machine/bootlegging camera*. *Diversification is everything in an unsteady market.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 12:54 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Edgy DC wrote: Wait. I'm not a scalper. Are all you people scalpers? Ick. my ticket is fresh from Stubhub. paid $15. It's worth 96*/120/144/168 *I think today's value anyway. I haven't actually sold a ticket in a while since I haven't really bought in bulk though.

Ashie62 Apr 20 2011 01:07 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

There were empty sections of lower tiered seats last night that looked like a marching band had just exited to take the field.

themetfairy Apr 20 2011 01:16 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Wait. I'm not a scalper. Are all you people scalpers? Ick. Truth? YoungerPooper is, in actuality, a remarkably lifelike ticket-forging machine/bootlegging camera*. *Diversification is everything in an unsteady market. And an effective one - I'd buy anything from that robot girl!

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 02:05 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Bourn cf Sanchez ss Pence rf Lee lf Wallace 1b Hohnson 3b Hal 2b Towles c Norris p

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 02:10 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Biggest game ever.

Ashie62 Apr 20 2011 03:47 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Edgy DC wrote: Biggest game ever. Since yesterday.

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2011 03:49 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Ashie62 wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Biggest game ever. Since yesterday. And until tomorrow.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 05:31 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Let's have some Ikeversary Fireworks.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 05:37 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

First you fly out deep, then you whiff, guys. Get it right.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 05:38 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

FUCKing Mo Zone.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 05:43 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Dickey be getting some shitty calls. Meanwhile, Bud Norris is his own run support.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 05:44 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

So, then. It's to be one of these games.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 05:52 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Hall went in hard. There's Howard Johnson and Lenny Dykstra over there. Sheesh, folks, get a real idol.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 05:52 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Jesus, that Bill Hall collision with the wall looked violent.

G-Fafif Apr 20 2011 05:55 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Mex meandering into thought on the New York nightlife.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 05:56 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

This is one frusterated team.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 06:00 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

G-Fafif wrote: Mex meandering into thought on the New York nightlife. Fun listening to Gary talk cinema with the jocks. "You know that movie After Hours with Griffin Dunne?" "Nope." Ask him how many times he's seen Porky's, Gary.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 06:11 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

See, I'd much rather have that than extra helpings of Guys!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 06:16 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Hey, whaddaya know? OH-fense.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 06:16 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

There we go. Brilliant opposite field hitting.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 06:29 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Bat-around, coming this inning.

G-Fafif Apr 20 2011 06:32 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

"I prefer a burger to a hot dog, Gar', at the ballgame, to be honest with you." --Keith Hernandez, after spending an inning plugging Keith's Grill I'm glad he was honest about it. Most people prevaricate when pushed to choose a meat.

G-Fafif Apr 20 2011 06:34 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Edgy DC wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Mex meandering into thought on the New York nightlife. Fun listening to Gary talk cinema with the jocks. "You know that movie After Hours with Griffin Dunne?" "Nope." Ask him how many times he's seen Porky's, Gary. 1987 highlight VHS was "At the Ballpark," in which Hernandez and Cashen made like Siskel & Ebert and gave thumbs up and down to each month of the Met season. Mex presumably asked between takes, "What the fuck are we doing again?"

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 06:44 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Quit chasing, Thole.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 06:46 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Wright: 0-18

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 07:00 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

God, it's sweet to see that apple.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 07:01 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

I DIDN'T KNOW WE COULD DO THAT WITH GUYS ON BASE!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 07:08 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

"Now, that's a real shame when people's throwing away a perfectly good JoseJoseJoseJose like that."

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 07:13 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

We're a bunch of double-playing fools tonight. That was actually a triple-play ball.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 07:16 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Melancon and the Infinite Sadness. Let's drive this ex-Yankee from the game quickly.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 07:17 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

That's a start. Good looking, Wright. Now finish him, SuperLos.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 07:18 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

mlb.tv Wright is wearing Nikes. Gameday Wright is wearing Reeboks.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 07:21 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Fart.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 07:24 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Lonely thread. Is this the first Met starter to pitch into the eighth (as Hunter Pence makes that look like a bad idea)?

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 07:33 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Nobuntzpleazenobuntz!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 07:34 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

It might not be a bad idea for Pagan to ALWAYS take something like that approach-- spoil until you walk-- against lefties.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 07:37 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

And for Jerry not to bunt.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 07:37 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Shmit and shun shmingle!

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 07:40 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

So, who do you go with against Valdez? Hu for the contact to get the run home and the wheels to stay out of the DP? Hairston for the overall batsmanship? Or Turner for the happy medium?

Ashie62 Apr 20 2011 07:43 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

FUCKSHIT

metirish Apr 20 2011 07:44 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

for fucks sake

bmfc1 Apr 20 2011 07:44 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Even Murphy knows that was bad base running.

Ashie62 Apr 20 2011 07:45 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Terry's ass just puckered up.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 07:46 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Crazy. The tag missed Pagan's foot, but Pagan's foot missed the plate, and the play wasn't decided until the tag came down on his trailing foot. Such messiness.

Ashie62 Apr 20 2011 07:53 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Jose, Jose..

Nymr83 Apr 20 2011 07:58 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Ashie62 wrote: Jose, Jose.. yeah!

Nymr83 Apr 20 2011 07:59 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

FUCK DAMN SHIT

Ashie62 Apr 20 2011 07:59 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE

metirish Apr 20 2011 07:59 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

oh my fucking God ...what is this shit?

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 07:59 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

I think we should just open up a bunting museum.

Nymr83 Apr 20 2011 08:00 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

metirish wrote: oh my fucking God ...what is this shit? Mets Baseball

Nymr83 Apr 20 2011 08:01 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

can this team find any more ways to make outs? at least the season will be over in time to trade Beltran and possibly others for value

Ashie62 Apr 20 2011 08:03 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

5-13...A funny thing happened on Wright's quest to a nine figure contract..

metirish Apr 20 2011 08:07 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

"something new every night with this team and mistakes, my God" keith Hernandez this is how I remember the dead days of the Howe era.

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 08:13 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Smells of Jerry to me. Could the Mets really have hired three straight managers willing to die by the bunt? You tear yourself apart at night. "Execution, execution! I've got to get these guys to execute!" It never occurs to you that shouln't be calling the play in the first place.

metirish Apr 20 2011 08:19 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

I mean it sucks on so many levels bunting but Jesus you have Thole up there and I trust him to work the count and get a hit even , on this team I want Thole or Murphy up there with a bat looking for a hit......

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2011 08:35 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Just finished watching via tape-delay and I have one thing to say ... BIFFLE!!!! This shit would almost be comical if it wasn't so sorry. You almost have to try to get - what was it, 12? - hits with three of them being doubles plus a HR, plus a couple of walks, plus two SBs and still only manage to score three runs.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 20 2011 08:45 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

In a way, it's kind of amazing, and a morbid reason to watch-- how can the Mets defy the run-scoring odds tonight? A fly out in the first, not bunting in the ninth, bunting successfully earlier... hell, even a good slide from Pagan in the eighth, and at least one run scores. In a way... this final score is a sort of turd-shaped miracle. In another, more visceral way, it's just a turd.

bmfc1 Apr 20 2011 09:08 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

metirish wrote: I mean it sucks on so many levels bunting but Jesus you have Thole up there and I trust him to work the count and get a hit even , on this team I want Thole or Murphy up there with a bat looking for a hit...... If a slow guy was at first, I still wouldn't agree but I would understand more. You have one of the best basestealers in the game at 1st and a batter that can slap the ball so hit and run or steal but don't give up one of your 3 precious outs. And why did Turner bat in the 8th instead of Hairston?

Edgy DC Apr 20 2011 09:13 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

I assume they went for the greater likelihood of a run-scoring contact out.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 09:30 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

The astros dressed up the win on a silver platter, and the Mets smacked it onto the floor like a petulant child. At least I got some fun pictures?

Gwreck Apr 20 2011 09:35 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Let's count down the unfuckingbelievable moments from the game tonight: 5. Ike Davis strikes out with the bases loaded and 1 out in the first. 4. On a walk/WP in the top of the 2nd, Josh Thole retrieves the ball from the backstop and flips UNDERHAND to Dickey covering at the plate. Had he properly thrown it overhand, they would have had a play. 3. RA Dickey not being able to get a bunt down properly. 2. Angel Pagan bad-baserunning like it's 2008-9 again. 1a. Josh Thole bunting on the FIRST PITCH instead of giving Jose a chance to steal; and 1b. Josh Thole, unable to bunt properly. This should have been an enjoyable game. I can deal with losses fine but losses where we do incredibly stupid shit are intolerable.

Ceetar Apr 20 2011 09:42 PM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Gwreck wrote: Let's count down the unfuckingbelievable moments from the game tonight: 5. Ike Davis strikes out with the bases loaded and 1 out in the first. 4. On a walk/WP in the top of the 2nd, Josh Thole retrieves the ball from the backstop and flips UNDERHAND to Dickey covering at the plate. Had he properly thrown it overhand, they would have had a play. 3. RA Dickey not being able to get a bunt down properly. 2. Angel Pagan bad-baserunning like it's 2008-9 again. 1a. Josh Thole bunting on the FIRST PITCH instead of giving Jose a chance to steal; and 1b. Josh Thole, unable to bunt properly. This should have been an enjoyable game. I can deal with losses fine but losses where we do incredibly stupid shit are intolerable. They tried to force things, I'm not sure Pagan's attempted advance was _that_ horrible, and had it been the only blunder of the day maybe you live with it. I'd just finished thinking it was really heads up of him for him to dash home on the preceding pitch when the ball got away on the foul tip, in case it wasn't actually a foul tip.' Other than the bunt stupidity, i'm unsure if I should be annoyed at Reyes. He's supposed to be well off the bag and ready to dash to second, with or without Thole bunting. It was a pretty damn quick bunt out and i'm not sure Reyes even had time to read that it was in the air and hesitate and get back. I obviously didn't see any replays though.

Fman99 Apr 21 2011 04:27 AM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

This game hurt me in my brain/heart/cock/anus.

Frayed Knot Apr 21 2011 07:12 AM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Other than the bunt stupidity, i'm unsure if I should be annoyed at Reyes. He's supposed to be well off the bag and ready to dash to second, with or without Thole bunting. It was a pretty damn quick bunt out and i'm not sure Reyes even had time to read that it was in the air and hesitate and get back. I obviously didn't see any replays though. The problem wasn't that Reyes was too far off the base, it was that, in seeing the 1B & P in front of him for the bunt, he never considered that the 2Bman might be sneaking in behind him and therefore didn't show any urgency to get back until he saw a throw coming his way at which point it was too late.

TransMonk Apr 21 2011 07:37 AM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

After reading the descriptions of the game in this IGT, I'm glad I missed this tilt.

Ceetar Apr 21 2011 07:39 AM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

TransMonk wrote: After reading the descriptions of the game in this IGT, I'm glad I missed this tilt. Honestly the game itself wasn't that bad as a single entity, it was as a subset of a whole miserable season so far that made it hurt.

soupcan Apr 21 2011 08:08 AM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

I'm starting to think if Ceeter was a Jew in Auschwitz he'd have found a bright side.

Ceetar Apr 21 2011 08:10 AM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

soupcan wrote: I'm starting to think if Ceeter was a Jew in Auschwitz he'd have found a bright side. I was going to make a joke here, but I think I'll just leave that one alone..especially on Passover. Doubly so since I'm not jewish and actually part German.

Ceetar Apr 21 2011 08:21 AM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Mets scrabble.

Ceetar Apr 21 2011 09:21 AM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

I"m just gonna post random pictures from yesterday, just because.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 21 2011 09:56 AM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

Ceetar wrote: soupcan wrote: I'm starting to think if Ceeter was a Jew in Auschwitz he'd have found a bright side. I was going to make a joke here, but I think I'll just leave that one alone..especially on Passover. Doubly so since I'm not jewish and actually part German. German-Italian, no less, right? Were you raised by a Japanese au pair?

Ceetar Apr 21 2011 10:01 AM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Ceetar wrote: soupcan wrote: I'm starting to think if Ceeter was a Jew in Auschwitz he'd have found a bright side. I was going to make a joke here, but I think I'll just leave that one alone..especially on Passover. Doubly so since I'm not jewish and actually part German. German-Italian, no less, right? Were you raised by a Japanese au pair? wee bit scottish too.

Ceetar Apr 21 2011 11:18 AM Re: IGT 4/20/11 Astros @ Mets

This is (presumably) an SNY camera man...wearing a fox hat ,an nfl shirt and watching the Ranger game while he works.