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Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2011 06:02 AM

Ryan Vogelsong and his wife Nicole oppose RA Dickey and his wifey Anne. Nicole, like RA, is a native Nashvillian. Hmmm.

Fman99 May 03 2011 10:50 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Thanks to Mrs. Dickey there R.A. bulge in my trousers.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 03 2011 10:54 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

It seems Vogelsong likes a lady who can open a jar.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2011 10:55 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

She was a bartender at a joint where Vogelsong drank as a minor leaguer.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 03 2011 10:58 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

He must have had a LOT the day he proposed. /Two snaps up, in a bitchy little circle

TransMonk May 03 2011 10:59 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Zing!

Ceetar May 03 2011 12:50 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

oooh, we've got a roster move. Bay on paternity leave. Duda will play against the Giants.

Ashie62 May 03 2011 01:15 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: It seems Vogelsong likes a lady who can open a jar. That would be man hands?

Ashie62 May 03 2011 01:16 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ceetar wrote: oooh, we've got a roster move. Bay on paternity leave. Duda will play against the Giants. So thats what Bay was doing with his time off.

Edgy DC May 03 2011 01:19 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Totally should have called up Fartinez. Totally.

Ceetar May 03 2011 01:23 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ashie62 wrote: Ceetar wrote: oooh, we've got a roster move. Bay on paternity leave. Duda will play against the Giants. So thats what Bay was doing with his time off. Heh..well, yeah, this probably was within weeks of him going on the DL.

TransMonk May 03 2011 01:32 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Reyes SS Murphy 2B Wright 3B Beltran RF Davis 1B Duda LF Thole C Pridie CF Dickey RHP

Ashie62 May 03 2011 01:56 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: He must have had a LOT the day he proposed. /Two snaps up, in a bitchy little circle Dickey's wife must have been loaded when he proposed, what a troll.

metirish May 03 2011 03:09 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Per Twitter The Mets will wear special stars and stripes hats tonight. Is it military night or is this a celebration of Bin Laden's killing? I know the Mets are giving out free fix to military people but I don't recall any specific reason.

TransMonk May 03 2011 04:00 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Gints: Rowand CF Tejada 3B Fontenot SS Posey C Huff 1B Schierholtz RF Ross LF Burriss 2B Vogelsong P

themetfairy May 03 2011 04:36 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ashie62 wrote: Dickey's wife must have been loaded when he proposed, what a troll. Not nice! (plus I think she looks cute there)

Ashie62 May 03 2011 04:55 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

themetfairy wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Dickey's wife must have been loaded when he proposed, what a troll. Not nice! (plus I think she looks cute there) I meant him...mountain man

Ashie62 May 03 2011 04:56 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

metirish wrote: Per Twitter The Mets will wear special stars and stripes hats tonight. Is it military night or is this a celebration of Bin Laden's killing? I know the Mets are giving out free fix to military people but I don't recall any specific reason. I really, really hope they don't.

themetfairy May 03 2011 04:58 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ashie62 wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Dickey's wife must have been loaded when he proposed, what a troll. Not nice! (plus I think she looks cute there) I meant him...mountain man Ah - gotcha But I bet the man knows how to sweet talk!

Ashie62 May 03 2011 05:14 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Yes, he is a "philosopher" lol

themetfairy May 03 2011 05:48 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

So hey - after a nice dinner on the porch with D-Dad, I see that the Mets are up 3-0 on a Beltran Kaboom. Sweet!!!

themetfairy May 03 2011 05:58 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

And now that I'm watching Dickey starts sucking. 3-2 Mets, Giant on second, nobody out....

Edgy DC May 03 2011 05:58 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Those hats look pretty trollish.

themetfairy May 03 2011 06:00 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Fontenot's 2-RBI single gives the Giants a 4-3 lead....

Edgy DC May 03 2011 06:01 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Yeah, the four-run third isn't attractive either.

Edgy DC May 03 2011 06:10 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ike unimtimidated by the Wilponian proportions of CitiField.

Ashie62 May 03 2011 06:11 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

IKE

Ashie62 May 03 2011 06:12 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Can they kinda stop talking about 10 years ago? How about a time for for somber and silent reflection.

Edgy DC May 03 2011 06:13 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Did Keith just say he spent five days in Gettysburg after the attack on America or was that Ron?

Fman99 May 03 2011 06:13 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

I like our new hybrid catcher, Jonny Tholino.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2011 06:22 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Thole's a mess back there. Dumb play by Wright too, and Dickey's given away another lead.

Ashie62 May 03 2011 06:22 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Edgy DC wrote: Did Keith just say he spent five days in Gettysburg after the attack on America or was that Ron? Ron..

Ashie62 May 03 2011 06:23 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Thole's a mess back there. Dumb play by Wright too, and Dickey's given away another lead. It's what bad teams do I guess.

soupcan May 03 2011 06:54 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Is that commercial supposed to appeal to a gay demographic...?

DocTee May 03 2011 06:56 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Motherfather. In other news, the Bay Area SportsTicker reports that the Giants have had "internal discussions" about trading for Jose Reyes. They and 29 other teams, I suppose.

Ceetar May 03 2011 06:58 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

soupcan wrote: Is that commercial supposed to appeal to a gay demographic...? no no, he was bench pressing two hot police chicks at the end didn't you see?!

soupcan May 03 2011 07:03 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ceetar wrote: soupcan wrote: Is that commercial supposed to appeal to a gay demographic...? no no, he was bench pressing two hot police chicks at the end didn't you see?! I assumed the police chicks were responding to the 'two muscle-bound gay men wrestling on the couch' complaint.

Ashie62 May 03 2011 07:04 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Since they are taling about softball..Paul Blair batted against two college softball pitchers on the old "Wide World of Sports" and hit nothing, litarally nothing.

soupcan May 03 2011 07:10 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Tied at 6 on un-clutch future Giant Jose Reyes' bloop single that plates Pridie. Or Pirdie, or whatever his name is.

Ceetar May 03 2011 07:14 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

soupcan wrote: Tied at 6 on un-clutch future Giant Jose Reyes' bloop single that plates Pridie. Or Pirdie, or whatever his name is. I'm okay with Reyes' being a Giant in the way Mays was a Met. maybe.

Ashie62 May 03 2011 07:20 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Knobler on CBS ran a two paragraph blurb on SF and Reyes with the main point being that Brian Sabean doesn't trade prospects for loaners. His blog was so lame it has been replaced by Choo's DUI already. Having said that REYES HAVE A FUCkING GOOD TIME IN SAN FRANCISCO nntiawwt

soupcan May 03 2011 07:23 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 03 2011 07:35 PM

Video of the Marine that sang during this game. Not really but it just as easily could have been.

Edgy DC May 03 2011 07:30 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Affeldt showing Pelfrey's ability to put somebody away.

soupcan May 03 2011 07:40 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Wow, Thole actually has hands made out of stone!

Ashie62 May 03 2011 07:47 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Thole is honing in on 10 pb's

soupcan May 03 2011 07:48 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

If you had to take a drink every time Thole missed a ball, you wouldn't be able to drive home from the game.

Fman99 May 03 2011 07:51 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ugh, the bunting.

Edgy DC May 03 2011 07:54 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Are there no starting pitchers faster than Thole?

Edgy DC May 03 2011 08:02 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Boo to the bunt, baby.

Ceetar May 03 2011 08:04 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Edgy DC wrote: Are there no starting pitchers faster than Thole? Cap and Young don't strike me as fast. Pelfrey? maybe.. Niese perhaps would be faster, but enough faster? Beato maybe who's unavailable to pitch.

Ceetar May 03 2011 08:06 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ack, I'm Jeff Francoeur, when'd that happen!?

Fman99 May 03 2011 08:07 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Wow. More atrocious defense from Thole tonight. He's looked as bad with the glove as he's good with the bat tonight.

Ashie62 May 03 2011 08:08 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Watching Thole, somewhere Mike Piazza is smiling.

metirish May 03 2011 08:09 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

everybody is safe on a great bunt , Wright not in aggressively at third says Keith.

Ashie62 May 03 2011 08:09 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Again, I like Ike!

Ashie62 May 03 2011 08:11 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

O.T. Francisco Liriano has a no-no with one inning to go.

Fman99 May 03 2011 08:13 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Whew.

soupcan May 03 2011 08:14 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Amaz-za-zing!

Edgy DC May 03 2011 08:14 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Wow, what an inning. Giants threaten the hell out of the Mets with two hits that didn't go 50 feet between them.

Ashie62 May 03 2011 08:16 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 03 2011 08:17 PM

Make yourself useful Wright.

attgig May 03 2011 08:16 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Liriano 1 out away from a no hitter.

Ashie62 May 03 2011 08:17 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

PERFECT

attgig May 03 2011 08:19 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Liriano did it.

Ashie62 May 03 2011 08:19 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Enough with the bunt.

Edgy DC May 03 2011 08:20 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Somebody wire some money to Terry. NO BUNTING!

attgig May 03 2011 08:21 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

huge break...

attgig May 03 2011 08:22 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

wow that sucked...

Fman99 May 03 2011 08:23 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ugh.

attgig May 03 2011 08:23 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Thole's just having an awful game....

metirish May 03 2011 08:23 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Edgy DC wrote: Somebody wire some money to Terry. NO BUNTING! Ike has never bunted , it would be alike asking me to bunt..... Terry the twat on to extras

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2011 08:24 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

fucking Thole is absolutely killing this team tonight

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 03 2011 08:27 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

I don't remember the last time I saw such masochistic-yet-lucky pitching strategy from both teams. Holy hell.

Fman99 May 03 2011 08:27 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Jesus H Tapdancing Fucking Christ.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2011 08:28 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

son of a bitch. This sucks

Edgy DC May 03 2011 08:28 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Can't fathom why Buchholz is in. Bullpen usage is boggling.

Fman99 May 03 2011 08:29 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

I blame these ugly fucking hats.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 03 2011 08:31 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Radio listeners... Anyone else notice that a disproportionate amount of weird, bad things seem to happen during Hagin innings?

Ceetar May 03 2011 08:31 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Edgy DC wrote: Can't fathom why Buchholz is in. Bullpen usage is boggling. I had K-Rod pegged for two.

soupcan May 03 2011 08:32 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

You mean the commemorative 'We-Killed-bin-Laden' hats? Yeah, not a big fan here either.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 03 2011 08:35 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

All the fucking waft of missed opportunity hanging over this makes this team a really torturous kind of mediocrity to follow, don't it?

soupcan May 03 2011 08:36 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Brian Wilson looks like a cartoon character. Seriously, what a stupid look. He should be walking around DisneyWorld taking pictures with tourists.

Edgy DC May 03 2011 08:36 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Can't fathom why Buchholz is in. Bullpen usage is boggling. I had K-Rod pegged for two. I had K-rod pegged for two and I actually might have had Izzy pegged for more than six pitches with a double switch maybe.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2011 08:37 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

yeah the hats look stupider than the Mets themselves tonight.

metirish May 03 2011 08:38 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

soupcan wrote: Brian Wilson looks like a cartoon character. Seriously, what a stupid look. He should be walking around DisneyWorld taking pictures with tourists. that's his homage to Bin Laden

Edgy DC May 03 2011 08:39 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

soupcan wrote: Brian Wilson looks like a cartoon character. Seriously, what a stupid look. He should be walking around DisneyWorld taking pictures with tourists. Arrr. Meanwhile, Pridie half-swings and takes a punch-out after a fine rendering of an at-bat.

Edgy DC May 03 2011 08:41 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Button your shirt, Popeye!

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2011 08:43 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

praying for muffy

themetfairy May 03 2011 08:45 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: praying for muffy Where's your god now?

soupcan May 03 2011 08:45 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

BOOOOOO! Burn the hats and Thole after this one.

attgig May 03 2011 08:46 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

why wasn't reyes running? I know it's moot, but... still. he should've been running.

bmfc1 May 03 2011 08:48 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Fuck Thole for not doing the one that is explicit in the job of catcher, catching Fuck Thole for choking when a fly ball would have won the game Fuck Ike for even attempting a bunt Fuck Terry if he told Ike to bunt Fuck Terry for pinch hitting for Duda in the 5th inning which meant fewer available players for the later innings Fuck Terry for not having Reyes try to steal in the 10th Fuck Dickey for sucking so much this year no matter how interesting he is and how big his vocabulary is Fuck Sandy for constructing such an awful bench Fuck Murphy for watching two fat strikes in his last at bat. And fuck me for wasting 3 and half hours on this team.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 03 2011 08:48 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Seriously, leave it with the why-wasn't-he-running. Reyes got on base 6 times tonight. He did HIS job.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2011 08:49 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

fuck this team. Fuck RA Dickey. Maybe he should re-name his bats Milli and Vanilli because they also were frauds with one good year. And f Josh Thole. And FU HU. F this whole team.

bmfc1 May 03 2011 08:53 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Fuck RA Dickey. Maybe he should re-name his bats Milli and Vanilli because they also were frauds with one good year. Excellent.

Edgy DC May 03 2011 08:57 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

bmfc1 wrote: Fuck Terry if he told Ike to bunt Anything at all is possible, except the notion that Ike was bunting on his own there. Seriiously, what are we going to do about Thole? I'd start by keeping him the heck away from Dickey. He needs to save his focus for the rest of his burden. This team also needs a longer bench. Bambi's Bandits they ain't.

Edgy DC May 03 2011 09:07 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ceetar May 03 2011 09:12 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Edgy DC wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Fuck Terry if he told Ike to bunt Anything at all is possible, except the notion that Ike was bunting on his own there. Seriiously? What are we going to do about Thole? I'd start by keeping him the heck away from Dickey. He needs to save his focus for the rest of his burden. This team also needs a longer bench. Bambi's Bandits they ain't. Well Bay and Pagan will both be back by this weekend, which should straighten out the bench, as Sandy can make the decision based on the actual bench and not who can play where in the OF. I'm worried about Thole now. I don't know what's up there. He's missing things that I would probably catch. I wonder if he toned done the catching workouts a bit (or that's just the nature of the bigs versus AAA?) now that he's "made it"? Same with Ike. While buntings horrible in that spot, especially with who was up behind him, does he practice it? If he takes bunting practice as much as everyone else and works at it for the sake of that one or two times a year where it might be prudent. over-shifts or what not, then fine, drop one down (not there), but otherwise, just freaking swing.

Edgy DC May 03 2011 09:18 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ike's bunt attempt is 100% on Terrycloth.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2011 09:30 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Let's not make too much of the bunt attempt. It was dumb but given a swingaway, Ike hit into a DP only got lucky that the 2B booted it. And enough with the criticism of Reyes not stealing. And on Howie for going after the percentage of Rodriguez's "clean innings" as if 1-2-3 is the only way to go.

MFS62 May 03 2011 09:33 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Radio listeners... Anyone else notice that a disproportionate amount of weird, bad things seem to happen during Hagin innings? Are they really bad things, or is it the convoluted way he describes them? Or both? Later

Gwreck May 03 2011 09:37 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Lots of Giants fans in the ballpark tonight which makes things that much more unpleasant. We really deserved to lose after screwing up the 9th so badly. Additionally, I am really starting to tire of Chin Lung Hu, who apparently cannot hit major league pitching. If Reyes is going to play essentially every game, we don't need a backup shortstop unless he gets hurt, in which case we can make a roster move at that point. Additionally, I bet Turner could cover if necessary. He has provided essentially no value to the team. Thole really embarassed himself with his defense tonight. The three hits were great but any value they provided were negated by the rally-killing GIDPs. I was disappointed with the bullpen management tonight, particularly in not putting Rodriguez back out for a second inning. I also might have left Gee in, rather than yanking him to have Isringhausen pitch to only one batter (the pitcher's spot was due up second the next inning). --- I recognize that the Mets (and Fred, in particular) are very supportive of the military and veterans. I always welcome an organized military appreciation night, and really, if you've got active duty personnel on leave who get to go to the game for the night, I'm always in favor of them throwing out the first pitch. Thanks for your brave service. But the "We-Killed-Bin-Laden" aura of the night, with the awful, awful hats and the intolerable "God Bless America" and putting Chris Young on the diamondvision to talk 30 seconds of nonsense about how this is a "historic day" was downright offensive. I realize that everybody is going to react to the news in a different, personal way and I am happy to allow for that. For example, I broke out the Johnny Walker Blue on Sunday night as a toast to those responsible for conducting that brave mission. But to have the organized celebration at the BASEBALL game was way out of line.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 03 2011 09:44 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

testify, wreckie. I agree with all of it. Thole's misadventures forced the Gee to Izzy situation. Hidden cost.

G-Fafif May 03 2011 10:11 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Maybe he should re-name his bats Milli and Vanilli because they also were frauds with one good year. This fucking awful game was almost worth it for the above. Almost. Lots of Giants fans in the ballpark tonight which makes things that much more unpleasant. Much fucking of them as well. Shrill fucks. the "We-Killed-Bin-Laden" aura of the night, with the awful, awful hats and the intolerable "God Bless America" and putting Chris Young on the diamondvision to talk 30 seconds of nonsense about how this is a "historic day" was downright offensive. Big misread on the Mets' part and it cheapened the intended effect. In addition to the idiotic caps, I noticed Mets/American flag pins and Mets/Statue of Liberty pins broken out in one of the team stores, as if the First Baseball Game in New York After... magic was going to be automatically transferrable, Get Yours Today! Also I received my first-ever full patdown entering Citi Field -- Bullpen Gate, where I don't usually enter. I showed what a threat I was by giggling uncontrollably (it tickled). A few feet from where they were groping me for my own good there was a veritable battalion of military personnel. I somehow think that made the place safer, at least at the Bullpen Gate. I have to confess as I took in the spontaneous U-S-A chant from CBP the other night, I was thinking "glad this isn't at Citi Field -- place would be three-quarters empty by now, those still here would be doing the wave or still standing in Shake Shack line." I didn't get the Chris Young thing either.

Nymr83 May 03 2011 10:26 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

I was there tonight as well. Citi just doesnt possess Shea's atmosphere. Hu looked like he didn't belong in the same league as Brian Wilson.

Ceetar May 04 2011 05:20 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Nymr83 wrote: I was there tonight as well. Citi just doesnt possess Shea's atmosphere. Hu looked like he didn't belong in the same league as Brian Wilson. The fans are different. That is, the mindset of the fans are different. Not because of the park but because of the state of the team.

Gwreck May 04 2011 06:33 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

There's no question that Citi Field doesn't have the same atmosphere as even a half-empty Shea. This was immediately apparent even in the early part of 2009, when the park was full every night and there was no reason for despair.

Ceetar May 04 2011 06:45 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Gwreck wrote: There's no question that Citi Field doesn't have the same atmosphere as even a half-empty Shea. This was immediately apparent even in the early part of 2009, when the park was full every night and there was no reason for despair. I attribute that a lot to not knowing the park and people wandering around and taking it in, and atmosphere never being great in April anyway. And off two collapses, it wasn't a great attitude among fans. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'd like to be in first for a sustained amount of time to bolster enthusiasm, or really be in it when we play the Phillies in July, before I'd be really comfortable judging the crowds at Citi. I think it has potential, especially down low. I could see that RF corner, with the Pepsi Porch and Mo's zone screaming, being very hostile to a visiting right fielder.

Edgy DC May 04 2011 07:13 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Well, I have no great Hu lust, but there's something on Terry here, that he (1) can't find any starts for Hu, (2) keeps a redikalikalikalously short bench, and (3) burns that bench nightly like a serial arsonist, leaving Hu frequently the team's last best hope. They might have gotten more than six pitches from Isringhausen had they double-switched when bringing him in, but that would have taken some awkward maneuvering, as the team was already on their third left-fielder by the seventh inning. I never dreamed I'd be lecturing three straight managers about their jobs. Buchholz should have been about four innings away from entering the game last night.

TransMonk May 04 2011 07:17 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Fman99 wrote: I blame these ugly fucking hats. The manufactured and fake patriotism over the past few days is making me sick.

metirish May 04 2011 07:18 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Gwreck wrote: Lots of Giants fans in the ballpark tonight which makes things that much more unpleasant. We really deserved to lose after screwing up the 9th so badly. Additionally, I am really starting to tire of Chin Lung Hu, who apparently cannot hit major league pitching. If Reyes is going to play essentially every game, we don't need a backup shortstop unless he gets hurt, in which case we can make a roster move at that point. Additionally, I bet Turner could cover if necessary. He has provided essentially no value to the team. Thole really embarassed himself with his defense tonight. The three hits were great but any value they provided were negated by the rally-killing GIDPs. I was disappointed with the bullpen management tonight, particularly in not putting Rodriguez back out for a second inning. I also might have left Gee in, rather than yanking him to have Isringhausen pitch to only one batter (the pitcher's spot was due up second the next inning). --- I recognize that the Mets (and Fred, in particular) are very supportive of the military and veterans. I always welcome an organized military appreciation night, and really, if you've got active duty personnel on leave who get to go to the game for the night, I'm always in favor of them throwing out the first pitch. Thanks for your brave service. But the "We-Killed-Bin-Laden" aura of the night, with the awful, awful hats and the intolerable "God Bless America" and putting Chris Young on the diamondvision to talk 30 seconds of nonsense about how this is a "historic day" was downright offensive. I realize that everybody is going to react to the news in a different, personal way and I am happy to allow for that. For example, I broke out the Johnny Walker Blue on Sunday night as a toast to those responsible for conducting that brave mission. But to have the organized celebration at the BASEBALL game was way out of line. I stand and applaud you and damn it I am going to wear a commemorative hat in your honor....seriously though , the whole thing was a debacle , when Ike squared around to bunt Cohen was beside himself and you could tell needed to restrain his thoughts ......agree on Hu but apparently Collins loves him, every freaking manager seems to have one. On Thole , I thought Darling brought up a good point although I have no idea how true it might be but it makes sense....Thole has gotten very bad habits catching Dickey and when he needs to catch a regular type pitcher those habits are getting exposed ....bad fundies ... Big difference for me between Shea and Citi is that Shea didn't entice you to walk around and savor the ballpark where Citi does , and that's one of the things management wants right?

TransMonk May 04 2011 07:22 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

I missed watching this game live (actually, I turned it on in time to see Thole's DP in the ninth) so couldn't participate in this thread. For as bad as this game turned out, this thread is a pretty awesome read.

Ceetar May 04 2011 07:32 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Edgy DC wrote: I never dreamed I'd be lecturing three straight managers about their jobs. Buchholz should have been about four innings away from entering the game last night. So you were okay with Howe then?

Ceetar May 04 2011 07:34 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

metirish wrote: Big difference for me between Shea and Citi is that Shea didn't entice you to walk around and savor the ballpark where Citi does , and that's one of the things management wants right? That's all new ballparks. Which is why I never understood the complaints about empty seats behind the plate at either NY park. They built indoor bars (which isn't really anything special, btw) behind the plate and you expect some of these rich fat cats to sit in the cold april weather at 10pm at night? The thing is, the game hasn't force anyone to stay in their seat much since Citi opened. But in all stadiums, concessions basically close down in the 8th and 9th, so for those big games and late inning pressure situations, everyone SHOULD be in their seats, or at least standing in viewing areas.

Edgy DC May 04 2011 07:35 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Howe may have been affectless, but his B's* didn't kill me. _______ *Bunting, benchburning, bullpen usage.

Met Hunter May 04 2011 08:18 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

The hats sent out subliminal messages to buy Carvel.

Met Hunter May 04 2011 08:38 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

I went last night. Only like the fifth time in 3 years that I've gone and made a few observations. The crowd seems different, somewhat lifeless. I didn't even hear the obnoxous 'balk' cheer when the opposing pitcher stepped off. People get ridiculously excited with pizza box races and t shirt launches. They'll fucking kill you for that shirt. The Mets had a potential rally going while they repositioned my section for the box race. A free slice was at stake. I'd be a dick and ask for the cash equivalent. Brian Wilson looks like a courier. A courier that's winning. That hairdo is ridiculous. Nice touch having Seaver and Piazza getting the 'Let's Go Mets' chant going on the scoreboard. But Mikey better redo that shot and fix his hair. It aint helping his 'I'm not gay" stance. The usher is still checking tickets in the tenth inning. WTF? Get lost. I miss buying trays of beer. Just not financially practical anymore. Any swinging dick that had an old military uniform seemed to dust if off and break it out last night to receive thanks for them personally killed Bin Laden. I saw one guy that looked like Vanderbilt from 'F Troop'. The whole fucking world is a front runner.

soupcan May 04 2011 08:49 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Any swinging dick that had an old military uniform seemed to dust if off and break it out last night to receive thanks for them personally killed Bin Laden. I saw one guy that looked like Vanderbilt from 'F Troop'. The whole fucking world is a front runner. Funny. As to the Piazza gay rumors - didn't this... and this... Mike Piazza & Wife Welcome a Baby Girl Oakland A's catcher Mike Piazza and his wife, Alicia, welcomed their first child together on Saturday. Nicoletta Veronica Piazza was born in a NYC hospital at 4:07am. She weighed 5 lbs., 8 oz. and measured 19 inches long. ...effectively end those?

soupcan May 04 2011 09:10 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

And here's what I'm sure will be an unpopular opinion but I'm going to say it anyway (because 'controversy' is my middle name): Where does Jason Bay get off going on 4 days of Paternity Leave? Fucker's only been with the team for 10 days. He missed a million games last year and sucked in the one's he didn't. I would think he'd want to prove his worth / make up for lost time / earn his salary. It's not like it's his first kid and the wife needs him there to help out with the other two. This is his third kid, you want to be there for the birth - fine, but speaking from experience it's a lot less wonderment and a lot more disgusting smells. Whatever, to each his own. And whichever side you're on, it doesn't take an entire three game series (plus - ahem - an off day on Monday) to pop out a kid.

Benjamin Grimm May 04 2011 09:11 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

I thought he was only going to miss two games?

Ceetar May 04 2011 09:13 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I thought he was only going to miss two games? I think they said 2-3, but I guess it depends. it's an early game Tomorrow. so even 48 hours misses three games, and where does Bay live? Canada? Seattle? It is what it is, but I'm not going to begrudge him that. MLB instituted paternity leave for this very purpose.

soupcan May 04 2011 09:17 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I thought he was only going to miss two games? I don't care - same difference. I realize that he's 'entitled' to it, but it doesn't sit well with me. ....and how about a little planned parenting for MLB players? You friggin' know you're going to be working daily for a period of April to September (possibly October), why not put that in the mix when you think about making reproductive whoopee?

Gwreck May 04 2011 09:19 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Edgy DC wrote: Well, I have no great Hu lust, but there's something on Terry here, that he (1) can't find any starts for Hu, (2) keeps a redikalikalikalously short bench, and (3) burns that bench nightly like a serial arsonist, leaving Hu frequently the team's last best hope. #2 is on Alderson. As for #1, there's no reason to find any starts for Hu because he's not any good. Is he supposed to sit Reyes or Murphy? I suppose Hu could have gotten a start or two that went to Emaus or Turner instead but it's been pretty well established that Hu can't hit, at all.

Gwreck May 04 2011 09:20 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ceetar wrote: where does Bay live? Larchmont.

soupcan May 04 2011 09:21 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

LARCHMONT?! 30 minutes from CitiField! My head is going to explode.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 04 2011 09:23 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Yeah, the best argument against Hu's release is that it's only been 13 at-bats and no starts, surprised things being how they are that haven't thrown him a start at 2B vs. a lefty by now. He did have a great turn AB in that big win last week.

Benjamin Grimm May 04 2011 09:24 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

I have no problem with a player missing a couple of games for the birth of his child. EDIT: That is, assuming he has to leave town. If the birth is in the New York suburbs, and the Mets are at home, he can take a few hours away to play in the game. I'd allow him to report later than the other players, but he really could play in the game.

metirish May 04 2011 09:39 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

soupcan wrote: LARCHMONT?! 30 minutes from CitiField! My head is going to explode. this was basically my reaction to the paternity leave......back Thursday apparently.... hey, my co-worker took paternity leave January first and isn't back until June 1st....

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2011 09:47 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Third child for the Bays. I think the more alarming thing is when conception must have occurred. YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO AVOID STRENUOUS ACTIVITY. Hell, I was able to get a week for YoungerPooper, but I had a surplus of vacation days from the previous year; plus, as far as our office's hitting goes, I'm pretty superfluous, really.

soupcan May 04 2011 09:50 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

metirish wrote: hey, my co-worker took paternity leave January first and isn't back until June 1st.... Is your co-worker a multi-millionaire? Does your co-worker only work six-months per year? Did your co-worker miss 30% of work last year, performing far below expectations in the other 70% (if so, lucky guy to still have his job)? Did your co-worker just recently return to work and then take his 4 month leave? I hate it when I care more about the Mets than the Mets do.

Ceetar May 04 2011 09:53 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

soupcan wrote: I hate it when I care more about the Mets than the Mets do. I don't believe the Mets can/could possibly deny Bay his leave. It's an MLB thing.

soupcan May 04 2011 09:55 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ceetar wrote: soupcan wrote: I hate it when I care more about the Mets than the Mets do. I don't believe the Mets can/could possibly deny Bay his leave. It's an MLB thing. Yes, Ceetar I get that. I'm sure Bay's not being held prisoner in his home however.

metirish May 04 2011 09:58 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

I'm with Soupcan on this , all the way baby.....maybe Bay knocks in some of those men left on base last night.

metirish May 04 2011 09:58 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

soupcan wrote: metirish wrote: hey, my co-worker took paternity leave January first and isn't back until June 1st.... Is your co-worker a multi-millionaire? Does your co-worker only work six-months per year? Did your co-worker miss 30% of work last year, performing far below expectations in the other 70% (if so, lucky guy to still have his job)? Did your co-worker just recently return to work and then take his 4 month leave? I hate it when I care more about the Mets than the Mets do. no to all of the above.....

Ceetar May 04 2011 10:00 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

soupcan wrote: soupcan wrote: I hate it when I care more about the Mets than the Mets do. I don't believe the Mets can/could possibly deny Bay his leave. It's an MLB thing. Yes, Ceetar I get that. I'm sure Bay's not being held prisoner in his home however. He's not sitting at home twiddling his thumbs either. Even if he were to 'pop over for the game' and ignore BP and all that, he'd still have to leave by like 5 and not get home until well after 11, if not longer.

soupcan May 04 2011 10:07 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

metirish wrote: I'm with Soupcan on this , all the way baby.....maybe Bay knocks in some of those men left on base last night. And THAT my friends is my point. Ceetar wrote: He's not sitting at home twiddling his thumbs either. Even if he were to 'pop over for the game' and ignore BP and all that, he'd still have to leave by like 5 and not get home until well after 11, if not longer. Dude, it's a homestand, the guy lives a half hour from the workplace. He can spend the day with the fam and get his thin-skulled Canadian ass over to Queens for the game.

Ashie62 May 04 2011 10:08 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Bay can play..now.. Lotta money down the toilet on this guy between last year and this.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2011 10:31 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Seriously, leave it with the why-wasn't-he-running. Reyes got on base 6 times tonight. He did HIS job. Lost in the blown-chances shuffle and flag-waving kerfuffle... Reyes' six-times-on-base bit last night was only the tenth time it's ever been accomplished in franchise history. The last time? Just about three years ago, courtesy of one... Jose Reyes.

Frayed Knot May 04 2011 10:47 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

The problem with his six times on base is that he scored just once - courtesy of Beltran's 1st inning HR. Only once in the next five times on did he even get as far as 2nd - courtesy of his own SB that time. He did drive in a run once too.

batmagadanleadoff May 04 2011 10:48 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ceetar wrote: Ceetar wrote: I hate it when I care more about the Mets than the Mets do. I don't believe the Mets can/could possibly deny Bay his leave. It's an MLB thing. Yes, Ceetar I get that. I'm sure Bay's not being held prisoner in his home however. He's not sitting at home twiddling his thumbs either. Even if he were to 'pop over for the game' and ignore BP and all that, he'd still have to leave by like 5 and not get home until well after 11, if not longer. Because the Mets wouldn't want to impose on the guy they paid 66 million dollars to play baseball. Maybe they could compromise and allow leave Bay to leave the game early -- say 9pm-ish. He could watch Letterman live.

soupcan May 04 2011 10:49 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Clearly, what Jose Reyes did at the plate last night was a rarity in Mets history. Any time a single player reaches base six times, it's highly likely that his team won the game, but it didn't turn out that way last night. Two final notes: Reyes is the only shortstop in team history to have done this, and he's also the only player to do so and steal a base during the game, which he did once in each game. And after perusing that list, the only player to have done it more than once. But so what, right? Trade him because he's not worth what he's going to get in his next contract. Doesn't provide any excitement, fans don't come to watch him, he's not a good guy, always gets in trouble off the field, etc., etc. I'm in a mood today boy.

soupcan May 04 2011 10:50 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Because the Mets wouldn't want to impose on the guy they paid 66 million dollars to play baseball. Maybe they could compromise and allow leave Bay to leave the game early -- say 9pm-ish. He could watch Letterman live. I'm starting to think that perhaps my position on Bay may in fact not be unpopular.

HahnSolo May 04 2011 10:57 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

I understand the Mets cannot tell jason Bay he can't go on paternity leave, which is his right. But I would like to think that Jason Bay, after sucking for a half-year, missing a half-year, then missing the first three weeks of this season, might want to just say, OK, I'll be there for the birth, maybe miss one game, then come right back. [At the very least we know Bay would not have been pinch-hit for in the 5th inning last night]

G-Fafif May 04 2011 11:07 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Shrill fuck Giant fans definitely made more noise late than the Mets fans. Deathly silent when the Mets were at bat and the scoreboard wasn't prompting. One SF was overheard to say, "Why aren't the Mets fans cheering? This is when their team needs the support." I don't have a good answer to that.

batmagadanleadoff May 04 2011 11:09 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

soupcan wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Because the Mets wouldn't want to impose on the guy they paid 66 million dollars to play baseball. Maybe they could compromise and allow leave Bay to leave the game early -- say 9pm-ish. He could watch Letterman live. I'm starting to think that perhaps my position on Bay may in fact not be unpopular. Maybe we spoke too soon. What if there were unusual circumstances surrounding his newborn's birth?

soupcan May 04 2011 11:09 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 04 2011 11:17 AM

G-Fafif wrote: One SF was overheard to say, "Why aren't the Mets fans cheering? This is when their team needs the support." I don't have a good answer to that. Because we're sick of caring more about the game than the players or owners do?

soupcan May 04 2011 11:14 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Maybe we spoke too soon. What if there were unusual circumstances surrounding his newborn's birth? If that's the case all bets are off and I am totally on board with his missing as many games as necessary. ....but I haven't heard anything along those lines at all.

Edgy DC May 04 2011 11:19 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

I hear the kid alrady has more extra-base hits than Jason.

batmagadanleadoff May 04 2011 11:20 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

soupcan wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Maybe we spoke too soon. What if there were unusual circumstances surrounding his newborn's birth? If that's the case all bets are off and I am totally on board with his missing as many games as necessary. ....but I haven't heard anything along those lines at all. Me neither. I'm just sayin'.....

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2011 11:23 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Maybe we spoke too soon. What if there were unusual circumstances surrounding his newborn's birth? If he or she was born impolite, Bay may just have to take the rest of the year off. /Oh, Canada

Ashie62 May 04 2011 11:55 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

G-Fafif wrote: Shrill fuck Giant fans definitely made more noise late than the Mets fans. Deathly silent when the Mets were at bat and the scoreboard wasn't prompting. One SF was overheard to say, "Why aren't the Mets fans cheering? This is when their team needs the support." I don't have a good answer to that. Cause it ain't Shea? I haven't heard a good "Lets Go Mets" chant since Citifield opened.

Ceetar May 04 2011 11:57 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Because Mets fans would rather discuss who to trade their best players to then root for them to succeed.

Benjamin Grimm May 04 2011 11:58 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Ashie62 wrote: Cause it ain't Shea? I haven't heard a good "Lets Go Mets" chant since Citifield opened. I'd like them to test Ashie's theory. Knock down Citi Field and rebuild Shea.

G-Fafif May 04 2011 12:53 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

It was reasonably raucous (or at least noisy) early with Beltran's homer and Ike's homer and Jose being Jose, but it just kind of deflated. Thole's 1-2-3 grounder certainly didn't help. Success equaling enthusiasm, perhaps.

HahnSolo May 04 2011 01:54 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Cause it ain't Shea? I haven't heard a good "Lets Go Mets" chant since Citifield opened. I'd like them to test Ashie's theory. Knock down Citi Field and rebuild Shea. Count me among those who hate the ridiculous "hooo" that the latest generation of Mets fans have added to the "Let's Go Mets" chant.

bmfc1 May 04 2011 02:06 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

HahnSolo wrote: Count me among those who hate the ridiculous "hooo" that the latest generation of Mets fans have added to the "Let's Go Mets" chant. That's different than the ridiculous Hu that's on the Mets bench.

G-Fafif May 04 2011 02:08 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

bmfc1 wrote: HahnSolo wrote: Count me among those who hate the ridiculous "hooo" that the latest generation of Mets fans have added to the "Let's Go Mets" chant. That's different than the ridiculous Hu that's on the Mets bench. What's Mandarin for ZING?

Ceetar May 04 2011 02:12 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

G-Fafif wrote: bmfc1 wrote: HahnSolo wrote: Count me among those who hate the ridiculous "hooo" that the latest generation of Mets fans have added to the "Let's Go Mets" chant. That's different than the ridiculous Hu that's on the Mets bench. What's Mandarin for ZING? ? or Chéng phoentically according to google.

G-Fafif May 04 2011 02:18 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

The Bay-bee is born, sez Rubin: Garrett David Bay (6 pounds, 3 ounces) was born last night to Jason and Kristen Bay. Enough Duda. Bring back Dada.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 04 2011 02:22 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

So when I scream, "G D BAY" three or four times a game this weekend, it could be taken as sort of a tribute?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 04 2011 02:34 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Garrett David. Destined to be a Mets third baseman.

batmagadanleadoff May 05 2011 01:19 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

And here's what I'm sure will be an unpopular opinion but I'm going to say it anyway (because 'controversy' is my middle name): Where does Jason Bay get off going on 4 days of Paternity Leave? Fucker's only been with the team for 10 days. He missed a million games last year and sucked in the one's he didn't. I would think he'd want to prove his worth / make up for lost time / earn his salary. It's not like it's his first kid and the wife needs him there to help out with the other two. This is his third kid, you want to be there for the birth - fine, but speaking from experience it's a lot less wonderment and a lot more disgusting smells. Whatever, to each his own. And whichever side you're on, it doesn't take an entire three game series (plus - ahem - an off day on Monday) to pop out a kid. Consider this: What would you think of Bay's paternity leave if it occurred during the last two weeks of the season and the Mets were in contention?

G-Fafif May 05 2011 01:35 PM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Consider this: What would you think of Bay's paternity leave if it occurred during the last two weeks of the season and the Mets were in contention? Precedent! From just that scenario, mid-September 2008. ST. PETERSBURG -- While the Red Sox are in a heated race with the Tampa Bay Rays for first place in the American League East, Boston outfielder Jason Bay won an entirely different kind of race on Tuesday. He rushed out of Florida swiftly enough to make it back to Boston in time for the birth of his second child. Bay's wife, Kristen, delivered Evelyn Jane at roughly 6:45 ET on Tuesday night. Bay arrived roughly 45 minutes before the birth. Bay will likely rejoin the Red Sox on Friday in Toronto, where they open a three-game series against the Blue Jays. It doesn't seem to make sense for Bay to fly all the way back to St. Petersburg for the finale in this three-game series against the Rays, which will take place on Wednesday night. Red Sox manager Terry Francona had talked at length with Bay over the past few days, and there was some hope that Kristen could perhaps be induced on Thursday, when the Red Sox have an off-day before their weekend series in Toronto. But it was not to be. "She just wouldn't cooperate," quipped Francona before Tuesday's game. "That baby is coming pretty soon." Without Bay, the Red Sox went with an alignment of Jacoby Ellsbury in left, Coco Crisp in center and Mark Kotsay in right. Kotsay hit sixth, which is where Bay has been making the bulk of his starts of late.

G-Fafif May 06 2011 05:26 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

You can tell from this what Skip thinks of paternity leave for ballplayers. Terry Collins recalls a time when players didn't take leaves of absence for the birth of their children. "Nobody left," the Mets manager said. "Nobody went to weddings -- if their uncle was getting married, nobody went. You played, because the season was six months long or five months long and you stayed. But the game has changed." Man, you can hear him spitting tobacco all over somebody's bassinet while he's answering. "I'm sure the wives are happier," Collins said. Translation: My fucking left fielder wasn't here when we had to face Lincecum because his wife was having a what? What kind of fucking world do we live in? BTW, the kid was born in Greenwich. Too bad Tom Seaver doesn't live up there anymore. He might have bumped into Bay and set him straight. "Tom, my wife just gave birth! Our third child!" "Why aren't you at the ballpark?" "Didn't you hear me? A baby boy!" "You have Lincecum tonight. What the fuck are you doing here? Capuano's gonna need every run he can get." At which point Tom would have spit tobacco all over somebody's bassinet.

Edgy DC May 06 2011 06:02 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Wait a minute? Greenwich? That's a commute! I thought he was in Colorado Springs or someplace ballplayers' families live.

soupcan May 06 2011 06:35 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

The whole thing is bullshit. Again, there are the same five to six months every year that a professional baseball player knows that he's committed to being with his team almost every day. It's really not that hard to look at a calendar and do some basic math when planning your family if that's your occupation. Also - FOUR days for paternity leave? Really? These guys make a minimum of what -$450,0000.00? They can all afford a baby nurse or nanny to help out mom for the duration. Daddy is not needed at home. If the guy wants to be there for the actual birth then, you know, whatever. But after you've had your first child and you see exactly what the entails, I'm not sure you A) really need to see it again or B) really want to. Again though, to each his own and I won't begrudge that (but still -as a ballplayer there are 3-4-5 months where you've got nothing but time, you know?). Bay in particular - making a bazillion dollars, lousy year last year, missed 40% of his team's games, team is struggling without him this year and he is only just back, lives 30 minutes from the stadium. That's 30 minutes. That means he could be home pretty fucking fast should the wife go into labor or need him for anything else. Yes, MLB says he is entitled to it and it's his right to take it but really Jason, do you really think you needed to? The two games he missed against SF were very winnable. A single at-bat from Bay could have turned either or both games. Bad decisions Jason, sorry.

G-Fafif May 06 2011 06:42 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Jason says Stay Classy, CBA! “I think it’s classy to afford the team the luxury,” Bay said, “and make it so the player doesn’t have to worry about leaving someone shorthanded.”

soupcan May 06 2011 07:04 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Right, because Lucas Duda is the exact same player as Jason Bay. Gimme a break.

Edgy DC May 06 2011 07:08 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

You know, the new park is supposed to have everything. How about a birthing center under the bleachers? With a few customizations, I'm sure K-Rod's cell can serve double duty.

MFS62 May 06 2011 07:08 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

If he didn't have to breast feed the baby, he didn't need to take all that time. Its like vacation days at work. If you have then , you might as well use them. Later

G-Fafif May 06 2011 07:10 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

At the very least he could have stood in his plush back yard and telecommuted.

Ceetar May 06 2011 07:24 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

G-Fafif wrote: At the very least he could have stood in his plush back yard and telecommuted. Or knocked up one of the Giants wives at the same time to make it fair..

G-Fafif May 06 2011 07:28 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Knocking out one of the Giants pitchers would have sufficed.

batmagadanleadoff May 06 2011 09:05 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

Consider this: What would you think of Bay's paternity leave if it occurred during the last two weeks of the season and the Mets were in contention? Precedent! From just that scenario, mid-September 2008. ST. PETERSBURG -- While the Red Sox are in a heated race with the Tampa Bay Rays for first place in the American League East, Boston outfielder Jason Bay won an entirely different kind of race on Tuesday. He rushed out of Florida swiftly enough to make it back to Boston in time for the birth of his second child. Bay's wife, Kristen, delivered Evelyn Jane at roughly 6:45 ET on Tuesday night. Bay arrived roughly 45 minutes before the birth. Bay will likely rejoin the Red Sox on Friday in Toronto, where they open a three-game series against the Blue Jays. It doesn't seem to make sense for Bay to fly all the way back to St. Petersburg for the finale in this three-game series against the Rays, which will take place on Wednesday night. Red Sox manager Terry Francona had talked at length with Bay over the past few days, and there was some hope that Kristen could perhaps be induced on Thursday, when the Red Sox have an off-day before their weekend series in Toronto. But it was not to be. "She just wouldn't cooperate," quipped Francona before Tuesday's game. "That baby is coming pretty soon." Without Bay, the Red Sox went with an alignment of Jacoby Ellsbury in left, Coco Crisp in center and Mark Kotsay in right. Kotsay hit sixth, which is where Bay has been making the bulk of his starts of late. I was gonna spring that after any comments responding to my "Consider this" post. You went straight for the punch line.

batmagadanleadoff May 06 2011 09:10 AM Re: Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

yeah the hats look stupider than the Mets themselves tonight. Great snark from Uni Watch: So that’s the cap that the Mets wore last night. And you’ve gotta hand it to them: This is definitely the thing to wear if you want to look like you just got off the plane from Kansas and went cap-shopping in Times Square. Sigh.