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Batting second and playing second base

Benjamin Grimm May 05 2011 12:10 PM

Somebody earlier today speculated about which Mets managers were most prone to starting the second baseman in the second slot of the lineup. The answer is... Roy McMillan at 100 per cent! Here are the full results: [table:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx][/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]2/2B[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Total[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Pct.[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]McMillan[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]53[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]53[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]1.000[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Frazier[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]170[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]207[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.821[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Berra[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]491[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]600[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.818[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Parker[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]7[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]11[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.636[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Johnson[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]599[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]1032[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.580[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Cubbage[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]4[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]7[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.571[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Manuel[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]207[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]417[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.496[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Collins[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]13[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]30[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.433[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Randolph[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]228[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]565[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.403[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Valentine[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]376[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]1027[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.366[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Stengel[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]186[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]582[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.320[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Bamberger[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]60[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]208[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.288[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Howe[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]93[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]323[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.288[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Hodges[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]188[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]657[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.286[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Green[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]128[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]512[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.250[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Torborg[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]48[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]200[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.240[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Westrum[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]91[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]380[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.239[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Harrelson[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]51[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]274[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.186[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Torre[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]111[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]709[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.157[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][tr:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]Howard[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]8[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]116[/td:2os8ldkx][td:2os8ldkx]0.069[/td:2os8ldkx][/tr:2os8ldkx][/table:2os8ldkx] BAMBERGER Giles 2 Backman 22 Bailor 36 BERRA Barnes 2 Garrett 2 Puig 2 Martinez 12 Boswell 71 Millan 402 COLLINS Turner 2 Murphy 11 Miller 4 FRAZIER Foster 1 Heidemann 1 Garrett 8 Randle 8 Phillips 10 Millan 142 GREEN Vizcaino 82 Alfonzo 27 Saunders 15 Vina 2 Bogar 1 Rivera 1 HARRELSON Herr 33 Miller 9 Jefferies 8 Gardner 1 HODGES Boswell 115 Linz 30 Garrett 15 Foli 12 Pfeil 9 Martinez 3 Weis 3 Collins 1 HOWARD Brooks 6 Bailor 2 HOWE Garcia 25 Alomar 18 Keppinger 18 McEwing 10 Bell 7 Gutierrez 6 Reyes 4 Matsui 3 Sanchez 1 Scutaro 1 JOHNSON Backman 328 Teufel 148 Chapman 64 Jefferies 29 Miller 22 Gardenhire 4 Bowa 2 Almon 1 Knight 1 MANUEL Castillo 150 Cora 31 Reyes 14 Hernandez 8 Easley 2 Tatis 1 Turner 1 MCMILLAN Millan 53 PARKER Boswell 4 Heise 3 RANDOLPH Castillo 91 Cairo 49 Matsui 47 Gotay 14 Valentin 11 Easley 8 Woodward 6 Hernandez 2 STENGEL Hunt 129 Kanehl 34 Neal 12 Hiller 3 Mantilla 3 Burright 1 Chacon 1 Drake 1 Klaus 1 Samuel 1 TORBORG Randolph 38 Pecota 4 Walker 2 Donnels 1 Kent 1 McKnight 1 Noboa 1 TORRE Millan 39 Valentine 26 Backman 14 Flynn 11 Chapman 10 Foster 4 Almon 2 Bailor 2 Youngblood 2 Treviņo 1 VALENTINE Alfonzo 269 Alomar 45 Relaford 25 Baerga 15 Lopez 9 Hardtke 8 Alexander 2 McEwing 2 Wigginton 1 WESTRUM Hunt 52 Hiller 19 Heise 7 Bressoud 4 Johnson 3 Linz 3 Collins 2 Buchek 1

RealityChuck May 05 2011 01:17 PM Re: Batting second and playing second base

When you manage Felix Millan -- the Aristotelean Ideal of a #2 hitter* -- of course you bat him second. *He struck out 83 times as a Met -- in 2600 plate appearances.

metsmarathon May 05 2011 02:47 PM Re: Batting second and playing second base

i'm interested in how often a player's position matches his spot in the batting order. pitchers batting leadoff, catchers second, etc etc.

sharpie May 05 2011 03:03 PM Re: Batting second and playing second base

I would guess that first basemen batting third and third basemen batting fifth would swamp the field.

Edgy DC May 05 2011 03:06 PM Re: Batting second and playing second base

Probably one and two, followed by leftfielders batting seventh.

Frayed Knot May 05 2011 05:29 PM Re: Batting second and playing second base

metsmarathon wrote: i'm interested in how often a player's position matches his spot in the batting order. pitchers batting leadoff, catchers second, etc etc. ... and then check to see if it matches their uniform number!! Wright batting 5th playing 3rd would work and I'm sure it's happened. Probably not too many others though.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 05 2011 06:53 PM Re: Batting second and playing second base

Frayed Knot wrote: i'm interested in how often a player's position matches his spot in the batting order. pitchers batting leadoff, catchers second, etc etc. ... and then check to see if it matches their uniform number!! Wright batting 5th playing 3rd would work and I'm sure it's happened. Probably not too many others though. I did a strict uni-number to lineup-slot analysis once. Here were the leaders following th e2007 season: 1. Mookie Wilson 681 games 2. Phil Linz 34 games 3. Richie Hebner 11 games 4. Rusty Staub 250 games 5. David Wright 245 games 6. Mike Marshall 37 games 7. Hubie Brooks 115 games 8. Chris Cannizzaro 58 games Wright's added plenty to his total since then, Nick Evans may have gained on Marshall, and Justin Turner could definitely overtake Linz this year.

Edgy DC May 05 2011 06:59 PM Re: Batting second and playing second base

Probably nobody is going to bat 42nd as much as Ron Hodges did, though.